Whetu Te Hiko

**Deano** · 26th February 2007, 14:37

Originally Posted by Patrick

... And Mr BURTON will be released well within my life time....

This is ridiculous isn't it ? Two murders and will still get to walk (limp) free again ?

**Finn** · 26th February 2007, 14:39

Originally Posted by Deano

This is ridiculous isn't it ? Two murders and will still get to walk (limp) free again ?

But the 1 in 10,000 that doesn't re offend makes Helen look good in the eyes of her voters and the UN.

**Lias** · 26th February 2007, 14:49

To quote a a song

We need a stronger government
Bring back capital punishment
Hang 'em, hang 'em, hang 'em high
You watch those fucking bastards die

**Hitcher** · 26th February 2007, 15:01

Originally Posted by Deano

This is ridiculous isn't it ? Two murders and will still get to walk (limp) free again ?

On what information are you basing such a prediction?

**Finn** · 26th February 2007, 15:03

Originally Posted by Hitcher

On what information are you basing such a prediction?

Hitcher, you can't spin your way out of this one. NZ's track record on this subject is disturbing.

**ManDownUnder** · 26th February 2007, 15:30

Originally Posted by buellbabe

what a shame we don't live by the ol' eye-for-an-eye tooth-for-a tooth type law...

Respectfully disagree - I'm not going to stoop to his level.

If he's guilty... put him in a chain gang so we get some benefit from him. There's a few years left in him yet.

**Patrick** · 26th February 2007, 15:34

Originally Posted by Finn

Hitcher, you can't spin your way out of this one. NZ's track record on this subject is disturbing.

Aint that the truth.... Preventative Detention is not like, for the rest of his natural days... He may be an oldish codger by the time he gets out, but he will be released, if the drugs in prisons don't finish him off.... I live in hope that they do fix him good............

**Paul in NZ** · 26th February 2007, 15:35

Originally Posted by Finn

I'm certainly not proud of what they've achieved and neither are a lot of maori. Also, I'd really like to know what maori culture is exactly apart from what I see on Police 10 7.

That's the problem - maori party policy. There shouldn't be any. Having a maori party is racist. It's just like the Greens - pointless.

Christ you talk some crap...

OK - no maori party - sweet. Business round table - no sorry, can't have groups of people with specialist aims and a select membership base getting together to try and influence things can we? Hmm.. Better ditch the labour party, hell ALL political parties and outlaw the ganges too. Army has to go as well.

The maori party has every right to exist and to strive for the betterment of maori people. Some of their policy is actually pretty sensible if you take the time to listen.

As for their culture? I guess you missed the Kapa Haka National champs that were on last weekend?

Not all maori are bad - yes there is a much higher percentage of Maori population in jail etc etc but perhaps the way forward is to applaud the good things Maori are doing for Maori.

Personally - I shoot the cunt that killed the school teacher in a second - but not because he is a maori.

We have arrived at this sorry situation because we are all greedy and selfish. Finns OK - he can afford bigger walls than us but it's just a delaying tactic.

**riffer** · 26th February 2007, 15:39

Originally Posted by Finn

But the 1 in 10,000 that doesn't re offend makes Helen look good in the eyes of her voters and the UN.

Strange you say that. Listener article of last week claimed recidivism rates were 10% for murderers.

How do you explain your widely divergent claim?

**riffer** · 26th February 2007, 15:40

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

The maori party has every right to exist and to strive for the betterment of maori people. Some of their policy is actually pretty sensible if you take the time to listen... Not all maori are bad - yes there is a much higher percentage of Maori population in jail etc etc but perhaps the way forward is to applaud the good things Maori are doing for Maori.

And maybe the time has come to look at marae justice as well.

**Patrick** · 26th February 2007, 15:42

Originally Posted by riffer

Strange you say that. Listener article of last week claimed recidivism rates were 10% for murderers.

How do you explain your widely divergent claim?

The other 89% are still in jail

**Patrick** · 26th February 2007, 15:43

Originally Posted by riffer

And maybe the time has come to look at marae justice as well.

Different laws for people based on skin type... rings a familiar bell for some reason...

**Deano** · 26th February 2007, 15:44

Originally Posted by Hitcher

On what information are you basing such a prediction?

Hearsay only from what Patrick said in an earlier post - it wasn't a prediction it was a question

I was under the impression Patrick was a cop or ex cop, but could be wrong.

Originally Posted by Patrick

Aint that the truth.... Preventative Detention is not like, for the rest of his natural days... He may be an oldish codger by the time he gets out, but he will be released, if the drugs in prisons don't finish him off.... I live in hope that they do fix him good............

**Finn** · 26th February 2007, 15:54

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

We have arrived at this sorry situation because we are all greedy and selfish. Finns OK - he can afford bigger walls than us but it's just a delaying tactic.

Greedy and selfish? The vast majority of NZ'ers are struggling to make ends meet. Tell them they're greedy and selfish. You're about as out of touch as Helen fucken Clark, so tell me Paul, is it an unhealthy dose of academic ideology that's clouding your judgment?

If I can afford bigger walls it's because I worked my arse off to have the money to build them. So I don't appreciate having to pay for walls to be built for people who sit at home playing PS2 pumping out babies like its a fucken competition.

Don't give me that "all maori's aren't bad" shit. We're not at kindergarten.