Hyperbike ownership [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 09:51

Just wondering if any other Hayabusa/ZX14/ZX12/Blackbird owners out there are having the same conversations with other riders as I am.

Usually goes something like this.

"Eah bro is that your Hayabusa parked out front"
"Sure is bro"
"Fuck bro, you are one crazy cunt. No way I would want to be riding something that fast, thats straight suicide"

Conversation gets worse as I explain that I'm currently fabricating a turbo setup for it and the sort of gains I am hoping to achieve.

Personally the Busa is the best bike I have ridden. Was dead set keen on getting a R1 when I was first looking at upgrading to a litre+ bike. Wasn't a fan of the Busa but was well aware of the reputation and had seen Ghostrider 1 through to 5, but after 5 mins of test riding I was pretty much sold.

Yeah the top end on it is rediculous and it gets your heart racing everytime, but it is also extremely streetable. Shit as for commuting due to its width and not being able to lanesplit in heavy as traffic with narrow gaps, but I definetly didn't buy a hyperbike to commute 2.5km to work on. As I said to a couple of NASS riders a few weeks ago when they were going on about headlight power outputs, there is only one type of power I care about on my bike... Fucken Horsepower...

And just for the record I am a bit of a crazy cunt.

Chur.

unstuck

31st July 2013, 09:56

And just for the record I am a bit of a cunt.

Chur.

Yep, gotta agree with you there.:whistle::msn-wink:

EJK

31st July 2013, 09:59

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 10:10

Average size. Not to big, not to small. But tiny in comparison to my E-Penis size, which is fuarkkkn massive

Grizzo

31st July 2013, 10:13

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 10:22

Bro does it do good as skids?

Yep and it has escaped from the cops many times

Grubber

31st July 2013, 11:15

Yep and it has escaped from the cops many times

Ahhhh, my hero!:tugger:

Big Dave

31st July 2013, 11:42

That's what you get for parking in front of the Library on pension day.

nallac

31st July 2013, 12:56

How big is your penis?

dude i thought you where getting married.... :lol:

Crasherfromwayback

31st July 2013, 13:29

And just for the record I am a bit of a cunt.

Chur.

Fixed that for ya!:innocent:

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 13:31

Fixed that for ya!:innocent:

Cheers for that pal. I actually prefer it that way

caspernz

31st July 2013, 14:27

Just wondering if any other Hayabusa/ZX14/ZX12/Blackbird owners out there are having the same conversations with other riders as I am.

Nope, I just give 'em a blank stare and remain silent :eek::killingme

haydes55

31st July 2013, 14:31

I have those convos with people about my (not quite 300cc) motard.

Idiots think a bike will kill them.

SMOKEU

31st July 2013, 15:42

Idiots think a bike will kill them.

They probably will, given the fact that they crash their cages with alarming regularity.

unstuck

31st July 2013, 16:36

Fixed that for ya!:innocent:

Thats so last week.:bleh::bleh:

mossy1200

31st July 2013, 16:49

They don't even notice the bike.

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 17:23

Mate thats awesome. Have you taken it to 300 with that thing on the back lol

Ender EnZed

31st July 2013, 18:36

I have had a couple of conversations with litre bike owners who seemed to perceive a Hayabusa as a "step up" in the same way a GBZSXR1000 is a step up from a CGSXZR600. Which is exactly how the manufacturers like to position them, along with whoever came up with the prefix "hyper" to go above "super", but that's not the reality of the situation.

Common features shared among "Hyperbikes" are a totally linear power delivery, comfortable seat, adequate pillion accommodation, relatively upright riding position and a medium weight - more than anything you'll see on a track, less than a Harley. Plus fuckloads of power of course but that's really the only difference between a 'Busa or ZX14 and a VFR800.

All of which is what makes them such great road bikes; comfy all-rounders with enough power that you never run out.

Drew

31st July 2013, 19:02

Yep, all of the hyperbikes are slower than their manufacturers thou.

It's not that the extra CCs can't make more power than the thou, but it's not the point of the bike.

AllanB

31st July 2013, 19:42

That's weird - most people I hear talking about Busas are saying 'fark that's a fugly looking bike.....'

Bawahahahahahahahah

After the turbo are you going to extend the swingarm and get one of those 240 rears........

haydes55

31st July 2013, 20:01

Big Dave

31st July 2013, 20:04

Yep, all of the hyperbikes are slower than their manufacturers thou.

Stroudy overtook me when I was riding a Busa around Hampton downs. He was on a Mackintosh Norton 500.

300weatherby

31st July 2013, 20:28

Yep, all of the hyperbikes are slower than their manufacturers thou.

It's not that the extra CCs can't make more power than the thou, but it's not the point of the bike.

Yep, the Busa is fast, but you dont see them in world supers for a reason, I have both, not hard to figure out which one is the race bike and which is the road bike. The Busa is docile as if you want a shopping trolley, will commute even in heavy traffic without fuss, will tear off long distance fast and in comfort, two up, the pillion gets a comfortable seat and no real wind blast, and it will play like a sport bike in the twisties if you want. The thou is a bit more focused.

The "uglyness" of a Busa is subjective and if you have one, it grows on you and it kinda makes a statement to the observer, like a Mack truck, a pump action shotgun or a Rottweiller does:apumpin:

nzspokes

31st July 2013, 20:47

Yep, the Busa is fast, but you dont see them in world supers for a reason, I have both, not hard to figure out which one is the race bike and which is the road bike. The Busa is docile as if you want a shopping trolley, will commute even in heavy traffic without fuss, will tear off long distance fast and in comfort, two up, the pillion gets a comfortable seat and no real wind blast, and it will play like a sport bike in the twisties if you want. The thou is a bit more focused.

The "uglyness" of a Busa is subjective and if you have one, it grows on you and it kinda makes a statement to the observer, like a Mack truck, a pump action shotgun or a Rottweiller does:apumpin:

I would rather a ZX14 myself.

In orange.

Coolz

31st July 2013, 21:38

I would rather a ZX14 myself.

In orange.

Jafa orange?

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 21:56

Yep, all of the hyperbikes are slower than their manufacturers thou
Thats a sweeping statement, but I aint going to start this arguement.

The "uglyness" of a Busa is subjective and if you have one, it grows on you and it kinda makes a statement to the observer, like a Mack truck, a pump action shotgun or a Rottweiller does
Mate couldn't have put it any better. Hit the nail on the head right there.

Stroudy overtook me when I was riding a Busa around Hampton downs. He was on a Mackintosh Norton 500
Saw that bike at the speed show. Very impressive.

That's weird - most people I hear talking about Busas are saying 'fark that's a fugly looking bike.....'

Bawahahahahahahahah

After the turbo are you going to extend the swingarm and get one of those 240 rears........
Kill Yourself...

Crasherfromwayback

31st July 2013, 22:05

Yep, all of the hyperbikes are slower than their manufacturers thou.

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Fucking bullshit. A Hayabusa will suck the headlight out of a GSXR1000 on the way past it.

Yep, the Busa is fast, but you dont see them in world supers for a reason,:

Yeah. Because they're road bikes not race bikes.

Thats a sweeping statement, but I aint going to start this arguement.

..

I sure as fuck am. I'll see Drew on a GSXR1000 anytime at a drag strip or straight quiet country road anytime on a GSX1300R. Dead meat.

yod

31st July 2013, 22:31

I sure as fuck am. I'll see Drew on a GSXR1000 anytime at a drag strip or straight quiet country road anytime on a GSX1300R. Dead meat.

