Oil Oil everywhere and not a drop in my bike

[sil3nt]

While im here.....How much for Oil Filters? I rang up Hamilton Motorcycles (coz they do kawasaki) and they told me $17.50 or something in that region Surely they dont cost that much and i can get one cheaper?

I rang Supercheap who stuck me on hold so i gave up and Repco who didnt know wtf they were doing...not that i expect these places to have them i just thought i would ask

[Dealer]

2.007692ltrs actually.

So you used online converion too?

[Dealer]

Repco are useless with bikes, they dont even stock bike oil. Supercheap might have the filters, but just google a local bike shop.

[tri boy]

$17.50 is a fair price.
$20 range is industry standard. Cheap compared with engine rebuild work.
Use m/cycle specific oil, as anything else will cause clutch slip.
Bike are like small yacht's.
Money is constantly thrown at them.

[tri boy]

So you used online converion too?

Nah, my old engineers conversion book.
Be lost without it.

[sil3nt]

I put Castrol Power 1 GPS (although gold container and 10W - 40) in it. Cost me $50 bucks from Supercheap so it better be bloody good! Although it ain't much good sitting in the oil pan

[tri boy]

If the oil pan was reasonably clean, just decant it into another container for reuse.
Leave the last 100ml in the oil pan as will have any unwanted "bits" in it.
Recycle, the oil will be fine.

[sil3nt]

Sweet as! Thanks for all the help guys. Wasn't expecting so many replies so quickly. You lot are the best

The oil does look pretty darn clean to me so im sure it can be saved thanks again everyone!

[Dealer]

You can use Castrol active 4t (if they still do it), its a bit cheaper.
The GPS is more than suitable, that might be the 4t replacement.
You have to realise, you own a bike now. Everything is dearer.
Except fuel.

[sil3nt]

It says 4T on the bottle. I dont mind paying that much so long as it stops spitting it out all over my driveway.

[LBD]

If the oil pan was reasonably clean, just decant it into another container for reuse.
Leave the last 100ml in the oil pan as will have any unwanted "bits" in it.
Recycle, the oil will be fine.

Do not be so sure...she'll be right is not a long term solution in this case. Leaving the last 100ml will only seperate the large heavy bits that settled out in the time it was given, it does not remove particles in suspension or floating.

Sweet as! Thanks for all the help guys. Wasn't expecting so many replies so quickly. You lot are the best

The oil does look pretty darn clean to me so im sure it can be saved thanks again everyone!

76% of all wear in an oil compartment comes from particle contamination.

New oil is not clean, yesterday I ran 4 samples of new oil (bulk industrial mineral base) through the particle counter and came up with an ISO code with nice little numbers like 24/23/19 do describe how much dirt is in new oil...

Then you have a look at what these numbers mean and you find that in 1 ML (1cc) of new oil there is ...

24 = 80 000 to 160 000 particles greater than 4 micron

23 = 40 000 to 80 000 particles greater than 6 micron

19 = 2500 to 5000 particles greater than 14 micron

(A human hair is 80 micron and the smallest that can be seen with the naked eye is 40 micron)

Exposing oil to the atmosphere will add contaminants that cause wear....In an old tired bike I would not worry to much, but if you want to look after a machine always use clean new oil. If you want to be really fussy, filter new oil through a 4 micron filter before putting in your bike...(That is getting a little over the top for most).

[CookMySock]

Repco [...] dont even stock bike oil.

Uh, they do over here. I'm all for keeping our local bike shop in business though. We do everything we can to buy all our bike stuff through our bike shop. Some stuff is half the price elsewhere though, and that twists our arm up our back just a little too much. You will be mightily pissed of if your favourite bike shop goes under.

Steve

[sinfull]

I got truck loads of 2 trackday old castrol gps here if anyone has an old oil burner pot belly ! I'd tip it in my old cars but they deisels so thought better of it lol !

[MSTRS:Me]

If it was me, I'd start with the known.
Stick your bike on the centre stand.
Drain the contents of your crankcase, using bolt B.
Replace the filter, which is a paper cartridge type fitted internally, behind the plate held by bolt A.
Refill with a motorcycle specific oil to the amount of 1.9 litres.
Run the engine briefly, stop and leave to stand for a few minutes.
Check and adjust the oil level if necessary by using the upper guide in the oil inspection window. There should be a little clear glass above the oil level.
Now, monitor your oil use and check that airfilter box frequently until you are sure it's ok. If the airbox still gets oil in it...my first post stands.

[Max Preload]

Uh, they do over here. I'm all for keeping our local bike shop in business though. We do everything we can to buy all our bike stuff through our bike shop. Some stuff is half the price elsewhere though, and that twists our arm up our back just a little too much. You will be mightily pissed of if your favourite bike shop goes under.

If it bothers you so much, buy the stuff at the cheapest place and go and give the bike dealer $10 for doing nothing. You'll be saving (admittedly a little less than you could) and he'll be making money from you too.

As far as I'm concerned if they can't compete on price for tangible items like oil, they should cease selling them and focus on service (tui?). Nobody is owed a living.