Mohsin leathers. Any good?

[200BUSA]

Well for me .... this thread was about discussing how good .... or not, Mohsin's leather gear is. I think it is relevant if people comment on that point, based on knowledge of his product from using it, or having used it recently, or have reliable anecdotal evidence of a friend or someone that uses Mohsin's products.

What I objected to ... once again, was another dealer starting to slag or bring down in some way, this dealers gear. That is unprofessional, and not at all needed, as really good gear stands up on it's own merits, without the supplier having to denigrate anyone elses gear, to make his achieve a high status. It doesn't matter if someone is "passionate" about motorcycling and motorcyclists safety or not. That doesn't give them the right to denigrate other dealers gear, no matter who it is. I wouldn't hesitate to defend Quasi, if other dealers started to have a go at him. It's a principal at stake here, and some genuine dealers reputations can be ruined easily enough by others listening to, and heading the advice of a senior member of this forum, which Quasi would seem to be. He has a strong following for his products and obviously many friends here. That doesn't give him the right to slag other dealers off.
Anyone who sells gear on here .... or anywhere else for that matter, will sink or swim on the basis of the quality and value for money of their product. No dealer here deserves to have his or her gear rubbished by a fellow dealer. That is my objection. In my view, it is about professionalism and character.

I agree - I wont sell my bike gear on here as i dont want my gear being said it is crap when i know its good. If someone wants to slag off anyones gear, make sure they have bought some first and tested it.
Good on Moshin and 1Tonne and all other dealers for trying to provide riders with a choice instead of having to pay a high sum of money - just for a brand name.
Customer service is the most important thing to me.

[Gizzit]

I agree - I wont sell my bike gear on here as i dont want my gear being said it is crap when i know its good. If someone wants to slag off anyones gear, make sure they have bought some first and tested it.
Good on Moshin and 1Tonne and all other dealers for trying to provide riders with a choice instead of having to pay a high sum of money - just for a brand name.
Customer service is the most important thing to me.

Yes my sentiments exactly. I hope you have a good outlet then. The others, Mohsin, 1Tonne, Lifestyle (aka Madmax5 ?), sell on trademe and are present on here .... and I see that as a good thing. There is always room in the market for more players as far as consumers are concerned. It gives us choice! And I wish all dealers the best of luck.
I haven't tried Mohsin's gear personally yet, but have heard some good reports. I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if I wanted something he had. I have got some 1Tonne cordura gear, and as yet haven't worn it on my scoot, but am confident that it will suit my purpose and perform as well as any cordura gear available. I have a family member who uses it and likes it, although he hasn't crashed in it, so we have no knowledge of how well it performs, but likely as good as any other cordura gear. I have got one of Lifestyle Imports leather jackets,and can say that it looks very robust and well made. It's comfortable. I'm confident that it will work in protecting my skin ... but hopefully will never get to test that! I have owned Quasi's gear, and thought it was generally pretty good.
It would be good to have feedback from those people that have binned in any dealer's gear, as first hand knowledge of what they found worked ... or didn't. I see that as helping us as consumers, and dealers as far as feedback on their products. There has been good reports about Quasi's gear in crashes, so it would be good to hear how others have found .. other gear!

[Stromble]

I had an off (lowside) at around 100Kmh, had jeans on and a Mohsin touring jacket and kevlar knuckle gloves..

My leg was shredded.. Levis= no protection and a week in hospital on an IV to stop infection..
Arm was only grazed with heat rash from the slide and the knuckles half ground off the gloves, but hand fine..

The jacket got a small tear in the sleeve but didnt go through the inner lining.. I replaced it with another of the same jacket which i still use for long rides.. Great fit and from experience good protection.

Also now have a pair of Mohsin leather pants, luckily I havent tested these on the metal as yet..

I think we need to get some more info on what the moshins/1tonnes gear are like after its been binned. And really see if there is a difference in the amount of wear and the how the seams have held up.
Anyone out there which such knowledge??

[ynot slow]

I have Lifestyle Imports boots,bloody comfy and priced competetively,when I've been in rain they haven't leaked,reccomend them,but then again they don't have fancy name so must be crap.Haven't fallen off,albeit a zero km off,and boot crushed under the engine and no marks even.

[bounce]

a mate has one of these jackets. seems to be well built and of decent weight leather. Fit is very poor though and the armour is pretty uncomfortable compared to my Shift M1.

[Gizzit]

Well I have just bought via auction, one of Mohsin's leather jackets, so will soon have it, and get to see exactly what they are like, and I will report here how I find it. However, .... I'm hoping never to be able to tell you what kind of protection it offers in a crash !!! Sorry .... not even for the sake of research science.... am I going to "try and bin" !! lol.

I'll happily discuss how I find the quality and fit of the jacket, and what the armour is like. I'm sure it's going to be fine!

[Neon]

What we need is

a) each supplier to kindly donate a leather jacket / pants which is representative of the product they sell, in the name of 'science'

b) some mannekins

c) a ute that is capable of 100km/h

and to dress said mannekins and eject them forthwith from the back of the ute at said speed on a clear piece of road and watch the action.

then compare the results.