I'd be interested to see how the bird would fare

injected model, PCIII and race headers - I've certainly never found then end of the fucker on the road!:blink:

edit: this is a good spot (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=Te+Ore+Ore+Bideford+Rd&daddr=Te+Ore+Ore+Bideford+Rd&hl=en&ll=-40.937021,175.726962&spn=0.024055,0.053945&sll=-40.938042,175.717757&sspn=0.006014,0.013486&geocode=FYZhj_0d6ZN5Cg%3BFZZSj_0dJjF5Cg&t=h&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=17&z=15)...err...i think:whistle:

The Reibz

31st July 2013, 22:34

I sure as fuck am. I'll see Drew on a GSXR1000 anytime at a drag strip or straight quiet country road anytime on a GSX1300R. Dead meat
Well some cunt had to say it.
When we are talking top speeds we are talking LSR, not MOTOGP type shit. A stock geared busa would destroy a 1000cc over a rolling mile. No arguement about it.
And before cunts start going on about hitting 300kph on their 1000cc's, back it up with a image of a GPS showing actual speed, not just that indicated shit.

AllanB

31st July 2013, 22:48

Good to see my comments were take as 'tongue in cheek' well, maybe not the kill yourself one! Suzuki owners eh .........

I do wonder if the next gen model (will there be one?) will throw away the old styling and slim that bitch down a bit (I keep hearing that I like big butts song ......). I was going to say make em naked but they kind of did with the B-King - and that was a entire styling exercise in it's own right!

GSXR vs Bussa ...... on the road ........ interesting.

Mental owning one? Nah mate - are the people who by HSV's or turbo XR6's mental?

Crasherfromwayback

31st July 2013, 22:59

I'd be interested to see how the bird would fare

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Obviously a GSXR1000 is a seriously fast motorcycle. Fuck, all of the thous are. But a Hayabusa is 1340cc. Makes it even more impressive that the BMW S1000RR makes the same HP as the Busa. But a GSXR1000? Bye bye.

Well some cunt had to say it.
When we are talking top speeds we are talking LSR, not MOTOGP type shit. A stock geared busa would destroy a 1000cc over a rolling mile. No arguement about it.
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Yeah I don't give a flying fuck about top speeds. But a Busa GenII is still trying to flatten your eyeballs in 6th.

I do wonder if the next gen model (will there be one?) will throw away the old styling and slim that bitch down a bit (I keep hearing that I like big butts song ......). GSXR vs Bussa ...... on the road ........ interesting.
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I'd like to see the GenIII to still be unmistakenly a Busa...but for sure it needs a bit of a diet. Although having said that...in the big winds we get here...the weight ain't always a bad thing. You've only gotta put some nice Yoshi slip ons on it to save nearly 30kg's anyway.

yod

31st July 2013, 23:15

I'd like to see the GenIII to still be unmistakenly a Busa...but for sure it needs a bit of a diet. Although having said that...in the big winds we get here...the weight ain't always a bad thing. You've only gotta put some nice Yoshi slip ons on it to save nearly 30kg's anyway.

Whoever put the micron setup on mine saved a fortune of weight - the factory set (cans and headers) came with the bike and they weighed a fucking ton!

The Busa is basically off my shopping list (ha! that's WINDOW shopping list) because the arse looks like it's starting to melt - if they changed the styling I might be interested, but then, it wouldn't be a Busa :msn-wink:

Anyone tried a K1300S? They're supposed to be fairly rapid...

Crasherfromwayback

31st July 2013, 23:24

Anyone tried a K1300S? They're supposed to be fairly rapid...

To ride one of those...you have to have exactly the same riding gear as your wife/boyfriend.

Kornholio

1st August 2013, 00:07

Brian Bernard used to race one back then... I probably would have bought one if he won races on it.... Still he gave it a bloody good crack and used to be very entertaining :Punk:

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 00:15

Brian Bernard used to race one back then... I probably would have bought one if he won races on it.... Still he gave it a bloody good crack and used to be very entertaining :Punk:

Yeah on a gen I they did very well at Bathhurst with Johnny Hepburn, can't remember if BB was there then too. A GSXR1000 will wheel stand off a wee crest at 250kph on full throttle because it's powerfull and light. A GSX1300R will do it because it's heavy and packed with fuck you cunt HP and torque.

Gremlin

1st August 2013, 01:36

Fucking bullshit. A Hayabusa will suck the headlight out of a GSXR1000 on the way past it.
I think Drew wasn't talking about all out top speed. I got the impression more of a lap around a circuit or down a winding road. As you say though, two different bikes anyway.

The K13S is plenty quick (boss has one, mate has a K12S, another has a K13R). Blackbird on steriods with turbine like power. I've had one speeding ticket in my life, on a Blackbird, and I didn't think I was speeding until I saw the speedo. I don't like bikes that make effortless speed like that, sportsbikes give you a much better impression of speed... so I haven't been game to give a K13S a go :whistle:

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 02:10

I think Drew wasn't talking about all out top speed. I got the impression more of a lap around a circuit or down a winding road. As you say though, two different bikes anyway.

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Nah. I think Drew couldn't be that simple.

Drew

1st August 2013, 05:52

Fucking bullshit. A Hayabusa will suck the headlight out of a GSXR1000 on the way past it.

Yeah. Because they're road bikes not race bikes.

I sure as fuck am. I'll see Drew on a GSXR1000 anytime at a drag strip or straight quiet country road anytime on a GSX1300R. Dead meat.I'm intrigued. Is the GSX-R1000 not the faster accelerating bike, with a higher top speed off the shop floor?

Nah. I think Drew couldn't be that simple.Never underestimate my simplicity.

nzspokes

1st August 2013, 06:38

Jafa orange?

This orange, http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=620065751

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 07:22

I'm intrigued. Is the GSX-R1000 not the faster accelerating bike, with a higher top speed off the shop floor?

Never underestimate my simplicity.

Top speed on bus will be the limiter. 2013 bus is an extra 10-15 hp on last years also. Bus has stayed performance wise the same for a long time while 1k bikes get small changes often to encourage people up grading. Acceleration on bus with limiters removed will be a bit quicker and top speed a fraction higher. Ability to role on accelerate will be better on the bus.

I have the limiters removed on the 14. With the ecu reflash its ment to do 9s and top speed at 330 odd with 230hp at crank including ram duct. Claims don't meen a lot though so will see at the next flying quarters. 300-310 would be a good result for me. I don't think at my size and weight I could get a zx10 to do that.

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 08:43

Mental owning one? Nah mate - are the people who by HSV's or turbo XR6's mental?
I own one of these as well, must be completely fucked in the head. Sorry about the "Kill Yourself" comment too lol

GenIII will have a factory turbo similar to a RCC Stage 1 or it will be extended out to 1400cc plus. There is a kit from APE which lets you bore/stroker it out to 1507cc, you just need 2 batteries to crank the motor. You would make better power with stock compression and a Turbo anyway. To argue teh whole 240/360 tyre kit idea, does it ever occur to people that this is what the owner actually wants their bike to look like? Yeah it looks gay and has no functionality but so do lowrider cars, soccor mums in lifted trucks, and rich cunts in supercars they cant drive. But some cunts gotta have respect for doing something a little different and outside the norm. Even if they are squids/posers/gays/niggaz/whitetrash/homos ect...

