DB1K - Dusty Butt 1000 2013

[gpcustom]

272961272962got my fuel/Rocket cans done now :doobey:

[Trials Rider]

272961272962got my fuel/Rocket cans done now :doobey:

Well if thats the way you having them on the bike you will do two things, stop very fast :eek5: and have a burnt ass :facepalm: :shit: :shit: :shit:

[gpcustom]

:psst:im actually a moonshine runner but dont tell mr :Police:

[NordieBoy]

got my fuel/Rocket cans done now :doobey:

So one is the fire extinguisher and one is full of petrol...

[cooneyr]

all good....

It was saying... GPS files not available till Dec 2013..
dam puters...

Don't believe anything you see - some geek will change it before you can blink


got my fuel/Rocket cans done now :doobey:

You've got some skills dude. Very nice. You really do need to turn them around though.

Cheers R

[Trials Rider]

So one is the fire extinguisher and one is full of petrol...

So which is which, you would get a weeee surprise if you get it wrong :Oops:

[NordieBoy]

So which is which, you would get a weeee surprise if you get it wrong :Oops:

So could the person you're trying to put out :D

[gpcustom]

So which is which, you would get a weeee surprise if you get it wrong :Oops:

There both fuel.

and have turnt them around now. I got this wolfman dirt bike tank bag from ebay 272981272982

[NordieBoy]

There both fuel.

Yeah right.

Which has the Vodka?

[gpcustom]

Yeah right.

Which has the Vodka?

now i cant giveaway all the secrets. Wheres the fun in that:drinkup:

[_Shrek_]

Oooooh what cabin? I haven't got one sorted yet:love:

we have an xtra bed in ours :shifty: could work some thing out here

[ADVGD]

70% of the rider spots have been filled, but no 24 hour riders so far...

[gpcustom]

70% of the rider spots have been filled, but no 24 hour riders so far...

There was one 24hour rider but must have had it chaned to a 2 day ride ??

[cooneyr]

70% of the rider spots have been filled, but no 24 hour riders so far...

Filling fast! Keeping me busy!


There was one 24hour rider but must have had it chaned to a 2 day ride ??

Aye - hit the wrong choice.

Cheers R

[Adux]

Hi All

New to the DB and this navigation lark, know the theory but have never attempted previously. I gather that the roll sheet holders are home made, if so any assistance on their construction would be greatly appreciated.

Equally I see the route is also available for GPS, what are the minimum system requirements for this? I have a Garmin e-trex with fresh maps, is this suitable?

As a newbie to this all advice greatly appreciated (already know not to eat yellow snow)::yes:

Cheers

[_Shrek_]

(already know not to eat yellow snow)::yes: Cheers

:Offtopic: but you can lick it once it has frozen :done:

[cooneyr]

Hi All

New to the DB and this navigation lark, know the theory but have never attempted previously. I gather that the roll sheet holders are home made, if so any assistance on their construction would be greatly appreciated.

Equally I see the route is also available for GPS, what are the minimum system requirements for this? I have a Garmin e-trex with fresh maps, is this suitable?

As a newbie to this all advice greatly appreciated (already know not to eat yellow snow)::yes:

Cheers

Gidday Adux,

Did you happen to be in a meeting with me this afternoon i.e. are you who I think you are? 11l tank for a KLX250s discussion?

If you have an Etrex with fresh maps it will be most likely be OK. Can you tell me which model i.e. Legend, Vista etc?

Also re building a roll chart holder try this - http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7TO4NNER/title/torpedo7-enduro-route-sheet-holder

Cheers
Ryan

[Transalper]

....
Also re building a roll chart holder try this - http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7TO4NNER/title/torpedo7-enduro-route-sheet-holder

Cheers
Ryan

Bearing in mind the T7 one doesn't work as good as it looks... so I've heard several times.

Plastic container, bit of dowel, some knobs, a drill and you've pretty much got the basics sorted for making something.

[dmoo1790]

Bearing in mind the T7 one doesn't work as good as it looks... so I've heard several times.

It's certainly not waterproof. Well not when submerged anyway. :facepalm:

[ADVGD]

I'm a GPS man but if I were to use a roll chart I'd go Touratech as they do some sweet units. The Touratech Motorised Roadbook would be the business

http://www.touratech-usa.com/media/pboTqm/01-020-0012-0_I_01.JPG?size=prodfull

Or the Touratech Compact Roadbook

http://www.touratech-usa.com/media/zkxHqU/IMG_3729.jpg?size=prodfull

Website info here Touratech (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/3177/Rallye-Parts)

[Padmei]

last year I used the gps but had the rollchart photocopied on A4 in a clear file for incase i get lost I can backtrack & find out which gate I was sposed to go thru....


then I just followed Struan...

[ADVGD]

Crappy website with no online purchasing, but a few different lower priced options, brackets and lighting: Roll Chart Products (http://www.fourstrokesonly.com/RouteChartsPlus.html)

[pomgolian]

From http://www.motoone.co.nz side load so you can take it indoors load your roll chart then easy fit back on bike - seems to work well although quite small but should get a week of charts into it for Picton to start of DBK1 which is plenty.

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[gpcustom]

i just bought a Garmin Dakota 20 from ebay. Was looking at them and thats what the guy at Nav com recomended to get. It was gana be $520 here got from ebay $257 nz including shiping. Allso will be looking at diffrent tyres as the Bridgeston gritty ones i got are crap:bs:

[_Shrek_]

then I just followed Struan...

then what, got cell phone coverage to find out where you are :nya:

[NordieBoy]

i just bought a Garmin Dakota 20 from ebay. Was looking at them and thats what the guy at Nav com recomended to get. It was gana be $520 here got from ebay $257 nz including shiping. Allso will be looking at diffrent tyres as the Bridgeston gritty ones i got are crap:bs:

Nice. Looks to be the same as my Oregon 300 but with a lower res screen.

[gpcustom]

Nice. Looks to be the same as my Oregon 300 but with a lower res screen.

Oh sweet so do you think it will be ok im not up with all the gps stuff:blank:

[NordieBoy]

Oh sweet so do you think it will be ok im not up with all the gps stuff:blank:

It'll be sweet.

Get a RAM mount setup for it.

[Adux]

Gidday Adux,

Did you happen to be in a meeting with me this afternoon i.e. are you who I think you are? 11l tank for a KLX250s discussion?

If you have an Etrex with fresh maps it will be most likely be OK. Can you tell me which model i.e. Legend, Vista etc?

Also re building a roll chart holder try this - http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7TO4NNER/title/torpedo7-enduro-route-sheet-holder

Cheers
Ryan


Indeed I did happen to be in a meeting with you yesterday afternoon.

Thanks for the links, Etrex is a Legend HCx but I quite fancy trying the road book type navigation as I have never done it before. The Touratech units look Gucci but are pretty expensive, will perhaps load up with both and compare on the day.

More likely I will just cheat and follow someone!

Cheers

[cold comfort]

It'll be sweet.

Get a RAM mount setup for it.

Like the man says- the RAM mounts work well. Adapted a Radar Detector mount for the roll chart and can switch for the GPS if required on the same handlebar mount. Open to any bright lightweight additional fuel options for the KTM. Can't find anything on the net/or ADVrider. Could take the Tiger but just too much of a handful and have already drowned it once- not something to be repeated.

[Transalper]

.... Open to any bright lightweight additional fuel options for the KTM. Can't find anything on the net/or ADVrider. Could take the Tiger but just too much of a handful and have already drowned it once- not something to be repeated.

Yep, you'll have more fun on the lightweight KTM, even with a fuel can strapped on back.
When I used a can last year I left it empty until the leg I knew I was likely to need it.

Wow, hard to believe how fast the ride is filling, only 9 spots left!

[gpcustom]

Like the man says- the RAM mounts work well. Adapted a Radar Detector mount for the roll chart and can switch for the GPS if required on the same handlebar mount. Open to any bright lightweight additional fuel options for the KTM. Can't find anything on the net/or ADVrider. Could take the Tiger but just too much of a handful and have already drowned it once- not something to be repeated.

I dont know if i will use my cans i made i think there gana be a hassel
http://www.kathmandu.co.nz/multi-fuel-bottle-600ml-orange.html im thinking something like this

[ADVGD]

I dont know if i will use my cans i made i think there gana be a hassel
http://www.kathmandu.co.nz/multi-fuel-bottle-600ml-orange.html im thinking something like this

If you're going down that path I'd recommend MSR bottles over any overpriced Chinese imported Kathmandu shit. MSR (Mountain Safety Research) equipment is top notch, I have bashed my MSR bottles around for years riding and backpacking and they are strong as hell. The MSR also do three sizes including an 887ml

http://www.bivouac.co.nz/msr-fuel-bottle.html


Wow, hard to believe how fast the ride is filling, only 9 spots left!

Yeah very fast, now only 4 spots left!!

[Transalper]

I looked at the small bottles several years ago and decided I did not want to try filling through that small neck and was told garages don't like it when you can't stick their pump nozzles in the bottle. That's why I just pack a cheaper, proper 4 Litre plastic fuel can.

[gpcustom]

If you're going down that path I'd recommend MSR bottles over any overpriced Chinese imported Kathmandu shit. MSR (Mountain Search & Rescue) equipment is top notch, I have bashed my MSR bottles around for years riding and backpacking and they are strong as hell. The MSR also do three sizes including an 887ml

http://www.bivouac.co.nz/msr-fuel-bottle.html



Yeah very fast, now only 4 spots left!!

Thanks will take a look they have a store in dunedin :clap:

My gps has just arived just fited it to the bike

[gpcustom]

Hmmm 23 SUZUKI DR650's:crazy:

[Buddha#81]

Hmmm 23 SUZUKI DR650's:crazy:

must be a good number of learners doing the dusty this year.......or they would go and get a big boys bike ya think?

[cold comfort]

[QUOTE=ADVGD;1130433786]If you're going down that path I'd recommend MSR bottles over any overpriced Chinese imported Kathmandu shit. MSR (Mountain Search & Rescue) equipment is top notch, I have bashed my MSR bottles around for years riding and backpacking and they are strong as hell. The MSR also do three sizes including an 887ml

http://www.bivouac.co.nz/msr-fuel-bottle.html


Like the durability not the price though. Nowhere to strap a 4 litre container on (had enough of one of those falling off the DR). Was thinking along the lines of a 2 liter plastic job strapped on to the rear guard. Maybe the coke bottle will have to do...

[NordieBoy]

MSR also = Malcolm Smith Racing.

[Crim]

Like the durability not the price though. Nowhere to strap a 4 litre container on (had enough of one of those falling off the DR). Was thinking along the lines of a 2 liter plastic job strapped on to the rear guard. Maybe the coke bottle will have to do...

what about
http://nomadtanks.com.au/Tanks.php

This too much fuel for the DB1k?

[Transalper]

And that's it.... the ride is FULL, registration is closed. Well done everyone who got in. 9 weeks :apumpin: then we :ride:

[gpcustom]

[QUOTE=ADVGD;1130433786]If you're going down that path I'd recommend MSR bottles over any overpriced Chinese imported Kathmandu shit. MSR (Mountain Search & Rescue) equipment is top notch, I have bashed my MSR bottles around for years riding and backpacking and they are strong as hell. The MSR also do three sizes including an 887ml

http://www.bivouac.co.nz/msr-fuel-bottle.html


Like the durability not the price though. Nowhere to strap a 4 litre container on (had enough of one of those falling off the DR). Was thinking along the lines of a 2 liter plastic job strapped on to the rear guard. Maybe the coke bottle will have to do...

Hey ill help you out. Im going to make a new rear rack as im not happy with mine. So i will make 2 at the same time. Your frame is probley a little diffrent to mine as your bikes a bit newer:yeah: We will get it sorted

[gpcustom]

ALL 150 SPOTS ARE NOW GONE:motu:


EDIT: Transalper bet me to it

[_Shrek_]

This too much fuel for the DB1k?

thats about what the Rena takes :blip:

[cold comfort]

what about
http://nomadtanks.com.au/Tanks.php

This too much fuel for the DB1k?

