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cooneyr
17th November 2011, 14:42
........I've just emailed T7 about a bulk order. If they are happy to talk I'll post details here.

Cheers R

Just heard back. Won't do deal. If you want on the Torpedo 7 Roll chart holders get in quick. Offer closes at 10am on Friday (18th Nov).

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7TO4NNER

Cheers R

alane
18th November 2011, 07:24
A bit weird ---those one,s --I think.:weird:
The roll goes across it ---instead of longitude--illy.

SO---you would only see a small segment of the roll @ a time,and be turning it pretty often,where as ---the "Systema"--"Klippit---Click-clack" ,homebuilts ,with the roll going longways ,means you can see several segments @ a time ,& therefor have to scroll it less often.:niceone:

I have a "SISTEMA" 1 ltr--split. sits on the handlebar cross brace great.Just held down with two rubber loops bolted to either side.

I see the "warehouse" has 25% off "Klipit,s " this week for tightarses.:wings:

NordieBoy
18th November 2011, 07:41
A bit weird ---those one,s --I think.:weird:
The roll goes across it ---instead of longitude--illy.

SO---you would only see a small segment of the roll @ a time,and be turning it pretty often,where as ---the "Systema"--"Klippit---Click-clack" ,homebuilts ,with the roll going longways ,means you can see several segments @ a time ,& therefor have to scroll it less often.:niceone:

But that's the "normal" way.

Long-illy is just cheap and weird.

Taz
18th November 2011, 07:45
Sooo looking forward to this adventure. Very busy doing the physio on my left hand to get it ready. Just how many clutch pulls are required on this ride?

ADVGD
18th November 2011, 08:18
Sooo looking forward to this adventure. Very busy doing the physio on my left hand to get it ready. Just how many clutch pulls are required on this ride?

A Rekluse clutch could be the go to remove the repetitive clutch factor, this guy hardly shifts at all in this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjlsXNAElh0

A common perception is that an auto clutch is a disadvantage but as you'll see in one of the Rekluse vids they actually increase starts, cornering, lap times, aid in hill climbs and general all round performance plus it acts and responds exactly like a normal clutch anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RekluseMotorSports?blend=21&ob=5#p/u/5/FF3F2srvYPY

I can't comment yet, I've just installed one on my DRZ400 but haven't yet run the bike, those who install them though rave about them and won't go back to a standard clutch

cold comfort
18th November 2011, 10:19
A Rekluse clutch could be the go to remove the repetitive clutch factor, this guy hardly shifts at all in this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjlsXNAElh0

A common perception is that an auto clutch is a disadvantage but as you'll see in one of the Rekluse vids they actually increase starts, cornering, lap times, aid in hill climbs and general all round performance plus it acts and responds exactly like a normal clutch anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RekluseMotorSports?blend=21&ob=5#p/u/5/FF3F2srvYPY

I can't comment yet, I've just installed one on my DRZ400 but haven't yet run the bike, those who install them though rave about them and won't go back to a standard clutch

Where did you purchase this and what was the cost? The 450 i was looking at in the Nth Island (b4 i bought locally)had one on it apparently. Could be a big advantage from reducing strain on finger joints to avoiding repeated restarts.

ADVGD
18th November 2011, 11:12
Where did you purchase this and what was the cost? The 450 i was looking at in the Nth Island (b4 i bought locally)had one on it apparently. Could be a big advantage from reducing strain on finger joints to avoiding repeated restarts.

The only place you can purchase Rekluse products from NZ is Suttos in Australia > Link (http://www.suttosmc.com.au/index.php?option=com_rokecwid&Itemid=#ecwid:category=536515&inview=product3100833&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal). Good service. The price depends on if you want the EXP, Z-Start or Core EXP clutch

Box'a'bits
18th November 2011, 11:29
Mark_S to the white courtesy phone, Mark_S to the white courtesy phone.

Mark has one on the KLR & also his WR450.

Taz, I looked a while ago, and am fairly sure you could get a rekluse for the 640 at that stage..

NordieBoy
18th November 2011, 15:53
A common perception is that an auto clutch is a disadvantage but as you'll see in one of the Rekluse vids they actually increase starts, cornering, lap times, aid in hill climbs and general all round performance plus it acts and responds exactly like a normal clutch anyway
Stops you stalling too :shifty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G176RWqxTs

pete-blen
18th November 2011, 17:04
Those clutchs look good...
would like to try one...
could be perfect for me...

Taz
18th November 2011, 22:19
I bought a Rekluse clutch years ago for my YZF250 for mx and trail riding. Worked great. Came out of the states for about $900. Didn't bother with a clutch lever. Was going to mount the rear brake on the clutch side but smashed my ankle and then sold the bike.

Padmei
19th November 2011, 07:19
I bought a Rekluse clutch years ago for my YZF250 for mx and trail riding. Worked great. Came out of the states for about $900. Didn't bother with a clutch lever. Was going to mount the rear brake on the clutch side but smashed my ankle and then sold the bike.

Are there any bones left unbroken on your body?

Woodman
19th November 2011, 07:26
Whats a clutch?

Taz
19th November 2011, 07:45
Are there any bones left unbroken on your body?

Hey that's unfair! :bleh: Only broken an 2 ankles (7 screws in one about 5 years and the other thanks to Cary in the 90's, who the f@#k stops for a little puddle???) and a finger (1 screw) so far. All been on dirt bikes.:baby: Road bikes are safe as.

NordieBoy
19th November 2011, 11:27
Whats a clutch?

What's a bump stop?

buggsubique
20th November 2011, 19:16
Well, now that the AT's carbs are sorted I'm lookin at being a starter for the ride again...as long as the Army doesn't have other short notice plans come the new year <_<. Ferry tickets booked.

Crim
24th November 2011, 14:00
Linton at DAS asked me to bump the thread and remind any potential customers to get their A into G so he can supply what you need for the Dusty :niceone:

Transalper
24th November 2011, 14:12
Probably be quite a good place for the Northerners to arrange tyres for their trips on the way through or back too if they are going to need them.
http://dasmoto.co.nz/contact-us

timg
24th November 2011, 17:54
Linton at DAS asked me to bump the thread and remind any potential customers to get their A into G so he can supply what you need for the Dusty :niceone: Yup, just got mine this week :innocent:

Taz
24th November 2011, 20:17
I just found a new pirelli MT70 130/80x18. I thought these were extinct. Tyres sorted for DB1K now. Just tidying up the 640's wiring. They use some pretty thin wires on these ktm's. Have found some that are happily rubbing them selves away so have installed the anti rub technology...

Transalper
27th November 2011, 09:57
Challenge vs main routes....
Watching the list of bikes on the db1k.com rider list (http://www.db1k.com/riders.php) I see there's still mostly mid sized and smaller bikes registered, is everyone going for the challenges this year?
Still intending to go two up so it will be main route only for me this round and I believe SBM on his 650TA is doing the main loop too (not the Awakino at least) so who else is just cruising on the main route?


<iframe src="http://free.timeanddate.com/countdown/i2ttuqk6/n951/cf12/cm0/cu4/ct0/cs0/ca0/cr0/ss0/cac000/cpc000/pcfff/tcfff/fs100/szw320/szh135/tatTime%20left%20to%20DB1K%20Gladstone%20gathering/tac000/tptTime%20since%20Event%20started%20in/tpc000/mac000/mpc000/iso2012-01-20T17:00:00" frameborder="0" width="356" height="68"></iframe>
(As before it's Chch time zone but gathering in Fairlie) :wait:
77 riders on the list now.
(61 with a big green tick)

Waihou Thumper
27th November 2011, 15:15
Challenge vs main routes....
Watching the list of bikes on the db1k.com rider list (http://www.db1k.com/riders.php) I see there's still mostly mid sized and smaller bikes registered, is everyone going for the challenges this year?


DAMN right! :woohoo:
The videos of the challenge loops make it a must! Thanks for helping to decide on what bike to wreck :)
I hopefully will be making it south and will know for sure in the New Year. By that time, I will have taken ALL the plastics off, bought new Knobblies, done a few oil changes and updated my first aid kit with EPIRB and AED :)
Tent, sleeping bag and few packets of OSM should last the distance. As for me? Hmm...:eek5:

dino3310
28th November 2011, 10:02
DAMN right! :woohoo:
updated my first aid kit with EPIRB and AED :)
Tent, sleeping bag and few packets of OSM should last the distance. As for me? Hmm...:eek5:

What!!! No Bourbon:crazy:

Aslan
28th November 2011, 18:46
Challenge vs main routes....
Watching the list of bikes on the db1k.com rider list (http://www.db1k.com/riders.php) I see there's still mostly mid sized and smaller bikes registered, is everyone going for the challenges this year?
Still intending to go two up so it will be main route only for me this round and I believe SBM on his 650TA is doing the main loop too (not the Awakino at least) so who else is just cruising on the main route?




Hi TA (& others who may intend on giving the Challenge Sections a 'skip' this year - I don't plan on doing the Challenge Sections - getting too old (and believe it's unfair on those who help me pick up my bike n times) - thanks Rogson for the 5 times you helped me pick up my DR on the Awakino Saddle - cheers Aslan

Crim
28th November 2011, 19:34
G'day
Got a new job confirmed today, great stuff I hear you say :blink: well in some ways it is in other ways it is a total bugger :facepalm: cos I have now confirmed a Jan 16 start with me away the DB1K weekend double :facepalm: or should that be :facepalm::facepalm:

Anyway I was organised this year and have a single room at the Gladstone for Fri / Sun night and a single cabin in the Alex campground so if anyone wants their accomodation given to them on a plate drop me a PM

I will be going on a pre DB1k ride - thinking maybe a night or two camping up in the South Island somewhere prior to Jan 16 (so I can at least get a decent ride in) so if anyone is keen, again, drop me a PM

One last final :facepalm:

Crim

Eddieb
28th November 2011, 19:50
G'day
Got a new job confirmed today, great stuff I hear you say :blink: well in some ways it is in other ways it is a total bugger :facepalm: cos I have now confirmed a Jan 16 start with me away the DB1K weekend double :facepalm: or should that be :facepalm::facepalm:

Anyway I was organised this year and have a single room at the Gladstone for Fri / Sun night and a single cabin in the Alex campground so if anyone wants their accomodation given to them on a plate drop me a PM

I will be going on a pre DB1k ride - thinking maybe a night or two camping up in the South Island somewhere prior to Jan 16 (so I can at least get a decent ride in) so if anyone is keen, again, drop me a PM

One last final :facepalm:

Crim

What? you mean you didn't take the DB1K into consideration in negotiation of your starting date?

ADVGD
28th November 2011, 19:58
so who else is just cruising on the main route?