Heres the extended swingarm concept as explained by Ryan Schnitz. They hold greater functionality than some of you might realise.

Leverage pertains to the wheelbase and center of gravity of the motorcycle. The longer the swingarm and lower the bike, the more leverage the bike has to put more torque to the tire and keep the front wheel grounded. Anyone who has tried to launch hard with a stock height or stock wheelbase bike knows this. You canï¿½t launch hard without the front wheel coming up. You need more leverage
http://store.schnitzracing.com/choosing-the-right-sprocket/

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 08:47

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 09:12

I'm intrigued. Is the GSX-R1000 not the faster accelerating bike, with a higher top speed off the shop floor?

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Not talking about top speed mate. They're all limited to 300kph anyway. I'm talking about sheer butt clenching acceleration. My cheekometer tells me a Busa will smoke a GSXR1000. You ridden a gen II Busa in anger?

Ender EnZed

1st August 2013, 09:56

I do wonder if the next gen model (will there be one?) will throw away the old styling and slim that bitch down a bit (I keep hearing that I like big butts song ......).

It'd be a shame if they did. It's the only faired Japanese bike that doesn't look almost exactly the same as every other faired Japanese bike.

Big Dave

1st August 2013, 11:03

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 11:12

Personally what I find frustrating about the hyperbikes is that they aren't very good for tall guys - and there are plenty of us.

You'd think 'big bike - bit of room' - but peg to seat height is the same as a supersports.

Yeah the cut outs in the tank are no good for you big fellas eh! Same prob with the B-King. Cost me a few sales that did...

Kornholio

1st August 2013, 11:26

Yeah on a gen I they did very well at Bathhurst with Johnny Hepburn, can't remember if BB was there then too. A GSXR1000 will wheel stand off a wee crest at 250kph on full throttle because it's powerfull and light. A GSX1300R will do it because it's heavy and packed with fuck you cunt HP and torque.

Heh, yeah my mate has a Gen1... I call it the Millenium Falcon cos that what it feels like when you sit on it but also gets you to warp speed before you know it... very impressive power but he needs it cos he 130kgs and 6'3... He's lost about 20kgs this winter so power to weight will be up this Summer :D

Stylo

1st August 2013, 18:55

Heh, yeah my mate has a Gen1... I call it the Millenium Falcon cos that what it feels like when you sit on it but also gets you to warp speed before you know it... very impressive power but he needs it cos he 130kgs and 6'3... He's lost about 20kgs this winter so power to weight will be up this Summer :D

Watching with interest , don't forget the torque factor and dropping it into the equation as it needs to be factored as well.

GSXr1000 182hp crank and 117nm @ 12k rpm

GSXR 1300 Gen2 196hp and 154nm @ 10k rpm

Simply, there's where your extra ponys come from , longer legs and more cc's , the 30 + % more torque makes all the difference.

The Busa makes enormous torque through the midrange whereas the typical 1000 Sportbike is designed for high rpm and good fun round the track. But relatively very low on mid-range torque.

Apples and Bananas

Drew

1st August 2013, 19:03

The Busa makes enormous torque through the midrange whereas the typical 1000 Sportbike is designed for high rpm and good fun round the track. But relatively very low on mid-range torque.

You've never ridden a Gixxer thou then?

The things have had stupid useable poke, from 4000 rpm since the first model. And a useable rev range from 2500 all the way to the limiter.

K5 is my favourite of the motors. INSANE torque!

The busa clearly has more, and seems like it's the quicker bike on paper.

I know which one most riders would be safer on though, given the appaling state of the skills required to be on the road in New Zealand.

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 19:10

I know which one most riders would be safer on though, given the appaling state of the skills required to be on the road in New Zealand.

A Busa is actually way easier to pottle round on than any GSXR1000 too mate. You really must go for a good thrash on a GenII Jobby. You'll be a believer.

Madness

1st August 2013, 19:11

You'll be a believer.

You gonna throw in a fancy battery with that?

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 19:17

You gonna throw in a fancy battery with that?

They come std with one!

Drew

1st August 2013, 19:19

A Busa is actually way easier to pottle round on than any GSXR1000 too mate. You really must go for a good thrash on a GenII Jobby. You'll be a believer.Jimmy has a shit eating grin on his face, everytime he gets off one. I'll have a hoon one day.

I don't remember riding the gen1 come to think of it. For some reason I'm sure I have though.

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 19:21

Jimmy has a shit eating grin on his face, everytime he gets off .

That's because Jimmy gets off on eating shit.

Drew

1st August 2013, 19:23

That's because Jimmy gets off on eating shit.I heard your steak and wedges were restaurant quality, he rates them, now I learn they're shit.

Crasherfromwayback

1st August 2013, 19:24

I heard your steak and wedges were restaurant quality, .

Hahahaha...if I may say so myself...

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 19:37

Last sprints held
flying
09 r1 293.77
08 busa 293.07
07 busa 292.24

standing
09 busa 9.950
09 r1 10.037
08 busa 10.166

next sprints on 15/09/13

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 19:39

Last sprints held
flying
09 r1 293.77
08 busa 293.07
07 busa 292.24

standing
09 busa 9.950
09 r1 10.037
08 busa 10.166

next sprints on 15/09/13

What mods? Sound like they are almost bone stock

Drew

1st August 2013, 19:43

What mods? Sound like they are almost bone stockReads like the guy on the R1 was a pussy too!

10 seconds +!

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 19:45

Not sure but think the r1 was standard (owner would have to confirm) the 08 busa wasn't road legal and had lots of pretty stickers all over it.

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 19:48

Reads like the guy on the R1 was a pussy too!

10 seconds +!

Ha Ha, your a hard man to please drew.

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 19:50

Nothing in those times. Half a bike length at the absolute most. Where do they hold these sprints and how do I enter?

AllanB

1st August 2013, 19:53

Everyone knows the power to sticker ratio is 5hp per sticker.

However

There are factory stickers that actually reduce power - examples are: running-in stickers, always wear your helmet stickers, chain adjustment stickers and the sticker that robs the most hp is the db reading sticker.

Best remove those factory ones......

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 19:54

Perfect time for the worlds best Fast and the Furious quote...

Dom: You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car... Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake! You almost had me?

Dom: Now, me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried.

[closes bonnet of car]

Dom: Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.

[Crowd cheers in agreement]

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 19:55

Nothing in those times. Half a bike length at the absolute most. Where do they hold these sprints and how do I enter?

East West road in martinborough, just turn up and signup, not sure on cost.
net one is 15/09

Drew

1st August 2013, 20:02

Ha Ha, your a hard man to please drew.I like to hear 'em sing mate.
Speaking of which, that K4 tacho needle been introduced to the red bit yet?

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 20:04

Got a website where the events are published? MNZ is fucken useless as... (Fuck you Gareth Morgan you class A balllicker)

Smifffy

1st August 2013, 20:08

Got a website where the events are published? MNZ is fucken useless as... (Fuck you Gareth Morgan you class A balllicker)

...ummmmmm....

Confused much?

WTF does GM have to do with MNZ?

Is this other event MNZ sanctioned that it should be on the website?

WTF??

Drew

1st August 2013, 20:11

Got a website where the events are published? MNZ is fucken useless as... (Fuck you Gareth Morgan you class A balllicker)

http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/

'Ere ya go.