Haha. looks about right. As for the Nomad tanks..bloody brilliant! Thanks for that. Exactly what i had in mind.:woohoo: Going to Aussie in Dec so may try to pick one up there as over being ripped off by NZ Customs.

[cold comfort]

[QUOTE=cold comfort;1130433909]

Hey ill help you out. Im going to make a new rear rack as im not happy with mine. So i will make 2 at the same time. Your frame is probley a little diffrent to mine as your bikes a bit newer:yeah: We will get it sorted

I think any frame would get in the way of the bag but definitely worth looking at.


Hmmm 23 SUZUKI DR650's:crazy:

The question is do they all have "suitable" bash plates?

[Woodman]

Hmmm 23 SUZUKI DR650's:crazy:

They are like assholes, everyones got one.

3 Klrs now so its a fair fight.

[gpcustom]

I bought two 1.2 litre alloy drink bottels today $5 each. Ive put gas in them and so far there good as. Will leave them for a week ride around with them and see what happens. Looked at some fuel bottels aswell but cant see any diffrence between them except the price. The drink bottel seals would be diffrent i spouse. But they could be changed. Only time will tell :sweatdrop

[CrazyFrog]

I bought two 1.2 litre alloy drink bottels today $5 each. Ive put gas in them and so far there good as. Will leave them for a week ride around with them and see what happens. Looked at some fuel bottels aswell but cant see any diffrence between them except the price. The drink bottle seals would be diffrent i spouse. But they could be changed. Only time will tell :sweatdrop

The aluminium water bottle tops (screw in type) usually degrade with fuel in them after a day or so, due being the wrong type of plastic for fuel storage. Make sure you check the plastic threads after a couple of days on those ali bottle tops before setting off on any trip. I tried that, and rooted the shitty bottle tops, but managed to get replacement MSR fuel specific cap to fit the bottle. A good fabricator could prolly turn up some nice aluminium threaded ones, add a fuel o-ring and you're sorted.
Either way, still a cheaper exercise than buying original MSR fuel bottle for $40 each.

[gpcustom]

Yea i thoght they might but its worth a shot.

Just lookig at some stuff i had lying around i have 2 brand new drz400 Clutch levers still in there packets. I will bring them with me so if anyone breaks a lever on the ride you know ive got a couple

[Hillbilly110]

Yea i thoght they might but its worth a shot.

Just lookig at some stuff i had lying around i have 2 brand new drz400 Clutch levers still in there packets. I will bring them with me so if anyone breaks a lever on the ride you know ive got a couple

Awesome....that's less weight to hump down from the North. Was worried they'd call them levers a weapon on the Ferry but I'm safe now.

[Tigerpig]

must be a good number of learners doing the dusty this year.......or they would go and get a big boys bike ya think?

Yeah, still learning after 40+ years and 20+ bikes. Maybe if I keep going, one day i'll get the hang of it........ Watch out for those DRs they're everywhere.

[brp]

Have decided to run with the Tractionator H/T for the Dusty Butt - think the Heavy Terrain Tractionator will be perfect for rocky Central Otago - designed for such enviroment - good grip and around half the price of Mitas etc. Couple of guys used them last year with good results.


5 enquires to online retailers - 3 never replied ..... 1 who I had purchased tyres off previously couldn't be bothered contacting the supplier to see if he could source me a 110/18

The retailer that came up trumps was the original sponsor of this site - Mathew at Mr Motorcycles,
really impressed with his service - the extra distance he goes. If anyone else is interested in the tractionators or other brands they carry, if your required size is not listed on the site just contact Mathew and he will source them for you .....

http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz/tyres/off-road

[Adux]

Being a first time DB'er and without measuring the route and doing all the hard work myself, what is the rough breakdown of road surface as a %, seal, unseal, 4x4 etc?

[_Shrek_]

Being a first time DB'er and without measuring the route and doing all the hard work myself, what is the rough breakdown of road surface as a %, seal, unseal, 4x4 etc?

:scratch: have no idea :corn:

[Transalper]

Being a first time DB'er and without measuring the route and doing all the hard work myself, what is the rough breakdown of road surface as a %, seal, unseal, 4x4 etc?

Don't you want it to be a surprise.
Guarantee you'll spend a lot more time off the seal than on it and more again if you are choosing the challenge options.
It's going to be all down to opinion as to when a gravel road becomes classified as 4x4 stuff.

[Transalper]

It starts off something like this.... 800m seal.... 17km gravel/grass... 2.9km seal.... 25km gravel/dirt....
In that lot there is already 3 bits boarder line 4x4 stuff certainly not dooable in my 2wd Van and possibly wet feet.
There are longer sealed sections later as well as longer unsealed bits.
Getting enough of the picture?

[Adux]

It starts off something like this.... 800m seal.... 17km gravel/grass... 2.9km seal.... 25km gravel/dirt....
In that lot there is already 3 bits boarder line 4x4 stuff certainly not dooable in my 2wd Van and possibly wet feet.
There are longer sealed sections later as well as longer unsealed bits.
Getting enough of the picture?

Get the idea, just after a ball park picture, definitely more off than on road.:drool:

Cheers

[cooneyr]

Being a first time DB'er and without measuring the route and doing all the hard work myself, what is the rough breakdown of road surface as a %, seal, unseal, 4x4 etc?

For earlier routes I knew all this detail but looking at my files I can't find those numbers for the current route. Last time I calced all this was for the 2010 route and it was 800kms of 1000km that was off seal (don't have 4wd vs seal). The current route will be much the same if not more off seal and more 4wd if you do the challenge loops). Biggest bits of seal that spring to mind are Waimate to Waihao Forks, Tarras to Bannockburn, Clyde to Alex, Alex to Roxburgh, Beamount to Lawrence, and Omarama to Otematata. Alex to Roxburgh is probably the biggest and it is 40km. Couple of other very minor bits of seal i.e. less than 10km.

Cheers R

[brp]

How does the roll chart work ? Do I run a roll of bog paper through the home printer :D

Seriously - do ya have to join bits of A4 paper together ....... ?

[Transalper]

How does the roll chart work ? Do I run a roll of bog paper through the home printer :D

Seriously - do ya have to join bits of A4 paper together ....... ?

yes but you cut them in to strips after printing before taping.

[mattsdakar]

How does the roll chart work ? Do I run a roll of bog paper through the home printer :D

Seriously - do ya have to join bits of A4 paper together ....... ?

Yep, kill a tree or follow someone else who knows where they are going!

[cooneyr]

... or follow someone else who knows where they are going!

The trick here is to know that they know where they are going. Following any random fella may have unintended consequences!

BRP I think you have your answer. Best method is to print double sided and get two lengths of chart on one A4.

Cheers R

[brp]

Cherz all - GPS unit looking a whole lot more attractive :D

[Rosie]

Cherz all - GPS unit looking a whole lot more attractive :D

Oh go on, all good adventure rides start with an evening of cutting, sellotaping and drinking... followed by rewinding your entire route because you rolled it up backwards :nya:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj295/Kawa_Rosie/IMG_3126.jpg

[NordieBoy]

Oh go on, all good adventure rides start with an evening of cutting, sellotaping and drinking... followed by rewinding your entire route because you rolled it up backwards :nya:

Is that like hitting the "reverse route" button and then the "upload" button?


I'd rather use the GPS, and take photos of the roll chart mugs :lol:

[brp]

Oh go on, all good adventure rides start with an evening of cutting, sellotaping and drinking... followed by rewinding your entire route because you rolled it up backwards :nya:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj295/Kawa_Rosie/IMG_3126.jpg

lmfao :D

Yeah can see the benefits of the old fashion way :niceone: bloody hell its long - roll of bog paper probably wouldn't do,
good thing got a laser printer - be cheaper buying gps unit than ink otherwise lollol :cool:

[gpcustom]

The drink bottels i got are still good as no leaking or damage to the lid or seal. Any way ive been looking around and found these

http://aviciouscycle.ca/mainpages/productpage.aspx?productid=3824

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2L-Auxiliary-Enduro-Motocross-Supermoto-Fuel-Tank-Handlebar-Mounted-Acerbis-/280943491931?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4169897b5b

[Woodman]

The trick here is to know that they know where they are going. Following any random fella may have unintended consequences!

BRP I think you have your answer. Best method is to print double sided and get two lengths of chart on one A4.

Cheers R

How much different is this route from the last one? Just askin cos my (well Nordies to be more accurate) roll chart holder still has the last chart in it.

[cooneyr]

Oh go on, all good adventure rides start with an evening of cutting, sellotaping and drinking... followed by rewinding your entire route because you rolled it up backwards :nya: . . .

LOL - guilty as charged. CCA 2008 involved a rewind into the holder and a couple of dusty's I've had to do the same. :wacko:


How much different is this route from the last one? Just askin cos my (well Nordies to be more accurate) roll chart holder still has the last chart in it.

Exactly the same as 2012. Its in the very first sentence on www.db1k.com This thing called work is really getting in the way at the moment (generally working till midnight most nights on top of 9 hour days).

Cheers R

[Woodman]

LOL - guilty as charged. CCA 2008 involved a rewind into the holder and a couple of dusty's I've had to do the same. :wacko:



Exactly the same as 2012. Its in the very first sentence on www.db1k.com This thing called work is really getting in the way at the moment (generally working till midnight most nights on top of 9 hour days).

Cheers R

Oh ok, cheers, now get back to work. See you at Fairlie.

[Hillbilly110]

How does the roll chart work ? Do I run a roll of bog paper through the home printer :D

Seriously - do ya have to join bits of A4 paper together ....... ?

Any good printer should be able to do it in one length for only a few dollars....from memory was $3 ea for ours last year

[cooneyr]

Oh ok, cheers, now get back to work. See you at Fairlie.

deja vu - midnight again!

R

[brp]

Any good printer should be able to do it in one length for only a few dollars....from memory was $3 ea for ours last year

Now thats thinking outside the square !

3 bucks - be that to step in the door in ch-ch

Maybe that R fella could do a group deal for $20 per roll chart - 17 x 75 - $1275 slides

"Doesn't sound like he very busy at the mo" :whistle:

[Alpha Solo]

ALL 150 SPOTS ARE NOW GONE:motu:


EDIT: Transalper bet me to it


OH Sheeet, I didn't know entry was limited :facepalm:- PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE DROPS OUT :brick:

[NordieBoy]

OH Sheeet, I didn't know entry was limited :facepalm:

Otherwise there's standing room only in Fairlie...

[Padmei]

Actually how come there is limitd numbers?

[GPS MAN]

Yea, I was wondering the same thing?

[cooneyr]

OH Sheeet, I didn't know entry was limited :facepalm:- PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE DROPS OUT :brick:

Email sent Peachy.


Actually how come there is limitd numbers?

Primary reason - keeping farmers happy. While lots of paper roads, they still maintain them. Second reason - so you enjoy it. Too many will mean too much dust, getting stuck in 'traffic' and increased crash risk (overtaking in the dust at the beginning of the ride last year was treacherous, I didn't but others did and I saw one close shave with an on comming vehicle).

Said it somewhere else but I don't want this ride to become a victim of its own success.

Cheers
Ryan

[gpcustom]

Ok im sick of this fuel problem so im at work right now sorting it. Ive removed my rear rack and have moved it forward to keep the weight more over the seat. I went to a mower shop and got a second hand plastic fuel tank from a ride on mower for $5. Im going to mount it to the rear rack and then plumb it into the main fuel line with a seprate fuel tap:niceone: .This should work sweet as and better than fuel bottels

[MXNUT]

Anyone else heading south on the Thursday before the Dusty:moon:.

I am crossing over on the evening ferry on Wednesday and staying the night in Blenheim.

