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WuZards-Eugene
21st September 2010, 12:58
For the summer daylight saving period (from 26 September), first ride on the 29th September.

Rendezvous point: The Duck Pond in Avalon Park, off Fairway Drive, Lower Hutt (map attached)

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Arrive with a full tank of gas.

Assemble from 6:00pm

Depart at 6:30pm

These are informal easy-paced rides, ideal for learners and people new to Wellington to meet up and go riding. For faster rides, see the The Real Thursday Night Ride (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/128802-TRTNR-The-Real-Thursday-Night-Ride-2010-2011).

The default ride is often over the Rimutakas or Paekakariki Hill. The destination is ultimately left to a group consensus prior to departure. Destinations are commonly The Royal Pub in Featherson, The Tin Hut in Tauherenikau, The White Swan in Greytown, Gordy's Bar in Paraparaumu, and the Montieths bar in Mana, however a final decision about destination is generally left to a group consensus prior to departure. Weather and road conditions on the Hill, combined with a Group Vibe, mean other destinations and routes are sometimes chosen.

carbonhed
21st September 2010, 20:09
Are we supposed to take turns with the "Group Vibe" thingy?

I only ask because I've been showing up for ages and so far not so much as a sniff :chase:

John_H
21st September 2010, 20:29
I'm looking forward to it. I won't make the first one but I'll certainly be up for the next.

Hitcher
21st September 2010, 21:14
Ah, summer. Nice.

rie
22nd September 2010, 12:13
Ignorant of how to subscribe to this thread I revert to posting a pointless comment so I can get updates on this great idea.

Gone Burger
22nd September 2010, 14:53
Yep - can't make it next week, but will be there each week after for a nice ride with great folk, as per last summer. :)

Will be good to see some old faces again, and of course some new ones.

sinned
22nd September 2010, 17:30
Ignorant of how to subscribe to this thread I revert to posting a pointless comment so I can get updates on this great idea.
On section immediately above post #1 click on "Thread Tools" and select subscribe. Yes is could be a good idea - which is why I read the thread :bleh:

Hitcher
22nd September 2010, 19:24
On section immediately above post #1 click on "Thread Tools" and select subscribe.

Pfft. Like THAT'S going to help your post count.

sinned
22nd September 2010, 19:29
Pfft. Like THAT'S going to help your post count.
Who cares for post count? Now kilometer count is important and mine is too low.

KoroJ
22nd September 2010, 20:19
.....These are informal easy-paced rides, ideal for learners and people new to Wellington to meet up and go riding.

That's an intriguing concept Eugene......considering my memories of the last Cruisy Wednesday ride I attended?!

I hope they pan out this way.

HQfiend
22nd September 2010, 22:34
Ignorant of how to subscribe to this thread I revert to posting a pointless comment so I can get updates on this great idea.

Also known as "Ghetto Subscription" :bleh:

WuZards-Eugene
22nd September 2010, 23:04
That's an intriguing concept Eugene......considering my memories of the last Cruisy Wednesday ride I attended?!

I hope they pan out this way.

Hopefully we can get the more spirited riders to go ahead of the group.

I shall be there for the ride.

sinfull
23rd September 2010, 09:05
Hopefully we can get the more spirited riders to go ahead of the group.

I shall be there for the ride.

Ya could always send em way ahead to saturday ! Anyone gets too spirited on this ride will more n likely to get told to fuck way off ahead !
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/127122-Otaki-Social-Riders-Poker-Run-25-Sept.-2010?p=1129866612#post1129866612

WuZards-Eugene
27th September 2010, 15:50
It is almost time; to wait for two days :facepalm:

ola_bitchola1
27th September 2010, 20:38
oh my all this riding coming up wont make it for the first one as they have a fashion show at work on and i have to be around to perv/make sure nothing goes wrong but will be there for the next one 2 nights a week of twilight group riding i love daylight savings

Hitcher
27th September 2010, 20:54
My Shiver is waiting on three components ex-USA, only one of which is mechanically-enhancing. I won't be a starter this week but after that, I am most hopeful.

rie
28th September 2010, 09:50
it had always struck me as odd that TCWNR had no relation to the actual title until I realised that it was scrambled. And despite the self-explanatory title there is some suggestion that this is not in fact very cruisey at all. it's like a secret club where nothing is quite as it seems...

*ominous music*

Gone Burger
28th September 2010, 10:30
it had always struck me as odd that TCWNR had no relation to the actual title until I realised that it was scrambled. And despite the self-explanatory title there is some suggestion that this is not in fact very cruisey at all. it's like a secret club where nothing is quite as it seems...

*ominous music*

Hey Rie -

To be honest, I went on a few of these last summer. I was on my 250, and it was a struggle to stay with the group. But it was a 250 cruiser, and I was only a learner too. Now that I have a grown up bike, I know these are going to be very enjoyable rides. Its a nice pace (the pace I wish I could have gone on my 250), and some really great people.

Basically, the week progresses like this...

Tuesday night rides are slow, for learners and smaller bikes etc.
Wednesday night rides up the pace substantially from there, but are defiantly in the middle of the rides as far as pace goes.
Thursday night rides are fast paced, and not for anyone who wants a quiet pootle.

Hope that helps. I can't wait for these Wednesday rides. Can't make the first few weeks, but its the first season when I have a bigger bike, and its going to be a ride I look forward to each week.

carbonhed
28th September 2010, 10:32
it had always struck me as odd that TCWNR had no relation to the actual title until I realised that it was scrambled. And despite the self-explanatory title there is some suggestion that this is not in fact very cruisey at all. it's like a secret club where nothing is quite as it seems...

*ominous music*

You realise that we'll have to have you killed now...

BuzzardNZ
28th September 2010, 11:09
wouldn't mind trying this out :yes: what time you all usually finish up by?

WuZards-Eugene
28th September 2010, 13:40
Usually everyone gets to the destination by around 7:30, with a stop half way (depending on where we go), and from there, you can take as much/little time as you want to get home.

As most of the riding takes place on the open road, slow bikes do lag behind. It is up to riders to let someone know if they are either unable to keep up an open road speed (of 100kph) or if they are still not fully confident with riding.

There is always someone there that will be more than willing to take people under their wing, or to stay behind the group. Do not expect everyone to mentor you and provide advise if you do not ask. Those that do not ask, do not get. I should be there most nights for the first couple of months, so if you would like some help just look for the big old red and white bike with bags, I am more than willing to help people out.

As I understand it, this was previously alot more of a cruisy learner friendly ride, until all the learners that were turning up got their full, and bigger bikes, and turned up for the ride. From there, not many learners were left, which meant that the rides turned into more of a social ride, where everyone agreed (or disagreed) on the destination, and set off at their own pace. As with any ride, one must ride your own ride.

BuzzardNZ
28th September 2010, 13:57
Thanks, sounds cool. Not so sure I need mentoring though, been riding over 25 years, still, nice to know it's available should some need it :)

Gone Burger
28th September 2010, 14:07
As most of the riding takes place on the open road, slow bikes do lag behind. It is up to riders to let someone know if they are either unable to keep up an open road speed (of 100kph) or if they are still not fully confident with riding.

There is always someone there that will be more than willing to take people under their wing, or to stay behind the group.

I will 100% back this up - I was most persisstant in turning up on my slow bike last summer, and everytime there was someone who stayed with me, and followed me on the rides and kept with me - offering much support. It was always much appreciated too. Bloody good bunch I tell ya!

sinned
28th September 2010, 16:35
As much as I like the idea of getting back into summer riding the weather forecast doesn't look too good for the first cruisy ride of the season.

sels1
28th September 2010, 18:36
Dont know if I'll make the first ride, but Im in Brizzy at the mo and not sure what time I'll be back (due unexpected flight resheduling)
Have fun I'll be they next week maybe

Quasi
28th September 2010, 19:01
MonstA having a big service but hopefully can pick up tomorrow in time to make the ride. :scooter:

Cloggy
28th September 2010, 19:43
:banana:Whoohoo!! :wari:

Daylight savings has arrived. Let the rides begin. :scooter:

james007
28th September 2010, 20:42
It goes something like this.
Arrive at Featherstone a little hungry. Order beer and small fries, which turns out to be more than you can eat so you give half away.
Back to the Parrot/Station and steak/pasta/burger/apple-crumble/ice-cream.
Struggle home feeling a bit sick promising yourself not to eat too much next time.
...
Same again next time.

carbonhed
29th September 2010, 15:03
So what's the weather like in the Valley? Over here it's not actually raining and the roads are dry but it looks pretty threatening.

BuzzardNZ
29th September 2010, 15:15
dunno about the Hutt, but it sucks in Wellington CBD

carbonhed
29th September 2010, 15:18
dunno about the Hutt, but it sucks in Wellington CBD

Bah! 'kin typical. Thanks though.

WuZards-Eugene
29th September 2010, 15:53
dunno about the Hutt, but it sucks in Wellington CBD

The hutts OK, dunno about that hill tho :shit:

Quasi
29th September 2010, 17:08
Well - got back late from picking up my bike so no time to get over the hill to the DP - BUT gorgeous day in the Rapa. will go to the Royal soon and see if anyone turns up there:yes:

Stylo
29th September 2010, 18:31
The hutts OK, dunno about that hill tho :shit:

Good thread, look out for the G2 Busa rolling off the Ferry later on Sunday , looking fwd to the NI experience .... If you see us coming through Porirua on Mon morning heading North then...toot your horn , good weather please guys :-)

KoroJ
29th September 2010, 18:34
it had always struck me as odd that TCWNR had no relation to the actual title until I realised that it was scrambled. And despite the self-explanatory title there is some suggestion that this is not in fact very cruisey at all. it's like a secret club where nothing is quite as it seems...

*ominous music*

Oooohhh....I thought it stood for The Cwik Wednesday Night Ride!?

james007
29th September 2010, 19:35
Well, 4 of us went up the hill and 4 of us came down again. So summer riding has started. I'de love to say that it was sunny at the top, ...but it wasn't.

Quasi
29th September 2010, 19:36
i left Martinborough in the sun, sat at the Royal in the drizzle, went back to the sun in Martinborough:sunny:

Cloggy
29th September 2010, 20:12
Jeez, some of you lot are keen.
I took just one look at the skies around 6pm and flagged it.

carbonhed
30th September 2010, 12:52
I took just one look at the skies around 6pm and flagged it.

Wasn't raining much at the top or at the duckpond... the bits in between weren't much fun and going back over Haywards was like being in a washing machine :facepalm:

captain_andrey
1st October 2010, 03:10
You guys are making me jealous now. Winter is rolling in here :(

Gareth51
5th October 2010, 20:46
Must be time to get one of the bikes out of the shed and blow the cobwebs out of it :scooter:

sels1
6th October 2010, 07:15
Yup, should be a starter today. Kapiti riders - 5:15 at mobil?

John_H
6th October 2010, 08:11
I'll be there tonight!

Hans
6th October 2010, 11:19
The north side of the Takas is getting resurfaced today. The bumps in the little valley at the end are history. Woohoo!

carbonhed
6th October 2010, 13:33
Yup, should be a starter today. Kapiti riders - 5:15 at mobil?

Hi Sels, may be a few minutes late but will be there.

sels1
6th October 2010, 14:01
Hi Sels, may be a few minutes late but will be there.
Ok, will wait til 5:30ish

Hitcher
6th October 2010, 14:32
The north side of the Takas is getting resurfaced today. The bumps in the little valley at the end are history. Woohoo!