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 20:12

I like to hear 'em sing mate.
Speaking of which, that K4 tacho needle been introduced to the red bit yet?

Many many times mate, just not up that hill (yet)

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 20:14

http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/

'Ere ya go.

Do you think ill beat all the 1ks in flying quarter?

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 20:16

Do you think ill beat all the 1ks in flying quarter?

Depends if er in doors lets you have ya balls back

Drew

1st August 2013, 20:17

Do you think ill beat all the 1ks in flying quarter?Depends how commited you are bro. 50 psi in the tyres, is not something I was willing to try. Tony Sampson says it's worth quite a few clicks though, and he's clocked over 300 repeatedly.

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 20:20

Depends how commited you are bro. 50 psi in the tyres, is not something I was willing to try. Tony Sampson says it's worth quite a few clicks though, and he's clocked over 300 repeatedly.

Don't forget the bigger front sprocket and remapping, but fuck yeah he was fast.

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 20:21

Depends how commited you are bro. 50 psi in the tyres, is not something I was willing to try. Tony Sampson says it's worth quite a few clicks though, and he's clocked over 300 repeatedly.

Land speed record towing a trailer is 256. That doesn't sound hard.

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 20:23

Don't forget the bigger front sprocket and remapping, but fuck yeah he was fast.

Mines brooks reflashed with no limiters 230hp and ment to do 330 on stock gearing with additional 500rpm rev limit added. Im still thinking 300-310 sounds like a good result.

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 20:25

Land speed record towing a trailer is 256. That doesn't sound hard.

Yep, lack of use will make em swell;

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 20:28

Yep, lack of use will make em swell;

???? Your recommending I rub one off every day??

Drew

1st August 2013, 20:31

???? Your recommending I rub one off every day?????You suggesting it's not normal to rub one out every day?

98tls

1st August 2013, 20:34

Mines brooks reflashed with no limiters 230hp and ment to do 330 on stock gearing with additional 500rpm rev limit added. Im still thinking 300-310 sounds like a good result.

moss whats this "brooks" reflash your on about?

fatboyzed

1st August 2013, 20:35

???? Your recommending I rub one off every day??

I been married 20+ years mate, experience says yup.

unstuck

1st August 2013, 20:36

???You suggesting it's not normal to rub one out every day?

Only one.:eek:

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 20:37

???You suggesting it's not normal to rub one out every day?

I was worried you would call me greedy for a rub off twice daily. Is it wrong if im trying to prevent excess swelling?

98tls

1st August 2013, 20:37

Only one.:eek:

Shuddup you,"rub one out" in Gore is an entirely different thing...

Smifffy

1st August 2013, 20:44

moss whats this "brooks" reflash your on about?

How dare you try to bring this back on topic!!! :girlfight::girlfight:

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 20:45

moss whats this "brooks" reflash your on about?

I sent my ecu away to America for a reflash (changed program).

2012-2013 zx14r has 175hp limiter in 1st and 2nd gear.
reflash removes that and raises rev limiter another 500rpm.
It also removes the 299 speed limiter. ZX14r has traction control compairing front and rear wheel. The abs/traction control sensors tell the ecu when 299 is reached so the ecu needs reprogram to ignore the limiter. Theres no other way to get the limiter removed unless you remade the sprocket and front discs with less sensor holes. Unplug the sensors and the bike reverts to wet ride mode hp which is 150hp approx.

Theres a few other changes made also.

I think the latest busa is the same. Power commanders wont fix limiters now.

98tls

1st August 2013, 20:56

I sent my ecu away to America for a reflash (changed program).

2012-2013 zx14r has 175hp limiter in 1st and 2nd gear.
reflash removes that and raises rev limiter another 500rpm.
It also removes the 299 speed limiter. ZX14r has traction control compairing front and rear wheel. The abs/traction control sensors tell the ecu when 299 is reached so the ecu needs reprogram to ignore the limiter. Theres no other way to get the limiter removed unless you remade the sprocket and front discs with less sensor holes. Unplug the sensors and the bike reverts to wet ride mode hp which is 150hp approx.

Theres a few other changes made also.

I think the latest busa is the same. Power commanders wont fix limiters now.

Interesting.Ive been mucking about with the airbox on the old S and in turn playing with the Yosh box,very primitive compared but fun all the same.:niceone:

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 21:08

Interesting.Ive been mucking about with the airbox on the old S and in turn playing with the Yosh box,very primitive compared but fun all the same.:niceone:

The latest stuff leaves the owner wanting an older bike to tinker with.

The reason busa doesn't do well in flying quarters in the local events is the limiters haven't been removed.

Hard to say a busa got beat in the flying when the 2013 model has a 286kph limiter. So the bikes are going to run 280-295 depending on tyre tread depth, profile and pressure.

98tls

1st August 2013, 21:25

The latest stuff leaves the owner wanting an older bike to tinker with.

The reason busa doesn't do well in flying quarters in the local events is the limiters haven't been removed.

Hard to say a busa got beat in the flying when the 2013 model has a 286kph limiter. So the bikes are going to run 280-295 depending on tyre tread depth, profile and pressure.

Fair enough.Only experience ive had with a Busa was over on the West coast a few years back heading to the Woostock rally,dont think he liked having an old v twin up his backside and going up and then down the staircase he would come out of some corners giving it a handful which had the rear almost smoking up,didnt increase the gap at all but well impressive to watch.:niceone:

Mushu

1st August 2013, 21:33

Fair enough.Only experience ive had with a Busa was over on the West coast a few years back heading to the Woostock rally,dont think he liked having an old v twin up his backside and going up and then down the staircase he would come out of some corners giving it a handful which had the rear almost smoking up,didnt increase the gap at all but well impressive to watch.:niceone:

I followed a gen1 busa to Akaroa a few weeks ago on my DR, after a lot of big talk earlier he couldn't get away from me in the twisties even with his ability to pull away on any straight, and I was on knobblies (which he felt the need to remind me of when we stopped).

Is kind of horses for courses, probably far better than a litrebike for touring but as soon as you introduce corners onto the equation the litrebike is likely to be faster. My supersport is fast enough for me, top speed 271 (indicated, probably more like 250 in reality) and quarter mile in the 11 second bracket.

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 21:56

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 22:02

The latest stuff leaves the owner wanting an older bike to tinker with.

The reason busa doesn't do well in flying quarters in the local events is the limiters haven't been removed.

Hard to say a busa got beat in the flying when the 2013 model has a 286kph limiter. So the bikes are going to run 280-295 depending on tyre tread depth, profile and pressure.

Costs less than $150 to remove the limiter on any busa with a xTRE/aTRE chip. Basically the only top speed restricted gear is 6th gear, other gears also have timing restrictions. 5th gear is completely unrestricted as far as timing goes. So the chip tricks the ECU into thinking its in 5th gear all the time (5-N-5-5-5-5-5) meaning no timing retarding is applied in any gear and the speed limiter is removed. You also get a dope looking gear indicator if you want. Took me 20 mins to install mine and didnt have to touch the ECU. Got a PCV for the EFI tuning and a 3bar Map sensor plug in for when the turbo goes in.

