To Fight the Hordes,Singing and Crying

[flynguzzi]

Some of us have the same complaint over here, involving the Mexican immigrants, mostly illegal, who get behind the wheel without license or insurance and have a taste for Bud Light. (our version of a domestic beer) Our government has no balls to stop it so we just watch out and do the best we can, trying to stay alive and enjoy riding....jb

[James Deuce]

Some of us have the same complaint over here, involving the Mexican immigrants, mostly illegal, who get behind the wheel without license or insurance and have a taste for Bud Light. (our version of a domestic beer) Our government has no balls to stop it so we just watch out and do the best we can, trying to stay alive and enjoy riding....jb

I would put money on those unlicensed Mexicans being better, more aware drivers than most of the population in New Zealand who drive.

[Jackrat]

Hitcher's third commandment: "Beware of cagers who wear hats!"

Hey I wear a hat,Errrrrr I also wear glasses and drive a 4x4,and listen to country music,Don't own a cell phone an I'm not Asia but I'm working on it.
You can look out for my ma inlaw but,she drives a Pajero,a nice red one
Johnnys not dead,he's just gone to pizza hut,,,,,,,,,,Work that out

[moko]

I would put money on those unlicensed Mexicans being better, more aware drivers than most of the population in New Zealand who drive.

So when I tell you that I found the standard of driving in N.Z. to be a a lot higher to what I`m used to you`ll get some idea of what we have to put up with,and I`ve lost count of the times dorks on bikes have nearly had me off,closest one was on my XT,some guy obviously in a hurry on a sportsbike so I pulled over to let him by only to have the idiot squeeze through the narrowing gap on the inside at god knows what speed!

[Kwaka-Kid]

Know what i reckon, we should get the police to (in all their spare time) Do an analysis of accidents and the nationality of drivers who cause them/exactly what sort of accident it is/was. I know this has been unofficially done and the guestimated figures are way in favour of motu, that say exactly what your seeing, unfortunatly even simpler tasks like not following too close (i actually thought euro van drivers were worst) seem a little harder, 6 car nose to tail on a wet day over the harbour bridge... all asians and all mates... ohhh wouldnt that suck to be them?

[James Deuce]

So when I tell you that I found the standard of driving in N.Z. to be a a lot higher to what I`m used to you`ll get some idea of what we have to put up with,and I`ve lost count of the times dorks on bikes have nearly had me off,closest one was on my XT,some guy obviously in a hurry on a sportsbike so I pulled over to let him by only to have the idiot squeeze through the narrowing gap on the inside at god knows what speed!

I'd say that it was a one off incident. I get car drivers trying to do that here.

[Jackrat]

Damn I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I look out for all these poor drivers,I sometimes see the odd fool here in there
but over all I don't find our car drivers all THAT bad.
I'm even starting to think maybe it's not the car drivers that are blind.
Even noticing it's the same people experiencing the same type of thing over and over.Strange that,,,,,VERY strange

[Motoracer]

Damn I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I look out for all these poor drivers,I sometimes see the odd fool here in there
but over all I don't find our car drivers all THAT bad.
I'm even starting to think maybe it's not the car drivers that are blind.
Even noticing it's the same people experiencing the same type of thing over and over.Strange that,,,,,VERY strange

I feel the same way as well.

[MikeL]

I'm even starting to think maybe it's not the car drivers that are blind.
Even noticing it's the same people experiencing the same type of thing over and over.Strange that,,,,,VERY strange

Yes, 'tis very strange indeed.

Of course, everyone's experience is unique.

And what we're used to seeing every day in Waiuku is not necessarily what we see in Epsom and Remuera.

Like KK, I'm intrigued by the unofficial police conclusions. But of course they could never be officially reported: that would be seen as provocative. It would be interesting to know the Insurance Council's unofficial statistics...