Thursday plan is .... Taylors pass Rd - Mt Altimarloch - Molesworth to Hamner - Hamner to Private station into Lees Valley then out to Oxford - then if time allows - Waimakariri river bed and onto Methven for the night.:scooter::scooter::scooter:

Keen to join up with any others heading south.:grouphug:


Friday morning meet up with the Mattsdakar Ride at Blackford Road.

[GPS MAN]

The plan is to cross on Thursday, bike on trailer, overnight in Ashburton, then onto Fairly on Friday...

Looks like I will meet you in Fairly..unless the car breaks down:(

[mattsdakar]

Anyone else heading south on the Thursday before the Dusty:moon:.

I am crossing over on the evening ferry on Wednesday and staying the night in Blenheim.

Thursday plan is .... Taylors pass Rd - Mt Altimarloch - Molesworth to Hamner - Hamner to Private station into Lees Valley then out to Oxford - then if time allows - Waimakariri river bed and onto Methven for the night.:scooter::scooter::scooter:

Keen to join up with any others heading south.:grouphug:


Friday morning meet up with the Mattsdakar Ride at Blackford Road.

Pretty tempted to ride up from Christchurch on Thursday to meet you half way somewhere as a shake down ride..I'll keep you in mind

[socialites]

Hey Mark, we leaving from Lake Mason on Thursday morning, going over the Leese valley to CHCH by Thusday Night.




Anyone else heading south on the Thursday before the Dusty:moon:.

I am crossing over on the evening ferry on Wednesday and staying the night in Blenheim.

Thursday plan is .... Taylors pass Rd - Mt Altimarloch - Molesworth to Hamner - Hamner to Private station into Lees Valley then out to Oxford - then if time allows - Waimakariri river bed and onto Methven for the night.:scooter::scooter::scooter:

Keen to join up with any others heading south.:grouphug:


Friday morning meet up with the Mattsdakar Ride at Blackford Road.

[gpcustom]

Got my fuel sorted not the best looking but it works well:puke:273996273997273998

[GPS MAN]

What kind of bags are those?

[gpcustom]

What kind of bags are those?

there Oxford

[umopom]

The drink bottels i got are still good as no leaking or damage to the lid or seal. Any way ive been looking around and found these

http://aviciouscycle.ca/mainpages/productpage.aspx?productid=3824

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2L-Auxiliary-Enduro-Motocross-Supermoto-Fuel-Tank-Handlebar-Mounted-Acerbis-/280943491931?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4169897b5b


The oil tank from a chain saw fuel/oil can set up is just the right size - 2 litres - and it is designed as a fuel can so safe and no leaks, just requires a couple of minutes of careful cutting with a hacksaw blade and 2 tanks for the price of one!!!

[NordieBoy]

The oil tank from a chain saw fuel/oil can set up is just the right size - 2 litres - and it is designed as a fuel can so safe and no leaks, just requires a couple of minutes of careful cutting with a hacksaw blade and 2 tanks for the price of one!!!

That's the one I've got too.

Used a grinder to remove the flashing from the cutting.

[cold comfort]

Hey, i see it does have the cherry on the top after all. :dodge: A great set up-looks like you've got it covered.

[rigley]

That's the one I've got too.

Used a grinder to remove the flashing from the cutting.

Hello,

I have bit the bullet and entered the DBK1K! Any help with extra fuel tanks, preparation, advice, etc for my DRZ 400 would be much appreciated :scooter:

Cheers

[Transalper]

Speaking of preparation, when checking on my tyre order the other day it was mentioned that time is running out... may be a bit sketchy already.
I have had a set of Mitas on order for about 4 weeks already, my chosen front is in the country, my chosen rear is on the water, it's getting to be too late to get orders in to be on the last shipment due before DB1k so if you don't already have your name on what you want you may have to just take what's left instead.
Same applied to a couple of other brand tyres I asked about at other places recently too.
Of course stuff I'm not interested in seems to be readily available. :rolleyes:

[NordieBoy]

Hello,

I have bit the bullet and put entered the DBK1K! any help with extra fuel tanks, preparation etc for my DRZ 400 would be much appreciated :scooter:

Cheers
You'll need to carry about 5L extra to be safe and easiest is to do what we did at the Mackley and put it in the tank once you've done about 100km.

There's only a few legs that'd need >150km fuel, so you'd only have to fill it up for them. Or just be safe...

[rigley]

Thanks Nordie Boy for the info, can't believe someone has just sent me a text saying I can borrow there Safari tank for the Dusty, it must be xmas!!! Is there any extra protection I should get like engine side casings for my DR400, etc, you know I am bound to fall off again. Are you going ?

[dmoo1790]

Thanks Nordie Boy for the info, can't believe someone has just sent me a text saying I can borrow there Safari tank for the Dusty, it must be xmas!!! Is there any extra protection I should get like engine side casings for my DR400, etc, you know I am bound to fall off again. Are you going ?

I had a DRZ. Google "case savers" for engine case protection but time might be a bit short to get a set. Simple mod to do on the gear lever. File off the sharp inside corner which might punch through the cases if the lever gets bent inwards. Bar guards are great for saving your levers. With the Safari tank you have excellent side protection for the radiator. I assume you have a decent bash plate? The standard one is a bit light and narrow.

[rigley]

I have a skid plate and half a bash plate which I got talked into buying when I first got the bike, has anybody had any dealings with Thumper Talk and there on line shop? I was wondering about delivery times for a decent bash plate and engine side plates?

Cheers

[NordieBoy]

I have a skid plate and half a bash plate which I got talked into buying when I first got the bike, has anybody had any dealings with Thumper Talk and there on line shop? I was wondering about delivery times for a decent bash plate and engine side plates?

Cheers

Make some case savers - Not out of a road sign, that would be bad.
But works well...

Get hold of GPCustom about a bash plate.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/21193-gpcustom

[rigley]

Make some case savers - Not out of a road sign, that would be bad.
But works well...

Get hold of GPCustom about a bash plate.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/21193-gpcustom

Thanks for that Fran,

One other question, I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 phone, I was thinking about getting a waterproof handle bar mount and using it as a GPS for the Dusty, or should I try and learn the roll charts, never used them before, has anybody tried a similar exercise? Not sure if the phone will crap out with all the vibration? Is it hard to load extra maps? Thought it might save me buying a motorbike GPS that spends half its life on the shelf. :facepalm:

[dmoo1790]

Thanks for that Fran,

One other question, I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 phone, I was thinking about getting a waterproof handle bar mount and using it as a GPS for the Dusty, or should I try and learn the roll charts, never used them before, has anybody tried a similar exercise? Not sure if the phone will crap out with all the vibration? Is it hard to load extra maps? Thought it might save me buying a motorbike GPS that spends half its life on the shelf. :facepalm:

I had similar thoughts last time. I bought a RAM Aquabox for my iPhone. The RAM mount has a bit of flex so I don't think vibes are a prob. But I Had to mod it because the phone got too hot. Drilled holes and fitted an alloy plate inside to get some air flow. Otherwise it kind of worked but lost lock at times. Not sure how the S2 GPS performs in remote spots away from the phone network. Might be better than Apple AGPS. Also I found it hard to read the screen in bright sunlight.

I also had a roll chart but didn't use it cause the paper got wet in the Fairlie river. :facepalm: Luckily my brother had a backup copy and the phone GPS did work about 70% of the time although that's no help when it doesn't work when you're in the truly remote spots like the Awakino challenge.

[Padmei]

I have a skid plate and half a bash plate which I got talked into buying when I first got the bike, has anybody had any dealings with Thumper Talk and there on line shop? I was wondering about delivery times for a decent bash plate and engine side plates?

Cheers

Garrie you can borrow my safari tank if you want. takes about an hour to swap over. i got some case savers from tt & they were quick & good.

nordie has about 16 gpss borrow one of him.

[NordieBoy]

nordie has about 16 gpss borrow one of him.

That's my breeding colony. I'm going to sell the pups.

[Trials Rider]

[QUOTE=NordieBoy;1130443089]Make some case savers - Not out of a road sign, that would be bad.
But works well...

"Not out of a road sign" no wonder I always get lost in Nelson, Nordie has all the signs at his place

[rigley]

Garrie you can borrow my safari tank if you want. takes about an hour to swap over. i got some case savers from tt & they were quick & good.

nordie has about 16 gpss borrow one of him.

Cheers Craig,
Topo has offered his safari tank, I am going around tomorrow to fit and give the old girl a good going over,(the bike that is), is there anyone local who sells the case savers, just thinking of the Xmas post from the States.

[gpcustom]

Cheers Craig,
Topo has offered his safari tank, I am going around tomorrow to fit and give the old girl a good going over,(the bike that is), is there anyone local who sells the case savers, just thinking of the Xmas post from the States.

If your after a bash plate i can make you one but you will have to let me know as there isnt much time left. As in im flat out with other stuff:sweatdrop

[cooneyr]

.....I also had a roll chart but didn't use it cause the paper got wet in the Fairlie river. :facepalm: .....

I'm not sure I'd mention that in public. The Fairlie river is about 2.8km from the start! :laugh: LOL

Don't worry you weren't the only one from what I hear! Something about north islanders and that river it seems!

Hope you get a little further this time!

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

.

I also had a roll chart but didn't use it cause the paper got wet in the Fairlie river. :facepalm:

norfies, not to worry you wernt the only only one, :laugh: & it's bound to happen again :shifty: unless you decide to go through a puddle to see how deep it is :whistle:

[_Shrek_]

I'm not sure I'd mention that in public. The Fairlie river is about 2.8km from the start! :laugh: LOL

Don't worry you weren't the only one from what I hear! Something about north islanders and that river it seems!

Hope you get a little further this time!

Cheers R

snap :laugh:

[rigley]

I had similar thoughts last time. I bought a RAM Aquabox for my iPhone. The RAM mount has a bit of flex so I don't think vibes are a prob. But I Had to mod it because the phone got too hot. Drilled holes and fitted an alloy plate inside to get some air flow. Otherwise it kind of worked but lost lock at times. Not sure how the S2 GPS performs in remote spots away from the phone network. Might be better than Apple AGPS. Also I found it hard to read the screen in bright sunlight.

I also had a roll chart but didn't use it cause the paper got wet in the Fairlie river. :facepalm: Luckily my brother had a backup copy and the phone GPS did work about 70% of the time although that's no help when it doesn't work when you're in the truly remote spots like the Awakino challenge.

I have found this bit of software for an Android phone, has anybody used it successfully in the wop wops?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.crittermap.backcountrynavigator.lic ense&hl=en

I know once my phone has downloaded a route on my phone, using standard google maps, I don't need a mobile signal, just the GPS switched on.

[mattsdakar]

Oi u Aucklanders,
I'm going to be in Auckland for work from the 8th-13Dec, if u would like me to bring a fresh nobbly down to Christchurch on the plane for u let me know. That way u can throw a more road orientated rear on your bike for the ride down, can fit it at my place (near airport) on Thursday night.
I'll be staying at the Quest Hotel, Ponsonby Rd
Matt

[gpcustom]

What do you think of a Shinko E-704:corn:

[Woodman]

norfies, not to worry you wernt the only only one, :laugh: & it's bound to happen again :shifty: unless you decide to go through a puddle to see how deep it is :whistle:

Will you ever let this go?

[NordieBoy]

Will you ever let this go?

Not while he's still alive :lol:

[NordieBoy]

What do you think of a Shinko E-704:corn:

Decent tyres. More mud grip than the 705 but wears more quickly.

[gpcustom]

Decent tyres. More mud grip than the 705 but wears more quickly.

Sweet thats all i wanted to know as i got one today $85

[Transalper]

So just thinking about tenting...
Around Fairlie was considering Lake Opuha (15km out of town near Ashwick Flat) as have camped there before.
Just past Alexandra, anyone know if you can camp at Butchers Dam about 6km from Alexandra on the route. I'm sure I've seen tents and campers there before but maybe it was just campervans and they were there for the walks.