Kornholio

1st August 2013, 22:07

Costs less than $150 to remove the limiter on any busa with a xTRE/aTRE chip. Basically the only top speed restricted gear is 6th gear, other gears also have timing restrictions. 5th gear is completely unrestricted as far as timing goes. So the chip tricks the ECU into thinking its in 5th gear all the time (5-N-5-5-5-5-5) meaning no timing retarding is applied in any gear and the speed limiter is removed. You also get a dope looking gear indicator if you want. Took me 20 mins to install mine and didnt have to touch the ECU. Got a PCV for the EFI tuning and a 3bar Map sensor plug in for when the turbo goes in.

May your rear tyre rest in pieces....

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 22:25

nzspokes

1st August 2013, 22:32

Well heres a Busa getting owned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhlVSn5nnw

By a 900 Hornet. Bwhahahahaha:laugh:

The Reibz

1st August 2013, 22:40

They also state tre will only disable speed limiter 2001 until 2008 models. Later model busas restrict speed differently.

Good thing I got a GenI then ay mate. Pretty keen to see how fast she will go

mossy1200

1st August 2013, 22:46

Good thing I got a GenI then ay mate. Pretty keen to see how fast she will go

Yeah the earlier models have less trouble tricking ecu.
Traction control model bikes with anti wheelie etc is the reflash era.

300weatherby

1st August 2013, 22:48

I followed a gen1 busa to Akaroa a few weeks ago on my DR, after a lot of big talk earlier he couldn't get away from me in the twisties even with his ability to pull away on any straight, and I was on knobblies (which he felt the need to remind me of when we stopped).

Is kind of horses for courses, probably far better than a litrebike for touring but as soon as you introduce corners onto the equation the litrebike is likely to be faster. My supersport is fast enough for me, top speed 271 (indicated, probably more like 250 in reality) and quarter mile in the 11 second bracket.

Don't be too quick to reach for your VC, it was the rider, not the bike - maybe he just didn't understand (or want to) how to get the best from that platform.

The Busa is actually quite capable in the twisties, given it it not made to compete with sport or motardish type bikes, if you understand it (the Busa) is actually fun in that evironment.

Consider your.... "opponent" : The bike is around 250kg fluids and fuel, likely on sport touring tyres with the wrong pressures, no suspension setup, possibly a lack of relevant skills for the competition he found himself in. Without factoring in stuff like road conditions, traffic density, common sense grip on staying alive and not overstepping the mark, it is difficult to say accurately that your motardish machine is "better in the twisties" unless there is a way to qualify (grade) the skill sets of both pilots.

The argument that one bike is faster/better than the other is flawed unless both riders have the same skill and experience levels on both platforms, and then swap to retest.

I can, if it suited me to, get my Gen 1 Busa around Ruapuna faster than the typical Akaroa GP warrior on his R1/GSXR/ZXR ect, but in the real world? No. Smart people let them go and race themselves off a corner somewhere. Smart people save it for the track. If he had binned it with you up his exhaust, my money is on target fixation and two bikes down.:corn:

FTR: I ride a Gen1 Busa in the real world and race a 675D and a GSXR1000 and I think the Busa is capable everywhere.

Madness

2nd August 2013, 00:39

Well heres a Busa getting owned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhlVSn5nnw

By a 900 Hornet. Bwhahahahaha:laugh:

If you look closely you'll see there wasn't even a Hayabusa in the video, unless one went past in the opposite direction. My dog can ride better than the cock piloting the camera.

The Reibz

2nd August 2013, 08:10

If you look closely you'll see there wasn't even a Hayabusa in the video, unless one went past in the opposite direction.

Are you sure mate? Looks like the exact handle bar and dash configuration I walk out to each morning.

unstuck

2nd August 2013, 08:24

Are you sure mate? Looks like the exact handle bar and dash configuration I walk out to each morning.

Is that you racing the Hornet, cunt?:bleh:

The Reibz

2nd August 2013, 09:05

Is that you racing the Hornet, cunt?:bleh:

Nah cunt, ain't seen many hornets around my neck of the woods. Spokes is brining me his one for a bit of TIG work soon though (still haven't received anything down the emails from you bro). I don't know what it is about 1080p cameras but my camera masks 140 - 160 look slow was fark compared to that video. Bloody GoPro.

http://store.schnitzracing.com/myrtle-west-bolt-on-swingarm-extensions-suzuki-gsx1300r-hayabusa-99-07-gsxr1000-01-02-gsxr750-00-03-gsxr600-01-03/
Looking at possibly getting a set of these to support the turbo further down the track. Should be good for keeping the front wheel down on the strip but then easy enough to revert it back for use on the strip. Schnitz Racing are good parts dealers by the way, ordered a grand worth of shit from them and they are awesome. PashnitBusa are also good, has 40,000 parts at his disposal.

Ender EnZed

2nd August 2013, 10:52

I followed a gen1 busa to Akaroa a few weeks ago on my DR, after a lot of big talk earlier he couldn't get away from me in the twisties even with his ability to pull away on any straight, and I was on knobblies (which he felt the need to remind me of when we stopped).

I've owned a DR650 and I was well impressed with the stickiness of its knobbly ADV tyres on the road, but there's no way in hell I could manage anything even remotely like the pace I can on my Gen 1 Hayabusa on a road like the one to Akaroa.

There are sealed roads where the DR is better suited but they're generally limited to those with only a single lane and a decent amount of moss; like the Akatarawas (http://goo.gl/maps/BHBzP).

Mushu

2nd August 2013, 14:16

Don't be too quick to reach for your VC, it was the rider, not the bike - maybe he just didn't understand (or want to) how to get the best from that platform.

The Busa is actually quite capable in the twisties, given it it not made to compete with sport or motardish type bikes, if you understand it (the Busa) is actually fun in that evironment.

Consider your.... "opponent" : The bike is around 250kg fluids and fuel, likely on sport touring tyres with the wrong pressures, no suspension setup, possibly a lack of relevant skills for the competition he found himself in. Without factoring in stuff like road conditions, traffic density, common sense grip on staying alive and not overstepping the mark, it is difficult to say accurately that your motardish machine is "better in the twisties" unless there is a way to qualify (grade) the skill sets of both pilots.

The argument that one bike is faster/better than the other is flawed unless both riders have the same skill and experience levels on both platforms, and then swap to retest.

I can, if it suited me to, get my Gen 1 Busa around Ruapuna faster than the typical Akaroa GP warrior on his R1/GSXR/ZXR ect, but in the real world? No. Smart people let them go and race themselves off a corner somewhere. Smart people save it for the track. If he had binned it with you up his exhaust, my money is on target fixation and two bikes down.:corn:

FTR: I ride a Gen1 Busa in the real world and race a 675D and a GSXR1000 and I think the Busa is capable everywhere.

My post wasn't really a commentary on the ability of a busa, more of an amusing story. There was definitely an element of ability at play, he was rushing into corners trying to put distance between us but then couldn't accelerate through the corners due to the SRs, if he'd binned it it would have happened at corner entry where there was the greatest distance between us and I was fully expecting it to happen so I doubt I would have followed suit.

It does speak to the attitude of a lot of busa owners though, little technical ability but they just have to have the fastest bike out there.

I very rarely use the full performance of my R6 on the road, WOT produces for more power than is ever required on the road and I have only had it over 220 a couple of times.

I've owned a DR650 and I was well impressed with the stickiness of its knobbly ADV tyres on the road, but there's no way in hell I could manage anything even remotely like the pace I can on my Gen 1 Hayabusa on a road like the one to Akaroa.