[Jackrat]

Hey I live in Waiuku but I don't speak with a local accent,And I kind'a doubt there is a great difference between Papakura-Howick than any other part of
Auckland.As to the unoffical stat's,,,Well it's really a no brainer but your not supposed to say it aye!!
Just NEVER trust em' an no problem

[Lou Girardin]

Motu, at least he's not as bad as the Irish mechanic. When asked to check if the indicators were going; he said, yes they are, no they're not, yes they are, no they're not.
At the start of World War 2, the allies thought that the Japs were no threat. After all, they all wear glasses. They can't see to shoot.
Famous last words.
Lou

[Motu]

I'm not trying to find an excuse to blame Asian drivers,but more to see if there was an actual physical reason for their poor performance on our roads.And yes Jackrat,I'm aware that there are other drivers just as bad and that the bottom line is to be one step ahead ourselves.I personaly know Chinese who have very good vision and are very much up to pace on our roads - so maybe it is a cultural thing,we don't know how they were brought up in their own country.
But the Russians took to driving like ducks to water,they had never owned cars, maybe their society was more mechanicaly orientated.No one has mentioned Indians yet,they are just as bad as the Chinese,but some are excelent drivers - we don't know there personal history.

I sit at my desk every day looking out at a very,very busy intersection - anyone who wants to dispute who is driving on our roads and who has difficulty coping is welcome to bring down a chair and spend a day watching - you will hear lots of horns,tyre smoke and at least 3 contacts....before lunch.

[Jackrat]

The Japs all wearing glasses,Yep heard that one.
I get that same crap thrown at me some times,But what folks don't seem to get is that wearing glasses gives the wearer 20/20 eye sight.Take em' off but
an ya' better watch out,can't see past the end of me nose.
Is there a phisical reason for poor Asian driving skills???.
Coz' man, they's to short see,give em' all cushions ta' sit on.Oh hang on I'm no giant an half me mates ain't that huge either,,,,errrrrrr must be summit' else.Maybe it's cause they are so smart,after all most smart people are dumb fucks in the real world,You know build a nuclear bomb but can't tye their laces.Yeah that must be it,,After all I was in Manuku a while back an this real classic was coming around the round about toward me,,little sports car,dangly lantan thing hanging off the rear veiw mirror ,twenty some thing male in a white shirt,He was indercating to turn off but the body language said other wise.I just watched an sure enough he did'nt turn off, just kept coming all the way round an went back the way he'd come from.I hit the horn as he went past an he looked at every thing but me.Fucker had a glazed
look on his face that made it pretty plain to me we were in two different worlds,I'm busy driving an he's buzy planing his countrys world take over useing all the knowlage gained in this dumb fucker honkys school systems.
An then maybe it's summit' else again,buggered if I know.My grand dad had a solution but we're nice now days an don't do that shit no more,,

[Motoracer]

I think Motu is right about the cultural thing in more ways than one. I don't really know how to explain why I think it is that. I might have a sit down and think about it actually and maybe post something if I find the appropriate answer.

[Motu]

I was just standing out by the door - and crash!!!!! ...car and truck collide,the poor chinese girl is looking around all dazed wondering what happened.Like I said,happens all day long around here.

I gotta come clean on ''my'' intersection - 90% of the accidents involve a truck or bus,and 50% of the drivers in this area appear to be Asian,so the odds are stacked against them.The island is too tight for the trucks and buses to get around,so they move over into the left lane as they make their turn,cleaning up any car on the inside.I aportion 50/50 blame here - the cars shouldn't come down the inside,but it's still the truck or bus drivers responsability to check the inside before making the turn,although a B trains cab will be halfway around the island before the trailer clears any cars.They need to move over and block both lanes well before thay get to the intersection - but even that doesn't work - one day we heard a huge crash,we looked out and saw that a pickup had tried to squeeze between a truck and a pole,ripped the tray clean off the pickup,we lifted the tray back on and I welded it into place.

Who designed this magic roundabout - well he's quite famous in this area,he built it,has parks and houses named after himself.He went out one day with some concrete blocks and ''made'' a traffic island....done,