Guess it's either those or pay for potentially noisier/crowded camp ground sites in the towns... with a few facilitys. But if I'm going to be uncomfortably in a tent I may as well do it super cheap.

[_Shrek_]

Will you ever let this go?

:confused: have no idea what ya on about :innocent:

[_Shrek_]

So just thinking about tenting...
Around Fairlie was considering Lake Opuha (15km out of town near Ashwick Flat) as have camped there before.
Just past Alexandra, anyone know if you can camp at Butchers Dam about 6km from Alexandra on the route. I'm sure I've seen tents and campers there before but maybe it was just campervans and they were there for the walks.

Guess it's either those or pay for potentially noisier/crowded camp ground sites in the towns... with a few facilitys. But if I'm going to be uncomfortably in a tent I may as well do it super cheap.

selfcontained only from memory TA, but your more than welcome to camp here with us, or there is a place between Clyde & Alex, tent for $5 per night & that includes a shower

[Skinny_Birdman]

Work has just informed me that I will be deployed overseas in January. Hopefully Ryan and Josh will be able to free up my place for another rider. I had motel accommodation booked for Fairlie (sharing with Casualty) so if anyone wants to take this over, drop me a PM.

Gutted.
Alex

[ADVGD]

Work has just informed me that I will be deployed overseas in January. Hopefully Ryan and Josh will be able to free up my place for another rider. I had motel accommodation booked for Fairlie (sharing with Casualty) so if anyone wants to take this over, drop me a PM.

Gutted.
Alex

Gutted for ya mate, I was looking forward to catching up with you.

Your rider spot will be snaffled up without any issues. This page has just been updated with info on the backup registration list: http://www.db1k.com/2013/registration-closed.php


Cheers

[bushy]

So just thinking about tenting...
Around Fairlie was considering Lake Opuha (15km out of town near Ashwick Flat) as have camped there before.
Just past Alexandra, anyone know if you can camp at Butchers Dam about 6km from Alexandra on the route. I'm sure I've seen tents and campers there before but maybe it was just campervans and they were there for the walks.

Guess it's either those or pay for potentially noisier/crowded camp ground sites in the towns... with a few facilitys. But if I'm going to be uncomfortably in a tent I may as well do it super cheap.

Geez you gotta be quick to get the beds in Fairlie!! I am pitching the tent at the Fairlie Top 10 on Friday till Sunday, they have a pay for 2 get the third night free. Can handle tenting Friday and Sunday, its Alex where I find a hot shower and good bed is very welcome!!

Means I can travel light for the duration of Dusty Butt also. Had too much gear on last year......not that I had to pick the bike up very often:whistle:

[pampa]

Work has just informed me that I will be deployed overseas in January. Hopefully Ryan and Josh will be able to free up my place for another rider. I had motel accommodation booked for Fairlie (sharing with Casualty) so if anyone wants to take this over, drop me a PM.

Gutted.
Alex

Sorry to hear, I'd be interested on taking the riding spot :rolleyes: but I guess I'm not first in the queue :no:

[Transalper]

I decided to suck up the financial burden and have offered to take the motel spot, I already know casualty so... waiting to hear a confirmation on that.

[pete-blen]

I have a double motel room booked at Fairlie for the fri 18th & sun 20th at the Mackenzie Motel...
Anyones welcome to the spare bed...

[Alpha Solo]

I have a double motel room booked at Fairlie for the fri 18th & sun 20th at the Mackenzie Motel...
Anyones welcome to the spare bed...

You have mail.

[cooneyr]

Work has just informed me that I will be deployed overseas in January. Hopefully Ryan and Josh will be able to free up my place for another rider. I had motel accommodation booked for Fairlie (sharing with Casualty) so if anyone wants to take this over, drop me a PM.

Gutted.
Alex

For those watching this thread, I do have a "reserves" list running and am allocating spots first come first served. Alex's spot has been already given to a fella from across the ditch. I think I might need to have another think about the first come first served. Maybe there should be some exceptions i.e. excluding Ausi's and north islanders who immediately go to the bottom of the list, the bigger the bribe the higher up the list etc etc :) LOL


Sorry to hear, I'd be interested on taking the riding spot :rolleyes: but I guess I'm not first in the queue :no:

Gidday Pampa - check your email. #5 on the list sorry.

Cheers R

[Kokopelli]

Did ya give a spot to McCardigan?

I see that there are a lot of people riding KTMs who have not yet paid up. I wonder if there is correlation?

[Woodman]

Did ya give a spot to McCardigan?

I see that there are a lot of people riding KTMs who have not yet paid up. I wonder if there is correlation?

They probarbly think that we have to pay them.

[gpcustom]

They probarbly think that we have to pay them.

Sweet when and how much do we get:moon:

[cooneyr]

Did ya give a spot to McCardigan?

I see that there are a lot of people riding KTMs who have not yet paid up. I wonder if there is correlation?

Yep bimmer rider from across the ditch got the spot.

Looks like a pretty good mix of bike brands to me. I'm a KTM rider so no bias here!

Cheers R

[Kokopelli]

Yep bimmer rider from across the ditch got the spot.

Looks like a pretty good mix of bike brands to me. I'm a KTM rider so no bias here!

Cheers R

I am not complaining, just stirring :-). I am really looking forward to the ride. The more R80Gs come along, the better, I may need technical assistance :-). Looks like I can borrow a NUVI 40 for the ride, so hopefully I won't get completely lost. I can now start to make a list of must-take items.

Bike, Money, fuel, phone, clothing, dry clothing, helmet, bag for stuff, straps to stop bag from falling off, fire extinguisher, GPS with map, tire plugs, band aid, sunglasses, hammer to straighten out stuff and make things move, Duct tape, to stop things from moving. I guess that's it, looks pretty comprehensive to me, or have I missed something?

[Woodman]

I am not complaining, just stirring :-). I am really looking forward to the ride. The more R80Gs come along, the better, I may need technical assistance :-). Looks like I can borrow a NUVI 40 for the ride, so hopefully I won't get completely lost. I can now start to make a list of must-take items.

Bike, Money, fuel, phone, clothing, dry clothing, pipe,slippers, wing back armchair, helmet, bag for stuff, straps to stop bag from falling off, fire extinguisher, GPS with map, tire plugs, band aid, sunglasses, hammer to straighten out stuff and make things move, Duct tape, to stop things from moving. I guess that's it, looks pretty comprehensive to me, or have I missed something?

Fixed it for ya....

[Padmei]

I always find Wilbur Smith is always a good companion to while away the hours waiting for help to come .
KTM owners however have their mirrors & hair product.


Make sure you have a good bashplate Koko as the ride to Fairlie from Chch last year had me just about sumping out on the boulders
after the river crossing.

[gpcustom]

[QUOTE=Padmei;1130445672]KTM owners however have their mirrors & hair product.


Bugger i dont have any hair:nya:

[Kokopelli]

I always find Wilbur Smith is always a good companion to while away the hours waiting for help to come .
KTM owners however have their mirrors & hair product.


Make sure you have a good bashplate Koko as the ride to Fairlie from Chch last year had me just about sumping out on the boulders
after the river crossing.

Wilbur Smith might while away the hours, but I think I'll load the repair manual instead. That way I'll know exactly what I should have brought. I just have the standard bash plate. The headers are dented anyway, so I am not worried. Since there are three R80GS on the ride we could share the load. I'll take the slippers and you can bring the pipe. McCardigan is already carrying the kitchen sink, so bringing the armchair as well, won't make a difference.

Since I'll need to be in Tekapo in a hurry, I'll take the main road. Don't they have bridges down there any more?

[cooneyr]

Hi Fella's

I have, with ADVGD's help, just put up the route files (roll chart and GPS). Only thing is that this year there is security on access to the files. You need to use your 2013 DB1K registration ID to access the files. If you no longer have the email containing your code you should be able to find it by viewing the Shoei DB1K payment record in your internet banking. Worst case scenario you can use the contact form on the website to email me and I can send you your registration code.

Cheers R

[Underground]

Am i right assuming its the same as last year? I've still got the old roll chart loaded.

[cooneyr]

Am i right assuming its the same as last year? I've still got the old roll chart loaded.

Same route. If you have corrected distance for cells 174 to 182 as below then just go with it.

Roll Chart Changes
Cell Original Total Distance Updated Total Distance
174 20.1 21.2
175 0 0
176 3.1 1.5
177 13.8 12.2
178 15.5 13.9
179 20.3 18.7
180 28.1 26.5
181 40.8 39.2
182 46.3 44.7

The 2013 roll chart has these corrections included.

Cheers R

[michael e]

howdy boys,how many km's of the 1000 are actually at around 90 to 100km's an hour?...
do i realy need to gear up me scooter to do those kind of speeds,just to later struggle like fuk and burn me clutch out:sweatdrop on the river beds for the sake of some comfy open road speeds?......just asking!!!

[_Shrek_]

howdy boys,how many km's of the 1000 are actually at around 90 to 100km's an hour?...
do i realy need to gear up me scooter to do those kind of speeds,just to later struggle like fuk and burn me clutch out:sweatdrop on the river beds for the sake of some comfy open road speeds?......just asking!!!

does this quote below help Michael


For earlier routes I knew all this detail but looking at my files I can't find those numbers for the current route. Last time I calced all this was for the 2010 route and it was 800kms of 1000km that was off seal (don't have 4wd vs seal). The current route will be much the same if not more off seal and more 4wd if you do the challenge loops). Biggest bits of seal that spring to mind are Waimate to Waihao Forks, Tarras to Bannockburn, Clyde to Alex, Alex to Roxburgh, Beamount to Lawrence, and Omarama to Otematata. Alex to Roxburgh is probably the biggest and it is 40km. Couple of other very minor bits of seal i.e. less than 10km.

Cheers R

[alane]

I,d opt for the lower gearing,-- but then,i,m old & the testosterone levels are deminished a little I guess.:facepalm:
I did it on the little Super Sherpa in 2010,it was struggleing a little @ 100 km ,but was,nt a worry.
Thing is,---if you want to keep up with mates that are going like cut cats ,the joice is obviouse.
But if you want to see the best scenery in N.Z. -- take it slower -- ,generaly ,there,s not much traffic,so you wont be holding up cars etc.
The hiway stretches are,nt THAT long mostly,so the diff. between doing 85kmh & 100kmh on each would be only a few minites on each.

On the other hand ---there are challenges too numeress to mention,where you,ll be pleased to have lower gearing, but that depends a bit on what bike you,ve got, --- & your rideing ability..:blink:

Cheers & good luck. AL.

[michael e]

thanks AL..:2thumbsup,me riding buddys got a dr 6fiddy so we'll be flying:headbang:

[cooneyr]

howdy boys,how many km's of the 1000 are actually at around 90 to 100km's an hour?...
do i realy need to gear up me scooter to do those kind of speeds,just to later struggle like fuk and burn me clutch out:sweatdrop on the river beds for the sake of some comfy open road speeds?......just asking!!!

Just checked and see you are on your 450 EXC. I too run a 450 EXC (05 model). I'm lucky enough to have two rear wheels, a 45 tooth on a cush drive a LC4 wheel) and a 49 tooth on the original solid hub. I run the cush drive wheel so am on 13/45 gearing. I don't have any problem on the challenge sections (can easily do steepest bits in first) but very nice to have comfortable revs on the gravel and seal. The 13/49 is OK on the seal (the rev's are fine) and it does lower gearing for off road but no real nead.

Another thing to consider - the challenge loops are really only challenges for the typical ADV bikes i.e. DR650, KLR650, GS's, KTM adventures etc. On a EXC the challenge loops are really just a mild trail ride (hell even done a few knarly trail rides on the 13/45).

In short - gear for the seal and fast gravel and you'll be sweet.