The main route is a magic run, no doubt, but the challenge sections are sugar on the top for me, the Awakino is such a fun run with the most spectacular scenery, even though I've been through there 4 times now I can't wait to get back down there


Got a new job confirmed today

Congrats mate :niceone:


have now confirmed a Jan 16 start with me away the DB1K weekend

Priorities mate, what the hell ya doing?!? :scratch:

Woodman
28th November 2011, 20:18
G'day
Got a new job confirmed today, great stuff I hear you say :blink: well in some ways it is in other ways it is a total bugger :facepalm: cos I have now confirmed a Jan 16 start with me away the DB1K weekend double :facepalm: or should that be :facepalm::facepalm:

Anyway I was organised this year and have a single room at the Gladstone for Fri / Sun night and a single cabin in the Alex campground so if anyone wants their accomodation given to them on a plate drop me a PM

I will be going on a pre DB1k ride - thinking maybe a night or two camping up in the South Island somewhere prior to Jan 16 (so I can at least get a decent ride in) so if anyone is keen, again, drop me a PM

One last final :facepalm:

Crim


PM sent

ftcr

timg
29th November 2011, 18:19
Hi TA (& others who may intend on giving the Challenge Sections a 'skip' this year - I don't plan on doing the Challenge Sections - getting too old (and believe it's unfair on those who help me pick up my bike n times) - thanks Rogson for the 5 times you helped me pick up my DR on the Awakino Saddle - cheers Aslan I'll make a decision on the day. If conditions are good, ie been dry for a while, I'll give it a crack, otherwise I'll be doing the basic tour. :)

XF650
29th November 2011, 18:30
I'll make a decision on the day. If conditions are good, ie been dry for a while, I'll give it a crack, otherwise I'll be doing the basic tour. :)

That's Transalp talk, not 625 !!

timg
29th November 2011, 18:51
That's Transalp talk, not 625 !! Haha :lol: but you're cheating taking that itty bitty smelly lil two smoker. :facepalm:

Aslan
29th November 2011, 19:51
I'll make a decision on the day. If conditions are good, ie been dry for a while, I'll give it a crack, otherwise I'll be doing the basic tour. :)

Hi Tim (and others lurking) - I can easily be convinced to give the Awakino Saddle another 'crack' - like you I'll wait and see - meantime the sensible intention is to give it a skip - look forward to catching up - cheers Aslan

cold comfort
29th November 2011, 21:33
Hi Tim (and others lurking) - I can easily be convinced to give the Awakino Saddle another 'crack' - like you I'll wait and see - meantime the sensible intention is to give it a skip - look forward to catching up - cheers Aslan

I will if you will..:yes:

Aslan
29th November 2011, 22:02
I will if you will..:yes:

hi cold comfort - Mark it will be good to catch up again - and yes I'm likely to succumb - see you at Fairlie God Willing :) Cheers S

cooneyr
29th November 2011, 22:11
I'm supprised you guys are all thinking about skipping the Awakino Saddle challenge and yet haven't mentioned the 30 something river crossings on the way up to Omarama Saddle.

You will be pleased to know that I'm sending the main route over the "dry" (more easterly) Omarama Saddle this year and leaving the wet Saddle for the keen lads.

Cheers R

Aslan
29th November 2011, 22:23
You will be pleased to know that I'm sending the main route over the "dry" (more easterly) Omarama Saddle this year and leaving the wet Saddle for the keen lads.

Cheers R

that's a relief Ryan - I think :facepalm: - cheers S

Taz
30th November 2011, 09:13
The challenge loops - just how difficult are they? I'm a competent off road rider, will I struggle on my 640Adv?

Taz

thepom
30th November 2011, 09:16
You,ll be fine as long as you have a good mate help you out of some of the more difficult bits....

ADVGD
30th November 2011, 10:47
The challenge loops - just how difficult are they? I'm a competent off road rider, will I struggle on my 640Adv?

Taz

TA's vid is a good look into the Awakino challenge section, there are a few steepish parts but it is bloody great fun and the scenery is outstanding

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/QwpJDWY6jFM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ADVGD
30th November 2011, 11:15
DAS’s (http://dasmoto.co.nz/) Mitas tyre stocks are slowly being depleted with the chance that the next shipment may not arrive before DB1K kick-off, it may pay to get in quick

For those looking for a good tyre to tackle the challenge sections the Mitas C02 is a very aggressive DOT approved tyre at only $169

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v0a1zavzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Woodman
30th November 2011, 20:07
The challenge loops - just how difficult are they? I'm a competent off road rider, will I struggle on my 640Adv?

Taz

KLR can do em and its a road bike, just stay away from watery ruts.
Only issue I had on the Awakino was going down the other side there were a couple of times that the bash plate got a real good workout.

cooneyr
30th November 2011, 20:09
The challenge loops - just how difficult are they? I'm a competent off road rider, will I struggle on my 640Adv?

Taz

I've riden a 950 Adv S over all of the route more than a couple of times and consider myself to be an intermediate rider.


DAS’s (http://dasmoto.co.nz/) For those looking for a good tyre to tackle the challenge sections the Mitas C02 is a very aggressive DOT approved tyre at only $169

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v0a1zavzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

This is my rear tyre of choice for this year and would be a good more one step more agressive tyre compared to a E09/D606/MT21.

Cheers R

cooneyr
30th November 2011, 23:09
You fella's are never going to loose me now! Bought a pair of these pants at a local bike shop sale tonight. Lets just say I need to get them dirty and its good that most of the orange will be inside my boots :msn-wink:

http://images.esellerpro.com/2189/I/388/23/Alpinestars-Racer-MX-Motocross-Pants-Orange-1.jpg

Cheers R

rogerh
1st December 2011, 05:03
The challenge loops - just how difficult are they? I'm a competent off road rider, will I struggle on my 640Adv?

Taz

Andy,

I ride my 640 down there on an E07 rear and a knobbly (trackmaster, cheap and cheerful) up front, and I have never wished for anything more. At that time of the year down there, mud is pretty rare, and rocks are the main issue. I run pressures pretty high, as I am much more worried about flats than needing the additional traction from lower pressures. There is nothing there that is too challenging even on a big bike for a rider with a bit of experience off road and on looser and deeper loose surfaces.

The bigger challenge is keeping your eyes on the road. The scenery is great…

thepom
1st December 2011, 11:03
aaaaaaargh my eyes.............:crazy:

Padmei
1st December 2011, 11:42
Good God Man did you get a cape with that? Being a KTM rider you may have to pad the croutch:bleh:

Taz
1st December 2011, 11:46
Andy,

I ride my 640 down there on an E07 rear and a knobbly (trackmaster, cheap and cheerful) up front, and I have never wished for anything more. At that time of the year down there, mud is pretty rare, and rocks are the main issue. I run pressures pretty high, as I am much more worried about flats than needing the additional traction from lower pressures. There is nothing there that is too challenging even on a big bike for a rider with a bit of experience off road and on looser and deeper loose surfaces.

The bigger challenge is keeping your eyes on the road. The scenery is great…

Sweet. I was watching that XT600 topple over all the time in the challenge video and thought to myself "wow those challenge sections must be really hard!!" Mind you it looks as tho that XT is fitted with an ejector seat if you watch the vid at 2:52 :lol: So just thought I'd check. Sure I won't have too many issues (famous last words). Will have an MT70 on the rear and a Dunlop D605 on the front coz that's whats sitting in the shed.

Now off to physio to get my hand ready for this trip, I can almost make a fist now :)

cooneyr
1st December 2011, 13:50
.....Mind you it looks as tho that XT is fitted with an ejector seat if you watch the vid at 2:52 :lol:....

Lets just say the rider of that particular XT has a bit of a reputation :shutup: No hints but mopeht eyes got a fright ;)

Cheers R

jezzaNZ
1st December 2011, 14:25
Nice pants Ryan.....I see you have good taste in riding attire like myself!!!!:yes:

Waihou Thumper
1st December 2011, 18:31
I can almost make a fist now :)

​Umm, less of that, this is a friendly ride :)

_Shrek_
1st December 2011, 19:52
You fella's are never going to loose me now! Bought a pair of these pants at a local bike shop sale tonight. Lets just say I need to get them dirty and its good that most of the orange will be inside my boots :msn-wink:

http://images.esellerpro.com/2189/I/388/23/Alpinestars-Racer-MX-Motocross-Pants-Orange-1.jpg

Cheers R

KTM riders :facepalm: & timg will want a pair now :laugh:


aaaaaaargh my eyes.............:crazy:

+1 :eek5:

Skinny_Birdman
1st December 2011, 20:32
KTM riders.... will want a pair now :laugh:

You saying KTM riders don't have a pair? Them's fighting words!:jerry:

cooneyr
1st December 2011, 20:55
You saying KTM riders don't have a pair? Them's fighting words!:jerry:

We can pretend and make like we do ;)

Cheers R

Taz
5th December 2011, 20:55
Pssst... It's past the 1st of december, where's the downloads? :confused:

Waihou Thumper
5th December 2011, 21:01
Pssst... It's past the 1st of december, where's the downloads? :confused:



Didn't want to say, but you been looking too :) Yep....patience, this isn't the Kaipara adventure ride, but way, way better....:msn-wink:

Transalper
5th December 2011, 21:01
Shhhh, do not disturb... work in progress.
I was just reminding cooneyr of the date yesterday. Should see something by the end of the coming weekend is the rumour.
I've just been casting an eye over the draft roll chart and found a spelling mistake so going to make him start over... or I guess to save time he could just fix the one wrong letter.

cooneyr
5th December 2011, 21:02
Pssst... It's past the 1st of december, where's the downloads? :confused:

Working on them. Roll chart is very close (couple of days). GPS files going to take a little longer.

Cheers R

_Shrek_
7th December 2011, 20:45
we might have a late entry our youngest is now the proud owner of a XLR250 just work'n out...

cooneyr
7th December 2011, 22:01
we might have a late entry our youngest is now the proud owner of a XLR250 just work'n out...

He should easily keep Pa in his dust ;)

Cheers R

Buddha#81
10th December 2011, 18:41
Woohoo, converted back to Adventure trim today, new tyres, chains and sprockets, wof and reg on Monday and its adventure time. Looking at Rainbow and Moleworth on Boxing day and the 27th as a shakedown for the Dusty :)

cynna
10th December 2011, 19:20
Looking at Rainbow and Moleworth on Boxing day and the 27th as a shakedown for the Dusty :)

come visit me (and maybe TAer) at lake tennyson. going to mtb edwards and malings pass. will have a tent at the lake for a few nights

Waihou Thumper
11th December 2011, 16:47
If anyone wants to share a double room at the Dunstan Hotel, Clyde, please let me know. $35.00 each.
I am hunting around and I do not want to bring the tent if I can help it....After the WAR ride, the thrill of a hot shower and a clean bed is bliss!

PM me please...:)
This will be for the Saturday night of course...Clyde is close and we ride right past it, so you have a head start..:)

Waihou Thumper
11th December 2011, 17:14
If anyone wants to share a double room at the Dunstan Hotel, Clyde, please let me know. $35.00 each.
I am hunting around and I do not want to bring the tent if I can help it....After the WAR ride, the thrill of a hot shower and a clean bed is bliss!

PM me please...:)
This will be for the Saturday night of course...Clyde is close and we ride right past it, so you have a head start..:)


Disregard, it looks like it might not be available...:(

buggsubique
12th December 2011, 20:03
Well after pulling out and then signing up again I now have to pull out again :no:. Army now has plans for me much of next year and most of January so I'm gonna have to watch from the sidelines.

cooneyr
12th December 2011, 21:16
Hi All. Spoke with the last landowner tonight about getting access and all sorted. Roll charts have been finalised and are now available on the website. GPS files still to come.

Cheers R

Woodman
12th December 2011, 21:20
Hi All. Spoke with the last landowner tonight about getting access and all sorted. Roll charts have been finalised and are now available on the website. GPS files still to come.

Cheers R

Legend......

Taz
13th December 2011, 10:04
Been studying the roll chart. What does "reset Go To Cell" mean?

Transalper
13th December 2011, 10:13
which cell/instruction number are you referring too?
There's been an issue with Font sizes or cell formatting of some description with the display of the Normal vs wide roll charts.
It may still have issues by the look of it. Fixing the wide one may have broke the narrow one.

CrazyFrog
13th December 2011, 10:19
Been studying the roll chart. What does "reset Go To Cell" mean?

Rest trip meter to 0.00km, and Go to Cell # option is there for the purpose of skipping challenge section. ie Those who just wish to do gravel road route instead of harder stuff. Cell number is listed as Total, just to confuse you.
Likewise, at the end of challenge section, the route map will also say "Go to Cell #" so scroll forward to section where road route meets challenge link.

