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mossy1200
17th August 2013, 11:20
Ah gotcha now. Thought you meant the 2013 has more cc and power than the 2012 etc. I wish! As you were...
Prob be 2014 and ill end up needing upgrade the 14
Crasherfromwayback
17th August 2013, 11:30
Prob be 2014 and ill end up needing upgrade the 14
Got a nasty feeling we may have to wait until 2015 for an upgrade for that and the GSXR1000 after talking to Suzuki NZ. But could be (read I hope) wrong. Long over due I feel.
onearmedbandit
17th August 2013, 13:32
Generation 2 zx1441r 2012 and 2013 is a low 9 stock. The 2013 busa also has more hp and cc.
I think you may be trolling gen1 zx14 <2011
http://dragbikelive.com/news/12661/hot-off-the-press/video-2012-zx14r-runs-9-25et-151mph-in-stock-formlas-vegas-strip/
That thing has lowered, which makes a good difference on the strip.
caspernz
17th August 2013, 13:58
Ah gotcha now. Thought you meant the 2013 has more cc and power than the 2012 etc. I wish! As you were...
Well the secret is that the yellow ones are faster :bs:
Crasherfromwayback
17th August 2013, 14:37
Well the secret is that the yellow ones are faster :bs:
Yeah sure as hell look it! How're you enjoying yours?
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 14:49
That thing has lowered, which makes a good difference on the strip.
Which shows that it not the hp but the ability to use it. This is why the expected difference in time in the 1/4 is small but the terminal speed difference is quite a lot.
12/13 zxs are still high 9s without front straps and rear lowered.
The Reibz
17th August 2013, 15:19
Anyone else going to the cliffhanger sprints?
I am taking my Gen 1 Busa
Just need a person with a Gen 2 and a ZX14R now. Settle this beef in a straight up grudge match drag hahaha.
Got a feeling that we might see factory turbos on these bikes within the next ten years. As long as still you can remove the 299kph limiter im all for it
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 15:24
Anyone else going to the cliffhanger sprints?
I am taking my Gen 1 Busa
Just need a person with a Gen 2 and a ZX14R now. Settle this beef in a straight up grudge match drag hahaha.
Got a feeling that we might see factory turbos on these bikes within the next ten years. As long as still you can remove the 299kph limiter im all for it
I want to take mine to see if the reflash took the limiters away.
The Reibz
17th August 2013, 15:53
How much did it cost to get it reflashed? Did you have to send it overseas?
nzspokes
17th August 2013, 17:08
Generation 2 zx1441r 2012 and 2013 is a low 9 stock. The 2013 busa also has more hp and cc.
I think you may be trolling gen1 zx14 <2011
http://dragbikelive.com/news/12661/hot-off-the-press/video-2012-zx14r-runs-9-25et-151mph-in-stock-formlas-vegas-strip/
Current bikes taken from mcn reviews.
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 18:23
How much did it cost to get it reflashed? Did you have to send it overseas?
Guhl reflash. I think was 600.I had it done before collecting the bike while waiting for pipes. Sent to usa took, 2 weeks to get it back.
Stylo
17th August 2013, 18:23
Which shows that it not the hp but the ability to use it. This is why the expected difference in time in the 1/4 is small but the terminal speed difference is quite a lot.
12/13 zxs are still high 9s without front straps and rear lowered.
I took a ZX14 ( last model ) down at Ruapuna a few months ago but only just and low 10's and that was a lot of fun on my Gen 2.
Any real life stories Mossy ?
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 18:28
Current bikes taken from mcn reviews.
That's the generation 1 zx14 1352cc
Generation 2 is 1441cc with 20odd extra hp and more torque plus traction control and run under 10sec even with traction control on. On this setting hp is limited to 175 in first and second gear also.
The Reibz
17th August 2013, 18:30
I took a ZX14 ( last model ) down at Ruapuna a few months ago but only just and low 10's and that was a lot of fun on my Gen 2.
Any real life stories Mossy ?
Fuck mate you make it sound like low 10's is bad or something. Top effort chap.
Hey mossy, highy recommend you check out Schnitz Racing. They would have done your ECU for 60USD. I have ordered over $2000USD worth of turbo parts from them. Highly recommend them, Ryan also runs a drag school so only stocks the best shit available.
http://store.schnitzracing.com/categories/kawasaki/ninja-zx14.html
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 18:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hihDxIfA88
2 stock standards racing
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 19:03
Fuck mate you make it sound like low 10's is bad or something. Top effort chap.
Hey mossy, highy recommend you check out Schnitz Racing. They would have done your ECU for 60USD. I have ordered over $2000USD worth of turbo parts from them. Highly recommend them, Ryan also runs a drag school so only stocks the best shit available.
http://store.schnitzracing.com/categories/kawasaki/ninja-zx14.html
I was looking for invoice. Cant find yet but wife says she thinks we paid 1450 for yoshis and reflash and yoshi tail tidy which means reflash including insured freight was about 450 through brock's performance. the return freight was 55usd with insurance of that price and I think the sending freight was $50nzd. I got the bike shop to do it for me before I purchaced the bike.
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 19:20
I took a ZX14 ( last model ) down at Ruapuna a few months ago but only just and low 10's and that was a lot of fun on my Gen 2.
Any real life stories Mossy ?
Got some 10 evens at Masterton but must admit once the wheel came up I didn't want to let it down again.
Wasn't very good at it. My best reaction time was .7 sec. I think terminal speed was between 230-240kph every run.
Found some of my zx12r results from 2005. Seems like I won.
Standing 1/4 mile | 25 September 2005 | Fastest Overall
#
Name
Bike
Time
mph
Km/h
1 J Gibbens Suzuki GSXR600 2005 11.01 81.75 131.56
5 J Glover Suzuki GSX1300R 2003 10.95 82.19 132.28
6 N Keenan Kawasaki 636 2005 11.76 76.53 123.17
9 D Bentley Honda CBC1000RR 2005 10.31 87.30 140.49
10 B Carter Honda CDR 600 1999 11.38 79.09 127.28
13 S Story Honda VTR250 1998 16.87 53.35 85.86
15 J Kelly Honda VT250 1988 11.56 77.86 125.30
16 C Pullen Suzuki GSX1200 2001 11.37 79.16 127.39
18 C Fairbrother MV Augusta F4 1000 2004 10.44 86.21 138.74
19 S Mossman Kawasaki ZX12R 2005 10.31 87.30 140.49
20 S Guilkin Suzuki 1300 2005 10.70 84.11 135.37
onearmedbandit
17th August 2013, 19:36
Which shows that it not the hp but the ability to use it. This is why the expected difference in time in the 1/4 is small but the terminal speed difference is quite a lot.
12/13 zxs are still high 9s without front straps and rear lowered.
Agreed 100%. I remember a turbo GSXR1000 here in NZ that apparently was slower down the 1/4 than a standard one. Makes sense.
nzspokes
17th August 2013, 20:04
15 J Kelly Honda VT250 1988 11.56 77.86 125.30
thats the one that impressed me the most. :shit:
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 20:13
thats the one that impressed me the most. :shit:
faster than a 636
Maybe it was quad turbo with nitro
onearmedbandit
17th August 2013, 20:17
Found some of my zx12r results from 2005. Seems like I won.
9 D Bentley Honda CBC1000RR 2005 10.31 87.30 140.49
..............................
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19 S Mossman Kawasaki ZX12R 2005 10.31 87.30 140.49
Nope, seems you were neck and neck with Deano in every stat lol. Guessing something got fucked up in your copy and paste?
mossy1200
17th August 2013, 20:24
Nope, seems you were neck and neck with Deano in every stat lol. Guessing something got fucked up in your copy and paste?
Nope it was a draw. Both bikes did similar times all day. He had his best in run 2 and mine was in run 3 so they wernt even in the same run. Then I did the same time in run 4
http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/sprints/results/2005_results.html
It looks like the last figures are a calculated average speed not a terminal speed which would mean same time equals same average also.
The flying on the 12 wasn't good as it sat on the speed limiter which 299kph indicated is 25 about true speed.
caspernz
17th August 2013, 21:08
Yeah sure as hell look it! How're you enjoying yours?
It's rather lovely Pete, the trick is the balancing act between the Jekyll & Hyde personality :eek:
Kornholio
18th August 2013, 01:09
Got some 10 evens at Masterton but must admit once the wheel came up I didn't want to let it down again.
Wasn't very good at it. My best reaction time was .7 sec. I think terminal speed was between 230-240kph every run.
Found some of my zx12r results from 2005. Seems like I won.
Standing 1/4 mile | 25 September 2005 | Fastest Overall
#
Name
Bike
Time
mph
Km/h
1 J Gibbens Suzuki GSXR600 2005 11.01 81.75 131.56
5 J Glover Suzuki GSX1300R 2003 10.95 82.19 132.28
6 N Keenan Kawasaki 636 2005 11.76 76.53 123.17
9 D Bentley Honda CBC1000RR 2005 10.31 87.30 140.49
10 B Carter Honda CDR 600 1999 11.38 79.09 127.28
13 S Story Honda VTR250 1998 16.87 53.35 85.86
15 J Kelly Honda VT250 1988 11.56 77.86 125.30
16 C Pullen Suzuki GSX1200 2001 11.37 79.16 127.39
18 C Fairbrother MV Augusta F4 1000 2004 10.44 86.21 138.74
19 S Mossman Kawasaki ZX12R 2005 10.31 87.30 140.49
20 S Guilkin Suzuki 1300 2005 10.70 84.11 135.37
Sounds all kocha, but go the VT250 doing 11.5's :/ My GSXR 750 with standard gearing and such did 10.6' all day at Meremere... Launch is the key + traction ;)
Drew
18th August 2013, 09:11
Agreed 100%. I remember a turbo GSXR1000 here in NZ that apparently was slower down the 1/4 than a standard one. Makes sense.
