Graeme William Burton in custody

[spudchucka]

Sure he did. All THREE cops feared for their lives.

One of them I know quite well and they are still dealing with the shit stain Wallace left on their life.

Only one cop fired a shot, whats your point regarding the other two?

[candor]

Murder - most bargain it down to m/s don't they? Cut to the chase and just shoot the parole board. Truth in sentencing what is so hard about that. I'm not impressed my mums killer, a 4x dui offender on P / pot / benzos and opiates got 2 yrs which means automatic release after a third.

And that the parole board wrote to us 3 mths later asking if we'd mind if he was released for xmas (before the 1/3rd) after just 4 months odd - on home detention. They said he was high risk for re-offending but that it was not a serious crime tho tragically it had been offending perchance "associated with a death". Scusey - HE KILLED, it did not just happen coincidentally.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOOT THEM. SHOOT THEM SHOOT THEM SHOOT THEM SHOOT THEM pleeeeeese

Cases like this get headlines cos of the drama but repeat DUI offenders do almost no time and cause numerous repeat preventable homicides as a result. Only its not counted. No connection between intent to drive impaired and violent consequences in parole boards mind, they are EVIL. A 12x repeat dui offende given license back other day.

I hope this latest F up atop of the still proceeding prosecution or civil case re RSA prompts a sacking of these incompetents and also - the govt should get its Ass kicked out. END OF RANT. And did I say SHOOT THEM. Aaaaaal of them. It would be for the best.

[candor]

They know their decisions directly endanger the public so they should be held accountable. If a doctor scews up they face serious repercusions and public naming & shaming.
This case sounds like another example of the Parole Board aiding and abetting a known criminal. I wish the Police could lay charges against these dickheads who decided he was just fine and dandy and deserved to be let loose on us.
EDit- now I see RT527 just beat me to it above

Well said. I'm divided as to whether they are complete bleeding heart freaks with no brains or as to whether they are like the people that helped process Jews in Nazi days (diffusion of responsibility - "I'm just a link in the system and not responsible) or whether some of them are sadistic psychopaths mad on power who get gratuitious enjoyment from wreaking havoc. Whatever the case each member needs its head examined for accessorising.

[Steam]

I knew a guy at highschool named Graeme Burton. (not related.) I didn't like him, bet he's spewing now! haha!

[doc]

I got an Idea....The Parole Board people should be Held responsible for anyone they let go early..Sought of like a Bond...If the parolee gets let out early and Fucks up then any costs associated with his re-offending or Re-Capture should be placed squarely on the shoulders of those who let him/her out....

Bet we wouldnt see very many let out then???!!!.

This guys re-offending would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Police man hours,ambulance(victims), costs of hospital for victims,therapy, funeral for deceased, it goes on.

If he sees the light of day again someone should pay.

Accountablity don't start me on this.

Parole board covering cost of legal aid if they are wrong

Politicians for lowering the drinking age

whatever fuckwit party that is responsible for the PC bullshit

Lawyers for accepting money for lost cause rights

The Greens right idea about the planet but leave social engineering out of it

Arm the fuckin police ( Gives them more respect when they pull you over, maybe pre Christmas three boy racers might still be alive.

Hey we can all be hypocrites afterwards.

[James Deuce]

Accountablity don't start me on this.

Politicians for lowering the drinking age

whatever fuckwit party that is responsible for the PC bullshit

Before making sweeping statements like that always remember we get what we vote for.

[doc]

Before making sweeping statements like that always remember we get what we vote for.

I know I know, but they are only our friends from the period the election is anounced to the day of the result. People still believe Saddam (I'm hoping he really did have a double then we can do it again)

[Lou Girardin]

One of them I know quite well and they are still dealing with the shit stain Wallace left on their life.

Only one cop fired a shot, whats your point regarding the other two?

My point is, why could three cops not subdue one man?
But let's not rehash this all over again.

[doc]

My point is, why could three cops not subdue one man?
But let's not rehash this all over again.

Probably because of OSH

[sAsLEX]

Before making sweeping statements like that always remember we get what we vote for.

No we get what the majority vote for.

[Toaster]

Stalin murdering 15 million people is surely a greater crime than (for instance) The Dover raping one goat .

I thought the goat gave wanted it baaaaad?

[oldrider]

You can go to their site here http://www.paroleboard.govt.nz/nzpb/index.htmland give em your thoughts on this subject if you wish. I have..

Thank you for posting that Bruce, I was wondering where to go to find out something about this parole board business.

I notice there is a whole lot of information about what they can do but absolutely nothing about accountability for their decisions!

All care and no responsibility, it seems the adage "That what gets measured gets done" doesn't apply to these people!

Some one on here asked me if I had statistics to back up my statement in a previous post, that they (the parole board) seem to get it wrong more often than they get it right, well you don't usually have statistics when you suggest that it "seems" to be so!

I was looking for some statistical info from their site but it doesn't look as if they publish those sorts of measures on there. Correct me if I am wrong.

I will do as you have done and at least E-mail them for a start. Cheers John.

[Toaster]

My point is, why could three cops not subdue one man?
But let's not rehash this all over again.

Lou, dude..... to be fair on the cops, none of us know the facts and weren't there. I have heard that he presented a firearm at police.... that is plenty reason to shoot him on the basis you believe yours/anothers life is in imminent danger. Or maybe you'd rather cops waited to find out if he mean't business and let him fire at them first just to be sure he wasn't just kidding around?

If you can subdue an armed man without using a firearm against another firearm, you be sure to let the police know how they should do their job properly dude.

[James Deuce]

No we get what the majority vote for.

No, we don't.

We do NOT know how to use MMP. It isn't a majority system at all. We continually manage to avoid anything like strategic voting, because that would take a bit of political nouse and organisation, and maybe voting for a party you don't like and a local candidate you do.

We get what we get because a good bunch of the voters waste the two votes they have.

[sAsLEX]

My point is, why could three cops not subdue one man?
But let's not rehash this all over again.

You ever gone up against a P'd (or whatever he was likely to be on) person? Or even a mental? Those of not sound mind can often be immensely strong and impossible for a few people to hold down.

There was footage on the news once of a cop absolutely putting his full force, not a small chap either, into swinging his Asp baton at a Mongrel Mob dudes back and the guy was carrying on like nothing was happening.


If they had had a Tazer?