Twas all done and dusted by 5:45pm last night. Most nice it is too. No expense spared, it's been done in hot mix. Lovely.

Hans
6th October 2010, 14:52
Erm, nope. Still happening today.

Quasi
6th October 2010, 15:22
Erm, nope. Still happening today.

Perhaps Hitchers hot riding necessitated it to be redone already:scooter:

John_H
6th October 2010, 21:06
Good turnout tonight, blat over to featherston pub, big red place can't remember the name. Gareth had some trouble on the way back on the wairarapa side of the hill in the shape of a big boulder. Cracked his oil sump and dispensed all his oil on the side of the road. Selwyn continued to ride oblivious to his plight all the way to Kaitoke thinking he was following him! Hope you finally reached home okay Gareth.:yes::yes:

Gone Burger
6th October 2010, 21:10
Hope you two Gentlemen made it home safe and sound (Gareth and Sels...). All tucked up in bed now? ;)

Lovey ride, thanks everyone. And I had much fun riding with that wee group of 4 of us after our wee stop on the takas on the way home. Cheers Leber, always fun to follow you on a ride.

Looking forward to next week already :)

sels1
6th October 2010, 22:27
Hope you two Gentlemen made it home safe and sound (Gareth and Sels...). All tucked up in bed now? ;)
Nearly :)
Had to wait a while for the van to come. While we were there 3 boi racers pulled in, one of them blew a tyre on the same rock that Gareth hit, and they had to change it right where we were. After the bike was in the van I went back down the hill and found the offending rock (it was a big sucker) and removed it off the road



Selwyn continued to ride oblivious to his plight all the way to Kaitoke thinking he was following him!
Thats cause I could see the twin headlights of a triple behind me all the way - wasnt til I slowed down to let him catch up I found out it was the wrong triple! Had a worrying ride back up the hill.....glad to find everybody upright and only mechanical damage

carbonhed
7th October 2010, 13:44
Damn! That was a huge bloody rock to hit. Lucky you stayed upright Gareth. Hope there's not too much damage.

Rev DJ
13th October 2010, 16:26
Is it Wednesday already? Anyone out for a blat? DJ

mattathm
13th October 2010, 16:32
Is it Wednesday already? Anyone out for a blat? DJ


Does Jesus wear sandals???:yes:

supremacy
13th October 2010, 17:59
Hey guys, only discovered this ride today (a bit late). Will be there next week on the 250!

Scotty

WuZards-Eugene
13th October 2010, 21:10
Hey guys, only discovered this ride today (a bit late). Will be there next week on the 250!

Scotty

awesome, see you there

Great ride tonight, bit pooey on the hill tho.

Hitcher
13th October 2010, 21:19
Does Jesus wear sandals???:yes:

Dunno. But Dolly Parton sleeps on her back.

ecko_nzed
14th October 2010, 11:42
Dunno. But Dolly Parton sleeps on her back.

Dunno, but the Pope is a Catholic


Great ride tonight, bit pooey on the hill tho.

A "Bit Pooey"! it was damn near impossible to see the bike in front. Just about ended up as pillon on James Busa a couple of times :shit:

carbonhed
14th October 2010, 12:06
A "Bit Pooey"! it was damn near impossible to see the bike in front. Just about ended up as pillon on James Busa a couple of times :shit:

Whew that's a relief. I was looking up the Hill as we got to Kaitoke and thought it looked like shit. Pulled a U'y and had another thrash over Paekark instead.

Next week maybe.

Gone Burger
14th October 2010, 13:47
Na it wasn't that bad (ok, VERY pleased I ducked home to change from the tinted visor though). Lovely wee ride, sorry for arriving 5 hours late in either direction, was a bit nervous on a new rear tyre with the damp surface and my crappy skills. Nice to see some old faces again, and new ones of course :)

sinned
14th October 2010, 17:28
Some nice bikes on display. James' sparkling white Busa, VFR1200 and 2 Ducs. I really like the Street Fighter but at $37k it is an expensive replacement for the Speedtriple - still we shall see - Lotto this weekend?

I didn't stay at Featherston - thought about it then headed back over the hill. A good ride.

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mattathm
16th October 2010, 09:54
Motomart have a bike expo at overseas terminal this weekend sat and sun!

Quasi
20th October 2010, 15:22
Anyone riding today?

Sun is shining in the Rapa, so I may have to come over to the DP. Anyone else??

Gone Burger
20th October 2010, 15:25
I won't be there tonight Carla - getting photos done of the house to re-launch it.

Fine over here too - have a good ride

Quasi
20th October 2010, 19:27
Great turnout and a nice wee ride over the hill - LOTS of sexy ducatis in force tonight:woohoo::yes:

Thanks Bryce, Clint and Eugene for mentoring the newbies. You guys are great.

Hope everyone got home safe and sound and not too chilled.

supremacy
21st October 2010, 06:49
Thanks Bryce, Clint and Eugene for mentoring the newbies. You guys are great.


+1

Cheers for a great ride!

Quasi
27th October 2010, 12:51
and its T SHirt weather and hot roads over the hill:yes:

carbonhed
27th October 2010, 13:33
and its T SHirt weather and hot roads over the hill:yes:

The yellow peril up and running with a new tyre?

Quasi
27th October 2010, 13:51
The yellow peril up and running with a new tyre?

just going to pick her up shortly, nice ride over the hill should scrub in nicely

Bald Eagle
27th October 2010, 14:03
and its T SHirt weather and hot roads over the hill:yes:

you rapa types stealing all our sunshine again, grey and grotty here as usual.

Quasi
27th October 2010, 14:32
you rapa types stealing all our sunshine again, grey and grotty here as usual.

its never been yours to be stolen:blink:

ecko_nzed
27th October 2010, 17:04
and its T SHirt weather and hot roads over the hill:yes:
boo sunny weather and no bike :angry:, one of the down sides of owning an old dunger. Well have fun peoples I'll sit on the deck and watch jealously as you ride past over the hill :cry::whocares:

Quasi
27th October 2010, 20:11
was a great ride over the hill tonight, great bunch of riders as always, and a gorgeous Rapa evening to share with you Welly lot.
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Rev DJ
27th October 2010, 20:19
was a great ride over the hill tonight

Nah, it was a bit muddy on the way back!!

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steelestring
27th October 2010, 20:21
Nah, it was a bit muddy on the way back!!

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What the.....!!?????!!!???:sick:

Cloggy
27th October 2010, 20:21
Had a wee off-road excursion on the way home tonight.
Came into a corner down the hill probably a little faster than I would have liked and locked up the rear wheel. Nothing that hasn't happened before but this time I freaked out and didn't let go of the rear brake. Net result was that the bike didn't go around the corner and I ended up heading straight for the hill side.
Luckily I stopped just short of colliding with the hill but ended up in deep mud just of the edge of the road. Couldn't hold the bike up in that and ended up laying it on its side softly in deep mud. Thank goodness for the mud being so soft as there appears to be no bent or broken bits on the bike. The mirror didn't even need readjusting.
The only damage is to my pride, can't say I have never layed a bike on its side anymore.
Anyway, picked up the bike but couldn't budge out of the mud by myself.
Luckily Bryce, John, Dave and another guy weren't far behind and gave me a hand to free the bike. Thanks guys. :niceone:
John and Dave took some photos (pics or didn't happen right?) which will no doubt make their way on here soon.
Bryce is rubbing his hands together as he thinks he may have sold me some knobblies to fit on the Daytona so I can take it off-roading properly.
RIght, of to go and wash the mud of the bike to see if there is any damage to the paint at all.

Cloggy
27th October 2010, 20:24
Nah, it was a bit muddy on the way back!!

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Good on ya Dave. :killingme
Thanks for giving me a hand.
Owe you guys a beer next Wednesday.

WuZards-Eugene
27th October 2010, 20:27
Bryce is rubbing his hands together as he thinks he may have sold me some knobblies to fit on the Daytona so I can take it off-roading properly.
RIght, of to go and wash the mud of the bike to see if there is any damage to the paint at all.

You need a WR426, I've got just the thing for you :yes:

steelestring
27th October 2010, 20:28
Had a wee off-road excursion on the way home tonight.
Came into a corner down the hill probably a little faster than I would have liked and locked up the rear wheel. Nothing that hasn't happened before but this time I freaked out and didn't let go of the rear brake. Net result was that the bike didn't go around the corner and I ended up heading straight for the hill side.
Luckily I stopped just short of colliding with the hill but ended up in deep mud just of the edge of the road. Couldn't hold the bike up in that and ended up laying it on its side softly in deep mud. Thank goodness for the mud being so soft as there appears to be no bent or broken bits on the bike. The mirror didn't even need readjusting.
The only damage is to my pride, can't say I have never layed a bike on its side anymore.
Anyway, picked up the bike but couldn't budge out of the mud by myself.
Luckily Bryce, John, Dave and another guy weren't far behind and gave me a hand to free the bike. Thanks guys. :niceone:
John and Dave took some photos (pics or didn't happen right?) which will no doubt make their way on here soon.
Bryce is rubbing his hands together as he thinks he may have sold me some knobblies to fit on the Daytona so I can take it off-roading properly.
RIght, of to go and wash the mud of the bike to see if there is any damage to the paint at all.

Man oh man! Thats some good luck from the mud monster you got there!
I followed you down the hill rappa side 2nite I think.. nice looking bike dude:yes:

Quasi
27th October 2010, 20:34
Nah, it was a bit muddy on the way back!!

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!!!!!! - how the heck did that happen:gob:. Pierre okay??

Bald Eagle
27th October 2010, 20:36
He was trying out for the next Telstra Ad campaign. ( Right make wrong model )

Good to see it's only damaged pride though.

Quasi
27th October 2010, 20:36
okay - just turned the page and read the rest of the posts. Glad you and your gorgeous bike are all okay Pierre. See you next week

Gone Burger
27th October 2010, 20:55
Extremely pleased you are ok Pierre!!! Now - don't do that again ok? Hopemit hasn't knocked you too much, and you can just sleep it off with a good nights sleep.

I had a lovely ride.. and just a quick pootle back over the hill on my own afterwards. Nice and gentle on a beautiful evening. Great turn out too. Good to see the girls there :hug:

Cloggy
27th October 2010, 21:08
Yep, very, very lucky. Not even a scratch on the bike now that I have washed it.
Phew... :sweatdrop

Hawkeye
27th October 2010, 21:23
Yep, very, very lucky. Not even a scratch on the bike now that I have washed it.
Phew... :sweatdrop

Good to hear that both you and the bike are ok Pierre. Take it easy out there.
Was going to come join you tonight but the cage has broken down and needed some TLC. Unfortunately I don't have enough TLC so looks like I am going to have to put her in the garage to get sorted.:facepalm:

mattathm
27th October 2010, 21:47
John and Dave took some photos (pics or didn't happen right?) which will no doubt make their way on here soon.

Try 2 posts prior to you writing this, heehhehehe.

Good ole KB'ers !!

Glad your ok,

Question: Do you think you had the old, fixate on a position and that's where you ended up, or did the bike become uncontrolable with the rear locked up?
Interested....

