Redundancy is a bitch, as are other things...

[DarkLord]

Cheers Dave -

That might be an idea, although somehow I doubt she will listen to us. I'll have a chat to my flatmates about it, see what they think. Is it true that if this does go to court she may have trouble renting out the property in the future?

The bond is with the tenancy tribunal at the moment, so the money's not going anywhere till this gets resolved.

[R6_kid:Me]

Ideal. So you call her and tell her that you don't want to go to court either and all you want is your bond back. Like, now. If she so much as flinches you say "ah well, never mind, I guess we'll have to go to court then" and end the conversation.

Oh! Also, did she ever lodge it with the DBH? Bond money does not belong to the landlord - she's probably pissed it away. Yah, she won't want to go to court. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

http://www.landlords.co.nz/read-arti...rticle_id=3015

Dave

If they go to court and win, won't they be awarded costs as well? That way she has to pay for her fuckup, and if it really does make it harder for her to rent the place out in the future then all for the better - people will hopefully get the idea that she's not as nice as she might seem.

[DarkLord]

I think we are going to have a quiet word with the current tenants ourselves and just give them a wee note of warning. If I have to come all the way back to Auckland for this I would hope there will be some kind of payout for my petrol money at least.

The previous tenants before us just upped and left without bothering to clean the place and let her keep the bond. She told us that when we first looked at the house - I wish we'd picked up on things then. Ah well, ya live and learn.

[Mom]

Is it true that if this does go to court she may have trouble renting out the property in the future?

NO, there is nothing to stop her being a landlord in the future,each case is dealt with and filed away.

If they go to court and win, won't they be awarded costs as well?

NO they wont get costs unless they have asked for them in the application.

If I have to come all the way back to Auckland for this I would hope there will be some kind of payout for my petrol money at least.

You can request the hearing takes place in Taupo mate You have the power, you might not suceed in getting that agreed but it is worth a try. You will need to put your request for costs to be awarded in the application you made to the Tribunal. Ring 0800 836 262 quote your file number and get them to add the request for reasonable costs. It is not unknown for costs to be awarded, good luck, whistle out if I can help.

[want-a-harley]

My 2 cents, do as much communication by email, then it's all logged. Any specific dates you remember times of conversations, write em down and log em.

[more_fasterer]

Been in the same situation myself, and it sounds like you're doing the right thing. Her name's not Luci is it?

[DarkLord]

We've been mainly communicating via email, so it's all logged. Nope, her name is not Luci. Glad to hear you think we're doing the right thing, though. I really hope this teaches her a lesson.

[Burtha]

Good re logging.

My hubby and I have been in a couple of situations were we have been in long term tenancy ie; 2-4 years, quiet, clean, ontime rent etc but when we came to leave the landlords became psyco money hungry, intrusive and insensitive.

I don't think they learn though because the "Its our property" mode kicks in and your rights become 0 and their rights become 100 in their peewee minds.
I found one of our landladies actually inside doing renovations unannounced when I came home from work. She soon got told where to go though and the purpose of why I was paying her rent.

Keep cool, as they aint all bad, but there are bad apples in every bunch. Well, they are more like right wankers actually, you'll just learn how to cover your bases ie; learn from experience. So the good ones still outweigh the bad ones.

Yay!

EDIT: have also had FAB landlords. One loved me so much they wanted to buy me a house to live in so I wouldn't move, and the other got upset when we found a house of our own because they didnt want us to leave and we still see them on occasion.

[RantyDave]

NO, there is nothing to stop her being a landlord in the future

NO they wont get costs unless they have asked for them in the application.

You can request the hearing takes place in Taupo mate

Listen to her. She is smarter than me.

Dave

[CookMySock]

You get a shit year now and then, and then ten good ones, so don't take it too much to heart. Chin up!

Use the hard lessons to toughen you up a bit, and make sore new decisions about what you want.. maybe your own house instead of being in everyone elses pockets.

Steve

[DarkLord]

Just heard today that the court hearing is on the 27th of this month at the North Shore District Court.

I'm hoping I don't have to go all the way up there, again. But if I have to then so be it.

[Max Preload]

Just heard today that the court hearing is on the 27th of this month at the North Shore District Court.

I'm hoping I don't have to go all the way up there, again. But if I have to then so be it.

You don't. Conference call.

[imdying]

That text message is not worth a tin of shit, legalistically speaking of course. Sorry mate, get your flat mate to sort this out. He should ring 0800 tenancy and take advice from the call centre on this one. I cant help by proxy.

Actually it does have some value. It's an adjudicator, not a judge, that handles these proceedings... they are conducted with considerably more 'realism' than pure court proceedings.

[Mom]

Actually it does have some value. It's an adjudicator, not a judge, that handles these proceedings... they are conducted with considerably more 'realism' than pure court proceedings.

I worked in property management for years and am well versed in Tribunal processes and know the Residential Tenancy Act pretty well. I have spent many, many hours in mediation and Tribunal. I have never had a fail in Tribunal. To be sucessful you must be organised and have really good records that are presented in a professional manner. Adjudicators are easily frustrated by cases where cases are presented in an adhoc manner.

I have offered to assist the OP with his tenancy issues both by PM and on this thread. I reassert my claim that the text message is worthless, a text saying the tribunal should not be long with the bond is a nothing unless it forms part of a whole picture and is presented to the Tribunal in a logical and meaningful way.

I wish him luck getting this sorted.

[DarkLord]

Surely the fact that the four of us were in the room at the time when she said the carpet was ok as it was so old anyway would count for something though?

And also the fact that she deliberately lied to them directly, saying we deliberately burned her brand new carpet out of malice etc would help them see through her? AND that she never showed up to the mediation because she didn't tell them her new address, and now wants another one and says it's not fair that she didn't get a chance with the first one??

I mean, she shouldn't stand a chance. She approved the house, and told us the bond was on it's way, and then changed her mind. I mean WTF?? How is that fair? And with this other jackass who apparently co-owns the house - we've never met this guy and never had any dealings with him until now. Surely any one with half a brain would be able to see through this and see who is in the wrong here.