New WSBK Ohlins forks?

**johan** · 24th March 2009, 13:08

Does anyone know what Ohlins forks WSBK are using this year?

It looks like Rossi is also using them, but with magnesium break mounts

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoG...epang-test.jpg

**Robert Taylor** · 24th March 2009, 20:10

Originally Posted by johan

Does anyone know what Ohlins forks WSBK are using this year?

It looks like Rossi is also using them, but with magnesium break mounts

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoG...epang-test.jpg

All of the teams with budget will at least be running Ohlins FGR900. These are gas charged forks with external reservoirs and TTX20 internals i.e twin tube with 20mm pistons. Teams with less budget will run earlier production years, each year there are new improvements and technology, progress is relentless. Some of the big budget teams e.g Yamaha and Ducati may have special works stuff right out of the race department. They will pay the going rate for the equipment in the first place plus have a big inventory of spare forks, shocks, springs and other spares. Those who pay a service contract and have a full time Ohlins engineer seconded to them pay a contract fee of approx 100.000 euros per annum.
If you want a set of FGR900 it probably already too late as they have to be pre-ordered well in advance, approx 100 sets per annum made. $24399.90 NZ. Legal in NZ for Formula 3.

**AllanB** · 24th March 2009, 20:21

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

$24399.90 NZ.

Do you take credit card?, a set of those would be the shit on my Hornet

Actually if you consider that they are the absolute bees-knees of suspenders that's probably not bad.

**Mishy** · 24th March 2009, 22:30

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

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If you want a set of FGR900 it probably already too late as they have to be pre-ordered well in advance, approx 100 sets per annum made. $24399.90 NZ. Legal in NZ for Formula 3.

if i pay you a little more would you fit some little rubber boots and wires to them for me ?

**CHOPPA** · 25th March 2009, 17:29

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

All of the teams with budget will at least be running Ohlins FGR900. These are gas charged forks with external reservoirs and TTX20 internals i.e twin tube with 20mm pistons. Teams with less budget will run earlier production years, each year there are new improvements and technology, progress is relentless. Some of the big budget teams e.g Yamaha and Ducati may have special works stuff right out of the race department. They will pay the going rate for the equipment in the first place plus have a big inventory of spare forks, shocks, springs and other spares. Those who pay a service contract and have a full time Ohlins engineer seconded to them pay a contract fee of approx 100.000 euros per annum.
If you want a set of FGR900 it probably already too late as they have to be pre-ordered well in advance, approx 100 sets per annum made. $24399.90 NZ. Legal in NZ for Formula 3.

The forks in the pics dont look the normal gas charged ones with the extra res..?

**Robert Taylor** · 25th March 2009, 17:55

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

The forks in the pics dont look the normal gas charged ones with the extra res..?

Yes indeed and I will be asking Mats Larsson that exact same question, stay posted. What is clear is that they are not ''Production'' Ohlins forks. They are special forks built by the race department for their best / fastest customers. Everyone is a customer, no sponsorship. Progress / development is relentless and they are not burdened with people bleating about it!!!!

**Robert Taylor** · 25th March 2009, 17:56

Originally Posted by Mishy

if i pay you a little more would you fit some little rubber boots and wires to them for me ?

No problem, revise the price to $34990 incl. How many sets do you want?

**cowpoos** · 25th March 2009, 18:17

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Yes indeed and I will be asking Mats Larsson that exact same question, stay posted. What is clear is that they are not ''Production'' Ohlins forks. They are special forks built by the race department for their best / fastest customers. Everyone is a customer, no sponsorship. Progress / development is relentless and they are not burdened with people bleating about it!!!!

it appears the diameter of those forks is larger than normal...noticably!! like the 50mm wp forks of the late ninties noticable....

**Mishy** · 25th March 2009, 21:45

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

No problem, revise the price to $34990 incl. How many sets do you want?

That's over half the cost of a new 600 SP bike . . . . . . . . . . .

And they all say our racing is too expensive

I'm sure those rubber booties didn't cost me that much last time.

**Robert Taylor** · 25th March 2009, 22:45

Originally Posted by cowpoos

it appears the diameter of those forks is larger than normal...noticably!! like the 50mm wp forks of the late ninties noticable....

Ok, hot off the press. Fork tube diameter 48mm, up from 42mm on the works Yamahas since 18 months ago. Internal damping system 25mm with a through rod damper. System is called # TRVP25. Such dampers have absolutely no shaft displacement so dont have to have a large reservoir in the normal sense and it can be contained internally thereby reducing ( in that instance ) weight and complexity.

This operates on the same principle as Ohlins TTX40 through rod shock. Here in NZ 4 of these can be found on Carl Hansens all conquering TVR Tuscan Super GT racer. Also one can be found in the rear of the OZZY 450, so effectively peddled by Glen Skatchell.

Suzuki MotoGP also have these 48mm forks but with the olderTTX25mm displacement type damping.

Valentino gets the new stuff first, someone has to!

Johan, thanks for your question, wouldnt have thought of asking so soon.

**Racin Jason** · 26th March 2009, 08:54

I remember last year at france commentators saying that Haga was trying (for the first time) forks with electronic dampning controll that were adjusting themselves on the fly. Any truth to this? will we see more in the future?

**Cajun** · 26th March 2009, 09:06

Originally Posted by Racin Jason

I remember last year at france commentators saying that Haga was trying (for the first time) forks with electronic dampning controll that were adjusting themselves on the fly. Any truth to this? will we see more in the future?

i believe it was a rear shock not the front, yes the yamaha used them for 3-5 races at end of season. To some good results

SBK banned them over the off season, under 'cost cutting measures' heading.

**scrivy** · 26th March 2009, 09:11

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

If you want a set of FGR900 it probably already too late as they have to be pre-ordered well in advance, approx 100 sets per annum made. $24399.90 NZ. Legal in NZ for Formula 3.

Er... wha 'bout my sidecar??? my rubber bands are getting old now.....