749S needs a new lover....

**Madness** · 3rd January 2009, 21:30

Originally Posted by jrandom

The hydraulic fluid runs through a flexible steel tube rather than through rubber hoses.

Actually the fluid flows through a PTFE tube that is in turn running inside the braided stainless. The braid is there to prevent expansion of the inner lining. PTFE is also excellent in dealing with high temperatures.

Sexy bike Flame, as always.

**cowboyz** · 3rd January 2009, 22:03

Will I go to hell if I keep buying chicks bikes?
Have you got a pillion seat for it?

**flame** · 3rd January 2009, 22:21

Originally Posted by cowboyz

Will I go to hell if I keep buying chicks bikes?
Have you got a pillion seat for it?

Not if ya buy them off the same chick everytime

Sorry this model (monoposta) doesnt have a pillion seat, you can buy the biposta (pillion seat) tail sections but you would also need to buy the biposta sub frame, as the mono only has alloy and its not strong enough. You can find them on ebay usually pretty cheap. Infact I know where one is at the mo in NZ that is possibly forsale.

**jrandom** · 4th January 2009, 05:49

Originally Posted by Madness

Actually the fluid flows through a PTFE tube that is in turn running inside the braided stainless.

Well, that makes sense. Flexible braided steel tubes aren't known for being particularly watertight.

**sidecar bob** · 4th January 2009, 07:16

Originally Posted by flame

I fitted braided lines to my first racebike. BRILLIANT improvement. No comparison. Anyway, it don't matter here because they come as part of the bike

If anyone should buy it, and replace the lines with rubber ones then I will eat my undies!

Do you have the original rubber hoses? can you organise delivery of the bike? & what colour will your undies be?

**DMNTD:Me** · 4th January 2009, 08:01

Gorgeous bike being sold at a more than reasonable price!

**flame** · 4th January 2009, 08:26

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Do you have the original rubber hoses? can you organise delivery of the bike? & what colour will your undies be?

heh...luckily for me there are no original rubber lines

**limbimtimwim** · 4th January 2009, 09:25

Originally Posted by cowboyz

Have you got a pillion seat for it?

I have all the major parts required to convert a 749 or 999 to a two seater. Subframe, plastics, foot pegs and seat.

I could sell them...

**wharfy** · 5th January 2009, 12:07

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Do you have the original rubber hoses? can you organise delivery of the bike? & what colour will your undies be?

I just knew somebody would go there...

**Rob Taylor** · 6th January 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by flame

I fitted braided lines to my first racebike. BRILLIANT improvement. No comparison. Anyway, it don't matter here because they come as part of the bike

If anyone should buy it, and replace the lines with rubber ones then I will eat my undies!

They would have to be your grandma type undies to make it fair cause your normal ones you could swollow whole!!!!!

**Trudes** · 7th January 2009, 07:26

I'm not gonna ask how you know that!!!
Vicki, I'm trying to talk Nige into ringing you up to ask for a ride, I reckon if he takes it for a ride he might just fall in love and have to buy it..... for me!

**Str8 Jacket** · 7th January 2009, 07:43

Originally Posted by Trudes

I'm not gonna ask how you know that!!!
Vicki, I'm trying to talk Nige into ringing you up to ask for a ride, I reckon if he takes it for a ride he might just fall in love and have to buy it..... for me!

hehe, Im trying to keep my man away from it! So go for it and good luck with your plan!

**vifferman** · 7th January 2009, 07:52

Originally Posted by jrandom

See, the funny thing is, for everyone I know who says they made a bike feel great, I know someone else who says they turned the brakes wooden, etc.

Can you actually comment on what a particular bike was like before and after fitting braided lines? Are you sure any improvement in the brake feel wasn't just due to things like the caliper pistons being cleaned at the same time?

OK.
When I bought the VTR, the brakes were shit - felt really spongey, due mostly to the stupid rubber lines that had a Y to split to each side, and the one that went to the left had a 'hump' over the front mudguard. It was almost impossible to bleed all the bubbles out.
Fitting braided brake lines didn't make the bike brake any harder, and yes, they felt somewhat wooden, but they were more controllable than the rubber lines.
I actually fitted two different sets - some BSR Aerotek ones (my very first KB post was about these!) which were apparently illegal, due to not having the compliance numbers printed on them. The second set were HEL. Interestingly, the Aerotek ones felt less wooden - maybe they had more flex.

Braided lines are usually teflon (or other brake fluid resistant plastic) with a steel braided outer cover to stop expansion AND resist abrasion.