At Meremere, on my rotten old FZR750 I had the turbo Gixxer thou fucked, to two thirds track.
Leaving the line was the bit he struggled with. Once he could let it breath it was all over.
AllanB
18th August 2013, 10:36
I wonder what the next hyperbike will be - any speculation, there are a multiple of factories capable of making a Kawa/Busa beater. Bring back the Blackbird name?
mossy1200
18th August 2013, 10:39
I wonder what the next hyperbike will be - any speculation, there are a multiple of factories capable of making a Kawa/Busa beater. Bring back the Blackbird name?
I think bmw will have a go with k1400s soon.
AllanB
18th August 2013, 10:47
I think bmw will have a go with k1400s soon.
I was thinking similar - they are on a mission. If Aprilia had the desire they have v4 experience to throw at a big block arse-kicking road burner.
And if Yamaha took the V-Max engine, tweaked it and put it in a motorcycle that was actually desirable they could be on a winner.
Big Dave
18th August 2013, 11:17
that was actually desirable
I had no attraction till I rode one. Changes your mind.
It surges from stationery like a Rocket III but where the Rocket runs out of puff, it keeps pulling uniformly all the way to the trap - like a Hyperbike.
Quite intoxicating.
Great brakes, pretty comfortable, unique presence. After living with one: you say ugly, I say brutal.
The Reibz
18th August 2013, 12:32
Yamaha needs to come up with a answer in the hyperbike world.
On a side note, I would take a ride on this anyday...
http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/attachments/gen-ii-busa-information/192634d1277395616-hayabusa-bmw-bp09posterheatherv3_700.jpg
Blackbird
18th August 2013, 15:07
I wonder what the next hyperbike will be - any speculation, there are a multiple of factories capable of making a Kawa/Busa beater. Bring back the Blackbird name?
Honda had their chance for a Blackbird 2 instead of that ugly, short range VFR 1200. I know that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and there are some innovative features but world-wide sales haven't been at all flash. I still regard my 8 year ownership of a Blackbird with huge affection but going to the Street Triple nearly 4 years ago has brought a different sort of enjoyment for the type of riding I mainly do nowadays and still think I made the right choice in moving right away from something I'd only be drawing comparisons with..
Of course, if my wife gave permission, I could have a Street Triple AND a hyperbike. Hell will freeze over first :weep:
Big Dave
18th August 2013, 15:10
Of course, if my wife gave permission,
Don't you have an apron to go iron or something....
Blackbird
18th August 2013, 15:14
Don't you have an apron to go iron or something....
No ironing today Dave, but it is my turn to cook tea. I'm surprised that you can't see the thumbprint on my head from QLD :msn-wink:
Big Dave
18th August 2013, 15:27
No ironing today Dave, but it is my turn to cook tea. I'm surprised that you can't see the thumbprint on my head from QLD :msn-wink:
It's simple. You let her buy any car she wants and you get carte blanche on bikes.
Blackbird
18th August 2013, 15:39
It's simple. You let her buy any car she wants and you get carte blanche on bikes.
Umm...... done that :yes: She has a Mazdaspeed-prepared MX5 which was the quid pro quo for the Triple, except it cost a bloody sight more. Not going down that route again :wacko:
Excuse me.... I have a lamb roast to get sorted for tea... :whistle:
AllanB
18th August 2013, 18:52
I had no attraction till I rode one. Changes your mind.
It surges from stationery like a Rocket III but where the Rocket runs out of puff, it keeps pulling uniformly all the way to the trap - like a Hyperbike.
Quite intoxicating.
Great brakes, pretty comfortable, unique presence. After living with one: you say ugly, I say brutal.
Not disputing the ability - but the above is like saying that fat chick with the limp and no front teeth that you shagged was the best sex you ever had. No doubt true, but would you want to rock up to the pub with her?
I know they were hell bent on honouring the original Vmax in style but .......
The Reibz
18th August 2013, 19:05
Not disputing the ability - but the above is like saying that fat chick with the limp and no front teeth that you shagged was the best sex you ever had. No doubt true, but would you want to rock up to the pub with her?
Does that even matter? I mean you still got a root right?
Big Dave
18th August 2013, 19:26
I know they were hell bent on honouring the original Vmax in style but .......
.....I own a Honda Hornet.
AllanB
18th August 2013, 20:56
I do ( and you are one record on KB as stating they are highly under-rated ...) and if I had 4 x what I paid for it to spend on a motorcycle I'd not buy a new Vmax ............ or a VF1200, or a ........
But then I'm not American and they were designed for them..................
Modern motorcycle styling is going to shit. All covered up and origami styling or repetitious copies of a 100 year old style (HD clones).
I'm a visual person - if I had the good fortune to have a unlimited budget I would find it fairly slim pickings to buy a physically desirable set of ten new bikes to fill my garage.
You are stuck in a profession where you have to be careful at what you write Dave - can't upset the money cart to much by stating you think it looks like a horses arse but goes like hell. Some British reviewers do but they are far a few apart now days. Same with new cars - considering any new vehicle requires a huge tooling investment it surprises me that someone designs a boring looking cage and then a committee approves it. Or worse a good looking vehicle is designed then some group pick out the gayest colours ever to paint them in!
Mind you the Simpsons did a show where Homer designed his ultimate car ............. maybe my ultimate motorcycle would suffer the same ending!
AllanB
18th August 2013, 20:59
I'd offer that a magazine that tells it like it is would be very entertaining and may do well. Hell - look at Top Gear - they do that and succeed!!!
AllanB
18th August 2013, 21:13
Maybe I should start a thread tonight about those fancy new batteries while I'm grumpy!
Anyway - Here you go - just to prove I'm not totally wrong or a total wanker .......
mossy1200
18th August 2013, 21:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t6qu7_-DDgA
power to burn
nzspokes
18th August 2013, 21:48
.....I own a Honda Hornet.
As do I. Suits me. Happy with it.
I cant say I care for a lot of the new bikes as they seem to try for the same look. I like the ZX14 as the front looks like no other. I also like the look of the Busa. For some reason I love the look of the VFR1200.
Big Dave
18th August 2013, 22:27
I didn't say there was anything wrong with a CB900.
The point was the guy who buys a V-max probably rates a Hornet just as 'undesirable'.
Big Dave
18th August 2013, 22:40
You are stuck in a profession where you have to be careful at what you write Dave -!
Arse biscuit.
I am neither stuck nor afeared.
I am merely accurate, vastly experienced and open minded.
But hey, lets talk about me.
BMWST?
18th August 2013, 22:57
Arse biscuit.
I am neither stuck nor afeared.
I am merely accurate, vastly experienced and open minded.
But hey, lets talk about me.
Bags not!
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AllanB
18th August 2013, 23:05
I didn't say there was anything wrong with a CB900.
I could make a list.....I did and have been changing and fixing it since I purchased - a nice canvas to work with.
Big Dave
19th August 2013, 12:02
Bags not!
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Off topic, but Go on - I wanted to say to Al that it's not my 'profession' .
From what I've been told there are only two qualified journalists in the NZ bike press.
The Ed at KR has a degree from Otago (and a Qantas award) and Roger Moroney is also qualified, but his was probably chiseled on a tablet.
But that's hearsay.
I avoid calling myself a Journalist - other than for convenience to someone who wouldn't understand anyway.
Freelance writers like me can (see what I did there) write what we like. The Editor and the Publisher decide if it gets printed. If I wrote about anything that was dangerous or a rip, then all of mine (publishers) would run it.
But I've never encountered it. Just fitness for the vehicles' intended application. That's what it is, 1250 words of: if you like.... then this bike will be good for you because it...
That's why I don't have to be careful and there isn't any pressure. I think you have to work for a Brit tabloid to do the 'Fat Boy is a shit track bike because we tell it like it is' routine.
Ad mogul David Ogilvy had a quote: 'Does advertising corrupt editors? Yes it does, but fewer editors than you may suppose... the vast majority of editors are incorruptible.'
Drew
19th August 2013, 12:09
I could make a list.....I did and have been changing and fixing it since I purchased - a nice canvas to work with.Limited in no small part, by the stupid fucken frame.
You can do lots to them, (replacing the swingarm would be a good starting point), but in the end it's still gonna bend in the middle.
Big Dave
19th August 2013, 13:30
I never noticed any deficiencies with several units in street use - even lugging my weight around and pulling the odd stunt.
Some produce more engine buzz than others, but it was only minor.
Good value. If you can't afford/don't like a new Speed Triple - you get a lot of that vibe for the coin.
You sure it wasn't just a rooted shock?
Ender EnZed
19th August 2013, 13:48
would you want to rock up to the pub with her?
I know they were hell bent on honouring the original Vmax in style but .......
I think the V-Max looks pretty awesome...
And it's a fair bit more "hyper" compared its rivals (V-Rod, Diavel) than a Busa or ZX14 is to half a dozen litre bikes.
And if Yamaha took the V-Max engine, tweaked it and put it in a motorcycle that was actually desirable they could be on a winner.
I want an FJR1700.
Drew
19th August 2013, 14:03
I never noticed any deficiencies with several units in street use - even lugging my weight around and pulling the odd stunt.
Some produce more engine buzz than others, but it was only minor.
Good value. If you can't afford/don't like a new Speed Triple - you get a lot of that vibe for the coin.
You sure it wasn't just a rooted shock?The shock and swingarm give trouble first, but push past that and things start getting interesting.
I was riding the thing WAY past it's designed purposes though. But if someone is upgrading a bike, the design brief of it got thrown out the first time a spanner went near it.