So, if you're wanting to reduce the amount of paper roll chart, you can delete sections you don't require (choose between challenge of road routes) when you're chopping and taping them together.
Comprendez Amigo?

Transalper
13th December 2011, 10:28
Definitely a Formatting issue, the A5 wide roll chart is intact, the Normal narrow one has info dropped off the bottom of quite a few cells, it was the other way round a week ago before the stuff went public.
I'm sure it will be corrected as soon as can be done.

cooneyr
13th December 2011, 20:34
Sorry fellas. Guess thats what you get for using freeby software to put the toll chart together. Found the issue. Just need to add a space to the end of the text in the cell to ensure the cell is expanded to fit the text. Sorted now and Version 2a of the 'normal' width roll chart is on the website.

Crazyfrog nailed it Taz. If you have any other questions just holla. These roll chart things are a bit strange.

Just be thankful I've not unleashed the French codes as per the Dakar on you all i.e. D = Dorite = right, G = Gauche = left, MVS = Mauvais = bad etc. That would make a few of your heads rattle. Alternatively there is a Ausi Safari codes which make more sense as they are acronyms i.e. TL = Turn Left but there is 42 codes to learn.

Cheers R

Transalper
13th December 2011, 20:41
Looks good to me now.

I'm willing to bet Taz knows how it's supposed to work but before the new correction that's ("reset Go To Cell") all some of the cells said , they didn't say which cell to go to which would have led to the question.

Taz
13th December 2011, 20:49
Na I just thought he'd spelt Hell with a C.

Transalper
13th December 2011, 20:51
Na I just thought he'd spelt Hell with a C.

:laugh:


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cooneyr
13th December 2011, 20:58
Na I just thought he'd spelt Hell with a C.

Be careful what you wish for :laugh:

alane
13th December 2011, 22:26
What IS the difference-------just that one,s bigger than the other??? :confused:

Can you Ryan---or some other geek explain it to the ignorant masses. :blink: :facepalm:

Transalper
13th December 2011, 22:54
Yes, the top one is the normal (for us) sized roll chart.
The second one (the A5 version) is set out with wider cells/bigger writing but needs a bigger holder like the ones Torpedo 7 was/is selling.
The actual instructions should be the same.

cooneyr
14th December 2011, 07:04
Yes, the top one is the normal (for us) sized roll chart.
The second one (the A5 version) is set out with wider cells/bigger writing but needs a bigger holder like the ones Torpedo 7 was/is selling.
The actual instructions should be the same.

Glad I have a scretary to keep everybody informed. Instructions should be identical as the A5 is simply a resizing of the normal version for those with the T7 or other larger holders.

Cheers R

Transalper
14th December 2011, 07:11
Glad I have a scretary to keep everybody informed...lol, yep well I know when I have questions I want my answers straight away. :wait:
I knew the answer and suspected you were done for the day. :sleep:

alane
14th December 2011, 08:27
-------------O.K.-----------

TAA! for that you two. :niceone:

Torpedo 7 forgot to mention---you can also read sheet music on his one,s ,as you go along. :killingme

cold comfort
14th December 2011, 13:57
Glad I have a scretary to keep everybody informed. Instructions should be identical as the A5 is simply a resizing of the normal version for those with the T7 or other larger holders.

Cheers R

Fantastic job as always, thanks. Damn stepson ran the printer cartridge dry with his Uni project, used up all our bandwidth with downloads, emptied the fridge then moved on! Soon as i get some ink will introduce the A5 to my new Torpedo holder. IMS tank fitted, new battery, couple of fabricated hooks for a tail bag. Not long now!

whatastoner
14th December 2011, 18:04
The T7 roadbook holder lets in water past the O ring seal. would recommend some silicone grease in the groove.

cold comfort
14th December 2011, 18:40
Yeah, seems a bit imprecise in the seating-thanks for the tip!

GPS MAN
14th December 2011, 18:50
The T7 roadbook holder lets in water past the O ring seal. would recommend some silicone grease in the groove.

Thanks for the info! Ordered one today..my 50 year old eyes can't make out the small chart #'s:no: Bike should be ready...just need to get through Christmas/New Years then off to the SI..:clap:

Underground
14th December 2011, 21:00
Thanks for the info! Ordered one today..my 50 year old eyes can't make out the small chart #'s:no: Bike should be ready...just need to get through Christmas/New Years then off to the SI..:clap:

I know how you feel my eyes are 56 and going fast :( so much so that I've had to buy 2x T7's cause some arsehole pinched the first one after the courier dropped it off at my daughters place!
Will be nice to catch up with you again down there GPS bloke.

cold comfort
16th December 2011, 18:17
Just heard back. Won't do deal. If you want on the Torpedo 7 Roll chart holders get in quick. Offer closes at 10am on Friday (18th Nov).

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7TO4NNER

Cheers R

Having some issues with the roll holder. The rollers are VERY tight and, when the paper is attached, jams so tight the paper rips rather than advance.:mad: Any (helpful) suggestions? Might have to go back to my reliable home built job.

Transalper
16th December 2011, 18:21
Having not seen a T7 roll chart holder in person all I have to suggest is that on my home made job I wind the bottom handle to create some slack inside before winding the top handle on to move to the next instruction. Will operating in this manner help?

If it's to do with the amount of paper you're installing is there any way of winding or trimming the paper in to a tighter spool?
Separate the roll in to a Saturday roll and a Sunday roll ?

topo
16th December 2011, 18:26
Try lubing the shafts with either graphite powder or a drop of light oil, or if they are really stiff put the cordless drill on it and give them a work out.
Also dont roll the sheet on to tight to begin with.

I dont have a RB holder like that one bu the above has worked on the various manual/electric ones i've made and the MD i've got now.

cold comfort
16th December 2011, 20:17
H
If it's to do with the amount of paper you're installing is there any way of winding or trimming the paper in to a tighter spool?
Separate the roll in to a Saturday roll and a Sunday roll ?

Only spooled as tight as was required to fit it in. Dividing into days crossed my mind but most of the directions are on day one so wouldn't make a heap of difference.


Try lubing the shafts with either graphite powder or a drop of light oil, or if they are really stiff put the cordless drill on it and give them a work out.
Also dont roll the sheet on to tight to begin with.
.

Didn't roll it tight as stated. Will try the rogering with the drill i think. Notice you cant access the mounting screws when the paper is on either! Daft setup

BMWST?
16th December 2011, 20:32
daft question probably.....why all the odo resets.?

Crisis management
16th December 2011, 20:37
[QUOTE=BMWST?;1130216890]daft question probably.....why all the odo resets.?[/QUOTE

To eliminate error between different speedos, if you ran the whole 1000 kms you would find bikes turning off tens of kms away from the actual turn by the end.

cooneyr
16th December 2011, 21:13
daft question probably.....why all the odo resets.?

What Crisis said. Also on the rough stuff, riders don't always take the same line so differences in KM's quickly rack up. The other thing to remember is that if you get horribly lost you can back track to the last known position/reset to get your distances under control again without having to go back too far. Not hear of anybody having to do that yet though.

Cheers R

_Shrek_
16th December 2011, 22:17
Having some issues with the roll holder. The rollers are VERY tight and, when the paper is attached, jams so tight the paper rips rather than advance.:mad: Any (helpful) suggestions? Might have to go back to my reliable home built job.

throw it out ie: send it to me :rolleyes:

just registered our youngest (Off-spring) be his 1st Db1k :Punk:

cold comfort
17th December 2011, 14:15
Actually I'd be quite happy to sell it. Cost $39.99 + P&P. Its larger than i envisioned Trying to mount it on the KTM's like fitting a 42" plasma screen! :facepalm:Can't see anything else on the dash. Needs a cross bar on the handle bars too. Gave it a whirl with the dry glide and electric drill- moves more freely now.

rogerh
17th December 2011, 15:38
Another useful thing when putting roll charts in holders is to photocopy the roll chart smaller. I have a very small Enduro Engineering one, and by reducing it to say 88%, also makes it only 88% as long. That way I fit each day of the DB in the very small holder quite easily.

The graphite and drill trick is also essential with the one I have. I like it, but it means you need to get this sorted before the ride. Kaipara folk did not like it, but Chris was helpful in that regard. No problem for most rides tho.

andy mac
17th December 2011, 15:56
The other thing to remember is that if you get horribly lost you can back track to the last known position/reset to get your distances under control again without having to go back too far. Not hear of anybody having to do that yet though.

Cheers R

:rolleyes: In 2011 we dodged crossing the Fairlie river (oooh wet feet) and managed to get temporarily misplaced just 5.8km from the start which wasn't a very encouraging start to the day. I see the route instructions are identical for 2012, so is the farm track at 5.8km identified as Jefcoates Rd on Google Earth?

Transalper
17th December 2011, 16:09
:rolleyes: In 2011 we dodged crossing the Fairlie river (oooh wet feet) and managed to get temporarily misplaced just 5.8km from the start which wasn't a very encouraging start to the day. I see the route instructions are identical for 2012, so is the farm track at 5.8km identified as Jefcoates Rd on Google Earth?

The Gate to go through is 200m back from Jefcoates Rd.... at S44 06.687 E170 52.933.
By the time you turn left on to Jefcoates Rd you have already turned through the gate and started the climb. Can see the track in Satellite view.
On my maps the spot the gate is at just looks like a corner not an intersection. In real life it looks like an in intersection where temptation is to blast straight past the turn which just takes you to the farm house.

I think Ryans planning to spray and arrow with Dazzel paint or something at that one turn the night before.

NordieBoy
17th December 2011, 16:15
Another useful thing when putting roll charts in holders is to photocopy the roll chart smaller. I have a very small Enduro Engineering one, and by reducing it to say 88%, also makes it only 88% as long. That way I fit each day of the DB in the very small holder quite easily.

Also works if Mr CooneyR puts up the RBF file and you can print it at any size you want.

cold comfort
17th December 2011, 17:48
Actually I'd be quite happy to sell it. Cost $39.99 + P&P. Its larger than i envisioned Trying to mount it on the KTM's like fitting a 42" plasma screen! :facepalm:Can't see anything else on the dash. Needs a cross bar on the handle bars too. Gave it a whirl with the dry glide and electric drill- moves more freely now.

Just needed a bigger bike- sold to the man with the oil tanker:dodge:

_Shrek_
17th December 2011, 18:02
Just needed a bigger bike- sold to the man with the oil tanker:dodge:

well you might just need the oil tanker, with that piddly little tank on the road marker cone :bleh:

ps:$ sent

cooneyr
17th December 2011, 21:22
:rolleyes: In 2011 we dodged crossing the Fairlie river (oooh wet feet) and managed to get temporarily misplaced just 5.8km from the start which wasn't a very encouraging start to the day. I see the route instructions are identical for 2012, so is the farm track at 5.8km identified as Jefcoates Rd on Google Earth?

What Transalper said. If you get to the farm house you have gone about 150m too far. I am going to mark this entrance with Dazzle this year, especially if the river is up again. If the river is up I'll probably Dazzle SH79/Tondros intersection as well. I'll talk about this at briefing if I do.



Also works if Mr CooneyR puts up the RBF file and you can print it at any size you want.

Or just use your printers re-sizing options. Most printer drivers I've seen allow for resizing of pages.