Cheers R

[michael e]

Just checked and see you are on your 450 EXC. I too run a 450 EXC (05 model). I'm lucky enough to have two rear wheels, a 45 tooth on a cush drive a LC4 wheel) and a 49 tooth on the original solid hub. I run the cush drive wheel so am on 13/45 gearing. I don't have any problem on the challenge sections (can easily do steepest bits in first) but very nice to have comfortable revs on the gravel and seal. The 13/49 is OK on the seal (the rev's are fine) and it does lower gearing for off road but no real nead.

Another thing to consider - the challenge loops are really only challenges for the typical ADV bikes i.e. DR650, KLR650, GS's, KTM adventures etc. On a EXC the challenge loops are really just a mild trail ride (hell even done a few knarly trail rides on the 13/45).

In short - gear for the seal and fast gravel and you'll be sweet.

Cheers R

hey thanks cooneyr..i do a lot of trail rides running 13/50 and thats perfectfor our part of the country.
just currently running 14/50 and think i may run that..next one to try is 15/50..thank for info looking foward to the ride:woohoo:

[Transalper]

WR is so close to being done now, just added the mega tool tube (http://www.thetooltube.com/MegaTube.html), grab strap up front and been messing with windscreen sizes and mounting options. Tape works well but is messy and the Velcro is not holding so well. The WR doesn't have as big a front panel as the DR400/650's this design was originally done for in the Youtube links (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MK4MBaol2uw) Nordie called our attention to so kind of looking like not enough contact area for the hook/loops to work well. May put 2 to 4 screws in the bike and do a hole/slot slip on arrangement.

[ADVGD]

WR is so close to being done now, just added the mega tool tube (http://www.thetooltube.com/MegaTube.html)

Looking good mate, what's the quality of the tool tube like?

[NordieBoy]

WR is so close to being done now, just added the mega tool tube (http://www.thetooltube.com/MegaTube.html), grab strap up front and been messing with windscreen sizes and mounting options. Tape works well but is messy and the Velcro is not holding so well. The WR doesn't have as big a front panel as the DR400/650's this design was originally done for in the Youtube links (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MK4MBaol2uw) Nordie called our attention to so kind of looking like not enough contact area for the hook/loops to work well. May put 2 to 4 screws in the bike and do a hole/slot slip on arrangement.

I used bolts with nylocks.

Have you tried it with the GoPro chest mount yet?

[Transalper]

I used bolts with nylocks.

Have you tried it with the GoPro chest mount yet?

Without trying it I already know from dirty DR650 windscreen experience that the only way that the Gopro with chest mount will work in this case is if the chest mount is strapped to the windscreen instead of me.
<_<

[Transalper]

Looking good mate, what's the quality of the tool tube like?
Quality seems ok, mounted it on a bit of steel bar bolted to footpeg mount and helmet lock mount. It was a bit saggy/wobbly like that so added some large hose clamps to pull it toward the frame and now it feels pretty stable. The smaller normal Tool Tube would maybe fit and look better but I wanted a big one. Have to use the small one on the Transalp to fit the gap behind the left pannier rack.

[Crim]

strapped to the windscreen instead of me.

Why would you strap yourself to the windscreen TA? - Is it a new type of safety thing??

[NordieBoy]

Without trying it I already know from dirty DR650 windscreen experience that the only way that the Gopro with chest mount will work in this case is if the chest mount is strapped to the windscreen instead of me.
<_<

You could stand up...


Oh, you were. Sorry...

:shifty:

[Transalper]

:facepalm: You funny people :moon:

[Trials Rider]

You could stand up...


Oh, you were. Sorry...

:shifty:

Hey Nordie you wont see any scares on our foreheads, not tall enough to hit anything. :2thumbsup

BTW what is the oxygen like at you altitude :nya: :nya: :D:D

[gpcustom]

:woohoo:yea no more work for the year:headbang::clap:

This will be my last ride on the KTM as after the dusty its allready sold:cry: Time to move onto my next bike project:yeah:
(All i can say is that its a SUZUKI _______)


Hope everyone has a good xmas and see you all at the start:drinknsin

[Transalper]

Just back from my main shakedown run, 952km in 48 hours on the WR from lunch time Friday to lunchtime Sunday.
Good test of gear and start to getting some endurance in to those bike riding muscles, you know, the ones that only ever get sore with a big ride. Need to get some more endurance built up to make the DB1K enjoyable as the Dusty has less seal to do than I just did being that I highwayed from ChCh to Karamea for the first leg of my ride to meet up with ADVGD,Crim & PeachVW to do the Mackley/Braeburn/Porika and then Chris for the Rainbow/Mailing/Edwards.
Got a pair of wet weather pants for Crim there on top of my tail bag, he can use those to replace the ones he lost while leaving Edwards Pass this morning.:laugh:
Will not be carrying a sleeping bag for the dusty so that will free up a pannier for the stuff that was in the tail bag so I can leave the tail bag at home for the big one.:niceone:

[cooneyr]

Just back from my main shakedown run,

So are happy with how the e12's went? did they stay in place well for you?

cheers r

[Transalper]

So are happy with how the e12's went? did they stay in place well for you?

cheers r

Yep, E12 Wolfman bags are perfect for forcing me to pack light, they suit the bike size and they sat firmly in place thanks.

[GPS MAN]

I agree with Transalper ~ the E12's are great on my EXC! Although, I did have to build a small heat shield for the muffler..

Other than that ~ Great Setup!

Thanks

Ryan

[pouakai]

For all those you have done the dusty on a KTM450EXC or similar (9l standard tank) how much extra fuel are you planning for the Lawrenece-Omara(290km) leg?
I am thinking it could be as much as another 9l ? Does that sound about right ? Interested to see the range of solutions peps on these bikes have come up with for carrying that much extra....

Ive never run my tank dry so if anyone knows what it takes to do so on a KTM450EXC I'd be interested to hear.

Cheers all
P

[GPS MAN]

For all those you have done the dusty on a KTM450EXC or similar (9l standard tank) how much extra fuel are you planning for the Lawrenece-Omara(290km) leg?
I am thinking it could be as much as another 9l ? Does that sound about right ? Interested to see the range of solutions peps on these bikes have come up with for carrying that much extra....

Ive never run my tank dry so if anyone knows what it takes to do so on a KTM450EXC I'd be interested to hear.

Cheers all
P


Well, based on last year~I rode my KLR...fyi.. This year I am taking my 530 EXC. So----

I am running a 15 liter Safari Tank..that actually holds 16 liters and carrying 2 extra 1 liter Primus fuel containers.

One will be in a tank bag and one in a fuel sleeve from Wolfman luggage, out of the states....

Might be a little overkill~but, I really don't want to run out of fuel:nya:

[slicker]

pouakai

I have a 25l Acerbis tank on my EXC. I've never filled it, nor had any problems on DB 2012.

I'd seen some people with a 5l orange can on their carrier. That still wouldn't give you enough for Lawrence-Omarama. I see you can detour part way round to fill up.

I saw plenty of 450's with those 15l Safari tanks. Maybe one of them will reply.

[cooneyr]

For all those you have done the dusty on a KTM450EXC or similar (9l standard tank) how much extra fuel are you planning for the Lawrenece-Omara(290km) leg?
I am thinking it could be as much as another 9l ? Does that sound about right ? Interested to see the range of solutions peps on these bikes have come up with for carrying that much extra....

Ive never run my tank dry so if anyone knows what it takes to do so on a KTM450EXC I'd be interested to hear.

Cheers all
P

My EXC does about 6l/100km. I have a 25l acerbis tank and have done just over 400km with the second reserve untouched (twin taps). A big tank is easiest. Alternatives are strapping on extra fuel when needed though this is a bit problematic on an exc. alternative is yo skip over to Alex for gas. The Crawford hills road is a nice bit of gravel anyway.

cheers r

[Tigerpig]

Anyone able to tell me how to switch a Garmin Montana 650t to 'off-road' mode? It does not appear as straight forward as for a Zumo. Unless I'm missing something obvious. The only thing i have found so far is in "Set-up > Routing" there is an option to "Draw vehicle locked to the road" Y/N. I have tried both options.

I have the DB1k routes loaded in the GPS but when I do a 'where to' on either route it comes up with "Only 50 points can be used for follow road navigation" and only plots a portion of the route. Hence I am guessing it is not in off-road mode. Help!~

[Transalper]

Anyone able to tell me how to switch a Garmin Montana 650t to 'off-road' mode?...~

Page 42 of your manual under the heading 'Route Settings' sub heading 'Calculation Method' it says something about the route calculation method option is only available for some activities.
Select ^
Select Setup
Select Routing
Change Activity.

Then you should get the calculation method options available.
Also I would make sure the 'Lock on Road' is off.

I have not yet seen any info on what the Activity options are to choose from, or how many points per route it can handle in various Activitys.

Please have a go and report back.
Cheers
TA.

[Adux]

WR is so close to being done now. Tape works well but is messy and the Velcro is not holding so well. The WR doesn't have as big a front panel as the DR400/650's this design was originally done for in the Youtube links (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MK4MBaol2uw) Nordie called our attention to so kind of looking like not enough contact area for the hook/loops to work well. May put 2 to 4 screws in the bike and do a hole/slot slip on arrangement.

Looks good Transalper, this has given me some inspiration to try and make a screen for my little KLX (with mixed results). Does the screen make much of a difference to rider comfort?

Also what sort of fuel efficiency do you get out of the WR? I appreciate that the WR is fuel injected and has more bhp than the KLX 250S but will give me an idea of general efficiency for a 250 and help decide a bit of a fuel strategy for the DB1k. My KLX does seem to be pretty fuel efficient, managed to get 300k out of 11.3l IMS tank (US 3Gallon), over 26k per litre, predominantly gravel/off road (Waimak & Lees Valley) and was riding conservatively, is this about right?

Appreciate all the information on these forums, some really good learnings to be had

Cheers
Adux

[Transalper]

I got about 4.3L per 100km or 23km/L with knobbs and my current ADV gearing, luggage etc. open highway ChCh to Reefton.
Don't think the windscreen makes any real difference to fuel economy but the little screen does make a huge difference to my comfort meaning less fatigue.
It get's the wind blast off my chest so I don't have to hang on against the wind or lean against the wind so much. On big headwinds I also tend to tuck down behind it a bit hiding from the wind.
Down side is some designs/heights/widths can make the wind burble in your ears worse than without a screen. I wear plugs anyway and on the WR the screen I made seems pretty quiet compared to what I had on the DR650.
Oh and I ended up drilling 4 holes and using screws to mount the screen but if it were to be a temporary job just for the DB then just taping on would have been fine.

[pete-blen]

Looks good Transalper, this has given me some inspiration to try and make a screen for my little KLX (with mixed results). Does the screen make much of a difference to rider comfort?

Also what sort of fuel efficiency do you get out of the WR?

Cheers
Adux

I have a tall screen on my XR250 I'm getting 25km/L..
The screen should make no real diffrents .. If the airs not hitting the screen
its hitting yer chest... A screen is a more aerodynamic surface than your
chest/jacket...

Thats how I see it...

[chainsawbike]

Also what sort of fuel efficiency do you get out of the WR? I appreciate that the WR is fuel injected and has more bhp than the KLX 250S but will give me an idea of general efficiency for a 250 and help decide a bit of a fuel strategy for the DB1k. My KLX does seem to be pretty fuel efficient, managed to get 300k out of 11.3l IMS tank (US 3Gallon), over 26k per litre, predominantly gravel/off road (Waimak & Lees Valley) and was riding conservatively, is this about right?

Appreciate all the information on these forums, some really good learnings to be had

Cheers
Adux

i have a 1999 klx250h2 with a 14L tank, on the Lawrence to Omarama leg of the db1k 2012 i put it on reserve ~10km before Omarama, at a guess its reserve is ~3L, the recommended fuel stops worked for me

[cooneyr]

Anyone able to tell me how to switch a Garmin Montana 650t to 'off-road' mode? It does not appear as straight forward as for a Zumo. Unless I'm missing something obvious. The only thing i have found so far is in "Set-up > Routing" there is an option to "Draw vehicle locked to the road" Y/N. I have tried both options.