Big Dave
19th August 2013, 14:17
You'd know better than me in extreme situations.
I would offer that I have read from suspension experts saying that many a blame pointed at the frame was truly the suspenders.
Such blasphemy as putting modern suspension on a stock Kawasaki Mach III makes it handle just fine. Non-hinged in fact.
Only what I have read though.
Crasherfromwayback
19th August 2013, 14:19
Such blasphemy as putting modern suspension on a stock Kawasaki Mach III makes it handles just fine. Non-hinged in fact.
Only what I have read though.
Yeah nah. Still have a swingarm and frame tubes made of spagetti.
Gremlin
19th August 2013, 14:27
The shock and swingarm give trouble first, but push past that and things start getting interesting.
I was riding the thing WAY past it's designed purposes though. But if someone is upgrading a bike, the design brief of it got thrown out the first time a spanner went near it.
Well, it was a cheap fun bike, suspension right out of the budget bin, brakes soft etc. One of the few larger capacity bikes that learners from 250s could step up to, as it was gentle if you wanted it.
I've felt the bike flex a bit, sort of steering the two ends when you're nudging it through quicker corners, but don't push it that hard any more.
Kickaha
19th August 2013, 15:57
I would offer that I have read from suspension experts saying that many a blame pointed at the frame was truly the suspenders.
Such blasphemy as putting modern suspension on a stock Kawasaki Mach III makes it handle just fine. Non-hinged in fact.
New shocks sorted out a friends "frame/swingarm" flex on his TX650, I've seen it a few times
Drew
19th August 2013, 19:31
You'd know better than me in extreme situations.
I would offer that I have read from suspension experts saying that many a blame pointed at the frame was truly the suspenders.
Such blasphemy as putting modern suspension on a stock Kawasaki Mach III makes it handle just fine. Non-hinged in fact.
Only what I have read though.Oh for sure. The suspension is lacking badly.
For most bikes and riders, a decent shock and fork internals and their bike will become a much nicer machine.
I loved my Hornet. Great fun, and with the right motivation would keep up with any sports bike I ever rode with.
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 19:45
Oh for sure. The suspension is lacking badly.
For most bikes and riders, a decent shock and fork internals and their bike will become a much nicer machine.
I loved my Hornet. Great fun, and with the right motivation would keep up with any sports bike I ever rode with.
Im looking for a decent shock that dont cost more than the bike. Done the fork and its great, back is a bit soggy.
Short pipe makes it scream though. :eek:
98tls
19th August 2013, 19:48
New shocks sorted out a friends "frame/swingarm" flex on his TX650, I've seen it a few times
Havent seen one of those for years,no idea why but i kinda like em,got any pics?
T.W.R
19th August 2013, 19:53
Such blasphemy as putting modern suspension on a stock Kawasaki Mach III makes it handle just fine. Non-hinged in fact.
:yes: ......
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18202&d=1129847455
98tls
19th August 2013, 19:53
Im looking for a decent shock that dont cost more than the bike. Done the fork and its great, back is a bit soggy.
Short pipe makes it scream though. :eek:
Ive read no reviews of it but i took a punt on a rear damper unit made by these guys for the S and have been well surprised with how well its worked be it having a laugh on my own or the bike packed up with gear and the Mrs...http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hagon-shocks.co.uk%2Fcatalog%2Fpartdetail.aspx%3Fpartno% 3DM61099&ei=C84RUqy_OsuUiQeJqIH4DA&usg=AFQjCNGGqp4p3E6IEfXZmJRGLUkPq92Y8A&bvm=bv.50768961,d.aGcDoesnt come with an Ohlins sticker but then i dont give a fuck.
98tls
19th August 2013, 19:56
:yes: ......
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18202&d=1129847455
Anyone ever done an aftermarket frame for one of those Bill? Edit,whoops a warning coming my way.........me bad.
Kickaha
19th August 2013, 19:59
Havent seen one of those for years,no idea why but i kinda like em,got any pics?
Nah we had two stockers and a hardtail chopper at the flat (none of them mine)
T.W.R
19th August 2013, 20:00
Anyone ever done an aftermarket frame for one of those Bill? Edit,whoops a warning coming my way.........me bad.
???? buggered if I know, that's a stock frame modified
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 20:04
Ive read no reviews of it but i took a punt on a rear damper unit made by these guys for the S and have been well surprised with how well its worked be it having a laugh on my own or the bike packed up with gear and the Mrs...http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hagon-shocks.co.uk%2Fcatalog%2Fpartdetail.aspx%3Fpartno% 3DM61099&ei=C84RUqy_OsuUiQeJqIH4DA&usg=AFQjCNGGqp4p3E6IEfXZmJRGLUkPq92Y8A&bvm=bv.50768961,d.aGcDoesnt come with an Ohlins sticker but then i dont give a fuck.
Thanks for that. Would be about $600ish plus gst. Not a bad option at all. Do have ideas towards another shock from another model.
Drew
19th August 2013, 20:11
Im looking for a decent shock that dont cost more than the bike. Done the fork and its great, back is a bit soggy.
Short pipe makes it scream though. :eek:
Depends what you want to spend. Mr Taylor can turn an average shock into a good one, and for the money ya can't do much better. It's just a matter of having something to start from. At least you've got loads of space now that the pipes aren't here.
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 20:15
Depends what you want to spend. Mr Taylor can turn an average shock into a good one, and for the money ya can't do much better. It's just a matter of having something to start from. At least you've got loads of space now that the pipes aren't here.
Ive looked at an R1 shock more than once and wondered. Piggy back would punch through the rectifier so i would probably be best to move it.
98tls
19th August 2013, 20:17
Depends what you want to spend. Mr Taylor can turn an average shock into a good one, and for the money ya can't do much better. It's just a matter of having something to start from. At least you've got loads of space now that the pipes aren't here.
Actually thats a good point Drew,betting he can do it for far less than even the price of a cheaqper unit like the Hagon.Must say i was well impressed with the Hagon damper though,i bought one of the 1st to be sent overseas and a week or so after i fitted it i got a phone call from this dude Peter Leech who worked for Hagon in England asking what i thought,nice bloke.
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 20:22
Actually thats a good point Drew,betting he can do it for far less than even the price of a cheaqper unit like the Hagon.Must say i was well impressed with the Hagon damper though,i bought one of the 1st to be sent overseas and a week or so after i fitted it i got a phone call from this dude Peter Leech who worked for Hagon in England asking what i thought,nice bloke.
Hornet one is not rebuildable they say although i have read of it being done in the US with having a new piston kit fitted. I think they put on an Ohlins remote as well.
98tls
19th August 2013, 20:24
Hornet one is not rebuildable they say although i have read of it being done in the US with having a new piston kit fitted. I think they put on an Ohlins remote as well.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brooksuspension.co.uk%2Fhonda-cb900f-hornet-shock-absorber-refurb-rebuild-service.html&ei=EdYRUuuTNsbZigfIt4H4DQ&usg=AFQjCNF1TwUypVJf_bffwGe3ecljGz0r7g&bvm=bv.50768961,d.aGcIf they can do it Mr Taylor will do it with his eyes closed.
Drew
19th August 2013, 20:24
Ive looked at an R1 shock more than once and wondered. Piggy back would punch through the rectifier so i would probably be best to move it.It'd need a serious re spec, since it's from a bike that has linkages to effect the rising rate. So it'll be sprung way wrong, but could be a not bad starting point.
I've got a pretty decent shock from the RF, which is the same as a GSXR1100 item.
Rebuild-able, adjustable, and has a remote res (for not needing to move reg/rec). Cheap to a good home if ya wanna hit up the good Dr to see if it's a viable option.
mossy1200
19th August 2013, 20:28
Thanks for that. Would be about $600ish plus gst. Not a bad option at all. Do have ideas towards another shock from another model.
http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/Hagon/Hagon-Monoshock.html?ID=190
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 20:36
It'd need a serious re spec, since it's from a bike that has linkages to effect the rising rate. So it'll be sprung way wrong, but could be a not bad starting point.
I've got a pretty decent shock from the RF, which is the same as a GSXR1100 item.
Rebuild-able, adjustable, and has a remote res (for not needing to move reg/rec). Cheap to a good home if ya wanna hit up the good Dr to see if it's a viable option.
Cheers. Yes I realize valving would be out. Ive looked at GSXR but the bottom is clevis and the Hornet is an eye. Need about 290mm long.
Ive got an idea on spring rate from US guys that track them. I would go a little lower to make up for our roads. Some guys over there are using CBR600 F3 shocks and just fitting them. They seem to think they work ok but im not so sure.
There is a big spring sitting in my shed which may end up on the stock shock for a bit.
Thanks for the offer though.
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 20:50
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brooksuspension.co.uk%2Fhonda-cb900f-hornet-shock-absorber-refurb-rebuild-service.html&ei=EdYRUuuTNsbZigfIt4H4DQ&usg=AFQjCNF1TwUypVJf_bffwGe3ecljGz0r7g&bvm=bv.50768961,d.aGcIf they can do it Mr Taylor will do it with his eyes closed.
Nice find. Cheers.
Madness
19th August 2013, 20:57
Do you think you faggots could keep the Hornet suspension discussion out of the Hyperbike Ownership thread if you tried really, really hard?
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 21:03
Do you think you faggots could keep the Hornet suspension discussion out of the Hyperbike Ownership thread if you tried really, really hard?
:oi-grr::lol:
Madness
19th August 2013, 21:08
:oi-grr::lol:
A repost (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151930-The-inspiration-thread?p=1130405391#post1130405391)from September last year is all you've got huh?
:facepalm:
98tls
19th August 2013, 21:08
Do you think you faggots could keep the owning of Hyperbikes out of the Hornet suspension discussion thread if you tried really, really hard?