Cheers R

cold comfort
17th December 2011, 22:33
well you might just need the oil tanker, with that piddly little tank on the road marker cone :bleh:

ps:$ sent

Haha, good one, thats me,right cone-head.:laugh: And thanks for the other.:niceone:

Woodman
17th December 2011, 22:35
Me and Umopom went through the fairlie river last year and still managed to get lost:second:

One thing with the roll charts and the distances, if you have a digital speedo like a vapor and I think the KTM units, you can incrementally adjust your trip meter forward or back to match the distances if there is a mismatch at a waypoint. Did that make sense?

cooneyr
18th December 2011, 14:06
Me and Umopom went through the fairlie river last year and still managed to get lost:second:

One thing with the roll charts and the distances, if you have a digital speedo like a vapor and I think the KTM units, you can incrementally adjust your trip meter forward or back to match the distances if there is a mismatch at a waypoint. Did that make sense?

KTM one's definitely can be adjusted. I use this function when doing the pre rides to make life simpler. KTM sells plug in switches for $150ish, but you can make up a switch set for about $10 using some dick smith switches, bit of flat steel (mount using mirror mount), cable and plugs. The KTM 9X0's are easy enough in that with tiny spade connectors you can just jam them into the plug on the bike. Have to have remote switches on the 9X0's to adjust trip meter 2. EXC's have a different plug on the bike but I though bugger it and cut it off to replace with standard 4 wire plug from dick smith. Don't actually need the switches on the EXC cause the ones on the speedo unit also do the trick but easier with remote switches.

If anybody wants details or photos let me know. Means you can easily adjust trip meter 2, change modes (clock, speed, trip 1 for fuel, stopwatch etc) reset Trip 2 (only on the EXC from remote switches) on the fly. Very handy.

If only I actually had to use the roll chart rather than just relying on memory. Looking forward to the 2012 CCA ;)

Cheers R

Woodman
18th December 2011, 16:37
Bloody near impossible adjusting the vapor on the fly, well not safely anyway.

Tthe old standard klr trip meter with a dial on the side was way more user friendly, e.g. didn't have to stop to wind it back to zero,

GPS MAN
18th December 2011, 18:09
My plan is to run GPS & the Route Chart....I am sure I'll still get lost:laugh:

Looking forward to a Great Ride:yes:

Taz
18th December 2011, 18:42
Is there a gps route?? :shutup:

cooneyr
18th December 2011, 21:00
Is there a gps route?? :shutup:

Yer its comming :whistle: Finished it today and set it off to my QA man/scretary for review. Hope to have posted in next couple of days.

Cheers R

cold comfort
19th December 2011, 08:19
My plan is to run GPS & the Route Chart....I am sure I'll still get lost:laugh:
:

Like me:doh: It pays to actually follow the directions instead of trying to make up time by following the guy in front. He may also be lost:facepalm:

Monstaman
19th December 2011, 09:25
(EDIT) BED TAKEN CHAPS ..

We have a spare single bed in a two bed room for Friday and Sunday nights at the motorcamp, if you are wanting accom give the dude a ring and ask if it is still a available, first in first served.

We are booked under Andi Delis (Monstaman) / Keith Turner (Shrek) so mention that to him and he knows all about it, also if you do get it pm me here so I can advise that it is taken.

Lookin forward to it chaps!! :woohoo:

cooneyr
19th December 2011, 21:51
GPS file (in two versions) are now on the web. I've not created a 50 point version this year as I've not seen anybody using an old GPS unit that would need this version for couple of years. I can create it if necessary.

I've also had a rider kindly convert the roll chart to miles so now there are two more versions of the roll chart on the web for those with imperial odometer bikes.

Download page here (http://www.db1k.com/downloads.php)

Cheers R

Transalper
19th December 2011, 23:12
The miles roll charts have a couple of errors been introduced which have offset the 'goto' cells around the challenge vs main navigation.
Might pay to wait another day for the fix if you plan to use the roll charts done up in miles.
I've only found one small non fatal error remaining in the km charts (#146 intersection isn't actually a T it's a + but the instruction to 'turn left' is correct)

mattsdakar
19th December 2011, 23:12
Hi Guys,
Thought I'd throw it out there nice and early for those abit further afield than Christchurch who weren't sure of their plans on getting down to Fairlie.
For those unaware, over the last few years I've put together a preDB1K trip from Christchurch to Fairlie on the Friday (20Jan).
Just letting you know that I intend doing the same again this year only I have extended this years route making it a full day ride.
The ride will again involve leaving on mass early Friday from near Christchurch Airport to Fairlie via Orari Gorge Station but this time round I've decided to add the the Glenfalloch / Lake Heron loop into the equation.
I have spoken to all but one landowner involved and have gained access permission, so once all sorted I will start a separate thread
NB:All three separate landowners charge a small access fee to upkeep tracks so there will be a small tariff involved.

Anyway I'll have more info in the new thread (once started) and will answer questions then,(don't want this thread hijacked) this is just a heads up
Get organised and I'll see you Friday!
Rgds Matt

CrazyFrog
20th December 2011, 04:58
Cheers for this Matt, Glenfalloch to Lake Heron has been on my wishlist for a while now. Count me in.

cooneyr
20th December 2011, 07:47
Imperial roll chart now updated.

NordieBoy
20th December 2011, 10:06
Imperial roll chart now updated.

RBF available?

cooneyr
20th December 2011, 14:44
RBF available?

If you ask nicely:)


I'll email you tonight.

ADVGD
21st December 2011, 09:48
Ryans idea for a Bike Make Percentage count has been added to the DB1K Riders (http://db1k.com/riders.php) page, it certainly paints an interesting picture, a very orange field this year closely followed by a swag of Suzukis

Taz
21st December 2011, 12:30
a very orange field this year closely followed by a swag of Suzukis

But my orange bike is silver.

graeme
21st December 2011, 18:13
Need help on down loading gps files to zumo

_Shrek_
21st December 2011, 18:23
Actually I'd be quite happy to sell it. Cost $39.99 + P&P. Its larger than i envisioned Trying to mount it on the KTM's like fitting a 42" plasma screen! :facepalm:Can't see anything else on the dash. Needs a cross bar on the handle bars too. Gave it a whirl with the dry glide and electric drill- moves more freely now.

:shit: it arived today you not wrong about a 42" plasma screen!! on the up side I wont need my reading glasses :laugh:

:scratch: now all I need to know is which version do I use in it

Crim
21st December 2011, 19:16
Need help on down loading gps files to zumo

what sort of help do you need? do you want to learn how to get the most out of your Zumo (talk to one of the techsperts) or if you just want the DB1k loaded on to your gps I can probably help

timg
21st December 2011, 19:41
Need help on down loading gps files to zumo I've got one too. What's the problem? Need to use less than 200 points. Lotsa good info here .... http://www.zumoforums.com/ Away for Xmas but happy to help after the new year. Cheers.

graeme
21st December 2011, 20:04
Thanks crim and timg. need to know how to down load from dbk1 page to zumo

Transalper
21st December 2011, 20:08
Need help on down loading gps files to zumoAs Tim says, you with a Zumo need to download the 199point GPX file to your computer and then upload it with what ever program you usually send stuff to your Zumo with.

AND REMEMBER EVERYONE these files must be used in 'OFF ROAD MODE' did I say that loud enough for everyone??
That will of course be mentioned again at the riders briefing on the Friday evening at the Gladstone as per last time.


:shit: it arived today you not wrong about a 42" plasma screen!! on the up side I wont need my reading glasses :laugh:

:scratch: now all I need to know is which version do I use in itthe A5 roll charts are the wide screen TV versions.

cooneyr
21st December 2011, 20:21
:shit: it arived today you not wrong about a 42" plasma screen!! on the up side I wont need my reading glasses :laugh:

:scratch: now all I need to know is which version do I use in it

Use the A5 version (second link). When printed on and A4 page and trimmed it should fit nicely.


Thanks crim and timg. need to know how to down load from dbk1 page to zumo

Right now you need to save the file to your computer. If clicking on the link doesn't give you and option to save to your computer then right click on the link and choose "save link as" or "save target as" or similar. You then need to connect your Zumo to your computer using the USB cable. Step 3 is to open the Garmin software you have installed on your computer i.e. MapSource or BaseCamp. If you've not installed the software you should have a CD that came with your Zumo - install the software from that. Once Garmin software open, open the gpx file, select all the routes in the list on the left of the Garmin software screen and use the "Send to Device" button to upload to your GPS.

Once you've done all that you need to change your Zumo to the "off road" route preference for the ride. See your Zumo manual. From the copy of the manual that I've found the route preference is in the menu under Tools/Settings/Navigation/Route Preference.

Hope this helps.

Cheers R

Do just noticed TA has bet me too it. A bit more detail above though. I'll reiterate though OFF ROAD mode!

Underground
21st December 2011, 20:32
Makes me feel happy I'm using the roll chart .....'Use the A5 version' seems to be the only instruction needed there :yes:

Taz
22nd December 2011, 21:18
All routes loaded onto the mighty Garmin Zumo 220. Is it the 20th of Jan yet?

NordieBoy
24th December 2011, 11:46
Who's still looking for/hasn't arranged accommodation?

Before I start calling, I might as well try for several people.

I'm looking at tenting Fri-Sun (hopefully leaving the tent there over Sat) unless I can get a room and motel or something in Alex.

Otherwise I'll just tent the lot.

k14
25th December 2011, 20:00
Who's still looking for/hasn't arranged accommodation?

Before I start calling, I might as well try for several people.

I'm looking at tenting Fri-Sun (hopefully leaving the tent there over Sat) unless I can get a room and motel or something in Alex.

Otherwise I'll just tent the lot.
I'm going to sleep in back of van on Friday night but probably should go in the camping ground in Fairlie. Need to leave it there till Sunday. Should probably get onto that.

_Shrek_
25th December 2011, 20:12
Who's still looking for/hasn't arranged accommodation?

Before I start calling, I might as well try for several people.

I'm looking at tenting Fri-Sun (hopefully leaving the tent there over Sat) unless I can get a room and motel or something in Alex.

Otherwise I'll just tent the lot.

Monstaman has a spare bed at Fairlie for Friday & Sunday if ya need

NordieBoy
25th December 2011, 21:07
I'll take a pile of magnets with me for anyone who wants one...

Transalper
26th December 2011, 20:10
Gladstone was ok with cars left there last time IIRC.

Padmei
30th December 2011, 09:16
Is there anyway of copying & pasting the sections of route sheet so there are 3 columns on the one page to make printing them out easier.

cooneyr
30th December 2011, 10:54
Is there anyway of copying & pasting the sections of route sheet so there are 3 columns on the one page to make printing them out easier.

Yes but it will cost you. Involves a bit of hacking around with PDF's, turning them into JPG's etc. The freeby software has a function to do multiple columns per page but its broke unfortunatly (been broken for about 4 years).

Easiest way for now is to print double sided or to print half the pages turn them around and put them back in the printer and then print the other half on the other part of the page.

Cheers R

XF650
30th December 2011, 11:57
Picked up another Nelson bike this week, this TTR250 being bigreddog's DB ride.
Roll on the "dusty bummer" (DOC staff interpretation, not mine).

Taz
30th December 2011, 14:30
Picked up another Nelson bike this week, this TTR250 being bigreddog's DB ride.
Roll on the "dusty bummer" (DOC staff interpretation, not mine).

Cool it's got a sidecar!

Monstaman
1st January 2012, 20:56
Lads ... I was cleva enough to break my right hand on new years eve, no great story or pub scrap to go with it. :weep::weep:

Anyway up shot is my motorcycling season has been bought to an early finish as i will be having surgery and it will be pinned back together, so no DB for sure maybe do Fukengruven in the truck .... yeah i know :nono::nono: but either that or miss it ...

Ok one handed typing this has taken 10 minutes, may have spare accom depending on Nordie if he has lodgings or not, let ya know afta.

mattsdakar
1st January 2012, 22:26
[QUOTE=Monstaman;1130226032]Lads ... I was cleva enough to break my right hand on new years eve, no great story or pub scrap to go with it. :weep::weep:

Bugger!
Sorry to hear that Andi, hope that doesn't effect your plans for Alaska South???

