Were The Doors, the first punk band?

**Skyryder** · 4th October 2006, 16:47

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Some of them couldn't actually play when the TV studio put the band together. They were actors who learnt to play for the gig is wot I read.

Not true. They were all musicians. That myth has evolved from the fact that from the first they were actors in the TV show of the same name and were recuited primarily for that role. Later they both played and sang. Mike Nesbeth was the only talented muso among them. The other three were all middling. I read somewhere but do not know how true this is that the TV show was formatted from A Hard Days Night. The monkees were priamarly created to emulate the zany Beatle thing. Sort of failed a bit as they became a hit in their own right.

Skyryder

**Big Dave** · 4th October 2006, 16:47

Originally Posted by Jim2

Wow. Existentialism on a motorcycle forum.

I yam what I yam, aha?

**Big Dave** · 4th October 2006, 16:50

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Not true. They were all musicians. That myth has evolved from the fact that from the first they were actors in the TV show of the same name and were recuited primarily for that role. Later they both played and sang. Mike Nesbeth was the only talented muso among them. The other three were all middling. I read somewhere but do not know how true this is that the TV show was formatted from A Hard Days Night. The monkees were priamarly created to emulate the zany Beatle thing. Sort of failed a bit as they became a hit in their own right.

Skyryder

I can clearly remember watching Mickey Dolenz stick his head out a barrel on the opening credits of 'Circus Boy'.
And reading the people mag story of the band as it 'twer 'appenin'!

Also Monkey-wise - the tune 'Goin' Down' is somewhat rare but one of the great Jazz-rock fusion songs of all time.

**MattRSK** · 4th October 2006, 16:51

Originally Posted by hXc

I have to share my love for you. Matt. Sorry bud

Should I be worried?

**Motu** · 4th October 2006, 17:01

Originally Posted by maha man

I just thought they were scared shitless of his 'breast' sized black cheek's when he blew...

You're thinking of Dizzy - the angled trumpet and balloon cheeks,Satchmo was smarter than that.People also think Louis Armstrong couldn't sing,but they are only listening to the gravely voice,the guy could sing as well as he could play the trumpet.Arguably the most influencial musician in recorded history.....argue on.....

**Swoop** · 4th October 2006, 17:02

Originally Posted by Motu

if it wasn't for Satchmo....or scat.

Ewwww.....

**MattRSK** · 4th October 2006, 17:12

Originally Posted by Motu

Arguably the most influencial musician in recorded history.....argue on.....

Eddie Vedder

**James Deuce** · 4th October 2006, 17:14

Matt, Matt, Matt.

Bahahahahahahahaaaa

**MattRSK** · 4th October 2006, 17:23

Originally Posted by Jim2

Matt, Matt, Matt.

Bahahahahahahahaaaa

When Im as old as you, I will be telling the kiddies that Eddie Vedder was Arguably the most influencial musician in recorded history. And if they disagree, they get the bash. Simple.

**dawnrazor** · 4th October 2006, 17:42

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I yam what I yam, aha?

so your a chinese potatoe then, ahso, ya ken?

**Big Dave** · 4th October 2006, 17:43

Originally Posted by Motu

Arguably the most influencial musician in recorded history.....argue on.....

Recorded History I'd still go:
Beethoven.
Mozart.

Recording History:
John Lennon + 3
Elvis
Chuck Berry.

**Big Dave** · 4th October 2006, 17:48

Originally Posted by dawnrazor

so your a chinese potatoe then, ahso, ya ken?

eye - with a thick skin. chip off the old turnip.

**Skyryder** · 4th October 2006, 20:01

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Not true. They were all musicians. That myth has evolved from the fact that from the first they were actors in the TV show of the same name and were recuited primarily for that role. Later they both played and sang. Mike Nesbeth was the only talented muso among them. The other three were all middling. I read somewhere but do not know how true this is that the TV show was formatted from A Hard Days Night. The monkees were priamarly created to emulate the zany Beatle thing. Sort of failed a bit as they became a hit in their own right.Skyryder

This from Wikipedia and might add someweight to the myth that the Monkeeswere not musicians. I've itallicised the relevent sentance.

While the Monkees did succeed in ousting supervisor Don Kirshner (with Nesmith punching a hole in a wall, to make a point with Kirshner and attorney Herb Moelis), and took control of their records and song choices, sales dipped. The band never overcame the credibility problems they faced when word got out (at Nesmith's instigation, calling the band's first non-studio press conference, where he called More of The Monkees "probably the worst record in the history of the world") that they had not played on their first records.

Skyryder