Microsoft urges Vista users to remove ALL non-MS software for a better experience

[davereid]

I still run windoze at work, as my invoicing program is a windows application. But I'm using LINUX, the Ubuntu flavour at home, and its vastly superior to Bills product. It'll be a hard ask to move me to Vista !

[Brian d marge]

I still run windoze at work, as my invoicing program is a windows application. But I'm using LINUX, the Ubuntu flavour at home, and its vastly superior to Bills product. It'll be a hard ask to move me to Vista !

So agreed with ...if it wasnt for acad and a better skype ... I would have windowz installed

Just thinking this morning on how little problems I do have with Ubuntu

Much prefer it

oh and its Freeeeeeeee


Stephen

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And if someone buys a Vista PC and has a problem, they're going to blame Windows."

Yes that is true , because its doesnt work ...

[mstriumph]

On the contrary, I believe our lives would be a whole lot better without MS at all.

but every time i look at the blue sky and fluffy white clouds i'll think of them .....


oh, sorry, that was the point i suppose .......

[John Banks]

Microsoft have a point. All this bullcrap that comes with new PCs will be causing problems - a badly written piece of software can still bugger everything up from memory usage alone, no matter the operating system.
Of course, Microsoft actively encouraging terrible software development means they can shoulder the blame, too.

[jrandom]

Microsoft actively encouraging terrible software development...

Please back that statement up by describing how they've encouraged terrible software development.

[Hillbilly]

Direct X - give me OpenGL anytime!

[limbimtimwim]

Please back that statement up by describing how they've encouraged terrible software development.

Visual Basic.

[jrandom]

Visual Basic.

I concede your point.

[xwhatsit]

Another 'buntu user here -- if I were to remove all non-MS software I'd have nothing .

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment here, though, sure, VB has been a terrible scourge and has blighted much of the software development landscape; but BASIC as language has been doing that since the late 70s and 80s when it was included on all the home computers by default, and taught in schools. If we were all taught C from an early age, there would be a lot more quality stuff out there.

Also, modern versions of Visual Studio (nevermind the language) are actually great IDEs -- although my environment of choice is still gcc+vi.

Edit: A favourite of mine, from a /. sig: `Visual Basic, like cheap beer, and Americas Funniest Home videos is an enabling technology for stupid people.'

[Bonez]

Another 'buntu user here -- if I were to remove all non-MS software I'd have nothing .

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment here, though, sure, VB has been a terrible scourge and has blighted much of the software development landscape; but BASIC as language has been doing that since the late 70s and 80s '

Yeah MS gave there variant away then proceeded to try and force developers/users to pay for it. Least we forget............................

Some things never change. Same shit different OS.

[Pathos]

Many major suppliers gunk up prebuilt machines with craplets but at the end of the day customers will accept it for lower prices and it will continue as long as they do.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070111-8598.html

[Coyote]

Visual Basic?

[limbimtimwim]

Visual Basic?

I think it is called VB.NET now.

It was not like BASIC at all. Not that I knew basic. I did some in a crappy paper at uni once. You clicked on things a lot. And you wrote 'dim' or something to define variables.

Actually, I suspect you didn't have to define variables. I remember being frustrated by it.

[xwhatsit]

I think it is called VB.NET now.

It was not like BASIC at all. Not that I knew basic. I did some in a crappy paper at uni once. You clicked on things a lot. And you wrote 'dim' or something to define variables.

Actually, I suspect you didn't have to define variables. I remember being frustrated by it.

Compared to the BASIC I knew from C64s and the like, it was not all that different. The major differences was that it was made procedural, and a modicum of object-orientation was tacked on. In short, it was a dog -- it took a simplistic teaching language (BASIC), and tried to make it into something more serious -- but still tried to make it easy to use (hence the `Visual' bit, with the clicky-draggy GUI bits). I started off in assembly, briefly fooled around with C, before being introduced to this VB shite at school and just about threw up. Now I'm at uni and am being fed Java and am reacting in a similar manner -- although Java is nowhere near as bad, I just prefer barebones C. I dislike OOP, for some reason, even in C++ form.

But yeah, VB is now VB.NET, and is really just a different way of writing C#. In fact, both C# and VB.NET both get converted into some kind of intermediate language before being converted into bytecode (or something like that, I forget). VB.NET is apparently almost unrecogniseable. Both VB and VB.NET appear to be the usual sad outcome of design-by-committee that seems to be so prevalent in large organisations such as Microsoft (although they're particularly susceptible to it).

[The_Dover]

oooh, geek snobbery.

I prefer it when you cunts just make programs that work and stop whining about about the languages you use to make them.

You don't hear engineers whining when a bridge collapses saying "i much preferred it when we made them out of iron, just like the old days, this prestressed concrete is just soooo ugly and difficult to work with"

what's that saying about workmen and tools again??