Padmei
2nd January 2012, 07:40
You stupid bugger:mad: Hope you heal quick my friend.


I can lend you my special throttle control...... you can adjust speed by using the clutch:lol:

Taz
2nd January 2012, 07:45
Bummer Andi.

I'm just at the physio end of a broken finger and that has kept me off work for 10 weeks so far.

Cary
2nd January 2012, 08:36
I'm just at the physio end of a broken finger and that has kept me off work for 10 weeks so far.But, only off the bike for 6.......:cool:

Monstaman
2nd January 2012, 09:20
[QUOTE=Monstaman;1130226032]
Bugger!
Sorry to hear that Andi, hope that doesn't effect your plans for Alaska South???

Heya Matt and all

Yeah bit gutted to say the least but that is how it is.

Our plans for Alaska South are on track but the next two weeks was earmarked to complete our luggage system so will now need outside help to finish fabbing and welding, should have a coupla weeks up my leave post op to get sorted but nothing will change the start date other than death!!!:devil2:

In chch now, feelin sorry for myself and gettin our arses rocked off by mum nature ..... need to HTFU :baby:

_Shrek_
2nd January 2012, 10:19
Lads ... I was cleva enough to break my right hand on new years eve, no great story or pub scrap to go with it. :weep::weep:

Anyway up shot is my motorcycling season has been bought to an early finish as i will be having surgery and it will be pinned back together, so no DB for sure maybe do Fukengruven in the truck .... yeah i know :nono::nono: but either that or miss it ...

Ok one handed typing this has taken 10 minutes, may have spare accom depending on Nordie if he has lodgings or not, let ya know afta.

:facepalm: sad arse :rolleyes: how long are you in CHCH for I'll be up Wednesday night, I got an apointment Thursday at the hospital

Taz
2nd January 2012, 10:40
But, only off the bike for 6.......:cool:

Less than that as the boys bikes don't have clutches :banana:

Waihou Thumper
2nd January 2012, 16:01
Roll chart done, all good except...

I thought it a good idea to line four or five of the pages up, use the ruler and the nice sharp razor blade, as you do....

Only to find out that the cells are differing lengths...:bleh:
So, got it sorted, used the scissors and did it one by frikken one.....

The GPS is gonna be the go, but nice to have a Plan B....Like last time, put it in the bag at the Gladstone and then took it out when I got home to the Waikato....The GPS track was bloody excellent!

:clap:

Cary
2nd January 2012, 16:20
The GPS is gonna be the go, but nice to have a Plan B....Like last time, put it in the bag at the Gladstone and then took it out when I got home to the Waikato....The GPS track was bloody excellent!

Good to hear the gps route is good as i'm yet to be able to follow a roll chart correctly! Hoping to impress myself by following the gps track but.......

My plan b is riding a 640A huh Taz :lol: (actually thats my plan A to:cool:)

Waihou Thumper
2nd January 2012, 16:25
Good to hear the gps route is good as i'm yet to be able to follow a roll chart correctly! Hoping to impress myself by following the gps track but.......

My plan b is riding a 640A huh Taz :lol: (actually thats my plan A to:cool:)

:rolleyes: slut!

As I said, it went in the bag at Gladstone 0630 mainly because I couldn't be fagged cable tying to the bars, one more thing to fall off....
AND, it worked a treat...Trust the waypoints and keep a good eye on the terrain......AND follow the other 110 buggers if you really are in the shit! :eek:

it isn't Dakar, smell the roses...:)

Padmei
2nd January 2012, 16:35
The thing the gps won't tell you is which gate to open & close.

Waihou Thumper
2nd January 2012, 16:39
The thing the gps won't tell you is which gate to open & close.

Fuk, that's easy....It's the bugger that is holding the thing mate! :bleh:
Just make sure you aren't the first? Ain't that the rules of life? :)

Transalper
2nd January 2012, 17:01
The thing the gps won't tell you is which gate to open & close.

Actually sometimes it does but you need to have it displaying the waypoint names and read them before it thinks you are ready for the next waypoint.

_Shrek_
2nd January 2012, 19:24
Is there anyway of copying & pasting the sections of route sheet so there are 3 columns on the one page to make printing them out easier.

:shit: Padders!!! then I'd have to get a bigger screen & I think this 42" plasma is about as big as I can go :rolleyes:

254284

Padmei
2nd January 2012, 19:43
Actually sometimes it does but you need to have it displaying the waypoint names and read them before it thinks you are ready for the next waypoint.

Last year I rode GPS only & like others was stumped by the 1st gate (I think the one where Ryan is gonna dazzle). Also after having to go back to Alex to refuel I tried to catch up at Carricktown(?). I rode around for a while & although I could see where on my GPS where i should be I couldn't locate the entry. Luckily Jezza & the KTM boys showed up with a route chart.
This year I'm gonna have the route chart in a map bag to use as a backup if I get in the same situation hence the desire to have all the strips on one page.


:shit: Padders!!! then I'd have to get a bigger screen & I think this 42" plasma is about as big as I can go :rolleyes:

254284

Does your GS lazy boy have the special pocket for the remote control & stubbie chiller?:2thumbsup

cooneyr
2nd January 2012, 20:30
Hey Fellas I'm keen to get feedback on the GPS and roll chart. I've only had to follow a Roll Chart once and I've never had to rely on a GPS route file. You could say I'm more of a noob at using these than most of you fellas. Problem is that I've got the route permanently etched in my brain and there are bugger all other rides for me to "try out". So if you can be bothered and there are any issues please take note some how and email me after the event with feedback.

Cheers R

Transalper
2nd January 2012, 20:38
Last year I rode GPS only & like others was stumped by the 1st gate...Love to see your track log. Hard to imagine how the 1st gate would have messed you up even with detouring to keep dry feet.

Padmei
2nd January 2012, 20:44
Love to see your track log. Hard to imagine how the 1st gate would have messed you up even with detouring to keep dry feet.

It may not have been the 1st gate but I think it was - it was early in the morning & if you rode to the end of the road following the gps you ended up at a farmhouse- thats all I can remember. There were many bikers riding all directions untill Ryan turned up & opened the gate for us.
My point I was making however was that 2 forms of reference are better than one.

Transalper
2nd January 2012, 21:16
It may not have been the 1st gate but I think it was - it was early in the morning & if you rode to the end of the road following the gps you ended up at a farmhouse- thats all I can remember. There were many bikers riding all directions untill Ryan turned up & opened the gate for us.
My point I was making however was that 2 forms of reference are better than one.

Don't mean to sound like I'm hassling but am just trying to get a handle on the situation to help minimise it happening again.
Attached is a pic from my logs in blue with the route file in purple. Could it be that you came round the bend then looked at the GPS which at a glance you may have seen the route line on screen without identifying which direction you had come from ?
The way point was labelled 'turn left' but people may have been fooled in to following the line up the screen which would have been the wrong line, the way you came not the way you were supposed to go? This also depends how you have your maps displaying as in Track up or North up.
Not sure if that made sence either.

Oh and yes, I done 2010 with chart and GPS and at times double checking one against the other was good, except the gps waypoints do not reference the same numbers as the roll chart so finding which cell number you are up to can be tricky if you haven't kept up with rolling the chart on.
You might need to make or get a bunch of free standing waypoints at the correct places to match the roll chart cell numbers to check the chart against when you need to... I have one I could possibly clean up and post.

Monstaman
2nd January 2012, 21:36
Evening gents, Nordie has my bed now.

I think I forgot to tell him I was top and tailing with Shrek tho :devil2:

Dudes have fun, will be thinking of you, make sure you give big bro and twin bro shit tho :lol:

Padmei
2nd January 2012, 21:38
Yep that's the place alright.

I haven't checked my gps 'picture' (iykwim) but yours seems to indicate a very straightforward turn. I'm sure mine may not have been as clear as that at the time. it will be interesting to compare. Maybe you have a better visual background on your GPS.
I'll have another looksie tomm morning & see if it looks similar.

I'm not that good with the old techno stuff so waypoints are kinda off my radar. If i got into difficulty I noticed on the roll chart there are road names etc - I would kinda calculate with those. If I was still lost i'd try & find my way to Fairlie or Alex - it's all an adventure:)

EDIT - actually no I had another look on your pic & saw the arrows running along the fenceline. I think all mine had was the last waypoint & the next waypoint. We were looking at how to link the 2 up & thats where it was confusing. Those arrows are your tracklog or directions in your gps???

NordieBoy
2nd January 2012, 22:49
Hand painted arrows on the track log...

Transalper
2nd January 2012, 22:57
Hand painted arrows on the track log...

What he said. The arrows are drawn on just now to indicate the direction of the route and the direction we were travelling.
I do have a direction indicator pointing to the next waypoint and the name of the waypoint displayed on top of my map display screen on the Map62s to help stop me getting turned around.

Padmei
3rd January 2012, 07:07
OK - looking at my gps. 60csx with only the free automaps background on it - no topo background so no fences, etc. The waypoint A5 does say 'Left' so hard to say from here whether it or not it would be obvious to take that gate.

Is waypoint A113 the access gate to the cool carricktown track? That's the other one I was lost on.

I think after looking at your gps pic TA that not having the topo background is a big disadvantage in this case. That is where I'll utilise the routesheet as backup.

buggsubique
3rd January 2012, 07:43
that gps is capable of topo isnt it? The maps are free, you should install them.

[droid]

Padmei
3rd January 2012, 07:46
that gps is capable of topo isnt it? The maps are free, you should install them.

[droid]

Where are the free maps?

cooneyr
3rd January 2012, 08:10
OK - looking at my gps. 60csx with only the free automaps background on it - no topo background so no fences, etc. The waypoint A5 does say 'Left' so hard to say from here whether it or not it would be obvious to take that gate.

Is waypoint A113 the access gate to the cool carricktown track? That's the other one I was lost on.

I think after looking at your gps pic TA that not having the topo background is a big disadvantage in this case. That is where I'll utilise the routesheet as backup.

The free auto routing maps don't have roads/tracks, in fact anything, for much of the route. I have bought topos but I think there are some freeby topos combined with the autorouting map set. Transalper or Nordie might be able to post a link or confirm that the following one is the best link? I think it is the link (http://www.rcmaps.nzopengps.org/maps/nzogps&doc&srtm&waterways&PublicLand_topo_maps.html)you need.

Point A113 is the beginning of Awakino Saddle (Kurow to Ida Valley). Carricktown start is A188 (south west of Cromwell).

Cheers R

buggsubique
3rd January 2012, 08:27
pretty sure thats them in the link. Im in blenheim and have my netbook with me where its all setup on. If youre over this way i can install for you. I use garmin map source, its a piece of piss.

[droid]

JATZ
3rd January 2012, 08:28
The free auto routing maps don't have roads/tracks, in fact anything, for much of the route.