I have the DB1k routes loaded in the GPS but when I do a 'where to' on either route it comes up with "Only 50 points can be used for follow road navigation" and only plots a portion of the route. Hence I am guessing it is not in off-road mode. Help!~

In the same location as you saw the lock inroads option there is the option of direct routing, automobile, motorbike etc. The Montana's use the term "direct routing" instead of off road.

cheers R

[Transalper]

Just finishing up some old video projects and thought I should do this one before I record the next...

It's day one of the DB1K 2012, Fairlie to Alexandra in 11 minutes.
Don't watch if you want it all to be a surprise.

http://youtu.be/qJMWRPq4Z3E

[Tigerpig]

Page 42 of your manual under the heading 'Route Settings' sub heading 'Calculation Method' it says something about the route calculation method option is only available for some activities.
Select ^
Select Setup
Select Routing
Change Activity.

Then you should get the calculation method options available.
Also I would make sure the 'Lock on Road' is off.

I have not yet seen any info on what the Activity options are to choose from, or how many points per route it can handle in various Activitys.

Please have a go and report back.
Cheers
TA.

OK, firstly thanks for your advice and also cooneyr for your's as well. Both steered me towards what I think is a solution for loading the DB routes on my Garmin Montana 650T.

One has to start by defining a suitable 'Profile'. I created a new Profile for the DB that is based on the 'Classic' Profile in the device. You could probably use the Classic Profile and set that up, but I elected to make a new Profile specifically for the DB, or any other offroad type trips.

Then, for that particular Profile, you 'Setup' the device for what is called 'offroad' on other Garmins. The Montana achieves this 'offroad' status another way as follows: "Main Menu -> Setup -> Routing" leads you to 3 sub-menu settings: Activity, Lock-on-Road, Route Transitions. Set 1. Activity => 'Direct Routing". Set 2. Lock-on-Road => "No". Set 3. Route Transitions => 'Auto'.

That solved my previous problem and the Montana now loads an entire route (e.g. Main A). Now comes a new problem: I can load and do 'Where To' on all four of the 250 point routes but the Montana can only open two of the routes: 'Main A' and 'Main B+Clnge'. The other two routes won't open in the Montana for some reason. However, I think I found a way round this. Namely, in BaseCamp I can convert 'Main A+Chlnge' that is in the Garmin, from a Route to a Track. Then when I do 'Where To' and select Tracks, it displays the entire 'MainA+Chlnge' as a Track which I appear to be able to use the same way as if it was a Route. Any foreseeable issues in doing it this way?

I have documented all the Setup settings for my new DB1k 'Profile' referred to above, and will attempt to attach it to this message. It may be useful to anyone else with a Montana 650. Or, if anyone has better suggestions for settings, I'm always looking for ways to improve things. If the attachment fails to work, I am happy to email it to anyone interested.

Again, thanks for the useful pointers. Much appreciated.
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[cooneyr]

. . . . The other two routes won't open in the Montana for some reason. However, I think I found a way round this. Namely, in BaseCamp I can convert 'Main A+Chlnge' that is in the Garmin, from a Route to a Track. . . . .

I find it strange that you need to do this. I helped out another rider with a Montana and the route files worked fine. also it's very strange that you can get two to work but not the other two. changing to a track will probably work but it is not the way it is designed to be used.

cheers r

[Transalper]

Here's the second day of the Dusty Butt Adventure 2012.
This video is a couple of minutes longer than part 1 at 13 & a half minutes so might test some peoples attention span a little, just like the ride does at times in real life.

http://youtu.be/mKCG9vpmo5M

[Kenb]

I find it strange that you need to do this. I helped out another rider with a Montana and the route files worked fine. also it's very strange that you can get two to work but not the other two. changing to a track will probably work but it is not the way it is designed to be used.

cheers r

Ryan, it turned out that mine would only open the Main A and Main B+Clnge but not the Main A+Clnge or Main B routes.

Also several of the routes you loaded for me from your Adventure Routes site wouldn't open.

Grant and I ran through parts of the DB route during our trip after Christmas to the Catlins. When we were on sections of the routes the DB track would disappear at times. I wondered if I was using the wrong scale and the track was just "off screen".

If you are back in Christchurch I would be keen to drop it back around for you to have another look.

Thanks

Ken

[cooneyr]

Ryan, it turned out that mine would only open the Main A and Main B+Clnge but not the Main A+Clnge or Main B routes.

Also several of the routes you loaded for me from your Adventure Routes site wouldn't open.

Grant and I ran through parts of the DB route during our trip after Christmas to the Catlins. When we were on sections of the routes the DB track would disappear at times. I wondered if I was using the wrong scale and the track was just "off screen".

If you are back in Christchurch I would be keen to drop it back around for you to have another look.

Thanks

Ken

uh oh. Thanks for info ken. Better fire up the laptop and GPS tonight and have a look. Sorry can met in person for a while yet.

Cheers R

[ADVGD]

Ryan, it turned out that mine would only open the Main A and Main B+Clnge but not the Main A+Clnge or Main B routes.

Also several of the routes you loaded for me from your Adventure Routes site wouldn't open.

Grant and I ran through parts of the DB route during our trip after Christmas to the Catlins. When we were on sections of the routes the DB track would disappear at times. I wondered if I was using the wrong scale and the track was just "off screen".

If you are back in Christchurch I would be keen to drop it back around for you to have another look.

Thanks

Ken

Sounds like a GPS issue with file compatibility to me, I just checked all 4 DB1K files and they loaded without issue on my computer maps, GPS (Garmin 62s) and the GPS XML code looks absolutely fine. I have never had issues with any of Ryan's ADVroutes GPX files either.

I have written my own PHP script to generate GPS files for www.adventureguide.co.nz, basically it churns out a simplified GPX file with minimal XML tags to maximize compatibility with various GPS units. As part of the process it omits max/min latitude/longitude parameters as these can cause issues with some units. Personally I will be using Ryan's GPX files for the DB1K as they are fine but I will talk to Ryan later regarding the option to make a set of the simplified GPS files available on the DB1K downloads page, if these don't solve the issue with your unit then you may need to look at the unit itself causing the problem.

[pomgolian]

Ryan, it turned out that mine would only open the Main A and Main B+Clnge but not the Main A+Clnge or Main B routes.

Also several of the routes you loaded for me from your Adventure Routes site wouldn't open.

Grant and I ran through parts of the DB route during our trip after Christmas to the Catlins. When we were on sections of the routes the DB track would disappear at times. I wondered if I was using the wrong scale and the track was just "off screen".

If you are back in Christchurch I would be keen to drop it back around for you to have another look.

Thanks

Ken

Hi Ken i recently purchased a Montana and have been testing it out lately, the routes loaded & and will open in 250 waypoints without problems, one thing my setting are slightly diferent to yours, have you got the latest software (or maybe mine is older)

Got a week getting to the DB1K so will have had plently of use by then.

Paul

[Tigerpig]

Hi Ken i recently purchased a Montana and have been testing it out lately, the routes loaded & and will open in 250 waypoints without problems, one thing my setting are slightly diferent to yours, have you got the latest software (or maybe mine is older)

Got a week getting to the DB1K so will have had plently of use by then.

Paul

Hi Pomgolian. I have had the same issue as KenB above in that my Montana will not open two of the four routes. It works fine with Main A and MainB+Clnge, but will not open the other two. I posted my settings higher up this page and note that you said you have different settings. How are they different? I'm keen to try your settings to see if it will sort this problem.

Cheers.

[pomgolian]

Hi Pomgolian. I have had the same issue as KenB above in that my Montana will not open two of the four routes. It works fine with Main A and MainB+Clnge, but will not open the other two. I posted my settings higher up this page and note that you said you have different settings. How are they different? I'm keen to try your settings to see if it will sort this problem.

Cheers.

Hi i couldnt see all the sub menus in the routing but after looking closer it seems the same, the only diference i use is under set up-map- i use the small data fields instead of Nuvi but shouldnt make any diference, i also only have Topo Aus & NZ v3 enabled, just tried all four again and they all load & can GO TO on each.

[clint640]

The 640s almost ready to sail over on the 12th... :crazy:

Clint

[NordieBoy]

The 640s almost ready to sail over on the 12th... :crazy:

Clint

Without fork guards? You are crazy!

[cooneyr]

Hi Pomgolian. I have had the same issue as KenB above in that my Montana will not open two of the four routes. It works fine with Main A and MainB+Clnge, but will not open the other two. I posted my settings higher up this page and note that you said you have different settings. How are they different? I'm keen to try your settings to see if it will sort this problem.

Cheers.

Gidday Mate. I sent you an email (email address you supplied with your registration) with some of the changes that ADVGD suggested. Keen for you to have ago with the new files and let me know if they work. Get in touch please - your my guinea pig given I can't get my hands on a Montana at the moment.

Cheers R

[Tigerpig]

Gidday Mate. I sent you an email (email address you supplied with your registration) with some of the changes that ADVGD suggested. Keen for you to have ago with the new files and let me know if they work. Get in touch please - your my guinea pig given I can't get my hands on a Montana at the moment.

Cheers R

Apologies, I was away a couple of days. Thanks for the email and files. I have found a solution and sent back details by email. It appears that two of the routes (MainA+Clnge and MainB) were slightly too big for the Montana (or at least for my one with its current settings). My solution was to delete 2-3 waypoints in each route and it now opens all the files fine. I picked waypoints that were along reasonably straight runs and hence not that significant. Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

If anyone else is having problems with a Garmin Montana, I am happy to pass on what I learned.

Cheers, J

[pouakai]

Yuh I had just about come the same conclusion. I picked up a Montana yesterday and found I had to remove 2 waypoints from route B to get it to load.
Interesting as route A which does load has quite a few more waypoints.
Editing the gpx or deleting WP on the unit work equally well.

[gpcustom]

NOT LONG TO GO :ride:

[cooneyr]

Hi all Montana users. Flicked an email to tony at kiwigps last nightght and he had no obvious solutions. Suggest you stick with the remove a couple of way points approach.

Cheers R

[FJRider]

Without fork guards? You are crazy!

Chain needs adjusting too ... :pinch:

[Adux]

I was thinking of the Old Library Cafe Pizza place too, I see it's currently closed for renovation but surely that won't take too long.
One little problem is some people start getting back at 4 or 5pm and some are still arriving back approaching midnight.
I'd definitely like to have a end of event gathering.

There will be three more for a beer or two (or more), some food and a yarn on the Sunday evening if there is a get together.

[.chris]

There will be three more for a beer or two (or more), some food and a yarn on the Sunday evening if there is a get together.
Old library cafe is closed and will be for a while due to extensive fire damage.
There is a small pizza place next door now, not bad pizzas for a small town.

[Woodman]

Has the Gladstone fallen out of favour? Not a bad old pub. I'll be there Sunday night along with a few others. Keen for a gathering of some sort.

[_Shrek_]

Hi all Montana users. Flicked an email to tony at kiwigps last nightght and he had no obvious solutions. Suggest you stick with the remove a couple of way points approach.

Cheers R

hiya R
Off-spring will be taking his XT600 instead of the XLR250

[cooneyr]

hiya R
Off-spring will be taking his XT600 instead of the XLR250

Done.

Cheers R

[socialites]

Done.

Cheers R

Hi Ryan
Please be advised that "Jon the Pom" will be on his BMW 650 (and not the Dominator) and "Bluft" will be on a DR650 (and not his KTM990)

Thanks Mate

[Trials Rider]

Has the Gladstone fallen out of favour? Not a bad old pub. I'll be there Sunday night along with a few others. Keen for a gathering of some sort.

I think they are looking for a place with a swimming pool .... ..... somewhere for you to park your bike :2thumbsup :2thumbsup

[clint640]

Chain needs adjusting too ... :pinch:

Q: How do you know your KTM 640 chain is correctly adjusted?
A: People keep telling you your chain looks loose ;)

Just waiting on a top shock bearing now, which is due in today, should be back together & rockin tonight.