Cloggy
27th October 2010, 22:19
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Question: Do you think you had the old, fixate on a position and that's where you ended up, or did the bike become uncontrolable with the rear locked up?
Interested....
All that theory of looking were you want to go left the brain instantly and trying to get the bike to come to a stop before hitting something took over.
You know / learn / get told that in a situation like this you need to let go of the rear brake to get control back. But there are just a few milliseconds to react. With years of experience the theory might spring into action automatically. But I have only been riding 2 1/2 years and this is my first incident and I guess panic took over. Coming to a stop without hitting anything was all that mattered at the time.

sels1
28th October 2010, 07:16
Coming to a stop without hitting anything was all that mattered at the time.
And we are all glad you achieved that! Chalk that one up to experience eh?

Good turnout for the ride (anybody do a head count?) Great to catch up with everybody

Quasi
28th October 2010, 09:16
Good turnout for the ride (anybody do a head count?) Great to catch up with everybody

Going by the number of bikes i can se in my pics - over 30

Drogen Omen
28th October 2010, 11:02
Glad you and your bike are okay Pierre...

should have given you my mountain bike... lol

thanks for the advice Brice, glowing the stud seems to have done the job managed to drill another 5mm out with the tungsten plated 6" drill bits last night, still trying to take the exhaust system off so i can use the carbide drill bits though.

hope to have it sorted for next Wednesday ride.

John_H
28th October 2010, 17:45
I was a bit worried when I rounded the corner and saw you there mate but you and the bike were really lucky. Here's what I got of the incident.
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Not great pics but lucky for you that the mud acted as a kind of gravel trap.

Matey
29th October 2010, 22:11
Any crash you can walk away from was a good one. It was a real bonus that the bike didnt get bent! Hope to see you next Weds night ride.

biggles1
3rd November 2010, 05:54
I might bring the new beast out for a blast tonight.Weather lokks OK.:yes::yes::yes:

davebullet
3rd November 2010, 06:47
I might bring the new beast out for a blast tonight.Weather lokks OK.:yes::yes::yes:

Would that be the VFR or Daytona?

Quasi
3rd November 2010, 06:50
Have an awesome ride guys and gals - will be magic on the hill tonight:yes:, but i will take a run down to Lake Ferry for a feed instead

biggles1
3rd November 2010, 08:29
The Triumph Daytona 675 Bright Red and loaded with lots carbon fibre and race goodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

davebullet
3rd November 2010, 09:16
The Triumph Daytona 675 Bright Red and loaded with lots carbon fibre and race goodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Noice! New as in brand new? Will see you tonight. Good to see more Triumph riders (though don't follow me for fear of getting lost plus an oil slick - leaking as Triumphs like to do)

John_H
3rd November 2010, 09:43
I'll be there making up the triumph numbers!

Rev DJ
3rd November 2010, 13:33
It is the perfect evening for a blat round the lake too. Anyone keen?

Rev DJ
3rd November 2010, 13:38
I'll be there making up the triumph numbers!

Translation:
Iwwll be dere - sneeze - mmwakin up d twyump nubbrs - sniff, sneeze!! :sick: :yes:

IdunBrokdItAgin
3rd November 2010, 13:59
I'll be there making up the triumph numbers!

Top Bannana! I 'll be along for once as well.

John_H
3rd November 2010, 14:55
Translation:
Iwwll be dere - sneeze - mmwakin up d twyump nubbrs - sniff, sneeze!! :sick: :yes:

Ha ha, true Dave. Felt pretty shit this morning but just had a bit of a nana nap and feel revitalised!


Top Bannana! I 'll be along for once as well.

Good on you mate, see you there.

mattathm
3rd November 2010, 15:11
i just did wellys around the lake to marty then back to wellys.
Road on hill is good
NO traffic but im sure that will change
and lake perfect,

Gone Burger
3rd November 2010, 15:15
Will play tag-along again tonight. Getting grumpy on a cruiser :angry:, but looking forward to a ride non-the-less.

WuZards-Eugene
3rd November 2010, 15:34
I shall be there to make up the retart numbers also.

Or is it motard numbers,

I don't know anymore :facepalm:

See everyone at the pond.

Hans
3rd November 2010, 18:57
RANT FOLLOWS: I generally don't do group rides, because of the questionable attitude of some and because I enjoy riding at my pace. AM I NOT SAFE FROM SOME CRETINS ANYWHERE? As I was riding back over the hill today, I was nearly taken out by some MORON ON A YELLOW HYOSUNG, who clearly doesn't know where his side of the road is and that you don't pass on a blind corner. Yes he was part of TCWNR. YOU COCK. I was tempted to turn around and head back to the Royal to duke it out. Alas, I am older and maybe wiser than I once was. Tone it down you muppet, you know who you are, there was only one yellow Hyo on the ride. RANT ENDS. Hope the rest of you enjoyed the ride.

Cloggy
3rd November 2010, 20:27
Yep saw you coming over the hill Hans. Too late to give you a friendly wave though, you really need to do something to your bike to make it stand out from the crowd.
Go on, surprise me tomorrow morning on the way to work :yes:
But yes, I think most of the rest of us had a good ride. Four of us went on a bug splatting mission around the lake with some good results.
Took it nice and easy on the way back over the hill. Got overtaken by a Harley :facepalm:
Thought it was Katie at first and that she was in a real hurry.

Gone Burger
3rd November 2010, 20:37
Took it nice and easy on the way back over the hill. Got overtaken by a Harley :facepalm:
Thought it was Katie at first and that she was in a real hurry.

You should know better than that Cloggy! Me, over take, on the hill? Hahahaha funniest thing I have ever heard. But yes, mr Harley was a machine - gave me knew insight into cruiser riding hehe.

Also had a nice gentel ride home. Man - those wedges were yummy. So was that tomato sauce :yes:

Rev DJ
3rd November 2010, 21:48
RANT FOLLOWS: I generally don't do group rides, because of the questionable attitude of some and because I enjoy riding at my pace. AM I NOT SAFE FROM SOME CRETINS ANYWHERE? As I was riding back over the hill today, I was nearly taken out by some MORON ON A YELLOW HYOSUNG, who clearly doesn't know where his side of the road is and that you don't pass on a blind corner. Yes he was part of TCWNR. YOU COCK. I was tempted to turn around and head back to the Royal to duke it out. Alas, I am older and maybe wiser than I once was. Tone it down you muppet, you know who you are, there was only one yellow Hyo on the ride. RANT ENDS. Hope the rest of you enjoyed the ride.

I wholeheartedly support this comment. I was a couple of bikes behind and saw the near miss - and it was very close! You should be very contrite Mr Yellow Hyo - and remember cutting blind corners is just plain dumb!!

You are very lucky that you: missed JH when leaving the carpark at the summit (JH had to swerve/brake to avoid you); missed Hans when cutting the corner; missed the next rider when you overtook; and the list goes on... nuf said. Learn from this - keep the red mist in check.

DJ

Rev DJ
3rd November 2010, 21:57
Just love these Duc's...

and some more pics of the bikes this evening...

WuZards-Eugene
4th November 2010, 00:01
RANT FOLLOWS:

Hans didn't wave back at me. :shit: although you didn't have much time, so i'll let you get away with it this time :)

RANT ENDS

Good to see you on the road anyways, I was way down the hill behind everyone on the WR. I forgot that bikes need gas every now and then :facepalm: so had to make a pit stop before heading for the hill.

davebullet
4th November 2010, 06:44
Been about 10 months since my last wed night ride.

I had a great ride back. No dramas or f'ups. Followed Eugene who promptly left me for dust. No vehicles going up and only one car down the other side. Managed to get a little further over than normal and getting used to the handling of the triple.

Suspension upgrade is something I'm definitely going to look into. She doesn't like corrugations in the road.

Great to catchup with you and look forward to more of these (pending permission of "the thumb")

White trash
4th November 2010, 07:06
RANT FOLLOWS: I generally don't do group rides, because of the questionable attitude of some and because I enjoy riding at my pace. AM I NOT SAFE FROM SOME CRETINS ANYWHERE? As I was riding back over the hill today, I was nearly taken out by some MORON ON A YELLOW HYOSUNG, who clearly doesn't know where his side of the road is and that you don't pass on a blind corner. Yes he was part of TCWNR. YOU COCK. I was tempted to turn around and head back to the Royal to duke it out. Alas, I am older and maybe wiser than I once was. Tone it down you muppet, you know who you are, there was only one yellow Hyo on the ride. RANT ENDS. Hope the rest of you enjoyed the ride.


I wholeheartedly support this comment. I was a couple of bikes behind and saw the near miss - and it was very close! You should be very contrite Mr Yellow Hyo - and remember cutting blind corners is just plain dumb!!

You are very lucky that you: missed JH when leaving the carpark at the summit (JH had to swerve/brake to avoid you); missed Hans when cutting the corner; missed the next rider when you overtook; and the list goes on... nuf said. Learn from this - keep the red mist in check.

DJ

Hmmmmm, interesting comments from what's supposed to be a cruisy Wednesday night ride. And not the first I've heard. Perhaps someone needs to take a bit of ownership of these rides and tell riders to SETTLE THE FUCK DOWN before a tradgedy occurs.

Eyegasm
4th November 2010, 07:18
Hmmmmm, interesting comments from what's supposed to be a cruisy Wednesday night ride. And not the first I've heard. Perhaps someone needs to take a bit of ownership of these rides and tell riders to SETTLE THE FUCK DOWN before a tradgedy occurs.

Hahahaha, maybe you could tell him that in person. Fellow on the yellow Hyosung works down at TSS.

White trash
4th November 2010, 07:43
Hahahaha, maybe you could tell him that in person. Fellow on the yellow Hyosung works down at TSS.

Excellent. I will tell him. Thanks for that.

sinfull
4th November 2010, 07:47
Suspension upgrade is something I'm definitely going to look into. She doesn't like corrugations in the road.

)

You played with your settings and sags yet Dave ? That triple should soak up the coro's peice of piss !
Could be as simple as not enough rebound under brakes
http://www.gostar-racing.com/club/How_I_set_up_my_motorbike.pdf
I used this to set mine up and get my head around the science of it ! Took me a few reads lol, but if i can nutt it out, i'm sure someone like yourself will suss it !
Worked out that the spring rates on the triple are perfect for my 100kg with gear on, to get the correct sags !
The emulators are pretty basic (or should i say lacking for track work) but well sufficient for road riding
Just remember to write down the settings that it came out of the factory with (which i didn't lol)

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 07:51
Excellent. I will tell him. Thanks for that.

I've asked Ivan to give him a slap in the interim.

Someone really does need to take control of these rides and I am seriously thinking about coming down and doing it myself. I would happily be tail end charlie and send all the wannabe Rossi's of to meet us at the destination. Would just need a lead rider and anyone who is riding between myself and the lead that acts like a dork will be riding with the wannabe Rossi's from the next ride on.

I seriously am waiting for a Weds night RIP thread......

Hans
4th November 2010, 08:18
Excellent. I will tell him. Thanks for that.

I might pop in and have a quiet word with him myself. He did nearly get me killed after all.

Eyegasm
4th November 2010, 08:20
I've asked Ivan to give him a slap in the interim.

I would happily be tail end charlie

I seriously am waiting for a Weds night RIP thread......

Sweet Str8, you can be at the back with me!!!:woohoo:

I hope that there is never a RIP thread for these, a lot of the riders are nice and courteous (sp) only a few ruin it for the many.