Cheers R

Really ? That's all I have used.
It was a bit hit and miss on the Awakino challenge section but we got through.....eventually :facepalm:
I think I remember the corner Padmie is talking about, and it looked like a farm track, used only by the farmer on his/her tractor. I guess you just have to trust your gps :yes: and keep an eye on it, I'm pretty sure I rode straight past the turn off too

Transalper
3rd January 2012, 08:56
Yea, that looks about right for the open topo map link I have and usually use.
Attached is what it looks like with them, also I added the black dotted line in to the last attachment (GT Topo Map) to make it look like an intersection where as it really just looks like a bend in the road on them too. There are no fence lines or gates on any of the GPS Topos I've seen.
Everyone has to be vigilant in being aware that they are reaching the next waypoint and trust that even when the road looks like it goes straight ahead, if the GPS says turn now then that's probably what you really need to do. If we don't realise we have passed a waypoint and missed a turn, then checking the GPS late it is quite easy to wonder where it all went.
I knew that one was there from the pre run so it really is hard for me (as with Ryan) to be sure what it would have been like first time through all hurried and so on.
This corner through the gate near Fairlie is indeed the one Ryan is going to Dazzel.

cooneyr
3rd January 2012, 08:56
Really ? That's all I have used.
It was a bit hit and miss on the Awakino challenge section but we got through.....eventually :facepalm:
I think I remember the corner Padmie is talking about, and it looked like a farm track, used only by the farmer on his/her tractor. I guess you just have to trust your gps :yes: and keep an eye on it, I'm pretty sure I rode straight past the turn off too

You could do the ride with no maps on your GPS i.e. use a old yellow really basic etrex which can't hold maps. The free autorouting maps don't have roads for sections such as Old Kaiwarua Rd, Awakino Saddle, Carricktown, Lammerlaw ranges, Omarama Saddle, Black forest etc. Just noticed the latest version of the free autorouting does have a "road" downstream of the gate in question i.e. Jefcoates Rd. Much of the route in my earlier post might have been a bit strong. Maybe I should have said no roads, tracks etc for much of the interesting stuff.

Your quite right it does look like a farm track at the gate in question. There are more than a couple of places where you turn onto what appears to be farm tracks (all paper rds) so yes you just have to trust your GPS or roll chart. GPS is pretty accurate (2-3m error max) at each point so you can be pretty confident of trusting it. I can understand those only using a roll chart getting that gate a bit wrong but those with a GPS should be able to put them straight.

More information is better so roll chart and GPS is the best.

Cheers R

buggsubique
3rd January 2012, 09:01
http://gwprojects.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1810

This is the link I used. Using Garmin Mapsource you should be able to plot / edit / create / tweak the entire DB1k route, incl turn / wpt notes etc to suit your own nav needs. I did this for a 900km route mid year and it was sweet. Takes a bit of farkling to get used to doing it, but you should be able to plot a route that includes both autorouting and off road wpts.

Transalper
3rd January 2012, 09:13
http://gwprojects.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1810

This is the link I used. Using Garmin Mapsource you should be able to plot / edit / create / tweak the entire DB1k route, incl turn / wpt notes etc to suit your own nav needs. I did this for a 900km route mid year and it was sweet. Takes a bit of farkling to get used to doing it, but you should be able to plot a route that includes both autorouting and off road wpts.
That link looks interesting, may be some more updated stuff there.

You have to be real careful if you plan to tweak the DB route files if you aren't familiar with the places as I've noticed some roads and tracks on the maps aren't plotted exactly where they actually are in the real world.

NordieBoy
3rd January 2012, 09:16
The free auto routing maps don't have roads/tracks, in fact anything, for much of the route. I have bought topos but I think there are some freeby topos combined with the autorouting map set. Transalper or Nordie might be able to post a link or confirm that the following one is the best link? I think it is the link (http://www.rcmaps.nzopengps.org/maps/nzogps&doc&srtm&waterways&PublicLand_topo_maps.html)you need.

Point A113 is the beginning of Awakino Saddle (Kurow to Ida Valley). Carricktown start is A188 (south west of Cromwell).

Cheers R

Or

http://www.nzopengps.org/public/DOC_NZOGPS/20100115_FREE_NZOGPS_DOC_SRTM_Setup.exe

Works well with the auto routing mapsets.

cooneyr
3rd January 2012, 09:27
http://gwprojects.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1810

This is the link I used. Using Garmin Mapsource you should be able to plot / edit / create / tweak the entire DB1k route, incl turn / wpt notes etc to suit your own nav needs. I did this for a 900km route mid year and it was sweet. Takes a bit of farkling to get used to doing it, but you should be able to plot a route that includes both autorouting and off road wpts.

I'm a bit nervous of you fellas tweaking the route. All the points are located from data collected is from the real world during pre rides/drives. Like TA said this means the points often don't tie with the maps very well. Also I've included as may points as possible (i.e. 250 or 199 points) in what should be the most useful locations. Also be careful of using autorouting sections. While they may work well for you another person may (will likely) have a different autorouting mapset so it may not work for them and in fact confuse them. Also be careful of the way point names/descriptions if you modify the routes.

Cheers R

buggsubique
3rd January 2012, 09:36
I'm a bit nervous of you fellas tweaking the route. All the points are located from data collected is from the real world during pre rides/drives. Like TA said this means the points often don't tie with the maps very well. Also I've included as may points as possible (i.e. 250 or 199 points) in what should be the most useful locations. Also be careful of using autorouting sections. While they may work well for you another person may (will likely) have a different autorouting mapset so it may not work for them and in fact confuse them. Also be careful of the way point names/descriptions if you modify the routes.

Cheers R

Wot he said. All at your own risk. Conceivably, you could even have two routes - the official one as the failsafe, and then your own tweaked one depending on what challenge sections you do / do not plan to do, your own fuelstops, modified turn notes etc etc etc.

I would be nervous about thinking I knew better about Ryan's et al's work too.

cooneyr
3rd January 2012, 18:57
Time for the embarrassment and dissing. Thanks to TA and TimG for their assistance. Check out this vid on youtube about getting the DB1k files onto various GPS models. Apologies for the crap narration. I'll be putting a link on the DB1k website as well.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dLs28xfttnw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This process will work for other files as well though you obviously need to think about if you set the route file up for on road or off road routing when you created it (or stole it from another source).

Cheers R

Aslan
3rd January 2012, 19:56
Excellent tutorial thanks Ryan, Carl and Tim for preparing & posting - cheers S

dmoo1790
4th January 2012, 14:58
Actually I'd be quite happy to sell it. Cost $39.99 + P&P. Its larger than i envisioned Trying to mount it on the KTM's like fitting a 42" plasma screen! :facepalm:Can't see anything else on the dash. Needs a cross bar on the handle bars too. Gave it a whirl with the dry glide and electric drill- moves more freely now.

Yeah, the T7 roll chart holder is a monster. I also don't have a cross bar and didn't want it mounted in front of the dash anyway. Took a while to figure out but I now have it hose-clamped to the left side of the bar. I ran the hose clamp between the bottom of the unit and the black plastic clamp that screws on to it so the hose clamp runs in line with the short axis of the unit (if that makes sense?). Bit of foam rubber between hose clamp and bar and it's good and tight. Also mounted it with "rewind" knob to the left to advance the paper because the normal advance knob would stick out too far to the left. Can upload a pic later if anyone's interested.

Paper gets way too tight to advance by turning the one knob so I may clearance the rollers (if I can get it apart without breaking things) or lube them or just wind some slack using the rewind knob before advancing the paper.

Anyone have any clever tricks for pasting/taping the paper sheets into a roll?

Transalper
4th January 2012, 15:16
.... or just wind some slack using the rewind knob before advancing the paper.Thats how I work my home made one. If the rollers are too loose things can unwind through vibration making it difficult to advance the roll and keep it on the correct cell. People have used rubber bands between rolls for tension to stop them unwinding but that didn't work for me either as the two rollers have to turn at different rates when rolling to the next instruction so friction and advance bottom, advance top is how I used mine.
Too much friction may be a pain in the hand though.



Anyone have any clever tricks for pasting/taping the paper sheets into a roll?
Yea, for me the slow way is the quickest and neatest way.
Trying to cut lots of pages at once makes a mess.
Use good long sharp scissors or craft knife with new blade and a good straight edge/steel rule to cut along (but not on the good table) and a good tape dispenser helps more and is less frustrating than cheap crap.
Think about the way you overlap the joins so they do not snag in the holder when rolling.
I took to taping both sides of the joins eventually but you need to trim the pages nicely to fit all that extra tape in the holder too.
These are my lessons learned from Capital Coasts, Canterbury Rides and DB1k's of past.

alane
4th January 2012, 16:22
Cut the paper sections abought 10mm long & use a glue stick.:niceone:
Makes life much easier.
It,s a fine line between to tight & to loose for the rolling action.
Too loose & vibration puts the roll all over the place.:(
Rubber bands between axles are worth trying .A trial run is recomended ---as thiers no time really after the Dusty,s started & the adrenilin,s pumpin.:apumpin:

1liter split Systema (Google it) home made jobbie is the best I ever had.:bleh:
Center "split" bit sits over the handlebar crossbrace just great
The roll running over wire axles with drinking straws on em to keep the viewed section near the lid.
Cheers Alan.

dmoo1790
4th January 2012, 16:45
Hi folks. I've done the Big Omarama Saddle and Serpentine before so I know how tough (or not) they are (at least when they're fairly dry). But I haven't done the Awakino Saddle and it looks the longest of the 3 challenges. How does it rate compared to Omarama and Serpentine? Just rocky stuff or does it have bogs as well? How steep are the climbs, scrabbling in 1st gear or easier? Any vids of Awakino?

Transalper
4th January 2012, 16:52
....Any vids of Awakino?

Oh you are so going to get your ass kicked for that question.
There are links all over the place to the Awakino video and many photos in last years threads.
Give me a minute or two and I'll post them again.

Um... also No bogs, plenty of steepness and many bigger stones.

Actually just remembered the Awakino video link is currently in my signature.
Here it is again... http://youtu.be/QwpJDWY6jFM

It's even linked to on the DB1K website in the Rider Prep page.

dmoo1790
4th January 2012, 16:53
I'm going to use my iPhone 3GS mounted in a RAM Aquabox for GPS nav in addition to the roll chart. The gpx file imports into the MotionX GPS app with no problems. It should give me an idea whether I'm heading in the right direction or hopelessly lost. Only problem (so far) is some of the Bing hybrid (sat photo+roads) maps don't seem to be available for download to reasonable zoom factors. Anyone else used an iPhone for this kind of offroad navigation and, if so, what app did you use?

FJRider
4th January 2012, 17:02
I'm going to use my iPhone 3GS mounted in a RAM Aquabox for GPS nav in addition to the roll chart. The gpx file imports into the MotionX GPS app with no problems. It should give me an idea whether I'm heading in the right direction or hopelessly lost. Only problem (so far) is some of the Bing hybrid (sat photo+roads) maps don't seem to be available for download to reasonable zoom factors. Anyone else used an iPhone for this kind of offroad navigation and, if so, what app did you use?

I hope it doesn't rely on cell reception to work ...

dmoo1790
4th January 2012, 17:10
I hope it doesn't rely on cell reception to work ...

Haha. I'll bite. No, you don't need cell reception so long as you've downloaded maps ahead of time. And you get an initial fix with cell reception which vastly speeds up time to lock.

dmoo1790
4th January 2012, 17:16
Oh you are so going to get your ass kicked for that question.
There are links all over the place to the Awakino video and many photos in last years threads.
Give me a minute or two and I'll post them again.

Um... also No bogs, plenty of steepness and many bigger stones.

Actually just remembered the Awakino video link is currently in my signature.
Here it is again... http://youtu.be/QwpJDWY6jFM

It's even linked to on the DB1K website in the Rider Prep page.

Doh! I knew that. Not thinking straight today I guess. Thanks for the link. Looks like a bit of a, what do you call it? Oh yeah, a challenge. :) Good tyres and momentum look like the solution to the trickier climbs. Respect to the guy on the GS! I would never attempt it on a bike that size.

Transalper
4th January 2012, 17:29
Tis well worth it as further on there is some amazing views and terrain.
Don't think it gets any harder than on the video though the bit where the big BMW was getting help was actually a kind of short cut up the middle of a zig zag in the track and if we had not turned up the hill when we did then we would have had a slightly easier time as the track went a little further forward then turned in a nicer way up and rejoined the top of that shortcut.
There was no specific instruction to turn there or not as either way worked I guess.

