Round 5 of NZ Superbikes may be canned?

[ajturbo]

I'm not sure I understand you. Are you saying do away with Clubmans at Club level or at National level? I'm not to sure you can just enter a Nationals event without having raced before which could be a hitch.
VMCC ran the open twins to get all those RS250's, TZ's, BEARs, Posties and all those other twins out there. You saw the result - is $250 entry too much for a one-off chance to race the old (possibly now-without-a-class) bike? I didn't think so. But hardly anyone took the opportunity.

hey skunk... that is the MAIN reason i didn't enter the race, it just cost tooo much...i simply couldn't afford it, plus i would have needed 2 sets of tires on top ..!!

was it 3 races we would have got ...?

$250 + (nearly)$800 for tires for 3 races.... yeah right.

[Skunk]

No it's not. You can scratch together 5-600 bux to do a club race if you need to, but finding 10g ain't so easy....

Firstly, I burned 4K last year at Puke in one meeting and that was only using three rear tyres and two fronts. Had I used the six of each I really would have liked to have used, that would easily chew ten grand.

In regards to Deaths other comments, I think he's more getting at the fact that his ten year old bike, is not elligible in the National Production Superbike rules.

Sorry, I'm talking about the cost for a replacement bike (billy stated it was the cheap part), and a few seasons old one at that. Something competitive would be around 40g I would think?
But even with that, I don't have a spare $1300 lying around either...

Thanks guys. I'm trying to think of solutions. I'm getting the feeling that it's not the entry cost that's the big issue - it's the competitive bike cost and it's running costs.
Nationals are two day events. Would one day events help? I don't think that's an answer though. It doesn't address the competitive bike issue.

If the costs came down to Club event levels would you enter even if you weren't on a competitive bike?

[Skunk]

This is what I don't understand (yet). Many will do track days and club events and then say that it costs too much to do a National meet. Apart from it being two days together and $100 more to enter what's the difference?
Do tyres not wear at a track day or Club event?

[burtsidecar16]

hi guys and girls I just got an email tonight from the great people at the auckland motorcycle club saying the meeting is going ahead reguardless and the more entries they get the better and they have waived the late entry fee so everyone whos thinking about gat moving they work bloody hard for all of us to go racing so lets help them by all entering

[rsnut]

I agree Shunk - whats the big difference between club racing & Nationals ? Get a bike you can afford to run in the class of your choice, do your budget, make a plan & do it !

If your bike eats tyres, its the bike you chose to run, do you have the budget ?

It's your choice of bike, your budget, you choose the class, your satisfaction.

If you choose to run in small pond with the local fish that's fine, if you choose to run in the big pond (NZ's not really that big !) to measure yourself on the National scale that's fine too.

As we come from the south, its hard to understand the problems the clubs are having up north with lack of local support - bring on streetstock & the likes, it was way the biggest class at the SI rounds. I saw only fun,smiles, hard racing & no complaints !

We're doing the full series again, boy does it lift your game - bring on Puke !

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

If the costs came down to Club event levels would you enter even if you weren't on a competitive bike?

Yes (if I had a race bike!). When I did have a race bike I weighed up doing the manfield round. I was looking at $400 entry for the 3 days. I would want new tyres, because its the nationals and I want to do the event justice, and spoil myself. So thats $1000 to cough up. Damn, thats 1/2 of my winter series budget blown in 3 days!! [insert tui slogan here]. Thats not even including gas, accomodation or food. It comes down to affordability. If you can afford to draw, lets just say, $1000 from your account and burn it in 3 days, then all power to you. If you cant, you cant race. With all due respect, its that simply. I would strongly suggest that the cost factor is the biggest thing stopping club riders from having a nudge.

[Billy]

Why do you not hear what I'm saying. I'm a rider and I'm saying I cannot afford a new (read half competitive) bike. You're not hearing me. Listen to the riders.
I know you cannot help this, but it IS a good example of the lack of listening going on.
Plenty are saying they can't afford to run. Listen. Telling them they are wrong really doesn't fix it.
(Oh, and I do get some of it is not anything that can be helped by the organising club/mnz)

Im not listening??You quoted me and stated it was cheaper too run a 5yr old 600 than it is a new 1 and Im telling you its not!!Read Jimmys post and understand he would have spent the same amount of money at that Puke meeting whether he was riding the WBP GSXR 1000 k7/8 or say for arguments sake Brian Bernards K4 Gsxr1000,The running costs are the same whether the bikes brand new or 5 years old and while we are on the subject the argument in this thread was about the shortage of riders at the Nationals not the $500-$600 club days you mentioned

[DEATH_INC.]

Im not listening??You quoted me and stated it was cheaper too run a 5yr old 600 than it is a new 1 and Im telling you its not!!

No, I didn't. I said it's cheaper to race the bike you already own. (Tho not in those words....)
I'm not gonna say the running costs are less, coz they aren't.

[DEATH_INC.]

Thanks guys. I'm trying to think of solutions.
Nationals are two day events. Would one day events help?

Yes, I believe so. Less costs all round (accommodation track hire etc.) gotta help

[DEATH_INC.]

It doesn't address the competitive bike issue.

Don't put too much into my situation, if I had an older thou and the costs were less I may consider puke. The speed difference is just too great in my case at puke. I'd run a national if ya did one at Taupo on the old girl (and the cost wasn't prohibitive )

[Toot Toot]

Iand fanta]
The last nationals at puke....probally won't be remember for very long...

I will remember that meeting for ever.

[suzuki21]

Oh yeh, and mine's an older 120hp 750....prolly not the safest thing to run at puke with the 200hp thous

You would be suprised at how much power the big boys bikes arent putting out, dont believe in the rumours from riders that cant keep up.

[CHOPPA]

You would be suprised at how much power the big boys bikes arent putting out, dont believe in the rumours from riders that cant keep up.

I can tell you they are putting out more then mine mate! I wouldnt believe the shit someone called suzuki21 says when i can take the word of someone riding one of these bikes does....

[Maido]

I can tell you they are putting out more then mine mate! I wouldnt believe the shit someone called suzuki21 says when i can take the word of someone riding one of these bikes does....

Hey Choppa, John has is K7 thou for sale, 185 ATW, give me a PM if you are after a little more horse!

[DEATH_INC.]

You would be suprised at how much power the big boys bikes arent putting out, dont believe in the rumours from riders that cant keep up.

I've ridden Gixser's monster, and it's prolly nowhere near the fastest out there, no, my old girl only does 250-260 down the back of puke, i believe that's not safe with guys doing around 320...
(look goddamit, you guys are making it look like I have ed's excuse book.....I really can't afford it, and my bike isn't eligible either ok?)