Oh good one Key: saving jobs - Bullshit

[Delerium]

What amazes me is the complexity of getting a bloody rain coat.

I mean the army has what - 4000-5000 guys.

Supported by a head office the size of the swazi factory. Which had to contract an aussie company to order a raincoat.

The local high schools here are bigger than the bloody army.

They get the office lady to get three quotes, and next years uniform requiments are sorted.

There should be job losses here, but they should be in Wellington.

closer to 10,000 including territorials. also dont forget that the issued clothing is tri service and not just army issue.

[Delerium]

Go back a few pages and read an earlier post of mine, there's other things to consider in the big picture, like the savings made from a hugely over priced factory will probably go towards upgrading the NZDF's assets-which by the way can no-longer be ignored (uncle helen should have done this when the money was there, instead there's now fucked defence areas which need immediate work done-guess how many million needs to be spent on whenuapais infastructure alone thanks to shitbour?)
It's all part of tightening up the money being spent, and redirecting funds as best as possible to keep things going, upgrade, repair and maintain the big picture.....everyone seems to have missed out on this reality behind it and focussed on the whole- "oh my god an overpriced factory was outbid by china"

hmmmm such as bristol block, the hangers, the runway, and most working areas that need upgrading and roof work. unfortunately not only whenuapai needs work, but you already know that.

[Sollyboy]

Would you like to provide some evidence to back up this outrageous statement?

I could think of 50,000,000 of them

[MSTRS:Me]

....they're already retracting on things they said they'd implement....

Like what? The 2010 second installment tax relief that Liarbour 'promised'? Key agreed to honour that blatant vote-buying ploy simply to introduce a level paying (sic) field. Did you fail to notice the changed world economic outlook?
Oh, how short memories can be. How's your chewing gum lasting?

[Drunken Monkey]

... that they source all the gear locally where they can (like the US has done)....

Hmmm, but that's a slightly not-above-board one. The US military gear is supplied by US companies, however it's not all necessarily made in the USA. Some of the clothing is "hencho en Honduras", amongst other places. That gear is made under contract to a US supplier who has the mil contract. So it's not all roses, so to speak.

[Skyryder]

Of the twenty ideas that came out of Fridays Jobs Summit only one has been tagged with a financial figure in today’s Christchurch Press (28-Feb-09) Yep no prizes for this one. Government to put money into $60 million fund, in partnership with the private sector for TOURISM AND DEVELOPMENT.

And some here will still think that this is about jobs. What a load of old cock. This was nothing more than a cheap charade at our expense for some self promotion for Key and his Ministerial portfolio.

Which is what I said at the start of this thread in my first post.


Skyryder

[davereid]

Yeah, we'll leave it up to the unions to save all the jobs, that will be best. Maybe we can get some advice from the unions at General Motors.

[Skyryder]

Yeah, we'll leave it up to the unions to save all the jobs, that will be best. Maybe we can get some advice from the unions at General Motors.

The point of my original post was that this 'talk fest' is not about jobs. You still think that it is. It's nothing more than self promotion. That many see Key as the most popular of all our PM's is only a measure of how successful he is at this or how dumb the NZ electorate is. I'd go with the former on the basis is that you can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time? AL


Skyryder

[MSTRS:Me]

You really should be in politics SR. You are full of criticism and lacking in substance. Doubt that you'd do well tho, now that we have a change in style.
The reason that Key is proving popular is because he refuses to indulge in that crap.

[MisterD]

And some here will still think that this is about jobs. What a load of old cock. This was nothing more than a cheap charade at our expense for some self promotion for Key and his Ministerial portfolio.

Except for the fact that tourism is one of our key (no pun intended) export markets...which as Johnny boy said during the campaign, is the reason he intended taking it as his portfolio rather than Art and Signing Other Peoples' Paintings, or whatever HC used to inhabit with her girlfriend, the equally unlamented J.Tizard...

Our economy revolves around primary production and tourism...any guesses which is actually the easiest to influence at short notice?

[MSTRS:Me]

Ask yourself what NZ has, that the world wants (or needs) and can't get any other way?
The answer is quite clear.

[Skyryder]

Ask yourself what NZ has, that the world wants (or needs) and can't get any other way?
The answer is quite clear.

Clean and green. What's the bet that this will be fucked with the new RMA proposals. Like does anyone believe that multi national corperations give a toss about our environment. That's where you and I live.


Skyyrder

[scumdog]

Clean and green. What's the bet that this will be fucked with the new RMA proposals. Like does anyone believe that multi national corperations give a toss about our environment. That's where you and I live.


Skyyrder

A bankrupt world won't give a fat rats arse about clean and green SR, cheapest price will be where it's at.

[smoky]

NZ depends on open and fair access to foreign markets to survive - like it or not we would not do so well only selling to our domestic market.
Yes other country's do practice protectionism and give preference to products from their own country - we kind of need the political moral high ground as an advantage in trade negotiations

So it's up to us all as individuals to protect NZ products in our domestic markets - buy NZ made

John Key - how hard do you think it is for him to talk about saving jobs when his successful career was built on a slash and burn mentality, cutting jobs in order to decrease overheads

Talk fest in Auckland on Friday - I attended and participated in one of the workshops, there were some pretty cleaver people and ideas, but it was interesting that the government had already assessed most of them, and we were largely discussing pre-concluded ideals that won't make any difference to how the government will respond to things.

A waste of time perhaps?

I did learn that 1 out of 3 companies in NZ will be laying off staff in the next 12 months!

[Oscar]

Swazzi a NZcompany losses a two mill contract from the NZ Army to China.

Another 'talkfest' on saving jobs starts tomorrow. What's the bet that the focus will be on tourism: Keys port folio.

Skyryder

Wake up.
You (and the whingeing left) can't have it both ways.
NZ lives off its exports and we whine our arses off about protectionism when it suits.

Make up your mind - free trade and CER, or job protection.