And Dave mate, you need to give me your Speed triple:yes: (When the hyobag is getting slowed down going up the hill by a 1050 I feel bad for the 1050)

Gone Burger
4th November 2010, 08:39
I have found these folk to generally be wonderful to ride with, and not ones to put others at risk like this - with a FEW exceptions. So I hope this doesn't ruin it for the rest of us who enjoy just going for a ride, at our own pace, to meet up with friends and have a good ride and a laugh. The whole rest of the group last night (and big numbers too) were very well behaved indeed, with no other issues! I was up near the front for a wee bit and was impressed with the faster riders, and then quickly slipped to the back over the hill to my usual spot.

Quasi
4th November 2010, 09:01
I've asked Ivan to give him a slap in the interim.

Someone really does need to take control of these rides and I am seriously thinking about coming down and doing it myself. I would happily be tail end charlie and send all the wannabe Rossi's of to meet us at the destination. Would just need a lead rider and anyone who is riding between myself and the lead that acts like a dork will be riding with the wannabe Rossi's from the next ride on.

I seriously am waiting for a Weds night RIP thread......

This is chilling to read and I am kinda glad I didnt make the ride yesterday. The speed and safety factor became a bit of an issue last year and it hasnt taken long to rear its ugly head again. Thanks Hels for offering to step up to the mark and take ownership of the ride and help to make it safer for us all. There doesnt seem to be a problem with the back riders, its just a few young pups at the front who have gotten a bit overexcited and forgotten about common sense.

The concept of these rides is fantastic, a great bunch of people and machines, lots of laughs and talk. I always go home smiling:yes:

Lets not see it turn into something that we are all going to regret and say if only......

See you next week

WuZards-Eugene
4th November 2010, 09:45
Followed Eugene who promptly left me for dust.
Hehe, gotta love dirt bikes. Whats even more amazing, is that I havent been able to push it very hard yet.


And Dave mate, you need to give me your Speed triple (When the hyobag is getting slowed down going up the hill by a 1050 I feel bad for the 1050)

You should think about changing your lines a little, you seem to be coming out of corners way to wide. Gave me the shits on one of them.

Was a fun ride. As I had to pull off and get gas, had an absolute blast up the hill, then on the way back, went and checked out Kaitoke Park and had a little tiki tour through some of the sections deeper in the park :innocent:

White trash
4th November 2010, 09:45
Hey it's a funny thing, but only the people with their heads screwed on right seem to post in the followup to these threads, it's always the same.

Unfotunately, it's also up to these people to say something when it's noticed someone possibly endangering the ride. Don't be shy to tell people to fuck off if they're seriously causing worry.

And before any cry babies start having a go at "How you ride Jimmy" and "I've seen you doing....", please bear in mind my rides were never marketed as "Cruisy" and were usually limited to close friends and relatives who knew the score from the start. I also don't recall EVER causing a moment or concern for any other rider either within our group or otherwise.

Weaver
4th November 2010, 10:11
Hmmmmm, interesting comments from what's supposed to be a cruisy Wednesday night ride.

Cruisy? I thought the C stood for carnage!

I've tried to explain to people before that it's supposed to be a cruisy pace but they seem quite apathetic.

Eyegasm
4th November 2010, 10:13
You should think about changing your lines a little, you seem to be coming out of corners way to wide. Gave me the shits on one of them.

Mate I think I know the corner your talking about. That was coming down the hill on the way back right? I definitely overcooked a couple of corners and knew it.

My downhill entry speed is something I really need to look at closer.

Cheers Eugene.

davebullet
4th November 2010, 10:32
You should think about changing your lines a little, you seem to be coming out of corners way to wide. Gave me the shits on one of them.

Thanks for the tip.

Just to clarify... One thing I've been doing wrong is lazy steering. That is starting too soon, coming short of the apex which forces a run wide. I think many riders do that. Keith Code talks about this.

When I wait until the last possible moment, drop the bike in with a definite counter steer push, I tend to hit the apex and return in the centre of the road (not run wide).

Is that what you mean? Or am I just straightening up too soon?

davebullet
4th November 2010, 10:33
Cruisy? I thought the C stood for carnage!

I've tried to explain to people before that it's supposed to be a cruisy pace but they seem quite apathetic.

Agreed. The ride is not cruisy. But I suppose cruisy is a relative term. At my skill / comfort level I find the rides about right / on the slightly fast pace.

Hey - I have no ego to hide behind - just reality folks!

Bald Eagle
4th November 2010, 10:37
Maybe we need a new one, how about a Real Nanna Pootle Ride

davebullet
4th November 2010, 10:38
And Dave mate, you need to give me your Speed triple:yes: (When the hyobag is getting slowed down going up the hill by a 1050 I feel bad for the 1050)

Hey - 250's are nothing to be sneezed at over the hill. If I'm comfortable at 40kph around a corner - I won't go past that regardless of CCs under the tank. On all my bikes - I've been the limitation - not the bike. - bu hey - I'm alive!

davebullet
4th November 2010, 10:41
You played with your settings and sags yet Dave ? That triple should soak up the coro's peice of piss !
Could be as simple as not enough rebound under brakes
http://www.gostar-racing.com/club/How_I_set_up_my_motorbike.pdf
I used this to set mine up and get my head around the science of it ! Took me a few reads lol, but if i can nutt it out, i'm sure someone like yourself will suss it !
Worked out that the spring rates on the triple are perfect for my 100kg with gear on, to get the correct sags !
The emulators are pretty basic (or should i say lacking for track work) but well sufficient for road riding
Just remember to write down the settings that it came out of the factory with (which i didn't lol)

Thanks for that Bill. Will have a read. Like a new girlfriend, I'm still discovering what the settings are like, where she is smooth and where she gets rough!

I'll be honest and say I haven't done static / rider sag measurements. I weigh about 85Kgs with gear so I believe the bike factory is sprung in the ballpark for someone like me.

the stock suspension could definitely be dialled in better. I just need to research and as you say:
1. Only change one thing at a time
2. Document what you do and how it behaves.

mattathm
4th November 2010, 10:48
I'll be honest and say I haven't done static / rider sag measurements. I weigh about 85Kgs with gear so I believe the bike factory is sprung in the ballpark for someone like me.

the stock suspension could definitely be dialled in better. I just need to research and as you say:

DO the sag!
get someone to help. tilt the bike on the stand to get the rear wheel off the ground, measure from the axle to the side panel directly above the axle (place some tape on the point, so you use the same point each time) this is your extended distance.
then sit on the bike with both feet on the pegs with all your gear on and measure that smaller distance from the 2 same points again.
30mm difference is good for the street

And do the same for the front.

Also make usre you have the correct tyre pressures! :drinkup:

davebullet
4th November 2010, 10:51
Thanks for that. Yeah - I know what to do to set sag - just honestly? - been a lazy SOB and getting used to the bike with factory settings / breaking it in.

I regularly check tyre pressures... came from the dealer with 42psi rear... seems a little high to me (for a light bugger like myself - well relatively light....)

davebullet
4th November 2010, 10:52
I have found these folk to generally be wonderful to ride with, and not ones to put others at risk like this - with a FEW exceptions. So I hope this doesn't ruin it for the rest of us who enjoy just going for a ride, at our own pace, to meet up with friends and have a good ride and a laugh. The whole rest of the group last night (and big numbers too) were very well behaved indeed, with no other issues! I was up near the front for a wee bit and was impressed with the faster riders, and then quickly slipped to the back over the hill to my usual spot.

Nothing wrong with riding at the back part of the passage (doesn't sound right for some reason.... :lol: ). Hey I was really at the back and didn't see you guys for dust! - ok with me though.

mattathm
4th November 2010, 10:53
I regularly check tyre pressures... came from the dealer with 42psi rear... seems a little high to me (for a light bugger like myself - well relatively light....)

the late model tyres and what they are made off dont require lower pressures to heat them up any more.
On the track its different, but for the street for example, Conti Sport Attacks run 41 rear and 36 front!

davebullet
4th November 2010, 11:05
Maybe we need a new one, how about a Real Nanna Pootle Ride

I'd be up for that. Mrs. B would be keen and I think a lot of others put off by the Wed night antics.

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 11:12
The concept of these rides is fantastic,

No, the concept of these rides WAS fantastic. It's been completely lost now.

I spat the dummy last year and refused to ever ride with them again after almost being killed numerous times before the bloody summit. I stopped at the summit on my own and went home, I was fuming. I have refused to go on one since, however I feel that Uncle B's memory should actually be kept alive which is why I am thinking anout trying to do what he did with the rides so it is safe and crusiy for noobs.

White trash
4th November 2010, 11:14
No, the concept of these rides WAS fantastic. It's been completely lost now.

I spat the dummy last year and refused to ever ride with them again after almost being killed numerous times before the bloody summit. I stopped at the summit on my own and went home, I was fuming. I have refused to go on one since, however I feel that Uncle B's memory should actually be kept alive which is why I am thinking anout trying to do what he did with the rides so it is safe and crusiy for noobs.

Fucken "A" Hels, you get in there and sort this shit out.

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 11:17
Fucken "A" Hels, you get in there and sort this shit out.

hmm, seriously thinking of it. People would have to be receptive to the idea though and when I posted a thread last year after getting home from the last ride there was alot of "waaaaaaaaaaaaah" and no personal responsibility.
I also know that I have made alot of 'enemies' by speaking up, not that I care about those people's opinions....

Hans
4th November 2010, 11:23
hmm, seriously thinking of it. People would have to be receptive to the idea though and when I posted a thread last year after getting home from the last ride there was alot of "waaaaaaaaaaaaah" and no personal responsibility.
I also know that I have made alot of 'enemies' by speaking up, not that I care about those people's opinions....

Fuckin 'a. How bad is it when you avoid the ride because of these issues and still just about get taken out by someone who was on it. Strikes me as ironic. The only reason I can still post this is that I was expecting the ride to be coming the other way and therefore being extra careful.

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 11:27
Fuckin 'a. How bad is it when you avoid the ride because of these issues and still just about get taken out by someone who was on it. Strikes me as ironic. The only reason I can still post this is that I was expecting the ride to be coming the other way and therefore being extra careful.

Yes and it is unfortunate as the 'kid' who was involved with your altercation is actually a really neat guy and I have no doubt he would be remorseful and hopefully learn from this.
What grates me is that this riding is obviously being accepted or it would not occur on the ride.
Uncle B used to do a riders briefing, outlining the 'rules' clearly and telling people that they wold be told to fuck off if they endagered anyone. The people who wanted to ride their own ride without rules would go first. We would meet them at the detination. Alway's worked and at the time we had alot of noobs turn up and really enjoy themselves.

Gone Burger
4th November 2010, 11:31
To be fair - I have been a quite a few of these rides this summer, and last summer, and there hasn't been an issue, and everyone has been responsible and not out of line. But of course, have also heard of those rides when that has not been the case.

Most of us there are not like this, and truely just head along for a ride with the group, at a pace we feel comfortable with. Yes, I am very fresh at all of this, and mostly sit at the back on my cruiser. I just hope that one person being a twit doesn't ruin what is proving to be a great weekly event for many of us. I for one know it's something that I look forward to each and every week, and seem to find the other riders that I can fit into the group with at an appropriate pace for skill level etc.

Hans
4th November 2010, 11:34
Yea Hels, I think I know who it is. Young guy at the parts counter. I still might have a quiet chat with him about it. I intend to be polite...

