New Green Party co-leader

**MisterD** · 25th February 2009, 11:34

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

A report has been released that under the proposed new tax cuts , the working family will be worse off ( heard that on national radio today so not sure of details yet)

The pinkos over at the Stranded (no, I'm not going to link to it) are spinning the heck out of this...

The real "story" is that people on $40k with kids are $250 worse off than they would have been under the planned Liarbour policy...I believe they're still better off than they were, and since we know that by now "Dr" Sullen would have used the economic crisis as a pretext to cancel any tax cuts it's kind of a moot point.

**Brian d marge** · 25th February 2009, 12:38

Originally Posted by MisterD

The pinkos over at the Stranded (no, I'm not going to link to it) are spinning the heck out of this...
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thats true ...its quite hard to find the real truth ...I read the Hanzard ...and the select commitee reports ,,,but even then ,,,

Still , if long hours and a unaffordable mortgage appeals ... Carry on ....

Stephen

**klingon** · 25th February 2009, 12:40

Originally Posted by spudchucka

The fact that the Green party puts such whackos on their list indicates the general nature of those they are wanting to get to vote for them.

Example: Pot smokers, disaffected youth, life time beneficiaries, hippies, extreme feminists, communists, limp wristed hand wringing socialists, professional protesters...

Other examples: Diplomats, business owners, lawyers, scientists, farmers, sports people, designers, university lecturers, parents, assorted professionals.

Originally Posted by spudchucka

...and the occasional genuine environmentalist just to keep the face of the organisation from showing its true colours.

You must have missed my post where I pointed out that the global Green charter specifies four equal values: environmentalism, social justice, democracy and non-violence.

http://www.globalgreens.org/globalcharter

If you want an environmental-only organisation, try Forest & Bird or similar. A political party is not the place for single issues.

**Indiana_Jones** · 25th February 2009, 12:53

Originally Posted by klingon

non-violence.

Violence fixes everything!

Which reminds me of another point everyone shouldn't vote green party.

They want to ban Semi-Auto guns for private use.

They can fuck off.

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

....Should get a semi-auto sometime though lol

-Indy

**MisterD** · 25th February 2009, 12:56

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

They want to ban anything that gives other people pleasure

Fixxored for you...

**Indiana_Jones** · 25th February 2009, 13:09

Originally Posted by MisterD

Fixxored for you...

ah thanks!

-Indy

**firefighter** · 25th February 2009, 21:07

Originally Posted by Skyryder

On of the things that impresses me the most is not how a person dresses or for that matter look, but how they act. I've seen bikers act with more decorum than some buisness people. While we all, to some extent judge people on apprearence, as you get to know them be it personlly or through the media it's not how they look but what they say and do.

It was you who suggested the analogy as an ex member of the NZDF between yourself and Bradford.

So just how you have come to the conclusion that you don't feel the need to prove to me that you have been a member of two services I have no idea. But the fact that you have said that you have put in 'the hard yards' suggests to me that you do........otherwise why mention it??

Skyryder

Your going to miss/duck/dive out of the way of my point no matter how I put it....so i'll save my time.

oh, and by the way, I wrote that iv'e "put in my yards"......and I wrote that so if you are currently serving or have served you'd know what I was meaning, had you been in either category it would have been 'nuff said.
That's why I mentioned it.

Fucken hell.

**Skyryder** · 25th February 2009, 21:20

Originally Posted by klingon

Other examples: Diplomats, business owners, lawyers, scientists, farmers, sports people, designers, university lecturers, parents, assorted professionals.

And look what happened when a cop got in to Parliment. Got tossed out of the Nats and joined Winstones lot. Never made the grade there either.

Skyryder

**Skyryder** · 25th February 2009, 21:48

Originally Posted by firefighter

Your going to miss/duck/dive out of the way of my point no matter how I put it....so i'll save my time.

What point is that? That like you, we should all judge people by the way they look? Start spouting that bullshit at your next biker rally and you'll be walking home.

Skyryder

**candor** · 25th February 2009, 21:55

Be careful, stuck with this most challenging of all political questions this era, they may look to the KB poll for guidance about who shall entertain us.

We know the Bradshaws ins and outs, met her in a select committee room once and she wasn't foaming at the mouth as expected, actually spoke sanely. Turei however has an air of mystery. The only resume I could find said she stands for the grass-roots, open to interpretation that. The party is probably anti competition/failure so may have 3 leaders if it can't be resolved.

**puddytat** · 25th February 2009, 23:27

Originally Posted by klingon

b) The average IQ of the group calling themselves the Random Trollops is likely to be about double the average IQ of the group calling themselves Kiwi Biker.

Originally Posted by spudchucka

The fact that the Green party puts such whackos on their list indicates the general nature of those they are wanting to get to vote for them.

Example: Pot smokers, disaffected youth, life time beneficiaries, hippies, extreme feminists, communists, limp wristed hand wringing socialists, professional protesters and the occasional genuine environmentalist just to keep the face of the organisation from showing its true colours.

**Brian d marge** · 26th February 2009, 01:52

Originally Posted by candor

Be careful, stuck with this most challenging of all political questions this era, they may look to the KB poll for guidance about who shall entertain us.

We know the Bradfordss ins and outs, met her in a select committee room once and she wasn't foaming at the mouth as expected, actually spoke sanely. Turei however has an air of mystery. The only resume I could find said she stands for the grass-roots, open to interpretation that. The party is probably anti competition/failure so may have 3 leaders if it can't be resolved.

one off the methods you can use ( to determine the shoe tying ability ) is how the speaker uses the English language ( assuming its his /her first language ) ..... Bradford's is,,,,,,,,,,,,,, well ...........I still am not sure what Chups are ? ...I saw her once face off against ,,the other brain of the century ,,,Mary Lambie ( who surprise surprise is married to Jim Mora ?? who hosts afternoons on National radfio) ...... well Bradford stormed out ...after throwuing toys out off cot during the break .....

No sitr , Sock puppet and I both agree that Bradford will be bad for country ,,,, So in the name of nationalism ..I have sent some rechargable batteries to Parliment , in the hope that they will keep Bradford amused ..

Stephen

**MisterD** · 26th February 2009, 07:41

Holy dim bitch, Batman...Bradford's take on Economics is we're all doomed

Originally Posted by Kiwiblog

You should have seen the faces in the audience at Backbenches last night, when Wallace Chapman asked the panel how bad they thought the current recession would be.

Sue answered that she thought it would be worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s, and further that it would last for the rest of her lifetime!

**davereid** · 26th February 2009, 07:56

Originally Posted by klingon

As for the eco-issues vs social issues, the Greens... have always been based on the four principles of ecology, social justice, non-violence and democracy.

Haha... they don't understand ecology and cause and effect, particularly with regard to energy.

They love violence - thats what the "ban" word means - use the governments monopoly on violence to stop someone else doing something.

Social justice ? You mean lots of ways to get a benefit.
Sue Bradford once said "working for the dole is like getting periodic detention for being unemployed"

This shows she equates work with punishment. Fortunately the rest of us see it as an opportunity ! Mind you, if "working for the dole is like periodic detention for not having a job", Income tax is like being fined for having one !

Democracy ? Democracy actually occurs when there are three boys in the playground, and two of them vote thats is OK to beat the third one up and take his lunch. Thats the green approach - as long as we have a majority we can take / limit / restrict / appropriate other peoples resources as we see fit.

On the bright side, the starving don't do a survey of the number of fish left in the pond before they eat one. As the recession bites, green ideas will become less fashionable.

I guess the "social justice" will be popular, so I'm going to eat my lunch now, before the greens decide that there is someone more deserving who should eat it.