Absolutely.About time someone said it.
nzspokes
19th August 2013, 21:10
Absolutely.About time someone said it.
Big Dave started it.
And I still like the VFR1200.
Madness
19th August 2013, 21:11
And I still like the VFR1200.
I still think you're a Homo.
Big Dave
19th August 2013, 21:22
Do you think you faggots could keep the Hornet suspension discussion out of the Hyperbike Ownership thread if you tried really, really hard?
No. That would indicate I gave a fuck.
98tls
19th August 2013, 21:23
I still think you're a Homo.
You going to propose then ?
Madness
19th August 2013, 21:24
You going to propose then ?
Propose he fucks off to the NASS thread? Sure!
AllanB
19th August 2013, 22:33
Do you think you faggots could keep the Hornet suspension discussion out of the Hyperbike Ownership thread if you tried really, really hard?
Awww but I never got to talk about the Ohlins RT sorted out for me for the rear or the springs for the front ...........
Rides very 'hyper' now!!!!!
Drew
20th August 2013, 06:10
Do you think you faggots could keep the Hornet suspension discussion out of the Hyperbike Ownership thread if you tried really, really hard?You getting jealous that we're not talking about your bike?
We're discussing how to turn a Ho'net into a Hyperbike.
Madness
20th August 2013, 07:31
We're discussing how to turn a Ho'net into a Hyperbike.
Wipe your chin Drew, it has shit on it.
Drew
20th August 2013, 07:59
Wipe your chin Drew, it has shit on it.
Well if your mother could control herself....
Madness
20th August 2013, 08:23
Well if your mother could control herself....
Incontinence is pretty common after death.
The Reibz
20th August 2013, 09:08
Some of you need to turn those frowns upside down. Quite a bit of hate in here now haha.
Running out of gas for my welder and have been busy doing jobs for others so my turbo fabrication is on the back bench while I wait for parts and save up more funds. I'm thinking of going the Water injection route for intercooling, anyone got experience with it? Need to know how big a tank to weld up to keep the bike nice and cool when at full throttle.
unstuck
20th August 2013, 09:14
Some of you need to turn those frowns upside down. Quite a bit of hate in here now haha.
Running out of gas for my welder and have been busy doing jobs for others so my turbo fabrication is on the back bench while I wait for parts and save up more funds. I'm thinking of going the Water injection route for intercooling, anyone got experience with it? Need to know how big a tank to weld up to keep the bike nice and cool when at full throttle.
:killingme:killingme This is KB cunt, you can feel the love oozing out of every thread.:2thumbsup
imdying
20th August 2013, 12:19
I'm thinking of going the Water injection route for intercooling, anyone got experience with it? Need to know how big a tank to weld up to keep the bike nice and cool when at full throttle.Do you want WI, or do you mean a water/air intercooler for packaging reasons?
Crasherfromwayback
20th August 2013, 12:51
Water/methanol injection for even more power! Yeah Boi!
The Reibz
20th August 2013, 14:02
Was talking about about water injection, Liquid to Air intercooling is awesome but I don't plan on running ultra long pulls at 400hp or more so its a little bit of overkill. 300hp would probably be the highest I would go on a non extended streetbike.
Water Injection sounds like it would meet my needs perfectly, just wondering on if anyone else in here had experiences with it.
Still a while off actually installing anything into the bike, still planning everything out.
Debating on weather or not its a better idea to save a bit more coin and get pistons/rods/spacer/arp studs just to give the engine a bit of extra insurance
Crasherfromwayback
20th August 2013, 15:03
Was talking about about water injection,
Toward the end of my TC ownership I was running a very crude water/methanol system.
Drew
20th August 2013, 18:07
Was talking about about water injection, Liquid to Air intercooling is awesome but I don't plan on running ultra long pulls at 400hp or more so its a little bit of overkill. 300hp would probably be the highest I would go on a non extended streetbike.
Water Injection sounds like it would meet my needs perfectly, just wondering on if anyone else in here had experiences with it.
Still a while off actually installing anything into the bike, still planning everything out.
Debating on weather or not its a better idea to save a bit more coin and get pistons/rods/spacer/arp studs just to give the engine a bit of extra insurance
Is 2006 generation 1, or 2 Hyabusa?
Some might remember "quadzilla", a busa powered quad that entered the 'race to the sky' a few times.
Anyhoo, the thing ate gearboxes. No shit, like every other run kinda gearbox meals. They had to keep lowering the boost till it would complete runs, and then try and set their times.
unstuck
20th August 2013, 18:22
Is 2006 generation 1, or 2 Hyabusa?
Some might remember "quadzilla", a busa powered quad that entered the 'race to the sky' a few times.
Anyhoo, the thing ate gearboxes. No shit, like every other run kinda gearbox meals. They had to keep lowering the boost till it would complete runs, and then try and set their times.
Was cool to watch though, and sounded awesome tapped out.:Punk::Punk:
The Reibz
20th August 2013, 19:27
Is 2006 generation 1, or 2 Hyabusa?
Some might remember "quadzilla", a busa powered quad that entered the 'race to the sky' a few times.
Anyhoo, the thing ate gearboxes. No shit, like every other run kinda gearbox meals. They had to keep lowering the boost till it would complete runs, and then try and set their times.
Its a GEN1.
Yeah ape does a heavy duty output shaft which is apparently the first thing to strip. Alot of guys undercut their transmissions too. Thats big $$$ though
Drew
20th August 2013, 19:45
Alot of guys undercut their transmissions too. Thats big $$$ though
Cost me $150 for two gears to be undercut.
It's all who you know, I think about $500-700 was what it cost to get a ZX6rr whole gearbox undeercut.
It's all about who you know, and the guy I know spark erodes to save the hardening of the gears. Grinding is not the path to take.
Kickaha
20th August 2013, 20:00
Anyhoo, the thing ate gearboxes. No shit, like every other run kinda gearbox meals. They had to keep lowering the boost till it would complete runs, and then try and set their times.
And chains and tyres, the reason they were trying to run it so high was to win the event outright
Friday night, Ferry road in the dark doing runs down the street and coming in with the discs glowing red:lol:
The Reibz
20th August 2013, 20:35
Cost me $150 for two gears to be undercut.
It's all who you know, I think about $500-700 was what it cost to get a ZX6rr whole gearbox undeercut.
It's all about who you know, and the guy I know spark erodes to save the hardening of the gears. Grinding is not the path to take.
Thats pretty good. It probably wouldn't cost that much after you strip the engine and box and deliver the parts yourself. All the busa info im getting is comming from the states, where hardly any cunt knows how to turn a spanner and prefers to pay insane amounts to have others do it for him. Pretty sure most hayabusa powered cars spit clutches like crazy and then the transmission. I even came across a photo where the output shaft had stripped out the inside of the front sprocket. INSANE
mossy1200
20th August 2013, 22:08
420kph zx14r over 700hp
BMWST?
20th August 2013, 22:17
420kph zx14r over 700hp
i am simply amazed at that
Ender EnZed
20th August 2013, 22:18
420kph zx14r over 700hp
Doesn't look very comfortable.
AllanB
20th August 2013, 22:22
Look at the rear axle adjustment ...........
mossy1200
20th August 2013, 22:24
Look at the rear axle adjustment ...........
Allows for some major sprocket size changes with that much adjustment.
Drew
21st August 2013, 06:21
Look at the size of the bloody turbo! Bet it doesn't spool back up too quick if you bog a start.
The Reibz
21st August 2013, 07:59
GT45? Pretty big turbo.
Been looking at a adjustable swingarm like that. For a round 250 US you can get a set of bolt on extensions that can extend it to 8 over. I would give this thing a blat. Looks like you might want to wrap some heat shielding around that right arm though. That dump pipe is mighty close
imdying
21st August 2013, 11:16
What a fucking retarded example of a motorcycle. Where can I get one :D
onearmedbandit
21st August 2013, 12:24
No. That would indicate I gave a fuck.
That's funny, considering how much of a fuck you have given when it's one of your threads taken off topic...
Stylo
21st August 2013, 18:26
That's funny, considering how much of a fuck you have given when it's one of your threads taken off topic...
My thoughts too mate ... spot on
nzspokes
21st August 2013, 18:28
My thoughts too mate ...
So can we talk about Hornet suspension again? :laugh:
AllanB
21st August 2013, 21:00
So can we talk about Hornet suspension again? :laugh:
Reckon ............ a call to RT makes a huge difference! Hmm maybe some of em thar gold valves would be the biz too ......... help me hunt down Busas!
nzspokes
21st August 2013, 21:08
Hmm maybe some of em thar gold valves would be the biz too ......... help me hunt down Busas!
Nah, drill out ya stock valves. :laugh:
Go getto.:niceone:
98tls
21st August 2013, 21:29
So can we talk about Hornet suspension again? :laugh:
Cant you fit some late model Gixxer forks graft on a Trumpet sssa and run a Ducati shock...solved.
nzspokes
21st August 2013, 21:33
Cant you fit some late model Gixxer forks graft on a Trumpet sssa and run a Ducati shock...solved.
Forks is a yes. Dont know about the rest.
98tls
21st August 2013, 21:34
Forks is a yes. Dont know about the rest.
If it can be done on a TL then it can on yours.Seems to work fine...http://youtu.be/3zS04hq_jAk
AllanB
21st August 2013, 23:03
See pictures of a VFR800 single sided swingarm and wheel grafted onto a 900 Hornet ........
Drew
22nd August 2013, 06:17
See pictures of a VFR800 single sided swingarm and wheel grafted onto a 900 Hornet ........Just trade the thing on a Predator if you want to go that extreem. Save yourself some coin and headache.