White trash
4th November 2010, 11:41
It's also important to note that as I have absolutely zero to do with this particualr ride, never have and probably never will, it's not my place to tell it's participants how to behave, that's up to the regulars (Katie, Quasi, Eugene, anyone)

I'm simply pointing out that someone might wanna have a quick word at the start of the ride and take some ownership before something bad occurs.

Peace out and good luck guys.

davebullet
4th November 2010, 13:42
Three basic ground rules should apply.
1. No overtaking on the hill (unless using a designated overtaking lane and it can be completed safely - following rules 2 and 3).
2. Keep to the 2 second rule on the hill (or 4 if wet / windy)
3. No crossing the centre line at any stage

Rule 1 - If you are stuck behind a slower rider - use it as the opportunity to provide advice on lines or admire their arse. By not overtaking you cannot scare the shit out of someone nor risk violating rule 3
Rule 2 - If anyone makes a mistake you aren't going to collect / write someone off
Rule 3 - If you do - you are riding beyond your ability or conditions.

Yes - rules suck and we have too many... but rules are needed for the arrogant or dumb providing safety for others. It seems people need reminding since this ride is open to anyone & seems to get one or 2 without common sense.

White trash
4th November 2010, 14:01
Rule 1 - If you are stuck behind a slower rider - use it as the opportunity to provide advice on lines or admire their arse.

Bags following Katie!!!!!!!


Three basic ground rules should apply.
1. No overtaking on the hill (unless using a designated overtaking lane and it can be completed safely - following rules 2 and 3).
2. Keep to the 2 second rule on the hill (or 4 if wet / windy)
3. No crossing the centre line at any stage

Rule 1 - If you are stuck behind a slower rider - use it as the opportunity to provide advice on lines or admire their arse. By not overtaking you cannot scare the shit out of someone nor risk violating rule 3
Rule 2 - If anyone makes a mistake you aren't going to collect / write someone off
Rule 3 - If you do - you are riding beyond your ability or conditions.

Yes - rules suck and we have too many... but rules are needed for the arrogant or dumb providing safety for others. It seems people need reminding since this ride is open to anyone & seems to get one or 2 without common sense.

Seriously though, if this is how the majority of regulars want to play it, then make it so. It may not need such "rule setting" at all though, maybe just a "Settle down or fuck off" speech.

Looks to me like you've found someone to take ownership (and there's a difference between ownership and responsibilty) folks, Dave looks like your man. With perhaps Hels for a bit of muscle when required :D

davebullet
4th November 2010, 14:13
Maybe the fuckoff speech would be enough. I know it's early days for summer, but there were a lot more bikes at the peak of TCWNR. I'm sure experiences have put a few off (Helen and Hans noted) for valid reasons. Would be nice to get these people back on and learn from them / build friendships (awwww group hug :love: )

I'd be happy to lay down the law when I am there, problem is I cannot commit to be there regularly ("the thumb" doth rule plus other commitments).

Rules posted above can be read out by anyone. I suggest one of the key members reads the F'off speech at the beginning. With a few of us in agreement (Eugene whilst he is here, or we could phone him in when he's moved to Aus, Katie, sels - any other regular) - I'm sure a consistent message could be pitched the start of the ride.

davebullet
4th November 2010, 14:15
PS: I don't have an ego, but I should be made president of something.

mattathm
4th November 2010, 14:51
Three basic ground rules should apply.
1. No overtaking on the hill (unless using a designated overtaking lane and it can be completed safely - following rules 2 and 3).
2. Keep to the 2 second rule on the hill (or 4 if wet / windy)
3. No crossing the centre line at any stage

Rule 1 - If you are stuck behind a slower rider - use it as the opportunity to provide advice on lines or admire their arse. By not overtaking you cannot scare the shit out of someone nor risk violating rule 3
Rule 2 - If anyone makes a mistake you aren't going to collect / write someone off
Rule 3 - If you do - you are riding beyond your ability or conditions.

Yes - rules suck and we have too many... but rules are needed for the arrogant or dumb providing safety for others. It seems people need reminding since this ride is open to anyone & seems to get one or 2 without common sense.

May I set the poor boy straight to all that are following this thread....

As always there are 2 sides to the story and so far we have only heard 1 from the guy that was coming the other way not wanting to go on the wednesday rides for his own reasons.
The other side of the story was told to me from the young boy riding as soon as he got off the bike at the pub he came straight up to me and said "I fucked up"
I said what did you do, and he said "I was following a real slow lady driver in a car and I thought the road was clear ahead, so I pulled out to overtake her, and at that moment is when another bike came the other way, so i quickly pulled back in again" I said hmmm thats wasnt such a good move and he agreed.

Assuming it wasnt done at speed as he was stuck behind a slow driver, and didnt intentionally mean to pull out and cause a near miss between 2 bikes, by now I think hes realised it wasnt such a good move.

He is young and rides a 250 and the rides are for low experience riders and cruisers, so looking at what happened, I reckon he was on the correct ride.
A: He is now that little more experienced.....
B: Im sure hes learnt from this episode and wont attempt another dumb passing manoeuver unless he is certain the way is clear.
C: NO ONE can control what a single rider does on his own bike when he is on a public road, it is up to the individual to ride responsibly and carefully to the best of their ability.

So lets not judge a rider or even the whole wednesday night ride because of a small incident (which could have turned nasty, but didnt) from 1 rider.

Lets all learn from the mistake and move on.

Like katie pie said she's never had a problem, Ive never had a problem on the rides either.

Last week did we call the 675 man a COCK for running off the road because he didnt take a corner?

and 1 question for Hans.... Have you EVER made a bad decision in your motorcycling career?? (if you say no your are lying... if you say yes shall we call you a cock and never ride with you again?)

lets move on from this, He didnt mean to do it intentionally!

mattathm
4th November 2010, 14:52
Bags following Katie!!!!!!!


:D

Your just trying to follow Rule:1 the 2nd 1/2 arent you!!:yes:

Hans
4th November 2010, 14:53
Don't know what you could learn from me... Off to TSS now and I've printed the last 3 pages off for him so he can have a read :-)

Hans
4th November 2010, 15:05
May I set the poor boy straight to all that are following this thread....

As always there are 2 sides to the story and so far we have only heard 1 from the guy that was coming the other way not wanting to go on the wednesday rides for his own reasons.
The other side of the story was told to me from the young boy riding as soon as he got off the bike at the pub he came straight up to me and said "I fucked up"
I said what did you do, and he said "I was following a real slow lady driver in a car and I thought the road was clear ahead, so I pulled out to overtake her, and at that moment is when another bike came the other way, so i quickly pulled back in again" I said hmmm thats wasnt such a good move and he agreed.

Assuming it wasnt done at speed as he was stuck behind a slow driver, and didnt intentionally mean to pull out and cause a near miss between 2 bikes, by now I think hes realised it wasnt such a good move.

He is young and rides a 250 and the rides are for low experience riders and cruisers, so looking at what happened, I reckon he was on the correct ride.
A: He is now that little more experienced.....
B: Im sure hes learnt from this episode and wont attempt another dumb passing manoeuver unless he is certain the way is clear.
C: NO ONE can control what a single rider does on his own bike when he is on a public road, it is up to the individual to ride responsibly and carefully to the best of their ability.

So lets not judge a rider or even the whole wednesday night ride because of a small incident (which could have turned nasty, but didnt) from 1 rider.

Lets all learn from the mistake and move on.

Like katie pie said she's never had a problem, Ive never had a problem on the rides either.

Last week did we call the 675 man a COCK for running off the road because he didnt take a corner?

and 1 question for Hans.... Have you EVER made a bad decision in your motorcycling career?? (if you say no your are lying... if you say yes shall we call you a cock and never ride with you again?)

lets move on from this, He didnt mean to do it intentionally!

Not at speed? So a closing speed of 120-140 isn't enough? Screw me with a barge pole. No one is calling Cloggy anything because he made a technical error which nearly cost HIM. The other guy made a bad call that could've cost me. I've made plenty of errors. None of them ever endangered anyone but myself. It's called TIME AND PLACE. The difference should be obvious.

White trash
4th November 2010, 15:12
Don't know what you could learn from me... Off to TSS now and I've printed the last 3 pages off for him so he can have a read :-)

I'm sure he'll appreciate the opportunity to appologise in person.

Go easy on a young feel eh?

carbonhed
4th November 2010, 15:15
Go easy on a young feel eh?

Crikey! What did you do to him?

White trash
4th November 2010, 15:16
Crikey! What did you do to him?

Fella <tenchars/>

davebullet
4th November 2010, 15:26
May I set the poor boy straight to all that are following this thread....

As always there are 2 sides to the story and so far we have only heard 1 from the guy that was coming the other way not wanting to go on the wednesday rides for his own reasons.
The other side of the story was told to me from the young boy riding as soon as he got off the bike at the pub he came straight up to me and said "I fucked up"
I said what did you do, and he said "I was following a real slow lady driver in a car and I thought the road was clear ahead, so I pulled out to overtake her, and at that moment is when another bike came the other way, so i quickly pulled back in again" I said hmmm thats wasnt such a good move and he agreed.

Assuming it wasnt done at speed as he was stuck behind a slow driver, and didnt intentionally mean to pull out and cause a near miss between 2 bikes, by now I think hes realised it wasnt such a good move.

He is young and rides a 250 and the rides are for low experience riders and cruisers, so looking at what happened, I reckon he was on the correct ride.
A: He is now that little more experienced.....
B: Im sure hes learnt from this episode and wont attempt another dumb passing manoeuver unless he is certain the way is clear.
C: NO ONE can control what a single rider does on his own bike when he is on a public road, it is up to the individual to ride responsibly and carefully to the best of their ability.

So lets not judge a rider or even the whole wednesday night ride because of a small incident (which could have turned nasty, but didnt) from 1 rider.

Lets all learn from the mistake and move on.

Like katie pie said she's never had a problem, Ive never had a problem on the rides either.

Last week did we call the 675 man a COCK for running off the road because he didnt take a corner?

and 1 question for Hans.... Have you EVER made a bad decision in your motorcycling career?? (if you say no your are lying... if you say yes shall we call you a cock and never ride with you again?)

lets move on from this, He didnt mean to do it intentionally!

Yes there are 2 sides, but only one is right. - ok just kidding.

I suppose if people are part of a group ride - they need to follow rules of the ride - fair enough?

He might have learnt - but what about the next new guy that comes along without any basic rules for a group ride? Same thing again...

It's good the dude apologised - didn't know the rider, so couldn't direct the apology etc... I'm sure he learned.

Let's cut that off at the chase.

Had he not crossed the centre line - no issue. Basic rule upfront.

I know there are heaps of people that know when to overtake on the 'takas over the double yellows when you know the road, visibility like the back of your hand.... I have one particular bend I'll do that on - but won't do it with group rides of unfamiliar riders

Anyone signing up to the wednesday night ride needs to put that out the window - as skill levels are unknown of fellow riders (different people come and go). Therefore sane maximums make sense (the 3 rules - like the 3 sacred scrolls).

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 15:37
Matt - this aint just about the guy last night. Its been going on for aaages now and this just highlights yet another incident.
The rides were set up for a purpose and I would love to see Bruce's memory honoured not shit on like it is now.

Hans
4th November 2010, 16:01
Ok. We've sorted it out in person. Let's speak of that particular incident no more.