There are sealed roads where the DR is better suited but they're generally limited to those with only a single lane and a decent amount of moss; like the Akatarawas (http://goo.gl/maps/BHBzP).

The standard knobblies on the DR are really good, very sticky, I don't push my luck too much under brakes but through corners I find they have really linear grip so very easy to push to the limit on any surface, they don't last long though (2000k for a rear if I'm pushing it) and they are quite expensive.

rc_36_rider

2nd August 2013, 15:26

Watching with interest , don't forget the torque factor and dropping it into the equation as it needs to be factored as well.

GSXr1000 182hp crank and 117nm @ 12k rpm

GSXR 1300 Gen2 196hp and 154nm @ 10k rpm

Simply, there's where your extra ponys come from , longer legs and more cc's , the 30 + % more torque makes all the diff

And there it is the Busa has Busa's and Busa's and Busa's of torque!!! (...the fun power...) :2thumbsup

Crasherfromwayback

2nd August 2013, 15:35

Are you sure mate? Looks like the exact handle bar and dash configuration I walk out to each morning.

Looks and sounds more like a big Kawasaki to me.

Drew

2nd August 2013, 16:56

I rode my bike today. How fucken werid is that?!

Madness

2nd August 2013, 17:40

Are you sure mate? Looks like the exact handle bar and dash configuration I walk out to each morning.

True? I thought it looked a bit shit to be honest, almost Chinese-looking. I thought even the earlier ones had the chrome bezels around the dials.

I must have been wrong.

Crasherfromwayback

2nd August 2013, 17:43

True? I thought it looked a bit shit to be honest, almost Chinese-looking. I thought even the earlier ones had the chrome bezels around the dials.

I must have been wrong.

It reminded me of a ZZR11/1200.

Madness

2nd August 2013, 17:47

It reminded me of a ZZR11/1200.

Either way, the cunt couldn't ride his way out of a paper bag soaked in custard. The riding got worse as the video went on.

Back on topic. Anyone want to trade a ZX12-R for a KTM 950/990? Hyperbike ownership aint much fun on 85 points.

Drew

2nd August 2013, 18:10

It reminded me of a ZZR11/1200.
Google Hayabusa dash. It's what it is, no question.

Owner can't ride for shit judging by that vid, and his brake and clutch masters will weep fluid unless he replaces the screws with countersinking ones.

Crasherfromwayback

2nd August 2013, 18:12

Google Hayabusa dash. It's what it is, no question.

Owner can't ride for shit judging by that vid, and his brake and clutch masters will weep fluid unless he replaces the screws with countersinking ones.

Yeah maybe what threw me off was the colour of it. And yeah...noticed the cyl cap screwss.

Drew

2nd August 2013, 18:16

Yeah maybe what threw me off was the colour of it. And yeah...noticed the cyl cap screwss.

Oh yeah, the poor rider/mechanic, is also a fuckin fag for having painted his clock surround!

Gremlin

2nd August 2013, 19:24

Anyone want to trade a ZX12-R for a KTM 950/990? Hyperbike ownership aint much fun on 85 points.
It ain't going to help your licence... just spends a lot more time on one wheel.

Only your right hand controls your licence :lol:

Madness

2nd August 2013, 19:29

It ain't going to help your licence... just spends a lot more time on one wheel.

Only your right hand controls your licence :lol:

You've commented recently about an experience on a Blackbird pootling along at licence-losing speeds unbeknown to yourself. I'm sticking to posted speed limits these days (most of the time) and OMFG it's boring on a ZX12-R. Time for a change.

mossy1200

2nd August 2013, 19:32

I got touch wood zero penalty points and a zx14. Must ride it one day.

Gremlin

2nd August 2013, 19:35

You've commented recently about an experience on a Blackbird pootling along at licence-losing speeds unbeknown to yourself. I'm sticking to posted speed limits these days (most of the time) and OMFG it's boring on a ZX12-R. Time for a change.
I completely agree. Thankfully, it was 136 (still finished off my remaining demerits though). I would have actually been better off on my ZX10R I had at the time, except it was having issues. At least you felt the speed better.

Wanting a 950/990 isn't the solution though (I went from ZX10 to 990SM). It took a few months of very painful adjustment, being focussed on the speed limit before things got more normal.

5 years on, and I still want to ride a ZX14, K1300R etc... but I know I really shouldn't. Got used to not having that power...

Madness

2nd August 2013, 19:39

Wanting a 950/990 isn't the solution though (I went from ZX10 to 990SM).

Not so much looking for a solution - if I was I'd be buying a GN250. Looking to stoke the fires of fun & enjoyment, something the ZX12-R only seems to give me at >140km/hr these days. Besides, I've never had a twin & this could be the last "proper" bike I get before I retire into Harley-Davidson ownership or incontinence, or both.

300weatherby

2nd August 2013, 22:49

My post wasn't really a commentary on the ability of a busa, more of an amusing story. There was definitely an element of ability at play, he was rushing into corners trying to put distance between us but then couldn't accelerate through the corners due to the SRs, if he'd binned it it would have happened at corner entry where there was the greatest distance between us and I was fully expecting it to happen so I doubt I would have followed suit.

It does speak to the attitude of a lot of busa owners though, little technical ability but they just have to have the fastest bike out there.

I very rarely use the full performance of my R6 on the road, WOT produces for more power than is ever required on the road and I have only had it over 220 a couple of times.

The standard knobblies on the DR are really good, very sticky, I don't push my luck too much under brakes but through corners I find they have really linear grip so very easy to push to the limit on any surface, they don't last long though (2000k for a rear if I'm pushing it) and they are quite expensive.

A lot of Busa owners wind up on one because they have bought into the ledgendary icon (something that the Blackbird or Kawasaki will never achieve )that the Busa has become, some straight from their licence gaining Gn250. A point some miss, is that the Busa is one of the most powerfull, NOT, one of the fastest, any gear you like, at any speed you just wind a little more throttle and away you go without effort. It is the power that gets them into trouble because it is really deceptive and then suddenly the corner arrives........ On your DR you have to work for it, so there is more focus and less suprise or panic and rush- inclined to think there should be a graduated licence system that stops people jumping straight onto Busa/GSXR1000/R1 type bikes, without passing a practical course that includes unexpected suprises that test thought process and control.

Busa's rock, but everybody on whatever they ride usually think their ride rocks too, be less interesting if we all rode the same bike.

The Reibz

2nd August 2013, 22:55

True? I thought it looked a bit shit to be honest, almost Chinese-looking. I thought even the earlier ones had the chrome bezels around the dials.

I must have been wrong.

Yeah that dude has sprayed his one. Most I have seen are carbon fibre, except for the nigga spec chrome ones in the states.
On the subject of chrome, there is a entirely chromed busa in the states. They actually found a way chrome plastics, added like 30kg to the weight of the bike. Pretty farkn stupid but its what the owner wanted.

Any turbo bike riders hanging around on here?

http://www.belugerinstudios.com/games/picture/PC11100402.jpg
Aint my cup of tea by a long shot but that blue bottle on the swing arm looks fun :)

Crasherfromwayback

2nd August 2013, 23:16

Aint my cup of tea by a long shot but that blue bottle on the swing arm looks fun :)

Maybe. But the one disc rotor on the front wheel doesn't!