Or, we could just suggest it to a couple of university engineering departments, I'm sure someone would do some empirical testing (possibly with slightly more validity that the method above) as a 4th year project.



I'm of the opinion that this discussion is worthless without proper unbiased empirical testing. Anecdotal evidence is exactly that - anectotal. And always biased. Even if the bias is being deliberately unbiased

[Gizzit]

Riding bikes is not like that mate. We buy gear, we try it out, tell others if it's crap or good, .... it isn't science. It is just purely "anecdotal", with the acknowledgment that it is someones opinion, and possibly/probably biased.

One thing you can discover though, is if people buy gear, and report that it's good, or bad, and then if that becomes more of a consistent experience of several users .... then there is a good chance that the collective experience is indicative of quality of any product. IMHO.

[Quasievil]

If I can offer in closing these comments to you all.

This thread started of with someone asking if the Mohsin brand is any good, to which I replied, you get what you pay for.........not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone, its a basic reality and I have said this before, ya do get what you pay for (Im sorry I will take the to the grave) this was replied to by Mohsin suggesting sour grapes and anti competitive behaviour etc and a suggestion that my brand belongs in the bargin bin of the Warehouse, I challenged this statement with a direct comparision between the two brands (as ya would).
since then............on this thread I dont think I have said anything harsh at all................APART from two days ago where I posted the want the pricelist comment, which was really a off the cuff comment which I FULLY APOLOGIZE FOR I dont have the pricelist of course and it was an off the cuff comment which in my absence has got outta hand......sorry.

Since then however I think a few of you are getting a bit carried away (frankly) I challenge you to read back through and actually see who is getting the bashing here, if its for what I have said previously then I again apologize to you.

I hold a very strong and genuine interest in Motorcycle gear and its safety for the rider, I think most of you know this, I do need to adjust my attitude a bit, I will take that on board but dont doubt my honour or integrity as Rambo69 (1tonne) promotes as I dont think I have particualry slagged of anyone to a level that justifies some of the comments posted really.

Ive had a discussion with the mods here and indicated that I will be more careful with my Quasievil login as of course it is seen as QUASiMOTO also (fair enough)

So again I aplogize to those that have got upset towards me.

Have a nice day, time for A&E from Paeroa crashin........oh and two crashes no rips lol (eeeek can I say that)

[Gizzit]

"This thread started of with someone asking if the Mohsin brand is any good, to which I replied, you get what you pay for.........not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone,"

....., " not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone" ......

IMHO .... I think that we can all draw conclusions about that statement ....

Lets hope .... that there IS no more product bashing, by any supplier ... against any other supplier. IMHO I think as consumers we can voice our opinions of how we find any kind of gear, bike, or whatever .... on this forum, be it positive or negative , .... if it is constructive or helpful to others.

However IMHO, any dealer on here, deserves the right to have any concerns about his/her product dealt with in private via email/phone calls, or whatever .... FIRST, before their products reputation is ripped apart in a public forum, where damage to a dealer's reputation can be serious. I believe that bringing real legitimate concerns about a product should only be brought here LAST, if you have failed to get a satisfactory remedy via contact with the supplier FIRST.

Just my opinion .....

[Quasievil]

"This thread started of with someone asking if the Mohsin brand is any good, to which I replied, you get what you pay for.........not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone,"

....., " not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone" ......

IMHO .... I think that we can all draw conclusions about that statement ....

Lets hope .... that there IS no more product bashing, by any supplier ... against any other supplier. IMHO I think as consumers we can voice our opinions of how we find any kind of gear, bike, or whatever .... on this forum, be it positive or negative , .... if it is constructive or helpful to others.

However IMHO, any dealer on here, deserves the right to have any concerns about his/her product dealt with in private via email/phone calls, or whatever .... FIRST, before their products reputation is ripped apart in a public forum, where damage to a dealer's reputation can be serious. I believe that bringing real legitimate concerns about a product should only be brought here LAST, if you have failed to get a satisfactory remedy via contact with the supplier FIRST.

Just my opinion .....

Take is as you like Mr Gizzit, thank you for the red rep for what was a genuine apology, I sometimes forget that this is KB

Cheers

[nallac]

jeeze thats nice, getting red rep for saying ya are sorry......

[Gizzit]

Take is as you like Mr Gizzit, thank you for the red rep for what was a genuine apology, I sometimes forget that this is KB

Cheers

Well Quasi ... you didn't hesitate to give me a couple of "red reps" for my comments. They are the first I have ever got.
Be a Big boy .... and get over it. You got feedback from a few people on here, not just me, that don't like your tactics with regard to slagging other gear suppliers off, (and not just in this particular thread) in an effort to keep your potential market share.
Lets leave it there, and stop the swapping of pleasantries ... Best of luck with your QMOTO brand, and to 1Tonne, Mohsin, Lifestyle Imports, and any other suppliers on here ...

[1tonne]

Thanks for that Gizzit.

[Quasievil]

that don't like your tactics with regard to slagging other gear suppliers off, (and not just in this particular thread) in an effort to keep your potential market share.

So you keep saying.

Cant recall red repping you but as you like

Thanks for the kind wishes for the future

Ive said all I need to say