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 16:02
Ok. We've sorted it out in person. Let's speak of that particular incident no more.

Good to hear!

carbonhed
4th November 2010, 16:27
Seems weird to me that 90% of the discussion on this incident is from people who have either never or seldom even bothered to show up for the ride. Plus it's about a beginner who I don't even recall riding with before.

I actually caught up with the guy on the way back over the hill and he was ringing the nuts of that little bike... which is cool but... there's nothing in reserve and erratic would be an understatement. ADHD on wheels. He just needs to calm the fuck down and ride predictably when he's in a big bunch with strangers.

The regulars seem to manage to sort themselves out into a pecking order based on speed and intent and there's usually hardly any overtaking anyway... unless you're waved through.

The problem seems to arise when we've got newbs down the back who want to demonstrate their madskills by carving up the slower riders. Unfortunately we're only reacting with outrage when it's happened rather than being proactive and laying down the law beforehand.

I hate rules and as for Hels taking charge...IMHO don't call us we'll call you.

What about a statement of intent before each ride?

This is not a race.
We all want to get home safely.
Don't let your ego take control.
When you're riding in a bunch ride smoothly and predictably.
If you're fast go towards the front of the group. If you get caught behind slower riders just chill the fuck out and look after them. Maybe you can offer some helpful advice at the Royal.
All the responsibilty for the overtake lies with the overtaker.
We all want to get home safely.
This is not a race.


Much as I love just turning up and riding with mates I know and trust (except Cloggy :msn-wink:) we'd probably better sort something out before the good weather brings out the hordes.

My2c.

James Deuce
4th November 2010, 16:31
Hey. Carbonhed. Pure comedy. That's meant to be satirical, right?

carbonhed
4th November 2010, 16:41
Hey. Carbonhed. Pure comedy. That's meant to be satirical, right?

91% :niceone:

_STAIN_
4th November 2010, 16:41
Seems weird to me that 90% of the discussion on this incident is from people who have either never or seldom even bothered to show up for the ride. Plus it's about a beginner who I don't even recall riding with before.



+1 from another regular rider...

Hans
4th November 2010, 16:48
Hey. Carbonhed. Pure comedy. That's meant to be satirical, right?

I hope so. @Carbonhed: Maybe these people used to turn up at the WNR before it became like it was last year. Maybe some of these people used to turn up for 4-5 years solid before you even joined KB. Maybe one of the figures connected with the ride died on the same weekend as two other riders. These other two were involved in a head-on. Join the dots to see why this whole thing might be an issue close to the hearts of some of the people you refer to.

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 16:58
I hope so. @Carbonhed: Maybe these people used to turn up at the WNR before it became like it was last year. Maybe some of these people used to turn up for 4-5 years solid before you even joined KB. Maybe one of the figures connected with the ride died on the same weekend as two other riders. These other two were involved in a head-on. Join the dots to see why this whole thing might be an issue close to the hearts of some of the people you refer to.

Yes, maybe we were there from the beginning and rode them for a few years maybe we used to help organise them.

Don't worry carbonhead, I don't intend on coming along with attitudes such as yours. I really don't want to have to scoop someone off the road.

mattathm
4th November 2010, 17:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

Str8 Jacket
4th November 2010, 17:17
You not riding tonight Matty?

mattathm
4th November 2010, 17:31
Nope. Wouldn't want to get labeled as irresponsible !
Or is that too late?

carbonhed
4th November 2010, 18:26
Don't worry carbonhead, I don't intend on coming along with attitudes such as yours.

Devastated... but... must....... go.......... on..................................

Which part of my attitude didn't you like?

The acknowledgement that we could have a problem?

The analysis of that problem?

A proposed solution for that problem?

Discussing it with the people concerned and hoping for feedback?

Not holding you in the same high regard you hold yourself?

Yes I've ridden TCWNR quite regularly over the last few years and the only person who's spooked me is Russ on the Harley. I can imagine getting taken out by him... or some newb who hasn't picked up on the vibe of the ride. So maybe we should make it explicit.

John_H
4th November 2010, 19:15
RANT FOLLOWS: I generally don't do group rides, because of the questionable attitude of some and because I enjoy riding at my pace. AM I NOT SAFE FROM SOME CRETINS ANYWHERE? As I was riding back over the hill today, I was nearly taken out by some MORON ON A YELLOW HYOSUNG, who clearly doesn't know where his side of the road is and that you don't pass on a blind corner. Yes he was part of TCWNR. YOU COCK. I was tempted to turn around and head back to the Royal to duke it out. Alas, I am older and maybe wiser than I once was. Tone it down you muppet, you know who you are, there was only one yellow Hyo on the ride. RANT ENDS. Hope the rest of you enjoyed the ride.

I saw this exact incident and you're within your rights to be pissed at the bike in question.

John_H
4th November 2010, 19:27
Nothing wrong with riding at the back part of the passage (doesn't sound right for some reason.... :lol: ). Hey I was really at the back and didn't see you guys for dust! - ok with me though.

I go 40 on the rear and 36 on front. Seems to work nicely for me.

davebullet
4th November 2010, 19:52
Cheers John.

Checked tonight - back had dropped to 36. Front still 36 - that will teach me. USed to the SV which drops one pound per month!

davebullet
4th November 2010, 19:53
Devastated... but... must....... go.......... on..................................

Which part of my attitude didn't you like?

The acknowledgement that we could have a problem?

The analysis of that problem?

A proposed solution for that problem?

Discussing it with the people concerned and hoping for feedback?

Not holding you in the same high regard you hold yourself?

Yes I've ridden TCWNR quite regularly over the last few years and the only person who's spooked me is Russ on the Harley. I can imagine getting taken out by him... or some newb who hasn't picked up on the vibe of the ride. So maybe we should make it explicit.

How old are you?

davebullet
4th November 2010, 19:58
What about a statement of intent before each ride?

This is not a race.
We all want to get home safely.
Don't let your ego take control.
When you're riding in a bunch ride smoothly and predictably.
If you're fast go towards the front of the group. If you get caught behind slower riders just chill the fuck out and look after them. Maybe you can offer some helpful advice at the Royal.
All the responsibilty for the overtake lies with the overtaker.
We all want to get home safely.
This is not a race.

All relative and useless I'm afraid (and too many). Agree with the caught behind the slower rider, but everything else isn't practical.

When you have the attention of a group - less is more. Do it with fewer hard and fast rules. My 3 would be enough.

carbonhed
4th November 2010, 20:17
All relative and useless I'm afraid (and too many). Agree with the caught behind the slower rider, but everything else isn't practical.

When you have the attention of a group - less is more. Do it with fewer hard and fast rules. My 3 would be enough.


Fair enough but that's how I try to ride... and your rules mean you can't overtake a car all the way down to Featherston... and you can cram that right up your arse. :yes:

davebullet
4th November 2010, 20:27
Fair enough but that's how I try to ride... and your rules mean you can't overtake a car all the way down to Featherston... and you can cram that right up your arse. :yes:

As mentioned, experienced riders know where to overtake safely. Problem is the newbie behinds you sees you do it and thinks gee - I could probably do it to. Besides, it is meant to be the cruisy ride, yes?

Maybe we don't agree or I'm not very good at explaining the point. Either way continued discussion is pointless.

carbonhed
4th November 2010, 20:39
Maybe we don't agree or I'm not very good at explaining the point. Either way continued discussion is pointless.

Meh... continued discussion is only poinless if you're incapable of being persuaded.

mattathm
4th November 2010, 22:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I
:angry:

White trash
5th November 2010, 07:11
Nope. Wouldn't want to get labeled as irresponsible !
Or is that too late?

You irresponsinble cunt, you showed up on TRTNR anyway. :)

Even inspired the mighty 50 dollar GSX to do a wheelie :D

BuckBuck#1
5th November 2010, 08:38
From my blogg:
Wellington Wednesday Rides Next Spring Summer 2010-11 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/1367-Wellington-Wednesday-Rides-Next-Spring-Summer-2010-11)

Though I am no longer regularly riding, I am very pleased to see that a representative of BRONZ has taken up the challenge of the Tuesday evening rides for Learners and Restricted riders. In that regard I would like to think that Uncle B's legacy remains, albeit a Tuesday and not the original Wednesday.

Regarding the Wednesday rides, I think there is room for improvement. The blogg entry link above discusses several aspects.

Ride safe and enjoy the ride.

Hans
5th November 2010, 09:16
From my blogg:
Wellington Wednesday Rides Next Spring Summer 2010-11 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/1367-Wellington-Wednesday-Rides-Next-Spring-Summer-2010-11)

Though I am no longer regularly riding, I am very pleased to see that a representative of BRONZ has taken up the challenge of the Tuesday evening rides for Learners and Restricted riders. In that regard I would like to think that Uncle B's legacy remains, albeit a Tuesday and not the original Wednesday.

Regarding the Wednesday rides, I think there is room for improvement. The blogg entry link above discusses several aspects.

Ride safe and enjoy the ride.

Be prepared to get told to fuck off since you haven't been to the ride lately.

White trash
5th November 2010, 09:18
Be prepared to get told to fuck off since you haven't been to the ride lately.

You can fuck off too HairBear. You didn't even come on our safe and sedate ride last night :D

Hans
5th November 2010, 09:22
You can fuck off too HairBear. You didn't even come on our safe and sedate ride last night :D

Wait for eet... Get ready... HOMO! Bet you didn't see that coming.

Eyegasm
5th November 2010, 09:30
I never went to any of the Wednesday rides last year and the ones I have been on this year have all been great.

Maybe that is cos I stick to the back of the group due to being on a 250 and not wanting to hold anyone up.

I ride at a pace that suits me, sod anyone else. I have nothing to prove.

I will continue to attend these rides as the people I have ridden with before are a great bunch of guys and girls.

Plus some of the feedback I get is great and helpful.

Gone Burger
5th November 2010, 09:55
I never went to any of the Wednesday rides last year and the ones I have been on this year have all been great.

Maybe that is cos I stick to the back of the group due to being on a 250 and not wanting to hold anyone up.

I ride at a pace that suits me, sod anyone else. I have nothing to prove.

I will continue to attend these rides as the people I have ridden with before are a great bunch of guys and girls.

Plus some of the feedback I get is great and helpful.

Completely agree - have found these rides to be nothing but enjoyable, and have never been concerned for my safety because of others actions. I have also found that people DO stick to their own pace and ride their own ride. Very quickly the riders fall into a appropriate pecking order of thier own skill and speed, like Eyegasm and I both do.

The Tuesday night rides are wonderful for the learners, and more experienced riders to be able to help out when they can, the Thursday rides seem perfect for those riders who can handle the faster pace and need a good blat, but the Wednesday rides are a good in between. Can be cruisy if you choose them to be, or if you need to stretch your legs you are left to your own accord.

Last summer I looked forward to these rides greatly when I was still on my 250, and now on a bigger bike, enjoy them even more getting experience on the hill with a lot of riders that I can trust.

White trash
5th November 2010, 10:11
Can you do a wheelie yet Katie?

davebullet
5th November 2010, 10:20
Can you do a wheelie yet Katie?

Maybe that could be rule 4? :laugh:

Gone Burger
5th November 2010, 10:22
Can you do a wheelie yet Katie?

