NZ road racing in serious trouble

[cowpoos]

Taupo has also been used by AMCC, but the logistics of running a meeting there proved too expensive for an Auckland based club. .

VMCC do it...from wellington...so what AMCC excuse?? disorganised?? lazy??

and AMCC have to be the most pathetic excuse for a race series in NZ. they should be ashamed of what they achieve!

[malcy25]

VMCC do it...from wellington...so what AMCC excuse?? disorganised?? lazy??

and AMCC have to be the most pathetic excuse for a race series in NZ. they should be ashamed of what they achieve!

yawn...not like that subject hasn't been done to death with appropriate responses for the last few years.

I guess I'd want to escape Wellie for a weekend in Taupo regularly too if I lived there (and I have lived there... and I did escape)

[Clivoris]

Have some one from the club contact me mate, I may be able to help now that I am not a racer myself any more, and do have a lot of experience with this sport, and lots of passion for it, it may even be usefull towards a buisness marketing degree I have started

I say again give em something to see along with the quality racing that is there already ! A lunch time show maybe, don't have to be big to start with !
Tony ? You into some wheely practice ? Who else is into some stunt practice ? Won't take long for the word to get out and we all know what show offs riders are, ppl will be queing up to do some stunts, and in turn the spectators will hear of it and come (albeit with a morbid curiosity)
Would the commitee be into something like that for a vic round Clive ?
I for one would put a yellow vest on for i donno, crowd controll, carry an extinguisher, whatever ! So the race marshalls can have a break from their posts !

c = Who can make up some A frame signs like Phill suggested, Half a doz signs (i for one will find room for one in my van to drop at a strategic intersection)
ED, Chop ? Good chance to get LGs name up on the corner of the boards Guys !!!

This rocks.
Hey Shaun, Will be in touch mate. Any energy you have to put into promoting the Actrix Winter Series would be more than welcome. We have a few adhoc things on the boil at the moment so I will try and organise my thinking and e-mail you.
Bill, if you want to run with this idea and take responsibility for it I think it could be a goer. Like everything else it will need to go through the committee. Work on a bit of a plan that will give the committee confidence that it's reasonably controlled and safe. Stuff I'm thinking of is one bike at a time stunting. How many marshals required? Ensuring indemnities are signed. Fill your boots mate and find a sponsor who might provide a prize for best stunt. i'm guessing this is all weather permitting stuff, but maybe grudge sprints down the front straight might be the go at some meetings with stunts every second one? Lunch time track sessions for a limited number of road bikes at some meetings?
Like I said it will need to be discussed at committee tues 17th.
Clive

[sinfull]

This rocks.
Hey Shaun, Will be in touch mate. Any energy you have to put into promoting the Actrix Winter Series would be more than welcome. We have a few adhoc things on the boil at the moment so I will try and organise my thinking and e-mail you.
Bill, if you want to run with this idea and take responsibility for it I think it could be a goer. Like everything else it will need to go through the committee. Work on a bit of a plan that will give the committee confidence that it's reasonably controlled and safe. Stuff I'm thinking of is one bike at a time stunting. How many marshals required? Ensuring indemnities are signed. Fill your boots mate and find a sponsor who might provide a prize for best stunt. i'm guessing this is all weather permitting stuff, but maybe grudge sprints down the front straight might be the go at some meetings with stunts every second one? Lunch time track sessions for a limited number of road bikes at some meetings?
Like I said it will need to be discussed at committee tues 17th.
Clive

17th haha I just told Ed he's worse than my Mrs when it comes to "i want it now" !
Ok !
Fill ya boots ? Is that like shitin ya leathers ? It's working already !

[sinfull]

They are all connected. One leads to the other...to the other etc. Also, in my opinion, worrying about what started the cycle is far less important than thinking about how to break it.

Pissing matches !!!!!!! We could put a ring up under the stands aye ???

POSERS THE LOT OF YA !

Like Clive says in his post above BREAK IT ! Since then its turned into a pissing match ! Not what Shaun intended with the thread, not for the better of all who would want the sport to grow ! Or would yaall rather see this thread in PD after everybodies finished pissing as high as they can ?

Ya all got balls or ya wouldn't be racin, or ya wouldn't be readin this !
But No point having them balls if there's noone there to see just how BIG they are !
Spectators bring new blood to the sport yeah ?
How many racers out there have ppl they could have rung to come and watch them race (even if they're running mid field to last in most races) BUT DON"T HAVE THE BALLS TO CALL THEM AND INVITE THEM TO COME AND WATCH ?

I just said Ok to clives responce, Wow cool, but no idea ! But the hands up and i'll give it a crack !

Need help now as realistically my experience is in motivation !
IE: put me in a room full of ppl and after twenty minutes i'll have em rushing outside looking for eskimoes to sell them fridges to !
BUT
It'd be really cool if everyone were to brainstorm ideas to Break it ! rather than piss in pockets and put down one club or another !

I'm in the wellington region and a member of the vic club ! yeah ya prob never seen me at a series (i like to keep a low profile, pass the tui) Yeah i am older than most of ya ! Yeah ya prob are faster than me ! But My Balls are bigger and i can piss higher than all of ya ! Always will be that way, sorry !! Excited yet ?
Well then, put those fuckin sealskin jackets on and come up with some ideas to atract some eskimoes, cause there's some real COOL sleds to be seen blastin round in an upcoming series's ! Mines one of em !! I WANT PPL TO SEE ME !
DONT YOU ?