I would go into that challenge again on the DR but don't wish to subject the Transalp to it.

Lots of reports and some pics starting here from last years run. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/130674-DB1k-2011-official-thread/page29) but I'm sure there another thread hiding with other pics somewhere too.

This post by ADVGD (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/130674-DB1k-2011-official-thread?p=1129967756#post1129967756)has some good shots but posted a little small IMO. It includes some of the Friday Orari gorge stuff as well.

FJRider
4th January 2012, 18:18
Haha. I'll bite. No, you don't need cell reception so long as you've downloaded maps ahead of time. And you get an initial fix with cell reception which vastly speeds up time to lock.

Next silly question ...

Will there be enough power in the battery to allow continuous use of the maps ALL day.

dmoo1790
4th January 2012, 18:49
Next silly question ...

Will there be enough power in the battery to allow continuous use of the maps ALL day.

Nope. But the fine chaps at KTM have provided not one but two auxiliary 12V connectors behind the headlight. So all I need to do is wire up my 12V to 5V USB converter and all is sweet. Well maybe all except heat. If the weather is hot it's possible the phone might overheat inside the Aquabox. I'm not sure how I'll deal with this. Might have to make some holes for air flow but which can be sealed for waterproofing. Seems a bit daft since I ordered the Aquabox because it it's waterproof. Hmm. Maybe a metal heatsink through the case but sealed against water?

Ally67
5th January 2012, 15:11
Hi folks. I've done the Big Omarama Saddle and Serpentine before so I know how tough (or not) they are (at least when they're fairly dry). But I haven't done the Awakino Saddle and it looks the longest of the 3 challenges. How does it rate compared to Omarama and Serpentine? Just rocky stuff or does it have bogs as well? How steep are the climbs, scrabbling in 1st gear or easier? Any vids of Awakino?

How tough ?
I've done Awakino last year :banana: But I had to follow the navigator or get lost :eek:
But I did feel great when we got to the end of that section and only coming off once towards the end was bloody good I thought :second:

So if I can do it with skinny little stick arms you shouldn't have any problems :rolleyes:

dmoo1790
5th January 2012, 15:36
Nope. But the fine chaps at KTM have provided not one but two auxiliary 12V connectors behind the headlight. So all I need to do is wire up my 12V to 5V USB converter and all is sweet. Well maybe all except heat. If the weather is hot it's possible the phone might overheat inside the Aquabox. I'm not sure how I'll deal with this. Might have to make some holes for air flow but which can be sealed for waterproofing. Seems a bit daft since I ordered the Aquabox because it it's waterproof. Hmm. Maybe a metal heatsink through the case but sealed against water?

Just went for test ride and I think I'll give up on the phone because it got mega hot and the display is really hard to see in bright sunlight.

dmoo1790
5th January 2012, 15:41
So if I can do it with skinny little stick arms you shouldn't have any problems :rolleyes:

Hey you haven't seen my skinny arms. :) Anyway I will give it a go. Actually when I do have problems it's usually down to lack of talent rather than lack of strength. I think if you're really working hard then you're probably doing it wrong (in most cases).

NordieBoy
5th January 2012, 15:51
How tough ?
I've done Awakino last year :banana: But I had to follow the navigator or get lost :eek:
But I did feel great when we got to the end of that section and only coming off once towards the end was bloody good I thought :second:

So if I can do it with skinny little stick arms you shouldn't have any problems :rolleyes:

Allie, remember to log out before you let Jatz use the computer...




:D

MXNUT
5th January 2012, 15:52
So as the DRZ is still in bits at the moment :(( long story ) i am going to be taking the wifes DR650 down to the dusty butt, as i have only riden this bike off road once before i have a question for you seasoned DR650 Dusty Butt Riders.

I have a 14 tooth countershaft sprocket at home for it but are currently running the standard gearing (15/41 ) ,which i find 1st gear is quite high.
I am planning on doing all the challenge sections that i can, and wondered if i should fit the smaller front sprocket.

What do you guys recommend ???? :blank:

Does the smaller countershaft sprocket affect the fuel consumption / tank range by much as my riding style is not known for getting good fuel consumption :(

NordieBoy
5th January 2012, 16:05
So as the DRZ is still in bits at the moment :(( long story ) i am going to be taking the wifes DR650 down to the dusty butt, as i have only riden this bike off road once before i have a question for you seasoned DR650 Dusty Butt Riders.

I have a 14 tooth countershaft sprocket at home for it but are currently running the standard gearing (15/41 ) ,which i find 1st gear is quite high.
I am planning on doing all the challenge sections that i can, and wondered if i should fit the smaller front sprocket.

What do you guys recommend ???? :blank:

Does the smaller countershaft sprocket affect the fuel consumption / tank range by much as my riding style is not known for getting good fuel consumption :(

Do it.
Negligible fuel range difference.

I'm running the equiv of 14/43 (15/46) and it cruises at 110kph quite well.

Take both sprockets.
Use the 15t for the run down and the 14t for the Dusty. 15t back on for the run back.
Less than 5mins to swap them...

Transalper
5th January 2012, 19:33
I do everything on my DR650 on 15/43 now days including the challenge sections last year.

Aslan
5th January 2012, 20:10
I do everything on my DR650 on 15/43 now days including the challenge sections last year.

I'm with Transapler on this one Mark - I found the 14T wore too quickly so swapped back to standard gearing

Transalper
5th January 2012, 20:16
Original was 15/41.
Tried 14/41, was fine but as Aslan said 15 front is better for wear (for the front sprocket at least) and 15/43 is basically the same feel as 14/41.
The original 15/41 lugged too much for me in too many situations even around town etc at the speeds I seem to like.

Guess what I'm saying is yes if doing it for this trip with 41 rear then I'd throw on the 14 front.

Trials Rider
5th January 2012, 21:03
I run 15/44 as standard as I like to keep a larger wrap around on the sprockets for better wear however I will be using 14/44 for the DB, top speed is not an issue and never has been, its the technical creeks, boulders, tight turns and the deep shingle that gets you, save fanging the shit out of the clutch too.

I am also trying the new 150 wide E07 on the rear should be lots of fun.

NordieBoy
5th January 2012, 21:07
I run 15/44 as standard and will be using 14/44 for the DB, top speed is not an issue and never has been, its the technical creeks, boulders, tight turns and the deep shingle that gets you.

I am also trying the new 150 wide E07 on the rear should be lots of fun.

I'll probably use 16/46 for the run down and 14/46 on the DB.

I'll be carrying 14/15/16 fronts.

My rear is a 120 :D

Trials Rider
5th January 2012, 21:12
Just as suggestion last year was my first year on the BD so I put my "TRIALS RIDER" name on the front of my bike, I had a lot of good comments for it, you guys put a lot of good info on the forum which I really like, even better would be to put a face to the name, only a suggestion but thought it might be a bit more social knowing who you see on the way.

Trials Rider
5th January 2012, 21:17
I'll probably use 16/46 for the run down and 14/46 on the DB.

I'll be carrying 14/15/16 fronts.

My rear is a 120 :D

At least with a 120 sprocket you wouldn't need to worry about a flat tyre, just ride the sprocket home, should get 80 kph out of it

cooneyr
5th January 2012, 21:44
Just as suggestion last year was my first year on the BD so I put my "TRIALS RIDER" name on the front of my bike, I had a lot of good comments for it, you guys put a lot of good info on the forum which I really like, even better would be to put a face to the name, only a suggestion but thought it might be a bit more social knowing who you see on the way.

This is a good idea. I'm going to see if I can do something similar.

Cheers R

Trials Rider
6th January 2012, 08:22
This is a good idea. I'm going to see if I can do something similar.

Cheers R

It was easy to make, I used Arial front, bold, size 90 and 50mm wide packing tape to stick it on and make it water proof, has been on there since last DB, piece of cake to make, even bro Andi could do it with one hand.

I have attached a picture of mine to you can see what it looks like.

XF650
6th January 2012, 08:30
It is important to be self supported on the DB & riders should ideally carry any (extra) fuel they may need, as per the fuel stop chart.
However, if like me you are stuck with a piddly fuel range, PM me to discuss another option on the Lawerence to St Bathans leg.
Please note this is not an "official" alternative to being self sufficient.

_Shrek_
6th January 2012, 14:43
It was easy to make, I used Arial front, bold, size 90 and 50mm wide packing tape to stick it on and make it water proof, has been on there since last DB, piece of cake to make, even bro Andi could do it with one hand.

I have attached a picture of mine to you can see what it looks like.

:scratch: I don't spell good will this do :whistle:

254553

Trials Rider
6th January 2012, 15:26
:scratch: I don't spell good will this do :whistle:

254553

For you "big green buddy" there is no mistake, there is only one Shrek.

Monstaman
7th January 2012, 15:25
piece of cake to make, even bro Andi could do it with one hand.

Ouwh bash a man when he is down ... I know where you live. :bleh:

Well I got screwed yesterday, thankfully by an orthopaedic surgeon.

Finger is screwed back together with a 1.3mm Titanium screw, now the waiting/get well/get fit/get physio game starts.

Thanks to Mark (cold comfort) for coming and visiting me before I went in for my chop.

Struan, Ellen flys back in from China I think on Saturday so I maybe able to help with a fuel stop on the Sunday if required, let me know if you need help and I will find out when the boss flys back in.

Taz
7th January 2012, 19:13
Good luck monsta

I just started back at work today after having my finger screwed 2 months ago!! It still don't bend right.

_Shrek_
7th January 2012, 20:34
Finger is screwed back together with a 1.3mm Titanium screw,

:kick: so what did they do with ya brain :sherlock:

Padmei
7th January 2012, 20:40
:kick: so what did they do with ya brain :sherlock:

Speaking of brains... get your bike off steering lock?:devil2::lol:

Trials Rider
7th January 2012, 21:06
Speaking of brains... get your bike off steering lock?:devil2::lol:

Well well well it seems that the big green guy has a story to tell, come on Shrek spill the beans, I thought Andi and I were the only ones having blonde moments.

JATZ
7th January 2012, 21:08
Speaking of brains... get your bike off steering lock?:devil2::lol:

:corn: :scratch:

_Shrek_
7th January 2012, 21:23
Speaking of brains... get your bike off steering lock?:devil2::lol:

aye finished it about an hour ago all back together,

I stripped the stearing down & took the barrel off, & had to drill another hole on the opposite side of the barrel to get the tumblers out, something has let go in the stearing lock
once the tumblers were out, I use a large screw driver to put the stearing lock in the off position had to use a fair bit of force to get it back :shifty: it is now stuck in the unlock.... :rolleyes:
as I had a new tumbler (in caboard from preivous bike) fitted that put it all back to gether & running :bleh:

_Shrek_
7th January 2012, 21:25
Well well well it seems that the big green guy has a story to tell, come on Shrek spill the beans, I thought Andi and I were the only ones having blonde moments.

:confused: i don't have any blond hair

GSers
7th January 2012, 21:53
Sorry guys just got to reading my PM from BMWRSNUT. I have been in the shed all day but looks like you have got it sorted. The manual says to drill out the old barrel if you want to PM me with your email address I can send you a copy of the 1100 BMW W/S manual the 1150 is near enough the same with most of the parts. It is 24Mb though not good if you are still on dial up. I may have a S/Hand lock assembly sitting in the shed as well
GSers

Padmei
8th January 2012, 08:11
Far out - so it wasn't a quick fix then:confused:. Well done for getting it sorted.:clap:

timg
8th January 2012, 08:45
This is a good idea. I'm going to see if I can do something similar.