The Reibz

2nd August 2013, 23:22

Maybe. But the one disc rotor on the front wheel doesn't!

Damn. Would be sweet for burning that rear tire down to nothing though. Thats the only function of it after all

Mushu

3rd August 2013, 13:10

A lot of Busa owners wind up on one because they have bought into the ledgendary icon (something that the Blackbird or Kawasaki will never achieve )that the Busa has become, some straight from their licence gaining Gn250. A point some miss, is that the Busa is one of the most powerfull, NOT, one of the fastest, any gear you like, at any speed you just wind a little more throttle and away you go without effort. It is the power that gets them into trouble because it is really deceptive and then suddenly the corner arrives........ On your DR you have to work for it, so there is more focus and less suprise or panic and rush- inclined to think there should be a graduated licence system that stops people jumping straight onto Busa/GSXR1000/R1 type bikes, without passing a practical course that includes unexpected suprises that test thought process and control.

Busa's rock, but everybody on whatever they ride usually think their ride rocks too, be less interesting if we all rode the same bike.

A lot of people base "fastest" on power figures and quarter mile times, these are often the ones that have little understanding of the finer points if bike control.

I have to disagree on the license thing though, people should be able to make their own decisions regarding their ability to ride, if you're dumb enough to think you can just ride a busa (or similar bike) without sufficient experience then maybe its better you remove yourself from the gene pool. I ride an R6 on my Ls because I ride daily and I constantly try to improve so learned faster than the "lowest common denominator" that the license system is tailored to, I bought the bike when I felt confident that I had the skill to ride out and I had great respect to the fact the bike can get me killed if I'm not careful.

Without direct training there's no way to know how much people learn, time limits between tests make little sense since there's no way to know how much someone rides in between. Even ks isn't really a good indicator, since most ride without looking for was to improve so can easily do thousands of kays with no improvement to their riding. I'm sick of the nanny state mentality, they try to make it impossible for people to do stupid things and kill themselves, I say let people do what they like, maybe then we wouldn't have so many retards walking around.

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 19:11

To the dude that gave me positive rep and asked about going to the cliffhanger sprints on his 1100. PM me bro, I got a trailer organised that can take 3, maybe 4 bikes. Just chip in for the gas, which should be fuck all, and we will be all good

AllanB

3rd August 2013, 19:18

I went off searching for 'custom hayabusa' on Google and came to the conclusion that Americans are 1. fat, 2 stupid, 3. have no taste.

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 19:31

I went off searching for 'custom hayabusa' on Google and came to the conclusion that Americans are 1. fat, 2 stupid, 3. have no taste.

Mate its all a mater of personal preference, as long as the owner thinks its cool I don't think he really gives a fuck what others think. Maybe try searching "turbo hayabusa" the one SSB built is on youtube and its pretty sick
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AllanB

3rd August 2013, 19:47

Turbo them by all means - shit add one to my bike please. Drag race them too - at least you then have a reason to reasonably extend the swingarm to reduce the tendency to wheelie.

This stuff is just ......... excess. Typical USA if a slightly wide rear wheel is in fashion lets make it stupidly wide .......

At least the orange one has tasteful paint!

And WTF remove a front brake? It is not weight saving as they add 20kg of chrome!!!!!

unstuck

3rd August 2013, 19:48

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 20:35

Taste is all important.......I love my 30yr old bike. It has zero performance compared to almost any bike, but I just love it, love the way it feels, love the way it looks, love the thrills I get when I wring its neck............So in other words, I have no taste......But a huge grin.....when I ride it.:yes:

Thats why your a semi good cunt.

Turbo them by all means - shit add one to my bike please. Drag race them too - at least you then have a reason to reasonably extend the swingarm to reduce the tendency to wheelie.

This stuff is just ......... excess. Typical USA if a slightly wide rear wheel is in fashion lets make it stupidly wide .......

At least the orange one has tasteful paint!

And WTF remove a front brake? It is not weight saving as they add 20kg of chrome!!!!!

Yeah I can agree with you mate but again its all individual owners preference. I would love to see more exaggerate looking bikes her in NZ but unfortunately our idea of a mod is pipes, airfilter and maybe a power commander. Saw some awesome stuff at the CRC speedshow, wasn't my taste at all but the vision in them was fantastic. If you can do anything that goes against the norm and you appreciate it. Maddd respect, doesnt matter what others think

AllanB

3rd August 2013, 21:20

mossy1200

3rd August 2013, 21:24

The thing I like in NZ about most modded bikes is they retain their ability to be ridden hard.

Came across a turbo GSX1400 a couple weeks ago - not obvious to the casual observer ............ bet it gives some hyperbikes the shits!

Maybe its the nature of our roads. We need to handle bumps and corners. Some of these yank bikes will only ever see a multi lane motorway.

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 21:34

Maybe its the nature of our roads. We need to handle bumps and corners. Some of these yank bikes will only ever see a multi lane motorway.

You mean our shit condition roads lol. I love our potholes mid-corner though, and truck fucked lines. Makes riding fun, but for a flat out straight you cant get much more fun than a hyperbike. Straight up!

EJK

3rd August 2013, 21:55

You mean our shit condition roads lol. I love our potholes mid-corner though, and truck fucked lines. Makes riding fun, but for a flat out straight you cant get much more fun than a hyperbike. Straight up!

Oh boy you havn't seen any shit roads til you've ridden around Christchurch mate.

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 22:08

Oh boy you havn't seen any shit roads til you've ridden around Christchurch mate.

Lol does driving around there in a Hiace count? coz man I feel for you cunts. Straight up man, please be safe out there...

unstuck

3rd August 2013, 22:20

Thats why your a semi good cunt.

Fuck you, Im REAL good at being a cunt.:finger:

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 22:28

Fuck you, Im REAL good at being a cunt.:finger:

Buy a hyperbike or stop commenting mate hahaha. Nah chur my bro, have fun on home D. Best cunt here...

unstuck

3rd August 2013, 22:30

Buy a hyperbike or stop commenting mate hahaha. Nah chur my bro, have fun on home D. Best cunt here...

Get fucked.:Punk::Punk:

nzspokes

3rd August 2013, 22:44

On this thread saying "get a Busa" seems pointless.

mossy1200

3rd August 2013, 22:50

On this thread saying "get a Busa" seems pointless.

"get a Busa" is a bit 2012 now.

Replaced by "own a 14R"

http://kawasakiworld.com/zx-14/35942-zx-14-turbo-700hp-using-gt3071r-garrett-turbine-38mm-wastegate.html

700hp

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 22:59

"get a Busa" is a bit 2012 now.

Replaced by "own a 14R"

http://kawasakiworld.com/zx-14/35942-zx-14-turbo-700hp-using-gt3071r-garrett-turbine-38mm-wastegate.html

700hp

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Twin 38mm Tials? That shit would would mean. Please tell me you plan on doing it to yours? We need a few more turbo bikes in NZ to encourage others to do it and think outside the norm!

mossy1200

3rd August 2013, 23:06

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Twin 38mm Tials? That shit would would mean. Please tell me you plan on doing it to yours? We need a few more turbo bikes in NZ to encourage others to do it and think outside the norm!

Im going to ride mine. Its already faster than my reactions can handle.
Respect for those who make a fast turbo bike if its rideable and gets ridden.