Cheers
Clint

[Padmei]

:killingme

On a more serious note.
Ryan Are there any fire danger alerts down there that would stop access to the usual route?

Only asking cos I got my fire extinguisher today
(FYI 300ml slimline one from NZ safety - if any of yous want one they may have to get you in as in Nelson the 5 that arrived yesterday have all gone:eek5:)

[Transalper]

ha ha, not Ryan obviously and 1.5 weeks out anything valid today may well be totally invalid then... but yep I think there's probably the usual Fire risk alearts and if you also saw the News a few days ago there was another dump of snow in the area (well it shut the Lindas Pass near the Omarama bit of the route so yea, in the area).
Maybe Ryan has the actual info but the weather is out of our hands so who cares and heaven forbid people start another panic assuming there's no back up plan, there's always a back up plan.. but it's called the sealed road!

[ADVGD]

Whatever the case I am not a fan of the pressurized fire extinguishers as they are not environmentally friendly, I will be carrying two 10 litre buckets full of water

[FJRider]

a few days ago there was another dump of snow in the area (well it shut the Lindas Pass near the Omarama bit of the route so yea, in the area).


The warm weather since has removed most of it. Rain is predicted over the next few days ... which will take out most of whats left. Unless more rain comes afterwards ... river levels should have dropped when you guys come through.

[Transalper]

The warm weather since has removed most of it. Rain is predicted over the next few days ... which will take out most of whats left. Unless more rain comes afterwards ... river levels should have dropped when you guys come through.

Was just trying to say it doesn't matter, as the rider preparation instruction page says, we are supposed to be prepared for anything, it snowed on us last year, it could again, it just has, or just as easily it could be 30+ºC.

Guess it's just become a pet peeve that people last two years spent so much time fussing over the weather and river conditions leading up to the DB1K, there's pretty much always a plan B but it's a bit crap and totally out of our hands so show up at the briefing and deal with it.
Ohhh, do I sound like an angry little Transalper or what??
Padmei look what you started with "any fire danger alerts down there that would stop access to the usual route?" and I doubt you were even actually seriously asking even though you claimed to be.
:laugh: think I'll go :ride:

[_Shrek_]

:shifty: I got matches, if it gets :cold: & if it's hot :scratch: I'll follow ADVGD

[Padmei]

Jesus TA what the fuck are you on?
Up here all the forests are closed due to extreme fire risk. There was a fire the other night out the back of us caused by the lightening storm.
The forests are closed to public - walkers & mtbers not because of the risk of them causing a fire but because if they are caught in the middle of a fire they're fucked.
My question was addressed to Ryan- god knows why you bothered to answer it? I recall you had quite a few pet peeves last year & couldn't manage to ignore them. You could just ignore them.

Fuck this

[Transalper]

:yes: topics of weather/river levels and tyres only ones I can think of off hand :innocent:



Still doesn't matter.

[_Shrek_]

Jesus TA what the fuck are you on?
Up here all the forests are closed due to extreme fire risk. There was a fire the other night out the back of us caused by the lightening storm.
The forests are closed to public - walkers & mtbers not because of the risk of them causing a fire but because if they are caught in the middle of a fire they're fucked.
My question was addressed to Ryan- god knows why you bothered to answer it? I recall you had quite a few pet peeves last year & couldn't manage to ignore them. You could just ignore them.

Fuck this

all your roads are closed coz of the fire risk :cry:
& ours are covered in snow & open with lotsa water :woohoo:

but & the end of the day I will carry a fire thingy :confused:

[ADVGD]

Jesus TA what the fuck are you on?
Up here all the forests are closed due to extreme fire risk. There was a fire the other night out the back of us caused by the lightening storm.
The forests are closed to public - walkers & mtbers not because of the risk of them causing a fire but because if they are caught in the middle of a fire they're fucked.
My question was addressed to Ryan- god knows why you bothered to answer it? I recall you had quite a few pet peeves last year & couldn't manage to ignore them. You could just ignore them.

Fuck this


Was just trying to say it doesn't matter, as the rider preparation instruction page says, we are supposed to be prepared for anything, it snowed on us last year, it could again, it just has, or just as easily it could be 30+ºC.

Guess it's just become a pet peeve that people last two years spent so much time fussing over the weather and river conditions leading up to the DB1K, there's pretty much always a plan B but it's a bit crap and totally out of our hands so show up at the briefing and deal with it.
Ohhh, do I sound like an angry little Transalper or what??
Padmei look what you started with "any fire danger alerts down there that would stop access to the usual route?" and I doubt you were even actually seriously asking even though you claimed to be.
:laugh: think I'll go :ride:


Along with my two 10 litre buckets of water I may also need to bring two "Time out" chairs if you two can't play nicely

[FJRider]

Along with my two 10 litre buckets of water I may also need to bring two "Time out" chairs if you two can't play nicely

I think both will be far too busy moaning about the rain.

[cooneyr]

Hi Ryan
Please be advised that "Jon the Pom" will be on his BMW 650 (and not the Dominator) and "Bluft" will be on a DR650 (and not his KTM990)

Thanks Mate

Done but would be nice to define BMW 650 a bit more. F650GS, F650GS Dakar, F650 (thats really an 800), G650 (I'm sure there is there more - can't recall them all).

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Along with my two 10 litre buckets of water I may also need to bring two "Time out" chairs if you two can't play nicely

What he said - and with a 3 year old at home I'm starting to get the hang of the time out thing. Me, I use to just the old shaving strop around my arse. Takes ya pick.

http://www.artfire.com/uploads/product/6/396/34396/3034396/3034396/large/time_out_little_monkey_time_out_chair_in_sage_and_ brown_9b26041a.jpghttp://shavenation.com/images/categories/Illinois%20Razor%20Strop.jpg

So back on topic - there are no fire warnings/road closures that I'm aware of. I spoke to the forestry management firm and they are OK with us going through. Local cockies advise that tops (talk stalky grass for ye townees) is dry but there is mostly a green base (short grass) at the moment. They have had a bunch of precipitation (rain and snow) but it is also very hot and dry around the back of Waimate at the moment. Long story short God only knows what we will come across and you need to be prepared for anything i.e. 30+ degrees to -10 degrees and snow.

I'm not going to be going back through the group this year offering help - I wanted to play in the snow too last year :yes:

One thing I'm a touch worried about is the depth of water in the rivers and the state of the crossings. Apparently the entry to the first water crossing could be a bit interesting (where's me camera LOL :innocent:)

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

What he said - and with a 3 year old at home I'm starting to get the hang of the time out thing. Me, I use to just the old shaving strop around my arse. Takes ya pick.

use the leather :Punk: the chair is about as much use as the pic

:shifty: you can fit the leather on the bike for the 3 year olds on the ride :whistle:

[socialites]

Done but would be nice to define BMW 650 a bit more. F650GS, F650GS Dakar, F650 (thats really an 800), G650 (I'm sure there is there more - can't recall them all).

Cheers R

Hi Ryan, sorry that I did not give more info re the BMW650, Seratao, the one that took the place of the Dakar, I believe its the GS650..but really not sure as I am not such a great BMW fan anyway.

Regards

[Trials Rider]

I dont want to stir the pot about the weather but the forestry down here isn't such a big problem at the moment, it is dry grass fires that start easier and are usually more exposed to wind so travel fast.:shit:

EVERYONE should have a fire extinguisher (or a bucket or water) or a swatter.

If you have a fairly open exhaust it would be prudent to put a mesh spark arrester on, if you don't and you cause a fire it could be seen as negligence and your insurance could back out on you. :shit::shit::facepalm:

I dont want to sound like a scare munger but people will take you to task especially when large sums of money are involved so use the CARE principal "Cover Arse Remain Employed":yes:

Ok now that shit is done with I am looking forward to another awesome DB ride and catching up with a good bunch of guys (even if you sitting on a time out chair):Playnice:

See you down there

[XF650]

For various reason I won't be riding this year, but the DB is in my blood so I'll still be staying with riders each night & doing work stuff during the day.
I will be taking my ute & trailer if anyone needs busted bikes recovered (Padmei), but within reason re location. Note this isn't a bike fix-it service - all riders must be self-sufficient.
However I may be able to carry stuff for riders in special circumstances - PM me to discuss.
XF

[Trials Rider]

For various reason I won't be riding this year, but the DB is in my blood so I'll still be staying with riders each night & doing work stuff during the day.
I will be taking my ute & trailer if anyone needs busted bikes recovered (Padmei), but within reason re location. Note this isn't a bike fix-it service - all riders must be self-sufficient.
However I may be able to carry stuff for riders in special circumstances - PM me to discuss.
XF

Hey Struan

Can you tow a smoke chaser fire unit if it is hot :sweatdrop and a diesel heater in case it is cold :cold:, if it is hot we would also like nice cold drinks ready for us when we get back :laugh:, if it is cold we would like heated towels and dry clothes ready for us when we get back please :laugh:.

I know this sounds a little demanding but if you are going to be a good support bitch these are our expectations :shit:.

BTW you may need to leave room for a couple of chairs with special labels "play nicely" :facepalm:

Apart from that we have no demands ........ yet

[XF650]

Hey Struan

Can you tow a smoke chaser fire unit if it is hot :sweatdrop and a diesel heater in case it is cold :cold:, if it is hot we would also like nice cold drinks ready for us when we get back :laugh:, if it is cold we would like heated towels and dry clothes ready for us when we get back please :laugh:.

I know this sounds a little demanding but if you are going to be a good support bitch these are our expectations :shit:.

BTW you may need to leave room for a couple of chairs with special labels "play nicely" :facepalm:

Apart from that we have no demands ........ yet

After careful consideration there's only thing of yours I will carry, and her name isn't Paul.

[MXNUT]

A bit of a long sob story :violin:.......best grab a coffee or a Beer.

Back in early november 2011 i decided it was time to upgrade my DRZ400 and after carefull consideration settled on a new Husqvarna TE630.:yes:
Off i went to the local dealer to buy one. None in the country at the moment, so i ordered one which i was told should arrive in NZ before the end of December.
All good there, should be just in time for the 2012 Dusty Butt.
Anyway later in november on a taranaki adventure ride the DRZ developed a worring knock from the engine. Early december i pulled the engine down expecting to put a new piston and rings in it and be away again. To my dismay :weep: i found that the bore was scored and would need to be resleeved or replaced.

After a bit of internet time i located a 440 cc big bore kit at a shop in auckland and purchased online.
This kit was piston / rings gaskets and oversize sleeve. I had the kit sent directly to the engineering shop in hastings who was goung to do the resleeving work.
Had a phone call from them a few days later saying that the piston was standard size and the sleeve was a big bore size.:brick:
Back on the phone to the supplier, no other kit or piston in NZ at the time and as it was now the week before christmas and they were closing down for the next 3 weeks nothing could happen untill mid january.

By this time i was also getting quite nervous about the arrival of the new bike. Went back to see the dealer again, but could net get an actual date off him when the bike would be here.
Was not looking like it was going to be here before the end of january.:facepalm:

Time to come up with plan B.
I quickly located an IMS 18L tank for my partners DR650 and swaped the suspension back to standard from low rider mode, a few other mods and i was away on the Dusty Butt :scooter::scooter::scooter:

New Husky didnt turn up at dealer untill nearly the end of Februray, but was worth waiting for. DRZ was sold and had gone to a new home as a 440 :2thumbsup


Roll on late 2012 and Santa said he was bringing me a FMF exhaust / EFI Tuner and Safari long range fuel tank for christmas, all ordered in early november again.
Well FMF ran out of the exhausts and had to back order them, Safari had to make a tank as they had none instock but both would be here in NZ by early December.
Should be plenty of time.