No I need you to teach me - that's why I dont qulify for Thursdays ;)

Perhaps that yellow CBR might be better then the m50 - or at least a friendlier landing? haha - yeah right, I'm far too fresh

ecko_nzed
5th November 2010, 13:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I
:angry:
comedic genius lol

Never had any problems on the weds nite ride. I'd probably be considered a regular if my bike was a bit more reliable. Sometimes I ride near the front, other times I'm happy to be TEC. In the absence of a lot of rules "most" people exercise common sense. If they don't, they generally get the message loud and clear from a quiet chat, or a more direct "Tone it down or FUCK OFF". This was poor judgement by the guy involved and I'm sure he now has the message loud and clear. I hope he comes back as we have a great community of riders with a wide variety of backgrounds and skill levels.

If people want to remind everyone about the use of common sense and courtesy at the start of each ride, then do it, don't just talk about it on the forum.

mattathm
5th November 2010, 13:57
I still love you guys and gals.............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Dv28kp4P0&feature=related
:woohoo:

WuZards-Eugene
5th November 2010, 14:00
I have been coming on these rides for quite a while now, and have also varied between going on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday night rides. Although I did not get the honor to meet Uncle B, I can see that what he has started has grown quite big and i'm sure he would be proud of it. As it stands now, there is quite a clear distinction between the rides where on:

Tuesdays; for those that are completely fresh, or are up for a slow pootle around are easily catered for, the route is clearly defined and a plan of action and breifing is put in place. Everyone knows they are in for a nana ride, and those who do not want to do so are told nicely to go somewhere else. What Buckbuck started here was a great thing, but was also percieved by many as an attack on the Wednesday, which it is certainly not.

Wednesdays; this has become more of a social ride, with any and all turning up for a jaunt over some hill, then gathering again for a good ole yak. As most attendees are now usually veterans of the Wednesdays, a sort of pecking order has been established, however this is not apparent to those that have just joined the ride. For this, it would be great to keep a similar pattern, where small groups of riders take off together to ride there own ride which pretty much is what is happening now. Newer riders should be told or asked to fit in with another group which is going at an acceptable pace so that they can get a feel for where they want to be in the ride. Although this started off as a learner friendly ride, most of those learners now have larger bikes, and come along for the social element, which can be seen by anyone turning up to the pond, seeing everyone around in small groups having a yarn. Less experienced and slower riders are most certainly welcome, and should be identifying themselves, and then pulled into a group. Newer riders quite often have the pressure of not being completely sure of where they are going, and seem to focus on keeping up with whatever is infront of them, contrary to riding their own ride. The biggest improvement that could be made to start off with, is a brief before we all leave, mainly to decide where we are going, as the question of where we are going is frequently asked, which is usually prompted by bikes starting up. I'll give this a try next week and see how it goes.

Thursdays; mostly experienced riders that are wanting to go for a blat, usually to the Royal in feathers. Those that are either inexperienced, or new are either told or already know that these rides are for the experienced and the pace is generally quite fast (percieved by some as stupidly fast or irresponsible etc etc homos :shit: ). Everyone rides in a responsible manor. Again, those on the ride are mearly riding their own ride, and theyre all tuff cunts too :Punk:


In regards to what happend with Hans, this was due to a riders misjudgement/bad decision, and in the end, the rider in question got the shits scared out of him, and then got some firm words from the reciever (or atleast im guessing it was firm words). He knew what he had done, and (apparently) accepted responsibility for his actions What Hans has gone and done is the right thing to do, and anyone making similar errors in judgement should be spoken to, rather than moaned about. All three of these group rides bring out various riders, and quite often there may be one that makes irrational decisions that lead to possible destruction. One thing to be aware about is that these people are out there, and are not always in a big group to lay blame on. In every incident or accident there is always two factors: Rider control and Rider decisions. Just being blunt here but cloggy's incident (no offence cloggy, just an example) can be applied just as any other. An error of judgement was made, causing a loss of control, and had it been a corner going the other way, this could then have been a bike heading straight for you because of a bad decision. Some of you say thats different, but in my eyes its not. If I ran wide on a corner, and hit another bike/car/truck/flying saucer I would hold myself responsible, just the same if I tried to overtake and something was coming towards me, or if I ended up in the only patch of mud in a ditch on the side of the road.

White trash
5th November 2010, 14:08
IThursdays; mostly experienced riders that are wanting to go for a blat, usually to the Royal in feathers. Those that are either inexperienced, or new are either told or already know that these rides are for the experienced and the pace is generally quite fast (percieved by some as stupidly fast or irresponsible etc etc homos :shit: ). Everyone rides in a responsible manor. Again, those on the ride are mearly riding their own ride.


You forgot that we're all tuff cunts too.

ecko_nzed
5th November 2010, 14:50
The biggest improvement that could be made to start off with, is a brief before we all leave, mainly to decide where we are going, as the question of where we are going is frequently asked, which is usually prompted by bikes starting up. I'll give this a try next week and see how it goes.

Go Eugene :woohoo:, you sir are a tuffest of the tuff cunts :bash: Top idea! I'd offer to help, but essentially I'm lazy :zzzz:

Dodgy
5th November 2010, 15:24
Sadly, I have only had the time to come along on one Wed ride. Being straight after work, I had the korean squid boat lookalike FJ with a rack bag full of laptop and shite.

No problem that evening with the pace and behaviour. Some people wanted to do wheelies all the way up the Hutt Road and throw stoppies into the mix. Fair enough. If I had taken the R1 I could have played along, or just cruised.. Same deal over the hill, there seemed to be a self established order and the ones up the front were free to play silly buggers and the less experienced/ more mellow/shitbox FJ riders could hang down the back.

Certainly not as bad as the old VMCC days when I once counted four bikes trashed during the day as people outbraked, ran off and generally terrified and bashed the local scenery. Then the day finished with a coasting race down the hill. :blink:

White trash
5th November 2010, 15:42
Then the day finished with a coasting race down the hill. :blink:

Ohhh hfuck, you've just reminded me. Awesome idea for a ride coming up.

WuZards-Eugene
5th November 2010, 15:55
I had the korean squid boat lookalike FJ with a rack bag full of laptop and shite.


oh my god you sound like my twin brother, now i just need to know if you're good or evil :yes:

Weaver
5th November 2010, 15:58
I have been coming on these rides for quite a while now, and have also varied between going on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday night rides. Although I did not get the honor to meet Uncle B, I can see that what he has started has grown quite big and i'm sure he would be proud of it. As it stands now, there is quite a clear distinction between the rides where on:

Tuesdays; for those that are completely fresh, or are up for a slow pootle around are easily catered for, the route is clearly defined and a plan of action and breifing is put in place. Everyone knows they are in for a nana ride, and those who do not want to do so are told nicely to go somewhere else. What Buckbuck started here was a great thing, but was also percieved by many as an attack on the Wednesday, which it is certainly not.

Wednesdays; this has become more of a social ride, with any and all turning up for a jaunt over some hill, then gathering again for a good ole yak. As most attendees are now usually veterans of the Wednesdays, a sort of pecking order has been established, however this is not apparent to those that have just joined the ride. For this, it would be great to keep a similar pattern, where small groups of riders take off together to ride there own ride which pretty much is what is happening now. Newer riders should be told or asked to fit in with another group which is going at an acceptable pace so that they can get a feel for where they want to be in the ride. Although this started off as a learner friendly ride, most of those learners now have larger bikes, and come along for the social element, which can be seen by anyone turning up to the pond, seeing everyone around in small groups having a yarn. Less experienced and slower riders are most certainly welcome, and should be identifying themselves, and then pulled into a group. Newer riders quite often have the pressure of not being completely sure of where they are going, and seem to focus on keeping up with whatever is infront of them, contrary to riding their own ride. The biggest improvement that could be made to start off with, is a brief before we all leave, mainly to decide where we are going, as the question of where we are going is frequently asked, which is usually prompted by bikes starting up. I'll give this a try next week and see how it goes.

Thursdays; mostly experienced riders that are wanting to go for a blat, usually to the Royal in feathers. Those that are either inexperienced, or new are either told or already know that these rides are for the experienced and the pace is generally quite fast (percieved by some as stupidly fast or irresponsible etc etc homos :shit: ). Everyone rides in a responsible manor. Again, those on the ride are mearly riding their own ride, and theyre all tuff cunts too :Punk:


In regards to what happend with Hans, this was due to a riders misjudgement/bad decision, and in the end, the rider in question got the shits scared out of him, and then got some firm words from the reciever (or atleast im guessing it was firm words). He knew what he had done, and (apparently) accepted responsibility for his actions What Hans has gone and done is the right thing to do, and anyone making similar errors in judgement should be spoken to, rather than moaned about. All three of these group rides bring out various riders, and quite often there may be one that makes irrational decisions that lead to possible destruction. One thing to be aware about is that these people are out there, and are not always in a big group to lay blame on. In every incident or accident there is always two factors: Rider control and Rider decisions. Just being blunt here but cloggy's incident (no offence cloggy, just an example) can be applied just as any other. An error of judgement was made, causing a loss of control, and had it been a corner going the other way, this could then have been a bike heading straight for you because of a bad decision. Some of you say thats different, but in my eyes its not. If I ran wide on a corner, and hit another bike/car/truck/flying saucer I would hold myself responsible, just the same if I tried to overtake and something was coming towards me, or if I ended up in the only patch of mud in a ditch on the side of the road.


Shit man, you'd better have a protein bar after that effort.

carbonhed
5th November 2010, 16:51
Shit man, you'd better have a protein bar after that effort.

:laugh:

Most excellent analysis Eugene!

Hans
5th November 2010, 18:22
:laugh:

Most excellent analysis Eugene!

I concur. I reckon that about sums it up. I may have overrected somewhat...

davebullet
5th November 2010, 18:25
I concur. I reckon that about sums it up. I may have overrected somewhat...

No you didn't If it stops him making the same mistake again. He'll think twice next time - saving his neck and others.

Hans
5th November 2010, 18:28
No you didn't If it stops him making the same mistake again. He'll think twice next time - saving his neck and others.

I didn't mean the incident itself. He certainly deserved to be pulled up on that. I meant the carry-on about the ride.

sels1
5th November 2010, 20:07
Seems weird to me that 90% of the discussion on this incident is from people who have either never or seldom even bothered to show up for the ride.
Ha...mate, this happens around this time every year, (believe me, Ive been doing the ride since its inception) There are certain people, who, for reason of ego and/or post count, feel the need to poke their oar in and pass judement on something they know little about. Ignore them, they dont tend to get much traction and eventually go away.

WuZards-Eugene
5th November 2010, 20:20
Shit man, you'd better have a protein bar after that effort.

I was bored and someone needs to make sense on here :gob:

James Deuce
5th November 2010, 20:45
Ha...mate, this happens around this time every year, (believe me, Ive been doing the ride since its inception) There are certain people, who, for reason of ego and/or post count, feel the need to poke their oar in and pass judement on something they know little about. Ignore them, they dont tend to get much traction and eventually go away.
Actually it's the inevitable hospital visits and fatalities, but bah, what do I know?

carbonhed
6th November 2010, 09:19
Actually it's the inevitable hospital visits and fatalities, but bah, what do I know?

How are your injuries progressing JD?

carbonhed
6th November 2010, 09:24
I concur. I reckon that about sums it up. I may have overrected somewhat...

Now that's classy...but you certainly had reason to be upset.

