Workplace urine test

[firefighter]

Why the fuck would the army want those scum. The armys got no use for anyone who doesn't want to be there

They'd blend in with the rest of them then......

It can be difficult at times to get people to do things who want to be there (in the real Army), these kids, shy of hitting them, won't do as they're told.

Shoot them in the face.

[peasea]

So.. with the fire ban on and all... what would happen to them if someone reported that they were burning in a 44gallon drum?

It shits me, that indirectly, I contribute to their rent so that they can stay home and party 3 or 4 days and nights a week in the garage right next to my boundary with their two fuckin rabid pitbulls launching themselves at the hedge each time I go near.(they havent been out of the section in the two and a half years that they have lived there.) These people live in a dust bowl of dried dogshit, empty beer bottles, broken down nissans and blown- burnout tyres
and the motherfruckin Bass speakers thumping out "By the Rivers of Babylon" and "Silvia's Mother Says" all night while they sing along and drink themselves legless on two kegs of Waikato each week then their friends drive home or sleep on couches in the garden then start all over again at 6.30am with "I shot the Sherriff-But I didnt shoot the Deputy"

apart from them, the neighbourhood is great! all homeowners with jobs and lives and nice gardens.

Don't you like Waikato?

[Maki]

Yes to drugs checks, but we still have to support these people. Vouchers for food and clothing, rent, power and the like paid directly to landlords is a better way to go, than simply paying cash for the wasters that some of them are to spend as they see fit, leaving kids hungry and bills unpaid.

Good idea, but it would mean a downturn in income from pokie machines...

[peasea]

Good idea, but it would mean a downturn in income from pokie machines...

That's right, and don't they use some of that money to treat gambling addictions?

[Dave Lobster]

It can be difficult at times to get people to do things who want to be there (in the real Army), these kids, shy of hitting them, won't do as they're told.

Put them in a real army. They'll get hit there. Attitude problems can be sorted out within 48 hours.. really, really easily

[Mom]

I am actually serious about replacing cash with vouchers and bill/rent payments. I used to manage property and one of my absolute bug bears was the tenants that paid their rent last, read never.

I can not say how many letters I wrote to WINZ saying I wanted payment of $xxx or else I was teminating the tenancy. Without fail, WINZ coughed up the arrears. Now this is a gift, the beneficiaries do not have to repay.

For some I used to ask that I got paid directly from WINZ before the tenant got paid. The beneficiary has to agree to it and sign a piece of paper saying so, trouble is they can cancel the agreement whenever they want. WINZ discourage this practise as they want these people to take ownership of their bugetting. What a joke that is in most of the cases I dealt with.

[Boob Johnson]

I am actually serious about replacing cash with vouchers and bill/rent payments.

And its a bloody good idea Mom, long over due. I have had a few bottom feeders through here this past winter, the scam is they get WINZ to pay for say two weeks up front then they check out after a much shorter time & request a refund for days not stayed but I refuse to give them cash back & will only ever put funds back into a WINZ account. This up sets them terribly But hey, fuck em I say. Even had WINZ staff saying it was ok without proper paper work so I go one step further & speak with their superiors, im fucked if ill help some bottom feeder continue leeching off society

[Marmoot]

A beneficiary was told to head to a loan shark, pawn their cell phone and their children's Play Station by a Work and Income staff member.

WTF is with that?

My answer: Nothing!
When I was a wee toddler, our family was so poor I was being perched on my neighbour's fence most nights to watch their TV from the roadside. Did we ask for government assistance? No! My dad worked to his bone to earn us enough money to buy food. We fought through.

People nowadays are so spoiled in their illusions they got their priorities wrong.
It's better to spend the money on things they need, and get off their butt to spend 30 minutes a day with their children rather than feeding them through the playstation.

[Boob Johnson]

A beneficiary was told to head to a loan shark, pawn their cell phone and their children's Play Station by a Work and Income staff member.

WTF is with that?

My answer: Nothing!
When I was a wee toddler, our family was so poor I was being perched on my neighbour's fence most nights to watch their TV from the roadside. Did we ask for government assistance? No! My dad worked to his bone to earn us enough money to buy food. We fought through.

People nowadays are so spoiled in their illusions they got their priorities wrong.
It's better to spend the money on things they need, and get off their butt to spend 30 minutes a day with their children rather than feeding them through the playstation.

Damn straight Marmoot

[FROSTY:Me]

Im sure Im repeating myself here but I remember years ago I was yard supervisor at a timber yard. They folded up --no warning to the workers just pulled the pin. -SORRY no job we're broke --so not a penny in redundancy money.
I had wife and kid to feed and a morgage to pay.
The way we worked it then was one week was morgage week the next was food week
So of course it was food week and the food was low
Went to WINZ to get a bit of help. Job hunting and food etc.
I was told to go sell the tv. I kid you not.
Meanwhile sitting at the desk next to me a person was wailing and rocking totally reeking of booze. They said they diddn't have the dole/dpb money to pay for food. Yup --they got a payout right there and then to buy food.

WHEN is this country gonna get tough on the bludgers that make a lifestyle CHOICE to be on the dole/DPB/ sickness benifit?
Instead of shuffling them from one benifit type to another to hide the problem

[3umph]

yes unfortunately now days being on a benefit long term is now seen as a profession and guaranteed income

[Boob Johnson]

WHEN is this country gonna get tough on the bludgers that make a lifestyle CHOICE to be on the dole/DPB/ sickness benifit?
Instead of shuffling them from one benifit type to another to hide the problem

Give Keys a chance, he'll sort these bottom feeders out given enough time

[Dave Lobster]

WHEN is this country going to get tough on the bludgers that make a lifestyle CHOICE to be on the dole/DPB/ sickness benefit?

Ha ha.. NEVER!

You can't do it. Even giving them heaps of free land doesn't get them off the dole/DPB/etc.

[paulmac:Me]

Message from a hard-working Kiwi

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my
taxes as it sees fit.

In order to earn that pay cheque, as I work in the timber industry, I
am required to pass a random urine test, which I have no problem
in passing.

What I do have a problem with, is the distribution of my taxes to
people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque
because I have to pass one to earn it for them??
Please understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on
their arse drinking piss & smoking dope all day.
Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to
pass a urine test to get a WINZ cheque???
Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't.

Hope you all will pass it along though, because something has to
change in this country, and soon!

[98tls]

Been posted before but he sure does have a point.All this bullshit re regos etc could be avoided (temporary) by sorting out the many thousands of welfare bludging scumbuckets this countrys bred,before any tree hugger jumps up n down i dont mean all recipients of welfare just the ones that live off it for no good reason other than there sacks of lazy shite.