[scracha]

Some good suggestions flowing...BUT. Shaun's main idea of having a full time ROAD RACE promoter/co-ordinator is likely to be the only way most of these ideas will happen.

I'm sorry to say that I can't see this happening any time soon through MNZ but I'd love to be proven wrong.

My tuppenceworth suggestions below are based on the fact that most spectators these days view sporting events on their telly or computer. :-

A more co-ordinated website (yes, it'll cost money) with rider profiles, including their photos, a short bio, bike photos, link to their own website and most importantly, sponsors.

Task someone with putting together videos of the race action. This will mean shelling out for cameras (or perhaps co-ordinating the existing video footage a lot of riders have) and paying someone quite a few beer tokens to edit the video. Bung on youtube, embed on above webbysite. Flog DVD(s) at end of season (and during next season to spectators) . You never know, highlights may hit the telly screen. Excellent for riders and excellent for sponsors.

Bung riders photos and videos on a webbysite and I guarantee they'll instantly improve their appearance and spend a bit more time promoting their sponsor's logos.

Umm.........as usual VMCC will probably have to lead by example.

[cowpoos]

as usual VMCC will probably have to lead by example.

It is the most popular series in NZ...potetial is enormous if a few more bright people join in and help the already bright buggers currently taking the club in what seems to be a very good direction race wise for compeditors...

[Bronza]

someone was saying the car racing attracts the crowds, yes but half the spectators there, are there to see carnage and they usually do !
No one in bike racing wants carnage, no one ! So half the spectators may not show up cause there is a lack of crash flips or rolls !

LG
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Haven't you ever seen me racing??? 2 totalled gixsers in my garage says there is plenty of carnage!!

Love Kicking zebra

[suzuki21]

An independant promoter would be disastrous, it will come down to money making only. Sprint boats done similar with Promosports in the early nineties and they done nice things like only have meetings in Auckland because of the population, and they even done it in competion with other events run by volunteers.

[Shaun]

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NZ road racing in serious trouble

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PLAN made and Posted out in 2004,and look where we have gotten to already, perhaps I should have tried to do this 10 years ago.





Road racing coordinator/Promoter- This is a copy of a letter that I wrote and forwarded out to ALL registered Road Race License holders in 2004 the MNZ had a postal address for


I ONLY RECEIVED about 40 replies from over 150 letters!!!

Please take the time to read and respond. Your comments are extremely important and with out your feed back it makes it hard to make changes that will benefit our racing and enhance the future of our sport.

I am proposing that the motorcycle fraternity Employ our OWN full time promoter/coordinator, until all responses are returned and sifted through the full time job description is not possible to out line here but I will include what I would like this person to be doing.

Job Description

Co-ordination of all clubs for the race format, and information for riders, and communication with MNZ.
Promotional work with the media,series sponsors, importers,clubs,MNZ etc.
Group purchasing of race products making our purchase price “lower”
already giving us a return on our investment!

Who to employ

I suggest that we nominate 2 riders reps from each class and let this group go through all the resumes and make a choice.

How to pay this person

This is where I need you to all think long and hard about OUR racing and OUR sport and what it means to YOU?

I propose that all MNZ Road racing license holders invest $250-00 each .69 cents per day per year!!!!!

145 people x $250-00 = $ 36-250, I had a company that was prepared to invest $5000 as well- Total $ 41-250

$41-250 paid to a promoter as a base salary with an agreed percentage of additional funds collected by this person on OUR behalf.

This system will allow this person sell sell sell and make more income for them self, as well as promoting our sport professionaly and encouraging sponsors to invest there money in OUR sport

I realise this may seem to simple, but some of the best things in life are simple!!

90% of replies AGREED with it.


So how do we MAKE THIS happen?

The only way I can see racing going forward, is for the planning/coorination of it all coming into the 21st centenary and very very quickly
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WE LOST! Thanks for your work Paul S, but us the RIDERS did not want help ourselves it seems

[Shaun]

140 views, and NO comments, WOW amazing how the riders go quite when they are challenged back about lifting there own game up to the sky

[Sensei]

Sad to see dude , you are trying very hard to raise this sports profile etc .

[Robert Taylor]

140 views, and NO comments, WOW amazing how the riders go quite when they are challenged back about lifting there own game up to the sky

Just read it, if it can come to fruition we ( CKT ) would undertake put up $500 per annum and encourage other businesses directly involved with supporting the road racing industry to follow our lead. If there is an insistence that we join an affiliated club and thence pay a sub to MNZ then no problem.

[cowpoos]

140 views, and NO comments, WOW amazing how the riders go quite when they are challenged back about lifting there own game up to the sky

I think you have posted this a few times now shaun...that possibly why know one is repling??

[riffer]

I think you have posted this a few times now shaun...that possibly why know one is repling??

Well it's either that or that the majority of readers are people like me who are interesting in NZ Motorcycle Racing, but aren't active participants.

Or like me, they're all shit broke too.