On the other hand... how often do you get to find the miscreant and extract vengeance :laugh:

Str8 Jacket
6th November 2010, 11:07
Ha...mate, this happens around this time every year, (believe me, Ive been doing the ride since its inception) There are certain people, who, for reason of ego and/or post count, feel the need to poke their oar in and pass judement on something they know little about. Ignore them, they dont tend to get much traction and eventually go away.

Yes, we do. And yes, we will stay away. It's a shame that friendships had to be ruined over differing points of view but tis the way of the world.

I still stand by my point that no respect has been shown to Bruce's memory to even try and keep the spirit of what the ride was invented for.

FYI - I don't actually give a fuck of what anyone thinks of me or my opinions so flame away if ya'll must..... l :facepalm:

Weaver
10th November 2010, 13:04
As of eleven o'clock this morning, when I last went over the 'Takas, there was alot of debris on the road. This shouldn't pose a problem at a cruisy pace though.

Bald Eagle
10th November 2010, 13:07
I was bored and someone needs to make sense on here :gob:

This is KB - sense is not required :facepalm:

Gareth51
10th November 2010, 15:01
Looks Like a good night for a race over the hill and back

Will leave Kapiti Mobil at 5.15

carbonhed
10th November 2010, 15:24
Looks Like a good night for a race over the hill and back

Will leave Kapiti Mobil at 5.15

Might be running a little later than that.

girlzchris
10th November 2010, 21:49
awesome ride.... thanks...

sinned
11th November 2010, 06:00
It was an nice cruisy ride. I ran the video the whole way hoping to catch something exciting and nothing - damm :gob:

Gareth51
11th November 2010, 06:22
It was an nice cruisy ride. I ran the video the whole way hoping to catch something exciting and nothing - damm :gob:

I'm glad I wasn't riding in front of you.....must remember to cover number plate next time.

Weaver
11th November 2010, 09:28
I'm glad I wasn't riding in front of you.....must remember to cover number plate next time.

:facepalm: Fail

Matey
11th November 2010, 16:47
yep, nice cruisy ride alright. Best ride of the night goes to the fat bloke on the bicycle going down Paekak hill.I clocked him pushing 70kph at one point.

MadDuck
11th November 2010, 19:00
Great ride and nice to meet some of you lot. Thats the fastest I have ever been over Piecock Hill thats for sure :scooter:

And I now have a new ride briefing I am really looking forward to using up this end of the country....thanks Eugene. :sunny:

White trash
17th November 2010, 13:39
Great ride and nice to meet some of you lot. Thats the fastest I have ever been over Piecock Hill thats for sure :scooter:

And I now have a new ride briefing I am really looking forward to using up this end of the country....thanks Eugene. :sunny:

Fuck you MadDuck. Next time you're down and don't come say "Hi", I'll put my foot in your ass. Damn it. At least Matt came saw me :(

Anyway. After that little rant, I feel like a cruisy ride tonight. See you folk at the Dukie Pond.

Quasi
17th November 2010, 19:54
Until we got caught behind the popo, and after we cleared him, Katies mate driving a huge truck and trailer on the hill kept us at a VERY slow pace.

Well some of us - apparently the race team got past and had a smokin hot ride over. Everyone got to the other side safely and was a great bunch of people to chat with, as always.
And well done to Bryce for looking after our new rider:yes:. Nice to meet you Emilio

John_H
17th November 2010, 20:00
Fantastic ride over tonight and an even better ride back. There I was thinking I was going pretty quick when the bloke on the bike pictured flew past me. Man, he can ride that bike fast!

ecko_nzed
18th November 2010, 06:27
Fantastic ride over tonight and an even better ride back. There I was thinking I was going pretty quick when the bloke on the bike pictured flew past me. Man, he can ride that bike fast!

Apologies if I didn't give you a wide enough berth. Fast is subjective. People were riding faster than me last nite. As long as we all give each other enough room and know our own limits.

John_H
18th November 2010, 07:16
Apologies if I didn't give you a wide enough berth. Fast is subjective. People were riding faster than me last nite. As long as we all give each other enough room and know our own limits.

No you gave me plenty of room. It wasn't a criticism, I was just impressed with how well you were handling the bike.

White trash
18th November 2010, 07:40
Apologies if I didn't give you a wide enough berth. Fast is subjective. People were riding faster than me last nite. As long as we all give each other enough room and know our own limits.


No you gave me plenty of room. It wasn't a criticism, I was just impressed with how well you were handling the bike.

+1 You were hauling on the RVF mate. Seemed nice and tidy and well within your own lane.

Nice ride last night all, thanks for the company. Good to meet some new people, catch up with some I haven't seen for a while and even bury a hatchet or two. I'm also fast becoming an R6 convert :facepalm:

Deano
18th November 2010, 07:47
Ecko - nice work on the West paint bro !!

Can you bring it out again tonight so I can see it close up ?

Gone Burger
18th November 2010, 08:09
I'm also fast becoming an R6 convert :facepalm:

Same here Jimmy! Pretty nice bike huh?

And sorry about the truck and trailer. "Woody" gives his apologies and it seems the new braking system installed that day on the trailerstage actually work for the first time! lol He was a very nervous driver testing out that load for the first time, and feels stink for holding us up.

Great ride again folks - thanks. Got to ride the CBR600 on the way back for a bit and had a blast. And guess what...? I could touch the ground haha!

White trash
18th November 2010, 08:25
Same here Jimmy! Pretty nice bike huh?


You're welcome to ride it any time mate. Would have done that swap with you last night but I don't ride other peoples bikes.

Deano
18th November 2010, 08:29
You're welcome to ride it any time mate. Would have done that swap with you last night but I don't ride other peoples bikes.

Mmmm, I seem to recall a stand up wheelie on my old SP1 at the sprints ? Wasn't that you ?

White trash
18th November 2010, 08:32
Mmmm, I seem to recall a stand up wheelie on my old SP1 at the sprints ? Wasn't that you ?

Oh fuck, that's right. I'd forgotten I rode that thing. Didn't I go faster than you on it? :Pokey:

Deano
18th November 2010, 08:51
Oh fuck, that's right. I'd forgotten I rode that thing. Didn't I go faster than you on it? :Pokey:

Oh I thought it was quite memorable for you at the time...better than a Prilia you said LOL

Umm, yeah you went a few K's quicker - but you are lighter and more aerodynamic than me.......see I have an excuse book too bro !!

Darryn
18th November 2010, 19:49
Great to head over from Kapiti with Carbonhed for the first time in a while and meet so many familiar friendly faces :drinknsin Always cool to meet some new ones to. Neat bunch of people to ride with and fun night had. Got absolutely clobbered with bugs on the way home over Paekakariki hill. Amazing thing, if you shift your helmet position a little your can find a 1 cm square gap to see through with one eye closed.
Catch you guys next time and thanks :2thumbsup

ecko_nzed
18th November 2010, 20:03
Ecko - nice work on the West paint bro !!

Can you bring it out again tonight so I can see it close up ?
Got the billy lids this week so can only get out on Wednesday :weep::weep:


+1 You were hauling on the RVF mate. Seemed nice and tidy and well within your own lane.

Nice ride last night all, thanks for the company. Good to meet some new people, catch up with some I haven't seen for a while and even bury a hatchet or two. I'm also fast becoming an R6 convert :facepalm:
Cheers, felt like I was goin backwards following you on the R6. Bet dukie got the hurry up

Quasi
24th November 2010, 07:07
see you all at the duckie. Its totally magic in the Rapa:sunny:
Wear a yellow ribbon to suport the Pike River miners

girlzchris
24th November 2010, 10:06
see you all at the duckie. Its totally magic in the Rapa:sunny:
Wear a yellow ribbon to suport the Pike River miners

sweeet as.. my bike is yellow anyway... see you at the duck duck pond...

Gareth51
24th November 2010, 20:38
42 bikes lined up at the duckpond to nite for another good race over the hill

Weaver
24th November 2010, 20:40
How about that traffic! It sort of put a damper on the ride for me.
However I had a great feed thanks to Jimmy from TSS. Good man.

John_H
24th November 2010, 21:05
How about that traffic! It sort of put a damper on the ride for me.
However I had a great feed thanks to Jimmy from TSS. Good man.

Yeah good on ya jimmy. The trip back was a lot more fun with virtually no traffic.

Carla, where were ya, we missed you.

supremacy
24th November 2010, 22:01
Another nice ride, and cheers for the snags!
Apologies to those who had to wipe drool off their bikes

turtleman
24th November 2010, 22:10
Tagged along from the top of the hill - good to catch up with a couple of familiar faces !
Many more unfamiliar faces, but we'll try and rectify that next time :yes:

Might even make it to the duck pond for the start of the ride, if time and work permits :woohoo:

White trash
25th November 2010, 07:06
However I had a great feed thanks to Jimmy from TSS. Good man.


Yeah good on ya jimmy. The trip back was a lot more fun with virtually no traffic.


Another nice ride, and cheers for the snags!


Hey you're all very welcome guys, I'll try to do it again next week. Glad everyone enjoyed charcoal sausages as that's all I know how to cook. :D

spacemonkey
25th November 2010, 09:39
see you all at the duckie. Its totally magic in the Rapa:sunny:
Wear a yellow ribbon to suport the Pike River miners


So where were ya quasi??

Quasi
25th November 2010, 09:43
So where were ya quasi??

Hey Dave - the truth is that i found the sad outcome from Pike River so upsetting, that i just wanted to stay at home. There will always be days for me to get out and ride, and do the things I want to do. Those 29 men lost their opportunity to do what they want. It made me sad.

sels1
26th November 2010, 12:00
Hey Dave - the truth is that i found the sad outcome from Pike River so upsetting, that i just wanted to stay at home. There will always be days for me to get out and ride, and do the things I want to do. Those 29 men lost their opportunity to do what they want. It made me sad.

Indeed
I wasnt on the ride as I was working in Hokitika. Grim time to be on the Coast.

Biker Mice
30th November 2010, 16:50
So when it comes to cc, what is the limit on Wednesdays :scooter:

spacemonkey
30th November 2010, 17:11
Don't think it matters as long as you can hit and hold highways speeds??

Cloggy
30th November 2010, 17:16
So when it comes to cc, what is the limit on Wednesdays :scooter:
Size doesn't matter. Main pre-requisite is that you come to have a good time. :woohoo:

ecko_nzed
1st December 2010, 08:54
Size doesn't matter. Main pre-requisite is that you come to have a good time. :woohoo:
I'm sure some ladies would argue that a minimum size is required to have a good time :lol:. But clearly anything larger than a 400 is compensating for a deficiencies in other areas :p

mattathm
1st December 2010, 09:01
I'm sure some ladies would argue that a minimum size is required to have a good time :lol:. But clearly anything larger than a 400 is compensating for a deficiencies in other areas :p

Ill be checking the side of your engine case to see it doesnt say 399cc :corn:

_STAIN_
1st December 2010, 09:20
So when it comes to cc, what is the limit on Wednesdays :scooter:

If you can make it around squids corner you'll be ok on this ride, by the way you hold king of the hill as you got at least 3 times higher than Cloggy's effort, last Thursday night. Welcome to KB Ren :)

Drogen Omen
1st December 2010, 12:12
squids corner...

lol

squids...

Cloggy
1st December 2010, 20:32
If you can make it around squids corner you'll be ok on this ride, by the way you hold king of the hill as you got at least 3 times higher than Cloggy's effort, last Thursday night. Welcome to KB Ren :)
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