Labour is rooted...

**Skyryder** · 24th September 2006, 00:50

Originally Posted by Jamezo

Perhaps I am being cynical, but going on the record about the 'incestousness' (tragically apt turn of phrase) of right-wing politics and big business would seem to break some unspoken taboo on the subject within acceptable NZ political discourse.

Smearing the private lives of private citizens? Why Not? Endless artificial scandal? For sure! Daring to acknowledge the relationships that hold sway over our political system? GODS NO! That's 'radical politics'!

Labour will not go that far. It is still a capitalist party, after all.

Interesting analysis.

Finn claims to be aware of some political smut. Mind you with all the shit flying about 'anybody' could come up with that prediction and promote themselves as being party to inside information. Pesonally I think he's trying to impress all here in this reguard as well as himself.

So Finn make a prediction. Or at least give a hint, a name, an offence etc. Or is the playing you do only with yourself??

Skyryder

**paturoa** · 24th September 2006, 09:10

hope this isnt a repost but it is real funny! (and 100% true !)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJa0ltsx_xw

**inlinefour** · 24th September 2006, 09:15

Originally Posted by Magua

Fuck labour, fuck national.

What other party can my vote go to without being wasted?

none IMO, they are all equally worthless...

**Jantar** · 24th September 2006, 09:46

Originally Posted by Magua

Fuck labour, fuck national.

What other party can my vote go to without being wasted?

Now that is the one big advantage of MMP, no vote is wasted. Every vote for a minor party reduces the proportion of votes for the major parties, and hence help to reduce the number of seats that they will get. The safest option is to vote for a party that will get at least a single electrate seat, but would not get over the 5% threshold. Every vote for such a party will help increase its number of MPs and reduce the government's majority. For right wing voters that would be ACT, for left wing voters either United or the Maori Party.

**Brett** · 24th September 2006, 10:20

Down with Helen, and may a thousand seagulls defecate upon her manly brow.
FINN - this talk of more self-destruction of labour talk is very titillating

**Skyryder** · 24th September 2006, 15:27

Originally Posted by Jantar

Every vote for such a party will help increase its number of MPs and reduce the government's majority. For right wing voters that would be ACT, for left wing voters either United or the Maori Party.

United left wing??

The Maori Party have not ruled out a coalition with National.

The only party that will have no 'truck' with National is Jim Anderton's Progressive Party

Skyryder

**Timber020** · 24th September 2006, 17:02

Originally Posted by Finn

Howard, like most hard working kiwi's.

I got a George Bush doll for xmas, you pull a string and he says "the world is better off with saddam." "They hate freedom and have WMD." "theres to many black folk anyhow, lets see if they can swim." Its great and quite lifelike. It even wets itself, sniffs coke and hides if you say "vietnam."
It came free with both a Tony Blair and John Howard doll as well, but so far I havent been able to get the other two out of his ass to see if they say anything for themselves.

Im sick of both parties, but brash is so far up on the list of dumbass powerhungry arseholes, Id rather have WINJA as leader than see that prat up there. Aus is a great place if your chasing the dollar, but its fucked in so many ways im never going back, unless I can save up THAT many bullets.
But im sure you will do much better financially there finn, and if thats whats important and NZ isnt working out for you, why not?

**Indoo** · 24th September 2006, 17:32

Originally Posted by Timber020

Im sick of both parties, but brash is so far up on the list of dumbass powerhungry arseholes, Id rather have WINJA as leader than see that prat up there. Aus is a great place if your chasing the dollar, but its fucked in so many ways im never going back, unless I can save up THAT many bullets.
But im sure you will do much better financially there finn, and if thats whats important and NZ isnt working out for you, why not?

If it was just about finances I think you might find that Finn would be raving about Rodney Hides merits.

I think Don Brash is a retard as well in a political sense, but at the moment hes just not as repulsive and arrogant as Clark. Her absolute blatant lieing about the speeding motorcade, then even worse the condescending whip around to pay off the cops she sacrificed kinda did it for me. Not to mention the comments she made after the Waitara affair and the taxpayers compulsory donation to her election campaign just shows the sheer arrogance.

We haven't had a decent or deserving leader since Lange. Hopefully John Keys or Winja will change that.

**Finn** · 25th September 2006, 16:23

Another blow to Labour... I'm really enjoying this. These rumours may not need to come out and this is with Brash at the helm. Wow.

I know this may be an impossibility, but I think Helen is going to get uglier.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10402871

**ManDownUnder** · 25th September 2006, 16:26

How much for a private eye?

I'll put $100, and if we get a decent support base I say we tail the lot of them then make the findings public, without reservation or interpretation - just plop them out there on the web.

I reckon we should all know what's going on

**SPman** · 25th September 2006, 16:53

Originally Posted by Jantar

The safest option is to vote for a party that will get at least a single electrate seat, but would not get over the 5% threshold. Every vote for such a party will help increase its number of MPs and reduce the government's majority. For right wing voters that would be ACT, for left wing voters either United or the Maori Party.

Im glad to see my Maori party vote had some effect........

**Indiana_Jones** · 25th September 2006, 17:11

-Indy

**Finn** · 25th September 2006, 17:48

Originally Posted by SPman

Im glad to see my Maori party vote had some effect........

Great. You voted for the maori tea party and then left NZ. Thanks a lot mate.

However, I too voted for the maori party but only cause I want free stuff with no accountability and I certainly don't want to work for it.

**Skyryder** · 25th September 2006, 18:45

Originally Posted by Finn

Another blow to Labour... I'm really enjoying this. These rumours may not need to come out and this is with Brash at the helm. Wow.

I know this may be an impossibility, but I think Helen is going to get uglier.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10402871

I see on the news tonight Brash has disassociated the National party from the xclusive Bretheren.

Clark 1
Brash 0

With Labout

(that's not a typo just another playon words)

down 5 points in the polls I will concede it was a hollow victory.

Skyryder