When will they learn?

[doc]

They would have been legends if they pulled it off tho. Friends still talk about me on my Norton starting at the railway station lights on Moorhouse Ave Christchurch and hitting the ton two up towards Hagley. I must have resisted the bleach in the gene pool. I ride like a nana now tho. Ooops gotta go Santa's been.

[chanceyy]

.no doubt many of the respondees wont get it but hey........when you grow up you will understand.........when you get up in the morning go stand in front of a mirror naked........you will realise that none of us are perfect.......

Quite right, the driver has paid the ultimate price along with his two companions, sure he had brushes with the law .. I just hope that some of the posters here who have kids who are bringing them up in a loving environment can hack the criticism when their kids may go off the rails & others say they are the scum of the earth blah blah blah ....The three boys were someone children, brothers etc & they were loved in some context ... it is terribly sad that the day before xmas they are all dead .. those who attended the scene, those police who had to deliver the bad news, the families .. for them this xmas will not be full of cheer ..... THAT IS SAD .....

the boys were young (the two passengers were older) however it does not mean that they may not have become something in their life ..

how quickly we judge someone, thankfully my dad taught me to never judge a book by its cover cause sometimes the best read is the one, who is not sparkly & clean .. but rough around the edges, whose exterior may be all bluster, stop, chat for a few minutes & look inside & what do you see ?? then you will form your own impression & go from there .... wise man my dad ..

how many of us here .. do we look at the exterior & judge someone, do we not say hi spend a few minutes chatting with someone & see further than what is presented to us, or do we diminsh someone just cause of the way they appear, or from others biased opinions?

how do we know that the young child that he has fathered, will become their father in 16 odd yrs ... we are condeming a child that is not yet born ... I certainly hope that that child recieves all the love, & attention & education to become something in life, regardless of the mistakes that it may make during their life ... what ever that may be.

[James Deuce]

"They" won't ever learn until we realise "they" are "us".

As Doc says they'd be legends like the runners on KB, IF they'd pulled it off.

[Crasherfromwayback]

however undisputed is speed, alcohol being passed around, (still to be determined if the driver was under the influence), young & already had brushes with the law that night and previously for driving offences ... can not remember if they said he was unlicenced or on restricted .. however they were going to impound his car before he drove off at speed & they didn't pursue him

he had been out celebrating at a birthday party

he has now killed two freinds along with himself .. & families & those who have responded to the accident are the ones that have to deal with this day before xmas ...

It's an unfortunate thing that most males simply cannot grasp the true meaning of 'consequence' until well into their 30's. A lot of the young males killing themselves and others with them are from good homes (yeah I know a lot of them are from cesspits too) and still they do it. I see no reason why on fucking earth motorcyclists are restricted to 250's when they start out (and I'm not agaist that don't get me wrong) yet young pimply faced boys can buy cheap turbo powered cars capable of speeds their brain can't even function at.

Time they had a good look at several things that in my opinion need to be changed REAL soon.

[trumpy]

...that girls are raped,
that two boys knife a third
were axioms to him who'd never heard
of any world where promises were kept
or one could weep because another wept.....

What the world looks like depends on where you are standing at the time.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

What the world looks like depends on where you are standing at the time.....

And on how good your eyesight is.
It's hard to see the whole picture when you have blinkers on, and too many people use them.

[Hitcher]

when will they learn .... the families xmases will never be the same again ...

"They" will never learn. They're dead. I was going to say something about brain-dead hoodie losers, but the Spirit of Christmas held me back.

[sunhuntin]

To the two who quoted my last post...........you must have lived very sheltered lives............as i said the guy fucked up and payed the ultimate price...as did his mates...........they could have gone on to be anything they chose to be and as you get older hopefully you will learn that one stupid action doesnt condemn you for the rest of your life..........nobody can blame the parents as i would hazard a guess that nobody on here knows there parents........even kids with great parents make mistakes.........very easy to comment when sitting behind a computer screen........to sit behind one and tell people your glad these kids died seems somewhat ignorant to me........fwiw i to am glad they didnt take anyone else out as well.....................

my life wasnt sheltered...anything but. but i was brought up with respect, and rules, and i knew better than to cross them. when i was about 6, mum told both of us never to start smoking. brother did, but i wont, cos i know what mum and dad are like, and id likely get my ears boxed.
and im far from perfect....im overweight, considered a dyke, covered in stretch marks and scar tissue, tattooed, ride a motorbike. im about as imperfect one could get. but, my driving record is pretty good. sure...i do push the speed when i can, but id never run from the cops or anything that stupid. and if i did, i would think i deserved to die.

as for his passengers, they were 18 and 19...well old enough to decide to get into his car...i doubt he was holding a gun to their heads, just as the cops werent holding one to his. the speed and lack of lights was his own choice, and at 16 he was old enough to consider the consequences. had they have lived, i dont doubt they would have done the same thing later down the track.

however...the way kids are these days, theres no such thing as consequences. schools these days cant even expell kids, cos they have to find them another school first. parents cant discipline cos they end up like an earlier post said...in jail.

[trumpy]

And on how good your eyesight is.
It's hard to see the whole picture when you have blinkers on, and too many people use them.

True enough. There are two important words in everyone's vocabulary (whether they know it or not)...."I Choose"...... and all three of these guys could have chosen a different outcome. Problem is that choices are not made in a vacuum and yes, you can also choose to remove the blinkers but some people's life experiences (and to a certain degree genetic inheritance) may preclude that as an option....you have to know you have blinkers on to remove them.

[Crasherfromwayback]

True enough. There are two important words in everyone's vocabulary (whether they know it or not)...."I Choose"...... and all three of these guys could have chosen a different outcome. Problem is that choices are not made in a vacuum and yes, you can also choose to remove the blinkers but some people's life experiences (and to a certain degree genetic inheritance) may preclude that as an option....you have to know you have blinkers on to remove them.

I'm with you 100% there.

[Highlander]

Sad, to me justifies raising age limit.............I know there are sensible 16 year olds but perhaps raising age may reduce this type of thing....but I guess it ain't that simple.

Maybe they should restrict young i.e. under 17 'Ristricted' drivers to daylight hours only, rather than 10pm which would vary according to time of year but would make sense with winter having less daylight hours etc.

Was driving well outside the conditions of his licence anyway, do you really see changing those conditions making any difference?

Would only make a differnce to those who observe the rules don't you think?

[cynna]

well i wont be losing any sleep. another fucking idiot off the road

[scracha]

To the two who quoted my last post...........you must have lived very sheltered lives.....

Fuck yeah, central Scotland is surely the Monte Carlo of the UK. I'm so glad I'm not from "da hood" that is New Zealand. Life is soooo difficult for kiwi kids. Now where did I leave my bow tie.

......people your glad these kids died seems somewhat ignorant to me.........

I never said that did I?

[bull]

Bad choices in life - they paid the ultimate price.

As a father of three young boys ill do all i can to equip them with good decision making skills, as they grow older im teaching them safe from unsafe and right from wrong, theyll still make some bad choices but its how we help them deal with the consequences that makes the difference. Alot of responsibility is put on parents and they need to step up and meet it head on, no excuses if you need help get it otherwise its the kids who suffer.
my 2c.

[Patrick]

I wonder who provided the transcript to the media then?

Same transcript... different "interpretation"...

Half a kilometre away sounds boring... lets make it read "they were right up their arse..." Now THERE is a story....