Cheers R You guys slo or summit? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/135314-My-KTM-625-SXC-Adventure-bike-build?p=1130019723#post1130019723 :bleh:

Monstaman
8th January 2012, 09:10
:kick: so what did they do with ya brain :sherlock:

..thay cudnt finddd 1 but thay said mi knew finga wud be like a compasss so i can fin norf easia :laugh:

Beem02
8th January 2012, 12:48
Time for the embarrassment and dissing. Thanks to TA and TimG for their assistance. Check out this vid on youtube about getting the DB1k files onto various GPS models. Apologies for the crap narration. I'll be putting a link on the DB1k website as well.

Cheers R


Thanks for taking the time to create the GPS tutorial. Very helpful for someone who is new to using a GPS :niceone:

After seeing this I had no problems downloading the route files - But I'm not so sure about following them, will find out in a couple of weeks!

Regards, Bruce

cold comfort
8th January 2012, 20:10
..thay cudnt finddd 1 but thay said mi knew finga wud be like a compasss so i can fin norf easia :laugh:

Sounds like the anaesthetic is still working. As a recent recipient, the operation sucks but the drugs are great!:shifty:

CrazyFrog
8th January 2012, 20:37
I've got a spare bed (possibly two) available in Alexandra for Sat night two day riders, sharing with two others riders from Nelson, myself and Umopom.
We chose to go for a decent motel room for $55 each at www.alexandraheights.co.nz which looks pretty nice and is a good alternative to the $35 prison cell rooms at the Alex Holiday park (IMO) :msn-wink:

PM if you're keen.
Cheers, CF

_Shrek_
8th January 2012, 20:45
:corn: :scratch:

:Offtopic: I see ya got mrs Jatz arse az you're avatar :drool: nice choice :msn-wink:

JATZ
8th January 2012, 21:01
:Offtopic: I see ya got mrs Jatz arse az you're avatar :drool: nice choice :msn-wink:

:shit: I forgot that was there, I dont have avatars enabled, I'll leave it. for now, if'n your enjoying it :msn-wink:

Trials Rider
8th January 2012, 21:33
:niceone::niceone:
:shit: I forgot that was there, I dont have avatars enabled, I'll leave it. for now, if'n your enjoying it :msn-wink:

Well if we get a choice between this one or Piglets arse, I think we will stick to this one, sorry Piglet you miss out this time.:niceone::niceone::niceone:

Shoshoni
10th January 2012, 09:23
Well I'm out now had a accident up on the Summit Rd, guy in his 4WD trying to make a 3 point turn on a blind corner :eek5::crazy::mad:. Brushed of the tyre on back of his truck and landed in the grass on other side of the road.

NordieBoy
10th January 2012, 10:30
Ouch !

Transalper
10th January 2012, 10:33
Shit man, hope you can get him in trouble with the law.

Damage to you or the bike or both?

Shoshoni
10th January 2012, 10:56
Shit man, hope you can get him in trouble with the law.

Damage to you or the bike or both?

Both me and the bike took damage, front wheel cracked hub, rotor is bent, broken spokes, handlebars stem bolts are bent looks like the front wheel caught his tow bar. My legs are saw today a lot of bruising along with my right thumb. He's a young guy he said he was going back up the road to have a look at the hang gliders and he admitted it was his fault, I was going to miss him I was already over the white center line to get past but he backed up again and WHAM!.

cold comfort
10th January 2012, 11:22
Three point turns on blind corners? Maybe he has had police training. Clearly you must have been "speeding" otherwise you would have avoided him.;) Seriously though, good to hear you're in once piece- shame about missing the DBK.

cooneyr
10th January 2012, 11:47
Both me and the bike took damage, front wheel cracked hub, rotor is bent, broken spokes, handlebars stem bolts are bent looks like the front wheel caught his tow bar. My legs are saw today a lot of bruising along with my right thumb. He's a young guy he said he was going back up the road to have a look at the hang gliders and he admitted it was his fault, I was going to miss him I was already over the white center line to get past but he backed up again and WHAM!.

Bugger, that sucks. Make sure you follow up re a police report and insurance. It sounds like there is enough damage that it might cost a bob or two. I'll be in touch via email re the Dusty.


Three point turns on blind corners? Maybe he has had police training. Clearly you must have been "speeding" otherwise you would have avoided him.;) Seriously though, good to hear you're in once piece- shame about missing the DBK.

LOL - I like the speeding comment given other recent discussions.

Cheers R

alane
10th January 2012, 12:02
Both me and the bike took damage, front wheel cracked hub, rotor is bent, broken spokes, handlebars stem bolts are bent looks like the front wheel caught his tow bar. My legs are saw today a lot of bruising along with my right thumb. He's a young guy he said he was going back up the road to have a look at the hang gliders and he admitted it was his fault, I was going to miss him I was already over the white center line to get past but he backed up again and WHAM!.

If your physicily up to it,Shoshoni,someone might lend you the parts to resarect your bike for the Dusty.:yes:

graeme
10th January 2012, 18:44
what sort of help do you need? do you want to learn how to get the most out of your Zumo (talk to one of the techsperts) or if you just want the DB1k loaded on to your gps I can probably help

Hi Crim can you give me a call re downloading to the zumo. Cheers graeme

graeme
10th January 2012, 18:45
Hi Crim can you give me a call re downloading to the zumo. Cheers graeme

Phone number 9818217

graeme
10th January 2012, 19:34
I've got one too. What's the problem? Need to use less than 200 points. Lotsa good info here .... http://www.zumoforums.com/ Away for Xmas but happy to help after the new year. Cheers.

Hi Timg can you give me a call on 9818217, thanks graeme

cooneyr
10th January 2012, 19:34
Hi Crim can you give me a call re downloading to the zumo. Cheers graeme

Hi Graeme. Have you seen this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLs28xfttnw&feature=youtu.be) that Transalper and I put together? A Zumo is one of the GPS's we specifically cover re getting the DB1k files onto it and then using them.

Cheers R

graeme
11th January 2012, 11:23
Hi Graeme. Have you seen this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLs28xfttnw&feature=youtu.be) that Transalper and I put together? A Zumo is one of the GPS's we specifically cover re getting the DB1k files onto it and then using them.

Cheers R

Thanks Ryan seeing cris at the weekend to sort it . cheers graeme

Transalper
12th January 2012, 16:25
Not long now, just been browsing the rider list etc.
I see we have 116 people with their names down now and I also see Entries will close at 5pm on Sunday the 15th January 2012


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(As before it's Chch time zone but gathering in Fairlie) :wait:

_Shrek_
12th January 2012, 16:33
Secret Squirrel Riders, I can see why one would hide who he is as he riding a KTM :dodge:

Trials Rider
12th January 2012, 20:15
Secret Squirrel Riders, I can see why one would hide who he is as he riding a KTM :dodge:

How to you hide something that big and bright orange, lying it on its side in the bushes maybe:bleh::bleh::bleh:

cynna
13th January 2012, 08:03
is anyone still after accomodation - someone has had to pull out so there is a single room available at the gladstone for friday night and sunday night and a room on sat at alex shared with me.

may fit another person in at alex to make it cheaper but i will have to check to see if there are 3 beds

alane
14th January 2012, 06:41
Checked METSERVICE seven day rain forcast

Early days yet----but it,s looking PRIMO for the ride down from the NI.:niceone:--with big highs over the whole country. :scooter: :woohoo: --- for later in the week.

Padmei
14th January 2012, 11:32
Teeny tiny fire extinguishers- where are some good sources?
Nordie you got a few in the emporium?

Trials Rider
14th January 2012, 12:12
Checked METSERVICE seven day rain forcast

Early days yet----but it,s looking PRIMO for the ride down from the NI.:niceone:--with big highs over the whole country. :scooter: :woohoo: --- for later in the week.

Doesn't look to bad, anyway no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing. Even if we get wet as we will look back and say remember that F%#king DB in 2012, wasn't that fun:niceone:

_Shrek_
14th January 2012, 12:48
Teeny tiny fire extinguishers- where are some good sources?
Nordie you got a few in the emporium?

mita 10 where selling them for about $25 from memory

cooneyr
14th January 2012, 12:49
Teeny tiny fire extinguishers- where are some good sources?
Nordie you got a few in the emporium?

Bunnings, The Warehouse, Mitre 10 usually have aerosol 300ml ish extinguishers. See this one
http://www.firstalert.co.nz/wawcs0142795/tundra_extinguishers.html

You obviously haven't read the rider prep page (http://www.db1k.com/rider-preparation.php) cause all this is on it. :spanking:

Cheers R

_Shrek_
14th January 2012, 13:13
You obviously haven't read the rider prep page (http://www.db1k.com/rider-preparation.php) cause all this is on it. :spanking:

Cheers R

:laugh: I knew I'd read it some where cheers R :apint:

FJRider
14th January 2012, 13:30
This is a good site for fairly accurate weather forecasts ...

http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nz

ADVGD
14th January 2012, 14:06
Howdy folks, I'm back! I had to trim a couple of days off the trip due to completely chewing out my rear tyre, I may have been a little too generous on the throttle ;) Aside from that I've had 3 weeks of riding and fishing with not one day of rain to speak of, unbelievably brilliant! A few days for maintenance, re-prep the bike and head off again kicking straight into the DB1K, can't wait!

I just rode a good portion of the DB1K challenge sections on the way back up, through Mt Buster to Walking Spur, Manuherikia West Branch and as always a fantastic ride with stunning views. For those that have not yet done this run you are in for a treat, a real treat. Walking Spur has definitely seen a lot of 4X4 traffic through the summer months and compacted some of the loose rock sections near Johnstones Creek but don’t be fooled that it is going to be easy, there are still plenty of gnarly loose rocky sections to tackle! Manuherikia water levels are surprisingly high considering the dry weather of late, the following article may be handy for getting through the water sections trouble free:

Link > Plumbing carburettors for deep water crossings (http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/100/carb-breather-plumbing.php)

Padmei
14th January 2012, 14:24
You obviously haven't read the rider prep page (http://www.db1k.com/rider-preparation.php) cause all this is on it. :spanking:

Cheers R

Well yes indeedy I did read that just before I posted so up ya bum:bleh: I know you can get normal sized ones but was after a small one I have seen on other bikes


I just rode a good portion of the DB1K challenge sections on the way back up, through Mt Buster to Walking Spur, Manuherikia West Branch and as always a fantastic ride with stunning views. For those that have not yet done this run you are in for a treat, a real treat. Walking Spur has definitely seen a lot of 4X4 traffic through the summer months and compacted some of the loose rock sections near Johnstones Creek but don’t be fooled that it is going to be easy, there are still plenty of gnarly loose rocky sections to tackle! Manuherikia water levels are surprisingly high considering the dry weather of late, the following article may be handy for getting through the water sections trouble free:

Link > Plumbing carburettors for deep water crossings (http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/100/carb-breather-plumbing.php)

Hey Josh. Good to hear you're safe & bike's ok. Are any of the crossings on the non- challenge sections very high do you know? I take it since there hasn't been much rain down there they should be pretty dry?

ADVGD
14th January 2012, 14:41
Hey Josh. Good to hear you're safe & bike's ok.

The bike is running really well, pros and cons as you get with all adventure bikes, but impressed so far


Are any of the crossings on the non- challenge sections very high do you know? I take it since there hasn't been much rain down there they should be pretty dry?

Omarama locals and farmers from the Lake Benmore area claim they continued to receive rain where many other areas down south have missed it so at this stage the river levels are sitting a tad below where they were at the time of the DB1k 2011, nothing to cause any issue for the non-challenge sections. The only major I can think of is the single Manuherikia West Branch crossing to get up the Manuherikia East Branch. Pick the right line though and it will be all of only axle to 3/4 wheel deep