Safari fuel tank was the last to arrive on about the 4th of december. At this stage i was down the south island for 10 days with work and a quick holiday.
Then back to work for a few days before having a Knee operation ( which had also been put off from an earlier date by the surgeon), with just enough recovery time to be back on the bike for the trip down to the Dusty Butt.

Weekend before Christmas while at home recovering from the knee surgery i fitted the exhaust / EFI power tuner and safari fuel tank. Filled the tank up with gas and fired her up.
All SEEMED good but as it was only 5 days after surgery i could not ride the bike.

Left it in the shed and after christmas went away on Holiday again for another 10 days.

Got home last weekend and opened up the shed to the smell of petrol, no obvious leaks but when i checked the level in the fuel tank it was down about 6-8 litres.:weep:

Pulled the fuel tank off on monday night and after some careful checking and measuring i found the the surface on the new tank where the fuel pump bolts to is not straight with a distortion of the mating surface of about 3-4 mm, way more than the rubber gasket could hope to overcome. Not really much i could do to remedy that.

Tried to contact Safari tanks in austraila, but guess what they are still closed for the Hoilidays.:argh:

So back to plan B again, my partners DR650.
Time to purchase some new front and rear brake pads and a countershaft sprocket, as they will probably not last the distance and organize another new tyre (17 inch instead of 18 inch ).
Give it a quick service and swap that suspension back to standard height and i should be good to go by next wednesday.

So Ryan, can you change my entry again from a TE630 to a DR650.


I am starting to wonder if the universe is trying to tell me that i should own and ride a DR650. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

[DR Girl]

God Mark. . . . I just want to give you a hug :cry:

[chc4me]

I'm one of these late bookers for accommodation ... anyone know of any spare rooms anywhere in Fairlie?

Thanks
Dai

[Bluft]

In the same boat here MXNUT. Parts for a repair for the 990 ordered beginning of Nov/ ment to take 3-4weeks to arrive. Parts still not here 1week ago so it was off to the bank to extend the morgage, buy a 2nd hand DR650, put on an 18l tank and strap bags and crap all over her as i have no pannier system. See you at DB

[NordieBoy]

Jeez. My TT bits ordered a couple of days before xmas arrived ex-oz 4 days ago and I'm not even going to the DB...

[whatastoner]

I'm one of these late bookers for accommodation ... anyone know of any spare rooms anywhere in Fairlie?

Thanks
Dai

I've booked a room at the top 10 Fairlie. Can't remember if it has a bunk bed. If it does, you're welcome to it. No snorers

[chc4me]

I've booked a room at the top 10 Fairlie. Can't remember if it has a bunk bed. If it does, you're welcome to it. No snorers

No Snorers?? Well that counts me out !! I've been able to find a B&B 3 km from the centre of town, fingers crossed, you won't hear me from that distance :)
Accommodation in Fairly is VERY full.

[whatastoner]

Damn! Just dodged a bullet there.

[chc4me]

I've lucked in with a friend for accommodation (he snores too so all good!) so if anyone needs to book accommodation in Fairlie PM me and I'll put you on to the B&B that I know has a space.

[GPS MAN]

SO, Mark ~ what do you want me to do with this 18" tyre I have here for You?????

"What a tangled web we weave!"

See You at the DB!

Wade

[clint640]

I am starting to wonder if the universe is trying to tell me that i should own and ride a DR650. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

That's not the universe, it's the dark forces of evil :pinch: You must resist :ar15: Bugger!

I got the 640 back together Tuesday night after good few hrs of on it over the last week, stripdown/cleanup, sorted out a bunch of minor stuff that has been bugging me for a while, made a gps mount & wired in a power supply, did a thorough service & a repaired/reinforced a crack in the subframe. The motor now sounds like a bucket of bolts being poured into a concrete mixer so perfect normal running condition there & good to go :2thumbsup even got a warrant with flying colours yesterday. Sailing over Saturday. As long as the new rear tyre I have had sent to my Stavely bivouac gets there before me I am set.

Cheers
Clint

[cooneyr]

... BMW650, Seratao, ....

Much appreciated.


....So Ryan, can you change my entry again from a TE630 to a DR650.....

That sux big time. Still I doubt many will keep up - you could manage some pretty decent pace on the DR650.


I... extend the morgage, buy a 2nd hand DR650, ...

That sounds like the worse move in the history of biking - extending the mortgage to buy a DR650!!! Bad luck that you had too.


That's not the universe, it's the dark forces of evil :pinch: You must resist :ar15: Bugger!

I reckon. Seems Suzuki is the most common brand and DR650 the most common bike. Last year KTM was most common brand but DR650 most common bike. Another perspective (that makes me feel better as a EXC owner) is that there was 20 EXC's of all capacities vs 20 DR650's in 2012. Unfortunately this year, because people keep swapping to DR650's there are 25 DR650's vs 21 EXC's. So I'll call EXC's for second most common bike, rather than DZ400's :msn-wink:

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Seems Suzuki is the most common brand and DR650 the most common bike. Last year KTM was most common brand but DR650 most common bike. Another perspective (that makes me feel better as a EXC owner) is that there was 20 EXC's of all capacities vs 20 DR650's in 2012. Unfortunately this year, because people keep swapping to DR650's there are 25 DR650's vs 21 EXC's. So I'll call EXC's for second most common bike, rather than DZ400's :msn-wink:

Cheers R

Sooo...

If you add the DR650's and the DR400(Z)'s together?

:woohoo:

[Waihou Thumper]

Much appreciated.


I reckon. Seems Suzuki is the most common brand and DR650 the most common bike.

Cheers R

And from another perspective, the DR650 is the most suitable bike for the terrain based on its pedigree as seen in Oz? :)
Not knocking KTM either, I bet if Mark had one spare in the garage he would have kitted that out as well.
Mind you, Mark could ride a DR200 and still clobber us all around the traps:)

[Crim]

Seems Suzuki is the most common brand and DR650 the most common bike. Last year KTM was most common brand but DR650 most common bike.

Can we get Josh to make the list sortable by bike (I know he hasn't much else to do at the moment:nya:) then I can get straight to the cool KLR riders without scrolling through all the other wannabees ;)

[clint640]

Can we get Josh to make the list sortable by bike (I know he hasn't much else to do at the moment:nya:) then I can get straight to the cool KLR riders without scrolling through all the other wannabees ;)

Hang around the main road into Alex after dark on the 19th & you'll find the KLR's have assumed their natural position in the group :jerry:;)

Clint

[Woodman]

Hang around the main road into Alex after dark on the 19th & you'll find the KLR's have assumed their natural position in the group :jerry:;)

Clint

That almost sounds like a challenge:ar15:

[Buddha#81]

That almost sounds like a challenge:ar15:

I bet ya a DR and raise you a EXC :eek5:

[pete-blen]

With a week to go.I see theres still 9 riders that haven't fronted up with the coin..
just a thought...maybe a payment cut off date..Any riders that haven't payed by that date
there place is given to the riders that were two slow to reg in the first 150..
Seems a shame that these guys could be keeping serious riders out...

[MXNUT]

That almost sounds like a challenge:ar15:

There are no big puddles by the main road, so you should be up for the challenge :bash::bash::bash:

[Woodman]

There are no big puddles by the main road, so you should be up for the challenge :bash::bash::bash:

A bloke misjudges the depth of one puddle .....................................

[cooneyr]

A bloke misjudges the depth of one puddle .....................................

Unlike the vegetables you are not getting away with it lol

[dino3310]

A bit of a long sob story :violin:.......best grab a coffee or a Beer.


[/B]. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

sounds like ya need a big man hug:cry:

my piggy's here if your gammy leg can start it

[_Shrek_]

A bloke misjudges the depth of one puddle .....................................

:eek5: you call that a puddle.............. not that I remember it :rolleyes:

[Trials Rider]

A bloke misjudges the depth of one puddle .....................................

If that was a puddle I would love to see a large bog hole :laugh:

Dont worry I rang Central Otago District Council and asked them to pump out anything deeper than 300mm deep including swimming pools and puddles in the main st

[Buddha#81]

Whats the longest section between fuel stops? Laurence to Omarama? 280km-ish?

[Transalper]

290km if doing challenge section according to the fuel stops chart provided on the DB1k website which you should have downloaded and read - did I say that last bit out loud - oh no I might be in trouble again.

[Buddha#81]

290km if doing challenge section according to the fuel stops chart provided on the DB1k website which you should have downloaded and read - did I say that last bit out loud - oh no I might be in trouble again.

Much easier asking......and see I got the answer :) Dont worry the comment will keep till next weekend, watch out around the river crossings

[gpcustom]

What gearing are other ktm riders using. Ive got 14/50 was thinking of trying a 15/50 but might be to tall for it?? Any info would be good as im replacing chain sprokets rear tyre oil filters / air filter radiator coolent and maybe brake pads :whistle:

[Dont Know]

Hi Mark, sorry to hear about your hicup with the tank, I had a similler battle when I fitted the Safari tank to my TE, although not as significant 3-4 mm distortion in the pump fitting, but it certainly needed some care in getting it to seal correctly.

See you at the DB.

Cheeers Al

A bit of a long sob story :violin:.......best grab a coffee or a Beer.


So back to plan B again, my partners DR650.
Time to purchase some new front and rear brake pads and a countershaft sprocket, as they will probably not last the distance and organize another new tyre (17 inch instead of 18 inch ).
Give it a quick service and swap that suspension back to standard height and i should be good to go by next wednesday.

So Ryan, can you change my entry again from a TE630 to a DR650.


I am starting to wonder if the universe is trying to tell me that i should own and ride a DR650. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

[cooneyr]

What gearing are other ktm riders using. Ive got 14/50 was thinking of trying a 15/50 but might be to tall for it?? Any info would be good as im replacing chain sprokets rear tyre oil filters / air filter radiator coolent and maybe brake pads :whistle:

I use 13/45. Good for 100+ comfortably and will still do challenges ok. 14/50 is a little slower and 15/50 is a bit faster. I'd stick with the 14/50.

Cheers R

[pouakai]

I'm running 13/51 obviously on the shorter side but I'm still getting 130+ which is more than enough for that bike...

[gpcustom]

Ok was just wondering what others were runinig. Will stick with the 14/50. I have had it up to 159kmh one time when i was coming back over the dunstan trail when i first got it road legal:devil2:

[ADVGD]

A short vid on one of the sections of the DB1K for day #2, not one of the challenge/technical sections but a fun fast flowing section of gravel

Full article here: Home Hills Runs Road (http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/281/home-hills-runs-road.php)

<iframe width="650" height="366" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rXsdCcU9fjo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[GPS MAN]

Very Good ~ really enjoyed the vid...."The excitement builds!"

[pouakai]

Ok was just wondering what others were runinig. Will stick with the 14/50. I have had it up to 159kmh one time when i was coming back over the dunstan trail when i first got it road legal:devil2:

Just did a boot around the waimak tonight with the 13/51 installed cruising comfortably at around 115 on the seal with enough left for overtaking should the need arise.
P

[pouakai]

For all those you have done the dusty on a KTM450EXC or similar (9l standard tank) how much extra fuel are you planning for the Lawrenece-Omara(290km) leg?
I am thinking it could be as much as another 9l ? Does that sound about right ? Interested to see the range of solutions peps on these bikes have come up with for carrying that much extra....

Ive never run my tank dry so if anyone knows what it takes to do so on a KTM450EXC I'd be interested to hear.

Cheers all
P

Replying to my own post:
I have the figures now. I did a ride out round the Waimak tonight riding lots of gravel at 90-100k, as much off road trail terrain (single track, river bed, sand and shingle) as I could find ridden at about 7/10ths, bike is 2009 450EXC with 4500Ks. Main tank went dry at 105km, reserve at 123.7km and took 8.8l to refill (spec says 9l).
So 14.06 kpl or 7.11 l/100k or 21l for the Alexandra-omarama leg or (12l in the saddle bags !) - on the thirsty side, but I was having fun not nursing it.

See you Friday!
P