4 years for tagger killer

**Manxman** · 13th February 2009, 20:07

Originally Posted by MadDuck

Having been brought up in a similar set or circumstances - it is not an excuse. No matter how bad life is we all know right from wrong. Whether we choose to ignore it or take it on board is "our" decision.

Well said.

**Dave Lobster** · 13th February 2009, 20:08

Originally Posted by Indoo

He killed a skinny 16 year old kid who had a shit childhood, with no father figure and a mum forced to work overseas to support them, brought up in a no hope street with no hope friends with none of the opportunities those who celebrate his death had.

There's always some excuse, isn't there?

**peasea** · 13th February 2009, 20:09

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

There's always some excuse, isn't there?

Yup; what's yours? Ever done anything a 'bit' bad?

**Dave Lobster** · 13th February 2009, 20:12

Originally Posted by peasea

Yup; what's yours? Ever done anything a 'bit' bad?

Damaged someone's property? Nope..

Gone out at night with the intention of getting up to no good..? Nope..

Chosen to take up a criminal way of life..? Nope..

**wbks** · 13th February 2009, 20:12

Beat the crap out of a pizza delivery man once...

**peasea** · 13th February 2009, 20:28

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

Damaged someone's property? Nope..

Gone out at night with the intention of getting up to no good..? Nope..

Chosen to take up a criminal way of life..? Nope..

Ok, none of the above 'intentionally' but c'mon, things happen; especially when drugs (like alcohol) are involved. Ya can't tell me you're a saint coz I don't believe it.

**bull** · 13th February 2009, 21:10

Originally Posted by James Deuce

I hope that sentence has caught the attention of the KB Vigilante, Posse forming, Hunting and Shooting anyone who isn't like me clan.

Think you had a typo in your spelling of the word clan - from the KB undertones it would be more relevant as Klan.

The guy killed someone - thats wrong and hes doing time for it. Yes i reckon hes good for confronting them but to take a fricking knife and use it is just plain dumb.

Personally i would have yelled obscenities to get them to leave the area and ring the cops - about all you can do without dire consequences.

**riffer** · 13th February 2009, 21:33

Yeah agree with you there dude. A startling lack of intelligence displayed by a few on this thread.

Personally I think he was bloody lucky to only get four years. Not that the kid was a saint either.

I just don't get the fuss with all this tagging shit. Seems infantile to me. Not worth killing someone over for sure.

The whole thing is just one big fuckup by both parties. What a waste.

On a slightly less serious note, it's interesting this thread has reached 8 pages and over a hundred posts and yet has attracted no tags as yet... :|

**Paul in NZ** · 13th February 2009, 23:36

Oh gawd....

Actually - 4 to 5 years is a pretty average sentence for manslaughter in NZ.

Problem is - we all look at this case veiwed through our own life lived experiences so we assume the 52 yr old white business man is a crazed facist stalking an innocent cherubic coloured kid out for a golly jape or at the other extreme a decent family bloke was defending his property against a couple of right little thugs with no respect.

Um - a Judge (who sees this shit daily) and a Jury have examined ALL the evidence presented and made a decision NOT based on their own lives.

They have agreed that the was no preformed intent to murder and that means manslaughter AND 4.3 years is a pretty average sentence for manslaughter AND the judge went to great lengths to explain why...

Erm - seems like a fair result - no ones happy!

**RDJ** · 13th February 2009, 23:53

Originally Posted by Quasievil

The level of redneck fucking attitude on this forum is mindblowing

Charming. If you have an argument, then make it please.

**RDJ** · 14th February 2009, 00:00

Originally Posted by riffer

I just don't get the fuss with all this tagging shit. Seems infantile to me. Not worth killing someone over for sure.

Certainly not worth a killing by anybody, or of anybody.

But tagging is hardly infantile in terms of its results.

A while back elderly relatives were harassed by "juvenile" taggers painting fairly nasty graffiti. Repeatedly. Police said they could not act after the fact, and could not prevent the fact, and would not take action even when photos given of taggers in the act.

Cleaning up after said taggers stole about 40 hours total of our time, and about 400$ in paint etc. That's not just tagging, that's theft of time and money.

Tagging is not victimless. If you have to work for 40 hours to replace a bike accessory somebdy stole, then working 40 hours to repair damage somebody did is in terms of your life, pretty much an equal loss.

Not so?

**Laxi** · 14th February 2009, 00:03

simply if you pull a knife you had better damn well be prepared to use it, he obviously was so he should be prepared to do the time, he got off bloody lightly

**Skyryder** · 14th February 2009, 00:23

Wonder if the same jury would feel the same with assault.

Not guilty your Honour as the victim fell on the fist/boot etc of the accused.

Skyryder

**98tls** · 14th February 2009, 00:40

Originally Posted by riffer

Yeah agree with you there dude. A startling lack of intelligence displayed by a few on this thread.

Personally I think he was bloody lucky to only get four years. Not that the kid was a saint either.

I just don't get the fuss with all this tagging shit. Seems infantile to me. Not worth killing someone over for sure.

The whole thing is just one big fuckup by both parties. What a waste.

On a slightly less serious note, it's interesting this thread has reached 8 pages and over a hundred posts and yet has attracted no tags as yet... :|

Go figure...........another that sees this as simply tagging,wake the fuck up,ive read some shit in this thread but this takes the cake,read the papers watch the news, if you really need to look up the stats theres only one ethnic group thats fucked this country and the sooner you at least call a spade a spade the better so it can be dealt with but no lets all just carry on shelling out for the fuckers via welfare,racist be fucked,hater of bludgers fuckin eh yea i am and in my years the worst of them are niggers,until you provide proof that changes my opinion of them then it wont.Happy to be proven wrong............until then all you cunts that cry racist need to front up or shut the fuck up.Simple really.Signed one sick of being fucked over by black cunts pretending to be Kiwis white boy.Good chance for the hippies to chuck some red shit about.