We rant and rave about inaccurate bike reporting...

[CookMySock]

Now I'd purchase that T-shirt - PRINT IT.

Its easy to make your own tee shirts.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Clothing/Bo...-208431218.htm

Steve

[cs363]

Haha yeah, its all designed to drag us into something that is not related to us, and get us wound up about it.

Is it just me, or does that sound like KB???

[Dave Lobster]

There's one of the lies and bullshit channels has the catchphrase:

Where there's a story, we'll find it..

They really should follow it up with..

whether it's there or fucking not.

[FROSTY:Me]

Does anyone remember a movie from years ago?. The interview with a famous person was heavilly dubbed.
He could never say --"Hey I diddn't say that" because he did but it was in respose to a different question or indeed the words at beginning or end were removed.
Leading questions to get the words they want.
Interviewer---so you think biker chicks have smelly arpits
Interviewee---Biker chicks have smelly what?
etc etc

[JacksColdSweat]

When my wife came to NZ from the dear old USA she had a 4 year journalism degree under her belt. At that time there was no such thing as a journalism degree in NZ - you could do journalism papers but not a degree

Within a week at the Manurewa Weekly (or similar) (the only job she could get because of the snobbish (read:jealous) attitude of the papers she applied at she had written and run a story that was picked up by both TV networks and every paper in auckland - simply thru basic journalism skills she found a real story everyone else had been to lazy to research.

I'm pretty sure you'll find 1) a lack of proper training and 2) a focus on the media AS the message rather than the message itself is what makes our journalism so poor in NZ (think big fancy sets on Campbell live to tell us stories about skateboarding dogs and an obsession with celebrity)

Not much has changed in the last 10 years

[oldrider]

(Close up item tonight for example) but we rant and rave about other things we read in the papers and see on tv and take them as gospel. Does it ever occur to anyone else here, that the other stories we rant and rave about might be just as inaccurate as the ones about bikes?

The whole purpose of that program was to disinfranchise motorcyclists as legitimate legal motorists!

You wonder why other motorists don't see us?

It's because to them, mentally we don't exist and should not be on the road, therefore it is safe and legitimate for them to proceed rather than give way to a motorcycle.

If the (so called) authorities changed and displayed a more positive attitude toward motorcycles as a legitimate, legal and desirable mode of transport, so too would the attitude of the rest of the motoring public!

I will conceed at this point that Katman's thrust, that we should do more to encourage them to change their attitude by behaving in a like kind of manner, is correct!

I.E. Would that God the gift to give us, to see our selves as, others see us! (Robbie Burns, poet)

That said, the Close Up program was a crock of shit! John.

[Ocean1]

"Kiwi Biker: A haven for spotty geeks, mildly depressed family men trying to escape from reality, and grumpy grandads in sheds since 2002!"

And who the fuck invited you?

Not even the International news?

Or the weather.

They've given up, there. "Forecasts" these days run like: "And in the North Island today there was a spot of rain".

Forecast obviously means sommat other than what Ms Ecklestone thrashed me for whan I failed to do my homework.

[Winston001]

Sheesh guys and gals, I give you a line on a plate with The Spanish Inquisition and........nuthin?

[jrandom]

And who the fuck invited you?

I'm all of the above.

[jrandom]

Sheesh guys and gals, I give you a line on a plate with The Spanish Inquisition and........nuthin?

We didn't expect it.

[Robert Taylor]

The whole purpose of that program was to disinfranchise motorcyclists as legitimate legal motorists!

You wonder why other motorists don't see us?

It's because to them, mentally we don't exist and should not be on the road, therefore it is safe and legitimate for them to proceed rather than give way to a motorcycle.

If the (so called) authorities changed and displayed a more positive attitude toward motorcycles as a legitimate, legal and desirable mode of transport, so too would the attitude of the rest of the motoring public!

I will conceed at this point that Katman's thrust, that we should do more to encourage them to change their attitude by behaving in a like kind of manner, is correct!

I.E. Would that God the gift to give us, to see our selves as, others see us! (Robbie Burns, poet)

That said, the Close Up program was a crock of shit! John.

I hear where you are coming from and I was puzzled with some of the comments from the deceaseds friend. Much as I dislike the mans politics at least Phil Goff clarified that most people as they get older are more cautious and have a greater sense of mortality.
Interesting to see that diesel may have been a contributing factor in that accident, hardly surprising on that road and also the failure of all Governments to date to sort out the trucking industries ongoing diesel and effluent spillages.
The reality is that ( arguably ) a lot of these fatalities occur beacuse of a cocktail of unwanted road lubricants, excess speed / safety margin and many badly set up bikes that are in fact dangerous. You could sample 100 bikes and find over half of them with overtight rebound settings, always a cause of accidents on road and track.

[Winston001]

We didn't expect it.

[BMWST?]

Awesome. I think I just wet myself.

"Kiwi Biker: A haven for primal 1% ers ,esp spotty geeks, mildly depressed family men trying to escape from reality, and grumpy grandads in sheds since 2002!"

fixed

stoopid 1o chars

[Winston001]

Its easy to make your own tee shirts.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Clothing/Bo...-208431218.htm

Steve

You can buy 5 sheet packs cheaper from Warehouse Stationery.

[peasea]

Intersetingly a small group of us were discussing the mass media and the general public today....notice how both the MM and the GP look at what bikers are up to and rarely, if ever, the bikers look at them.

We do what we like doing, get on with it and enjoy it. I, and everyone I know, don't take the piss out of someone who wants to buy a BMW, spend thousands on their garden, jump out of a plane, whatever.

The GP, however, are always putting bikers under the microscope.

Why is that?