AllanB
22nd August 2013, 07:06
Just trade the thing on a Predator if you want to go that extreem. Save yourself some coin and headache.
Where's the fun in that? Hmmmm a Predator (stupid name) front end could be the biz ............
There is a guy down South who has probably spent so much on a TL that he could have a Ducati Panigale. Bet he'd rather have the TL though.
nzspokes
22nd August 2013, 08:33
Just trade the thing on a Predator if you want to go that extreem. Save yourself some coin and headache.
Apparently its not that hard. Predator front and back ends are almost bolt on.
The Reibz
22nd August 2013, 08:36
Reckon ............ a call to RT makes a huge difference! Hmm maybe some of em thar gold valves would be the biz too ......... help me hunt down Busas!
You would need more than gold valves to chase down this busa...
Drew
22nd August 2013, 09:03
Apparently its not that hard. Predator front and back ends are almost bolt on.
It seems like a lot of work, to just end up with a slow predator.
nzspokes
22nd August 2013, 09:29
It seems like a lot of work, to just end up with a slow predator.
Well yes. It would be easy to get trapped into spending to much money on a cheap bike. According to MCN the Hornet has a quicker 1/4 mile time than a Predator. I guess thats due to the Hornet being lighter.
But thats why I wont put a $1500 rear shock in.
Drew
22nd August 2013, 11:35
Well yes. It would be easy to get trapped into spending to much money on a cheap bike. According to MCN the Hornet has a quicker 1/4 mile time than a Predator. I guess thats due to the Hornet being lighter.
But thats why I wont put a $1500 rear shock in.I imagine it could be greatly improved for as little as $500. Which would transform the bike.
They have cartridge forks already, so revalving those would have a similar effect.
nzspokes
22nd August 2013, 11:49
I imagine it could be greatly improved for as little as $500. Which would transform the bike.
They have cartridge forks already, so revalving those would have a similar effect.
Well I have ideas of moving the rear shock mount back on the swing arm to lower forces on the rear shock. And run a longer shock like one from the R1. And cutting up a swing arm from another bike (like an R1) to get the bracing off it and weld it to a Hornet swing arm. All this along with bracing the front of the frame may help the handling a lot.
Or it all could be the dumbest idea ever. :brick: Which makes it more appealing.
The Reibz
22nd August 2013, 11:55
Gah, looks like I have been rostered down for work outside of Auckland for the weekend of the Cliffhanger sprints.
Oh well next year, hopefully with a turbo bike too. Time to start saving for those pistons and rods :)
AllanB
22nd August 2013, 22:00
$200 worth of Ohlins front springs and fresh oil make a huge difference to the Hornets front end. RT made me up a Ohlins rear shock for significantly less than that figure you mentioned for the rear. It needed it after I put in the front springs as the front improved so much that it showed how poor the rear was!
Now I reckon I can adapt one of those VTR1000 supercharge kits ............
Busa front ends are often very cheap on ebay ..............
nzspokes
23rd August 2013, 06:03
$200 worth of Ohlins front springs and fresh oil make a huge difference to the Hornets front end. RT made me up a Ohlins rear shock for significantly less than that figure you mentioned for the rear. It needed it after I put in the front springs as the front improved so much that it showed how poor the rear was!
Now I reckon I can adapt one of those VTR1000 supercharge kits ............
Busa front ends are often very cheap on ebay ..............
Ive done the front, its fine now. But yes that has highlighted the issues at the back. Ive got a 1000lb spring to chuck in the back over the weekend. Should be a giggle.
The Reibz
23rd August 2013, 10:24
Put a pipercross filter in my bike yesterday. Old filter was filthy. Plenty of bugs in it too.
Very slight difference when accelerating away from the line but nothing to be that impressed about. Haven't tested the top end yet, maybe sometime on saturday night after the cops go home.
roogazza
23rd August 2013, 10:30
Ive done the front, its fine now. But yes that has highlighted the issues at the back. Ive got a 1000lb spring to chuck in the back over the weekend. Should be a giggle.
You'll get a huge laugh out of a 1000lb spring !
98tls
23rd August 2013, 17:15
Put a pipercross filter in my bike yesterday. Old filter was filthy. Plenty of bugs in it too.
Very slight difference when accelerating away from the line but nothing to be that impressed about. Haven't tested the top end yet, maybe sometime on saturday night after the cops go home.
Have been using Pipercross for awhile,to be honest ive noticed no difference than a stock filter but did play about with a Yosh box at the same time.
98tls
23rd August 2013, 17:16
Gah, looks like I have been rostered down for work outside of Auckland for the weekend of the Cliffhanger sprints.
Oh well next year, hopefully with a turbo bike too. Time to start saving for those pistons and rods :)
Bugger,nevermind as you say you will be good to go next year.
nzspokes
23rd August 2013, 20:43
You'll get a huge laugh out of a 1000lb spring !
Well could do if the spring compressor slips and the spring fucks off.
mossy1200
24th August 2013, 09:53
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-609964706.htm
AllanB
24th August 2013, 19:11
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-609964706.htm
Looks stock too - a nice sleeper!
mossy1200
24th August 2013, 19:17
Looks stock too - a nice sleeper!
Whats odd is that if you built that and lived in Wellington why wouldn't you ride it at the cliffhanger sprints event and get that 340clicks on record. Why else would you build a bike at claimed 400hp? Also claims fastest bike in NZ. Idd want the NZ land speed bike record to back that statement up.
Madness
24th August 2013, 20:18
Whats odd is that if you built that and lived in Wellington why wouldn't you ride it at the cliffhanger sprints event and get that 340clicks on record. Why else would you build a bike at claimed 400hp? Also claims fastest bike in NZ. Idd want the NZ land speed bike record to back that statement up.
He did though, bottom of the page. http://cliffhanger.org.nz/sprints/results/2011_results.html
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1157614_634401526590523_1338571692_n.jpg
mossy1200
24th August 2013, 22:48
He did though, bottom of the page. http://cliffhanger.org.nz/sprints/results/2011_results.html
That's odd everyone elses times are 1.2sec etc so the event wasn't timed through 402metres but a shorter distance and his is gps result.
Is that why its not the record holder?
The Reibz
25th August 2013, 10:49
That bike has been on trademe for around 6 months. He originally wanted 25k for it. 17k is more than reasonable in my opinion considering the amount to work which has been put into the project.
I think with that engine build it is capable of alot more though. Hes only running a .010 spacer which is quite close to stock compression, most pistons recommend a .080. The engine is bulletproof, he could easily run 20psi with the right compression settings. That thing is an absolute weapon
Crasherfromwayback
25th August 2013, 14:39
Looks stock too - a nice sleeper!
Whats odd is that if you built that and lived in Wellington why wouldn't you ride it at the cliffhanger sprints event and get that 340clicks on record. Why else would you build a bike at claimed 400hp? Also claims fastest bike in NZ. Idd want the NZ land speed bike record to back that statement up.
If it's the one I'm thinking of (and there can't be too may around)...it fucked our dyno!
The Reibz
25th August 2013, 16:11
Lol, I wish he had his dyno charts up on his auction. Would like to see a actual figure, 400 just sounds to mainstream...
AllanB
25th August 2013, 19:32
I run my speed trials on a different system in the car.
It is timed by '0 to wife goes shitty'. I am unsure if I hold the NZ record.
Kornholio
26th August 2013, 02:12
If it's the one I'm thinking of (and there can't be too may around)...it fucked our dyno!
Hell, you might need the dyno fom the Fieldays :/
I run my speed trials on a different system in the car.
It is timed by '0 to wife goes shitty'. I am unsure if I hold the NZ record.
It may depend on which pocket on her handbag that your balls are situated in.... I think you are fucked either way :)
onearmedbandit
26th August 2013, 11:58
You turbo busa guys are certifiable.
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The Reibz
26th August 2013, 15:14
Seems like alot of people associate turbo bikes with the Ghost-Rider. Probably because he was one of the originals to post up footage of himself doing 200mph wheelies and shit. The guy has stones, no doubt but, there is no way I could ever ride the way he does. Just looking at that video is scary enough lol
Drew
26th August 2013, 16:22
Seems like alot of people associate turbo bikes with the Ghost-Rider. Probably because he was one of the originals to post up footage of himself doing 200mph wheelies and shit. The guy has stones, no doubt but, there is no way I could ever ride the way he does. Just looking at that video is scary enough lol
The guy is a fucking cunt, on a motorcycle.
Lots of people believe he will end up as a red smear on the Autobahn or similar, I dunno about that, but he is easy to find so I don't know how he isn't in jail.
roogazza
26th August 2013, 19:02
The guy is a fucking cunt, on a motorcycle.
Lots of people believe he will end up as a red smear on the Autobahn or similar, I dunno about that, but he is easy to find so I don't know how he isn't in jail.
Isn't he dead ? thought I heard that years ago.
mossy1200
26th August 2013, 19:40
I have removed the anchor from the rear of mine for the cliffhanger sprints. Maybe ill get into the 200hundy club. Hoping it will be close if it doesn't.
Drew
26th August 2013, 19:47
Isn't he dead ? thought I heard that years ago.
Still running his bike shop in Germany (might have been neighboring country come to think of it), last I read anything about him.
Several rumors were abound of his demise, right back when the vids first came out.
caspernz
26th August 2013, 19:58
Isn't he dead ? thought I heard that years ago.
Riding the way he does...just a matter of time me thinks :innocent::facepalm:
\m/
26th August 2013, 20:48
If I'm not mistaken there was a copycat who had a fatal crash, AFAIK Patrik Furstenhoff (the real Ghost Rider) is still alive.
The Reibz
27th August 2013, 09:29
I thought Ghostrider 6.66 had been released already? I got 1 - 5 a couple of years ago off the piratebay. Possibly not the best riding video to watch if your still learning to ride lol.
Good luck at the cliffhanger mossy. Hopefully you can break 200mph.
Hopefully I will make it down next year, with a extra 150hp or so strapped to the bike...
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 16:14
Mine is ready for cliffhanger sprints. Made some mirror cap off covers. Im not sure what difference the removal would make to the flying speeds if any at all.:kick:
Im wondering if I should put 50 pounds in the tires???
Drew
31st August 2013, 16:40
Im wondering if I should put 50 pounds in the tires???You'd be a braver man than me. I like a bit of tyre spin for fun...Tyre spin at 250+kph=not fun!
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 16:44
You'd be a braver man than me. I like a bit of tyre spin for fun...Tyre spin at 250+kph=not fun!
So 49pounds would be better?:crazy:
Im running 40 on the road now on the bridg20s which isn't normal for me as I always ran high 20s low 30s on other tyres in the past.
BMWST?
31st August 2013, 16:58
Mine is ready for cliffhanger sprints. Made some mirror cap off covers. Im not sure what difference the removal would make to the flying speeds if any at all.:kick:
Im wondering if I should put 50 pounds in the tires???
what is the max pressure recomended by bridgestone?
Drew
31st August 2013, 17:01
So 49pounds would be better?:crazy:
Im running 40 on the road now on the bridg20s which isn't normal for me as I always ran high 20s low 30s on other tyres in the past.36 34 is what I run in the S20s. Found it gives the best performance and I've done over 5000ks on them with them still looking really good.
I've always run around 24-26psi in rear tyres, and 30 in the front. But race rubber responds to that differently than sports touring.
Stick with 40 psi for the speed runs I reckon.
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 17:26
what is the max pressure recomended by bridgestone?
42psi is the recommended pressure on the tire. Its the oem tires though and I think they have higher speed rating but less grip than the shelf items needing a factory rating of 200mph for some countries.
Drew
31st August 2013, 17:37
42psi is the recommended pressure on the tire. Its the oem tires though and I think they have higher speed rating but less grip than the shelf items needing a factory rating of 200mph for some countries.Oh right, I understand that the OE S20s are a different tyre to the off the shelf items. Even the importer can't find out what those differences are though.
BMWST?
31st August 2013, 18:02
the speed rating wont be a problem...whilst you want good quality tyres its not as if you are gonna sit on your top speed for more than a few seconds
Kickaha
31st August 2013, 18:13
42psi is the recommended pressure on the tire.
If it is the pressure marked on the tyre that is normally for the maximum speed and maximum load
Drew
31st August 2013, 18:39
If it is the pressure marked on the tyre that is normally for the maximum speed and maximum loadI certtainly hope Steve is er...cleverer than mistaking the max loaded pressure rating for the suggested.
Suggested coming from the owners manual and all that.
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 18:56
I certtainly hope Steve is er...cleverer than mistaking the max loaded pressure rating for the suggested.
Suggested coming from the owners manual and all that.
Im not very clever
nzspokes
31st August 2013, 19:04
Mine is ready for cliffhanger sprints. Made some mirror cap off covers. Im not sure what difference the removal would make to the flying speeds if any at all.:kick:
Im wondering if I should put 50 pounds in the tires???
I would remove the fork reflectors.
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 19:11
I would remove the fork reflectors.
I filed the leading edge of them so they cut air better. Safety first. I wouldn't want to get T boned during the flying.
nzspokes
31st August 2013, 19:14
I filed the leading edge of them so they cut air better. Safety first. I wouldn't want to get T boned during the flying.
Fair call. Leave them a little lose so they spin. Would look cool at 300.
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 19:24
Fair call. Leave them a little lose so they spin. Would look cool at 300.
Led bling would increase the look?
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 21:49
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I only wanted to see what it was in NZ dollars. Turns out it was a lot and its come outa paypal.
My wife is boiling mad at me.
Wonder if it will arrive before sprints. Also wonder if ill be able to go now.
Kickaha
31st August 2013, 21:51
My wife is boiling mad at me.
How is that different from any other day of the week?
EJK
31st August 2013, 21:55
Dear all hyperbike owners,
I have a question. How much did it cost you guys for the 24k service? You know the big one where they rip off the top end and mangle with it.
nzspokes
31st August 2013, 21:57
Dear all hyperbike owners,
I have a question. How much did it cost you guys for the 24k service? You know the big one where they rip off the top end and mangle with it.
If you have an 07 ZX10 and its only just hit 24k you need to ride more.
Thats all I got.
EJK
31st August 2013, 22:11
If you have an 07 ZX10 and its only just hit 24k you need to ride more.
Thats all I got.
Actually it's about to have it's 3rd 24k service @ 72,000kms :msn-wink:
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 22:15
Dear all hyperbike owners,
I have a question. How much did it cost you guys for the 24k service? You know the big one where they rip off the top end and mangle with it.
im only at 1700km. ill have a different bike before 24k
mossy1200
31st August 2013, 22:17
How is that different from any other day of the week?
Spending was ok when we had money but now we have a house so its beyond angry seks and into no seks stages.
nzspokes
31st August 2013, 22:34
Actually it's about to have it's 3rd 24k service @ 72,000kms :msn-wink:
As you were then.
The Reibz
1st September 2013, 15:06
Dear all hyperbike owners,
I have a question. How much did it cost you guys for the 24k service? You know the big one where they rip off the top end and mangle with it.
I have never taken any of my vehicles to a so called service center to be seen by a so called mechanic. If you want to take the top end off, do it yourself and take it to a head shop. It won't cost you as much and they have alot more knowledge than your local indian/asian with a spanner. Im going to be rebuilding mine at 55km, with low compression pistons and a stronger top end
nzspokes
1st September 2013, 15:29
I have never taken any of my vehicles to a so called service center to be seen by a so called mechanic. If you want to take the top end off, do it yourself and take it to a head shop. It won't cost you as much and they have alot more knowledge than your local indian/asian with a spanner. Im going to be rebuilding mine at 55km, with low compression pistons and a stronger top end
Think he means a valve check.
Ender EnZed
1st September 2013, 17:42
Dear all hyperbike owners,
I have a question. How much did it cost you guys for the 24k service? You know the big one where they rip off the top end and mangle with it.
Presumably about the same as any other modern, faired 4 cylinder bike.
mossy1200
1st September 2013, 18:22
Looks like the zx 2014 models are going to have a few mods to this years.
Erelyes
1st September 2013, 18:35
Looks like the zx 2014 models are going to have a few mods to this years.
Order placed
EJK
1st September 2013, 18:37
I'm extremely curious to know the fuel consumption rate.
nzspokes
1st September 2013, 18:55
I'm extremely curious to know the fuel consumption rate.
4 custard slices per 100ks.
AllanB
1st September 2013, 19:58
Looks like the zx 2014 models are going to have a few mods to this years.
Skinny tyre are the new rage - less weight, less drag and quicker cornering.
EJK
1st September 2013, 20:02
4 custard slices per 100ks.
Sheesh! That's no good. Have you checked the prices on custard slice recently??? They are going through the roof! :wacko:
The Reibz
2nd September 2013, 14:48
im only at 1700km. ill have a different bike before 24k
Barely run it in mossy. Done about 12k on mine since January, love it and cant see myself trading in anytime soon. Only taken it off the clock once when I was with another busa with a detector/jammer. Everything under 200kph down a straight seems slowish now. I remember when I first got it anything over 160kph seemed like warp speed. Hopefully I can get another tour in sometime over summer, the open road is where I have had the most fun on it.
caspernz
2nd September 2013, 18:29
im only at 1700km. ill have a different bike before 24k
Ouch! Mine has run a little over 2500 clicks in the first five weeks...am I doing something wrong? :blink::innocent:
mossy1200
2nd September 2013, 18:34
Barely run it in mossy. Done about 12k on mine since January, love it and cant see myself trading in anytime soon. Only taken it off the clock once when I was with another busa with a detector/jammer. Everything under 200kph down a straight seems slowish now. I remember when I first got it anything over 160kph seemed like warp speed. Hopefully I can get another tour in sometime over summer, the open road is where I have had the most fun on it.
I have been house hunting followed by renovating plus on call every forth week this year and use work car as commute. The sad thing is I did the first 1k of the 1700 in the first week.
Im like a part time motorcyclist who only comes out on fine weekends. Might get me a hardly.
Drew
2nd September 2013, 18:37
Im like a part time motorcyclist who only comes out on fine weekends. Might get me a hardly.No shame in it man. I'm probably not even classed as a motorcyclist at all these days.
You'd look proper cool on a wide glide...If ya grow the hair back of course.
mossy1200
2nd September 2013, 18:42
No shame in it man. I'm probably not even classed as a motorcyclist at all these days.
You'd look proper cool on a wide glide...If ya grow the hair back of course.
Its almost all back again lol. Ill go for my yearly trim soon.
I have been very busy this year. I managed the first decent ride in months not last weekend but the one before. I was on call again last week.
Wing mirrors removed and pcV on the way for the sprints though. The pcV might not get here in time as its coming with a brocks race map and customs will slow it down I would say.
Race trim and no trailer.
The Reibz
2nd September 2013, 20:06
Nice looking bike. I must say it has grown on me. A guy at work has a metallic green one, I prefer that color.
He still won't drag me off from the lights though, getting sick of trying to pressure him too.
Drag Wars this weekend. Hopefully can get my launch sorted
Drew
3rd September 2013, 07:00
Drag Wars this weekend. Hopefully can get my launch sortedOnly advice I ever got, "Don't let the revs drop, nomatter what"! If the wheel starts to lift, keep it pinned and slip the clutch a bit more. Drop the revs and the wheel will come up and go down repeatedly for the first 50 meters.
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 19:17
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98tls
7th September 2013, 19:23
Its almost all back again lol. Ill go for my yearly trim soon.
I have been very busy this year. I managed the first decent ride in months not last weekend but the one before. I was on call again last week.
Wing mirrors removed and pcV on the way for the sprints though. The pcV might not get here in time as its coming with a brocks race map and customs will slow it down I would say.
Race trim and no trailer.
Very nice looking bike m,no offence to Busa owners but Suzuki needs to take note.
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 19:30
Very nice looking bike m,no offence to Busa owners but Suzuki needs to take note.
I don't mind the busa look other than the tail end. Theres not the best colour options for them though. Maybe the black or white ones are ok but some years production didn't do a lot for me.
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 19:33
Only advice I ever got, "Don't let the revs drop, nomatter what"! If the wheel starts to lift, keep it pinned and slip the clutch a bit more. Drop the revs and the wheel will come up and go down repeatedly for the first 50 meters.
Mine still had the front wheel up at the 300 meter mark in third but never more than 100mm. I didn't want it to come down as I was having to much fun but ran outa ponies for 4th to keep it there at a low height.
98tls
7th September 2013, 19:36
I don't mind the busa look other than the tail end. Theres not the best colour options for them though. Maybe the black or white ones are ok but some years production didn't do a lot for me.
Thing is they need to be rid of the rounded styling both at the back and front,that front guard was/is will always be hideous.
The Reibz
7th September 2013, 20:26
The busa is a funny bike. The look does grow on you. Personally I prefer the GenI shape to the GenII. Others are the opposite.
Waiting for a letter from customs atm. Have the fuel system parts for the turbo build at the border. Stay tuned...
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 20:39
The busa is a funny bike. The look does grow on you. Personally I prefer the GenI shape to the GenII. Others are the opposite.
Waiting for a letter from customs atm. Have the fuel system parts for the turbo build at the border. Stay tuned...
Its faster to call them and quote the tracking number unless your hoping they wont bill you for gst. I waited once and only when I called did I get it sorted.
im not ever going to like the look of a busa rear seat. TL1000rs had a black pillow on the back also.
Kornholio
7th September 2013, 20:41
This is the big fellas 2000 Bus... he bought it painted like that... Nice bike plus he has shed a few kilos and he reckon the bike goes a bit quicker now haha.... But definitely the old shape I like betterer :)
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 20:44
This is a good looking busa.
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 20:49
Look a zx14 kicked a busa so hard that...
Gremlin
7th September 2013, 22:06
Its faster to call them and quote the tracking number unless your hoping they wont bill you for gst. I waited once and only when I called did I get it sorted.
You ringing NZPost? btw, while your package is doing a tour, see if it can find mine. Left New York beginning of August... been touring since :mellow:
mossy1200
7th September 2013, 22:08
You ringing NZPost? btw, while your package is doing a tour, see if it can find mine. Left New York beginning of August... been touring since :mellow:
NZ Post will give you the customs phone number. That's how I got the contact number last time.
The Reibz
7th September 2013, 22:45
Thats the LRG White Busa. The GSXR Tail conversion suits the bike IMO. Yeah I should call customs with the number. No rush for the parts though, still have to fabricate almost everything
The Reibz
13th September 2013, 12:33
http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/1302_sbkp_suzuki_hayabusa_bike_builds/viewall.html
Good article here, worth a bit of a read
jolly_26
17th September 2013, 20:04
Question from a complete noob on this topic: What sort of fuel consumption does a busa or 14 get and how does it compare to that of a litre bike or even a 600?
mossy1200
17th September 2013, 20:18
Question from a complete noob on this topic: What sort of fuel consumption does a busa or 14 get and how does it compare to that of a litre bike or even a 600?
At 100 zx14r is getting 20km per litre.
The average use last 1000km on mine is showing at 15.4k per litre.
Full tank shows fuel range of almost 400km when doing 100 in 6th constant speed.
Ender EnZed
17th September 2013, 20:22
Question from a complete noob on this topic: What sort of fuel consumption does a busa or 14 get and how does it compare to that of a litre bike or even a 600?
My Hayabusa gets about 5.5L/100km (18.2km/L) when it's left in top, doesn't make a lot of difference if you're cruising at 110 or 140. About 6.5 - 7.0 L/100km (15.4 - 14.3 km/L) on back roads using more gears.
Ender EnZed
17th September 2013, 20:27
At 100 zx14r is getting 20kph per litre.
Do you have an instantaneous fuel use read out? What's she drinking at a steady 120/40/60?
Ocean1
17th September 2013, 20:32
Do you have an instantaneous fuel use read out? What's she drinking at a steady 120/40/60?
Dunno about a Busa but I can tell you that the 1125 on full tap reads 25L/100k.
mossy1200
17th September 2013, 21:30
Do you have an instantaneous fuel use read out? What's she drinking at a steady 120/40/60?
100 is 19-22 depending on load etc and hill. Trailer is 19-20
In the flying quarters I spotted 4km per litre at one point
Not sure about speeds 120 etc as I ride with range selected most of the time and I do 100clicks <_<
On fuel usage it shows you as ride, the current usage.
On range it shows you distance left in tank by a 1min calculation of fuel being used against remaining fuel in tank. This seems to change about every min approx. If you coast down a steep hill in 6th with clutch in on a full tank you can get 999km per tank.:bleh:
My last 1000km average was 15.4 includes town, towing, the hill and open road.
The Reibz
17th September 2013, 21:33
Question from a complete noob on this topic: What sort of fuel consumption does a busa or 14 get and how does it compare to that of a litre bike or even a 600?
You do not buy a hyperbike for fuel consumption.
17.5km p/l but im fucken fanging in alot of the time. 6th Gear pulls also use alot of fuel, you can almost watch the needle go down
Ender EnZed
17th September 2013, 23:23
You do not buy a hyperbike for fuel consumption.
Maybe not, but it's hardly going to put anyone off if it does matter to them. 17.5km/L isn't much worse than a carby 250, mine used that much on occasion.
jolly_26
18th September 2013, 08:15
Yeah 5.5L/100km isn't really that bad, my 250 will do about 3.5-4L/100km and given the performance difference that seems pretty damn reasonable. That would make them similar to if not better than many of the litre bikes I believe?
The Reibz
18th September 2013, 08:17
Are you running a Powercommander or a TRE/xTRE in your busa? The TRE increases my consumption, im currently running a bit rich atm. Might be a seasonal change. I will tweak the PCV map for it, seems to be at full throttle at Mid Range RPM. Slightest of lags.
Im looking at making up a ECU cable to hack the factory computer and raise my rev limit and permanently disable all limiters.
Installed my quick turn drag throttle the other day. Hands down one of the best mods I have done so far.
Ender EnZed
18th September 2013, 12:01
Are you running a Powercommander or a TRE/xTRE in your busa? The TRE increases my consumption, im currently running a bit rich atm. Might be a seasonal change. I will tweak the PCV map for it, seems to be at full throttle at Mid Range RPM. Slightest of lags.
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's stock apart from a 4 into 1 with an unbranded pipe.
Im looking at making up a ECU cable to hack the factory computer and raise my rev limit and permanently disable all limiters.
Installed my quick turn drag throttle the other day. Hands down one of the best mods I have done so far.
Can't say I've ever had much trouble with running into limiters myself. How quick is the turn?
Yeah 5.5L/100km isn't really that bad, my 250 will do about 3.5-4L/100km and given the performance difference that seems pretty damn reasonable.
Is that the VTZ250 in your profile? That's pretty good if it is, my '89 VT250 Spada used about 5.
jolly_26
18th September 2013, 14:49
Is that the VTZ250 in your profile? That's pretty good if it is, my '89 VT250 Spada used about 5.
Yup that's the one, sounds like your old 250 needed a carb tune!
mossy1200
18th September 2013, 20:15
PCV with brocks map that I ordered and has entered NZ now and I got the customs bill
$139 to get through.
$369 us part so $540nzd plus $139 taxes is rough. Extra 25% :shit:
The Reibz
18th September 2013, 20:21
The new throttle has about 20% less travel than the old one. You can just snap it down rather than winding up on the grip.
Yeah mossy that is rough mate, was it declared as a auto part or something else?
insane1
19th September 2013, 21:26
Does one of these class as a hyper bike considering it'll top 280kmhr just wondering.
nallac
19th September 2013, 21:37
Does one of these class as a hyper bike considering it'll top 280kmhr just wondering.
HyperUgly?????.
The Reibz
20th September 2013, 08:55
Does one of these class as a hyper bike considering it'll top 280kmhr just wondering.
I think this was debated earlier on in the thread and the general consensus was "Nah Bro"
Yamaha really needs an answer to the busa and zx14 besides the V-MAX. Still see quite a few blackbirds around, was more than a few at the bikers in blue ride last weekend. Only one zx14 and 3 busas.
Brett
26th September 2013, 22:17
Geez, I'm only getting on average 180-200kms per tank from my 2011 1000cc Blade. On a good day.
Ender EnZed
27th September 2013, 03:49
Geez, I'm only getting on average 180-200kms per tank from my 2011 1000cc Blade. On a good day.
How many litres for that distance?
Brett
27th September 2013, 17:51
How many litres for that distance?
16 ltr tank. Will check next docket for exact fuel used.
Stylo
27th September 2013, 19:50
16 ltr tank. Will check next docket for exact fuel used.
If it's any help my Gen 2 'Busa has a 21L tank and best I've done is 340 + kms with the light glowing orange for 80k's before I pulled in for gas, took just over 19 L to fill up ..
McKenzie country.
mossy1200
27th September 2013, 20:11
If it's any help my Gen 2 'Busa has a 21L tank and best I've done is 340 + kms with the light glowing orange for 80k's before I pulled in for gas, took just over 19 L to fill up ..
McKenzie country.
PCV added and afm adjusted to 13 to 1 and mines showing 460km range gen2 zx14. 23km per litre while riding 100odd. 22litre tank
haven't run it long distance since the changes yet to confirm.
BMWST?
28th September 2013, 12:40
PCV added and afm adjusted to 13 to 1 and mines showing 460km range gen2 zx14. 23km per litre while riding 100odd. 22litre tank
haven't run it long distance since the changes yet to confirm.
23??? is that a sorta flash reading or can you hold it on that?I can get flash reading like that quite often in the car,but the average is ussually a lot less 23 i s 66 miles per gallon in the old money..its what i have to come back to to compare different vehicles to make any sense of it!
baffa
28th September 2013, 13:33
Geez, I'm only getting on average 180-200kms per tank from my 2011 1000cc Blade. On a good day.
Thats terrible. I get better than that from about 14.5l of fuel (When the fuel light comes on) from my 07 blade when doing short commutes, and this is with a completely clogged air filter (Only found out last week, joy).
On longer rides it gets 250-300 from the same amount of fuel.
mossy1200
28th September 2013, 17:38
23??? is that a sorta flash reading or can you hold it on that?I can get flash reading like that quite often in the car,but the average is ussually a lot less 23 i s 66 miles per gallon in the old money..its what i have to come back to to compare different vehicles to make any sense of it!
If I have it on the economy reading it does an average over each past 60seconds and displays it.
Eg cruising along motorway 120 for a few minutes reads 23km per litre. flat and smooth holding speed.
On range setting it calculates fuel use over a 4min period to calculate km left inside tank etc.
Running 1/4 mile was doing about 6km per litre.
Average has been 15.6km per litre over the last 1000km with town usage and the hill etc.
raziel1983
28th September 2013, 19:16
Does one of these class as a hyper bike considering it'll top 280kmhr just wondering.
Makes more ponies than the Bird, why not?? :corn:
insane1
29th September 2013, 19:23
Just gotta find a race track long enough to see how quick it really is.
The Reibz
30th September 2013, 07:24
Im getting about 8km/L atm. Been having trouble ever since I changed the filter. Had a look at my fuel table yesterday, mid range throttle is wayyy to rich. Going to reset the PCV back to a zero map and see how it it runs (probably all good)
Gen1 busas didn't have a o2 sensor so im looking at a wideband kit. Pretty expensive but good for finding problem areas in the fuel table and im going to need one eventually for when I go turbo.
Anyone else running a pipercross filter and experiencing richness? im considering going back to the stock filter
Stylo
30th September 2013, 18:53
Im getting about 8km/L atm. Been having trouble ever since I changed the filter. Had a look at my fuel table yesterday, mid range throttle is wayyy to rich. Going to reset the PCV back to a zero map and see how it it runs (probably all good)
Gen1 busas didn't have a o2 sensor so im looking at a wideband kit. Pretty expensive but good for finding problem areas in the fuel table and im going to need one eventually for when I go turbo.
Anyone else running a pipercross filter and experiencing richness? im considering going back to the stock filter
Running a K&N on my Gen 2 and no problems, having said that I haven't noticed any improvements either over the stock filter but sticks and stones with a 'Busa. I'd suggest go back to the stock filter and start again. Nothing to lose.
The Reibz
30th September 2013, 18:57
Yeah I'm going back to it ay. No point in getting it dyno'd to possibly gain 3 or 4hp. Will flick it off on trademe for $60 atleast that way I get something back from it.
Im getting good power with it on the current map but the mid range just isn't street friendly
mossy1200
30th September 2013, 20:42
Running a K&N on my Gen 2 and no problems, having said that I haven't noticed any improvements either over the stock filter but sticks and stones with a 'Busa. I'd suggest go back to the stock filter and start again. Nothing to lose.
The guys dyno tuning generation 2 zx14rs are getting almost 1 extra hp at the top of the rev range and losing 2 hp everywhere else.
Don't think ill change the stock unit until it needs replaced.
The Reibz
1st October 2013, 07:55
Not motorcycle related but interesting none the less. Shows that filters don't really do a hell of alot
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The K&N Panel filter actually makes the car lose power. I will be going back to stock once I get home tonight, might keep the pipercross incase I ever decide to get a dyno tune done. Just paid my rego and now im broke, so I dont see that happening
Ocean1
1st October 2013, 10:10
Not motorcycle related but interesting none the less. Shows that filters don't really do a hell of alot
The K&N Panel filter actually makes the car lose power. I will be going back to stock once I get home tonight, might keep the pipercross incase I ever decide to get a dyno tune done. Just paid my rego and now im broke, so I dont see that happening
I saw a report on a bunch of different "performance" filters for some lateish model Chev. Essentially some of them flowed better than the OE versions but because the engine designers aren't usually complete fuckwits it didn't increase HP to any measureable degree. And the engine life was significantly less. Quite a few of them flowed worse than the OE part and STILL let much larger particles through.
In fact the best performing filter of the lot was also the cheapest and the one most independent mechanics fitted: the AC Delco made OE part.
The Reibz
1st October 2013, 11:06
Yeah I agree man. Eye catching packaging and false promises do seem to work in the motorcycle world as well. Pretty clear that a Air Filter isn't going to give you the 8hp it promises on the box. The oils from them can even clog sensors and fuck them, not cool. Will be checking my ones tonight. It was running fine when I first put it in there, no issues at all but now its got a 1000km on it the fuel consumption is though the roof.
roogazza
6th October 2013, 12:15
http://www.motoroids.com/news/honda-rcv-1000-motogp-replica-unveiling-reported-eicma-2013/
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DEATH_INC.
6th October 2013, 14:51
On a thread about hyperbikes, you guys are discussing fuel economy :facepalm:
300weatherby
6th October 2013, 19:53
On a thread about hyperbikes, you guys are discussing fuel economy :facepalm:
Absofuckinlutely!!!, I couldn't care less how much fuel my Busa uses as long as I can reach the next servo!
Gen1 Busa
-Modified ignition curve in 1,2 and 3
-Disabled limiter in top
-Up 2 on the rear,
It is moderately fast I guess but.......
Not doing anything engine on it, cause the reality is, it runs around in the real world and will allways be a fuckload slower than my Superbike, I'd have time to stop at the top of the straight and roll a ciggie before a ZX14 caught up too, so, which one really IS a "hyperbike"?, a Busa?, a ZX14?, a Blackbird, or a 1 litre Superbike that is faster down the quarter, faster in the turn, faster out, stronger on the brakes, just as much top end as any of the heavy weights .
I would call my Busa a "hyper tourer" that can hang with the 600 mob in the real world tight stuff if you know how to work the thing. If I cared about fuel consumption, I would get a GN250!
roogazza
7th October 2013, 07:13
so, which one really IS a "hyperbike"?, a Busa?, a ZX14?, a Blackbird, or a 1 litre Superbike that is faster down the quarter, faster in the turn, faster out, stronger on the brakes, just as much top end as any of the heavy weights .
Riding my bike Sunday morning after 4 mths off (winter) I thought of the quote from Jay Leno:
"Riding a 1000cc Sports Bike is like having sex with an aerobics instructor."
baffa
10th October 2013, 15:53
Re the Air intake, the biggest improvement people could make on a car was giving the car cool direct air. Putting a pod filter in a hot engine bay is always gonna make you go backwards, besides the cool intake noise. People got the impression that simply changing the filter made a huge improvement, and the filter companies capatilised on it.
Ive actually been recommended to go aftermarket on the CBR though, as apparently the paper filters clog easily.
mossy1200
13th October 2013, 16:23
Installed the woolich gear.
Ordered swinger stand bobbins and a rear stand.
Ordered akra headers to go with the Yoshi pipes. Like the twin pipe look.
Also ordered the woolich bench harness as I don't get net in the garage and the Brocks/Guhl code on my ecu isn't on the known list so breaking it could take 48hrs with ignition on. Easier to have the ability to do that in the house.
Got the pcV installed and fuel economy is improved also. A lot more power after first ride.
Im thinking voodoo rearsets and powercomander quick shift will be next.
The Reibz
13th October 2013, 17:55
Get the quickshifter. Never mind rearsets. Waste of money unless your into the anodised bling shit.
Glad too see you got the woolich harness. I need to get one I think
mossy1200
13th October 2013, 18:38
Get the quickshifter. Never mind rearsets. Waste of money unless your into the anodised bling shit.
Glad too see you got the woolich harness. I need to get one I think
My bike doesn't have a shift rod. The gear lever bolts onto shift shaft. I can do a quick shift with hole and bolt and shaft onto chain cover housing but it doesn't look nice.
Rearsets mean shift shaft and then I can get shift switch shaft to replace it.
The stock pegs on my bike have thick rubber that moves around a bit and my sole gets onto mid pipe when wearing J Rebs also.
mossy1200
14th October 2013, 16:43
Went a bit crazy on the bench tune unit while waiting for the bench harness to arrive. Might add a camera and monitor the garage also.
mossy1200
18th October 2013, 20:25
Voodoo rearsets ordered. Once they arrive ill measure the link arm and order the dynojet quickshift shaft the correct length for them.
Only problem is Amazons expected arrival is December. I think Santa might be their delivery guy.
The Reibz
21st October 2013, 11:49
Good shit mossy. Looks like your build is comming along nicely. Funds have been a nightmare for me atm, so I haven't done alot to mine. Might have to sell my FZR1000 to free up a couple of grand for some new goodies. Will post up some pictures of my mods tonight. Keep em coming...
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