Think I recall a gsxr1000 turbo that was on tard me for sale at 18k from memory only a couple of months ago.
Claimed it was 350kph bike with a gps recorder. You would think all that effort you would run it in the local flying quarters. That would be the first thing idd want to do with mine if turbo or nitro charged it.

Turbo on me would be a waste. Im a slow rider.

EJK

3rd August 2013, 23:16

Yes please.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-609964706.htm

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 23:18

Think I recall a gsxr1000 turbo that was on tard me for sale at 18k from memory only a couple of months ago.
Claimed it was 350kph bike with a gps recorder. You would think all that effort you would run it in the local flying quarters. That would be the first thing idd want to do with mine if turbo or nitro charged it.

Agreed my friend. I recall the same bike. Its just a claim unless you have it officially timed and clocked. Hence why im going to do mine before a turbo. That way I have a goal to aim for...

T.W.R

3rd August 2013, 23:26

A lot of Busa owners wind up on one because they have bought into the ledgendary icon (something that the Blackbird or Kawasaki will never achieve )that the Busa has become

:lol: And just think it was all in one weeks difference in release dates otherwise the ZX12R would've had the kudos ;)

Yeah I can agree with you mate but again its all individual owners preference. I would love to see more exaggerate looking bikes her in NZ but unfortunately our idea of a mod is pipes, airfilter and maybe a power commander. Saw some awesome stuff at the CRC speedshow, wasn't my taste at all but the vision in them was fantastic. If you can do anything that goes against the norm and you appreciate it. Maddd respect, doesnt matter what others think

This close enough for ya ?? a $200K Egli CBX 1000hp makes a busa look totally bland :pinch:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18447&d=1130014782http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18446&d=1130014782

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 23:49

:lol: And just think it was all in one weeks difference in release dates otherwise the ZX12R would've had the kudos ;)

This close enough for ya ?? a $200K Egli CBX 1000hp makes a busa look totally bland :pinch:

Fuck thats a hardon cunt. What a chur bike!!!

T.W.R

3rd August 2013, 23:52

Fuck thats a hardon cunt. What a chur bike!!!

And just think all that was done 20+ yrs ago :yes: and when it was sold they only got $25k for it :laugh:

The Reibz

3rd August 2013, 23:55

Yes please.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-609964706.htm

Can you Pllllllease buy that bike, than let me ride it for 5mins. Thats all I ask fo.
Excellent peice of kiwi engineering right there, the main motivation on why im not going with a kit. I know how to weld too which matters big time!!!

blackdog

4th August 2013, 00:31

Yes please.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-609964706.htm

Advertised as NZ's fastest bike.

I call bullshit.

http://www.topfuel.co.nz/team.htm

The Reibz

4th August 2013, 00:33

Advertised as NZ's fastest bike.

I call bullshit.

http://www.topfuel.co.nz/team.htm

Road legal? I do not think so. Please try again...

blackdog

4th August 2013, 00:41

Road legal? I do not think so. Please try again...

I don't see anything in the ad that says fastest 'road legal' bike.

You have trouble with comprehension don't you.

The Reibz

4th August 2013, 00:48

I don't see anything in the ad that says fastest 'road legal' bike.

You have trouble with comprehension don't you.

Fucken oath I do. Do you offer lessons in english? Because I could really use them... Coming from West Auckland (Kelston) and all that shit...
Can pretty much put my fortnightly salary on the busa turbo beating that bike down the QM. It needs an extended swinger though, equal to the harleys wheel base to make it a fair test. A RCC Super Ultra does 650hp at the wheels and would easily beat that bike. Anyone want to sponsor me for the kit? I'm crazy as fuck yo! lol

blackdog

4th August 2013, 01:19

Fucken oath I do. Do you offer lessons in english? Because I could really use them... Coming from West Auckland (Kelston) and all that shit...
Can pretty much put my fortnightly salary on the busa turbo beating that bike down the QM. It needs an extended swinger though, equal to the harleys wheel base to make it a fair test. A RCC Super Ultra does 650hp at the wheels and would easily beat that bike. Anyone want to sponsor me for the kit? I'm crazy as fuck yo! lol

So you are agreeing with me, but adding provisos to legitamize a previously erroneous proclamation.

Past your bed time mate. We will negotiate rates for English tutelage when you are sober after a good sleep, and hearty breakfast aye?

In fact, I can often be persuaded to help pro bono in special cases such as yours.

The Reibz

4th August 2013, 01:24

So you are agreeing with me, but adding provisos to legitamize a previously erroneous proclamation.

Past your bed time mate. We will negotiate rates for English tutelage when you are sober after a good sleep, and hearty breakfast aye?

In fact, I can often be persuaded to help pro bono in special cases such as yours.

Put your money where your mouth is mate. +500NZD I get a higher top speed than you on 15 Sep 13 at the cliffhanger sprints. Easy money if you want it...
No hate either mate. Much respect. Just want to make shit interesting on here...

blackdog

4th August 2013, 01:32

Put your money where your mouth is mate. +500NZD I get a higher top speed than you on 15 Sep 13 at the cliffhanger sprints. Easy money if you want it...
No hate either mate. Much respect. Just want to make shit interesting on here...

Again. In the morning when you've dried out a bit, re-read this thread.

I won't be racing, but I've got a few dollars that you won't be the fastest on the day in either category.

Now go to bed, you're gonna wake up too late to enjoy all the riding to be done this day!

onearmedbandit

4th August 2013, 01:37

Advertised as NZ's fastest bike.

I call bullshit.

http://www.topfuel.co.nz/team.htm

What's its top end mister? Because the only claim I see in his ad is for top end, not quarter. And in your link it's about 1/4, not top end.

The Reibz

4th August 2013, 01:38

Again. In the morning when you've dried out a bit, re-read this thread.

I won't be racing, but I've got a few dollars that you won't be the fastest on the day in either category.

Now go to bed, you're gonna wake up too late to enjoy all the riding to be done this day!

Come on mate don't be a pussy! ahahaha
Lets make it $50 that I won't be the fastest then? Might be easy money for you my bro, but then again you never know...
Whats your preference anyway? Busa/ZX14/Blackbird?

blackdog

4th August 2013, 01:45

What's its top end mister? Because the only claim I see in his ad is for top end, not quarter. And in your link it's about 1/4, not top end.

Fuck, 'ere we go. Another argument over the difference between fast and quick.

Like ol' Hildo beating that 'blade. He was half way through third gear and the Honda was only halfway through first.

Top speed showdown, my money is still on the 'rod given testing and sorting gearing.

blackdog

4th August 2013, 01:53

Come on mate don't be a pussy! ahahaha
Lets make it $50 that I won't be the fastest then? Might be easy money for you my bro, but then again you never know...
Whats your preference anyway? Busa/ZX14/Blackbird?

A gentlemans bet then. I've got a fiddy (two of 'em obviously) says you won't be a winner in either discipline.

I will be the first to shake your hand if you take them off me.

The Reibz

4th August 2013, 01:55

Deal. But you didnt name your preference. Come on bro, im keen to know...

blackdog

4th August 2013, 02:24

Deal. But you didnt name your preference. Come on bro, im keen to know...

Nothing to do with you big balls boys racing. But if we are talking your ideas of moderns, I'd own the ZX before the 'bus.

Give me this anyday...

http://motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/KTM%201198%20RC8%20R%20Track%2012.jpg

Madness

4th August 2013, 09:32

Busa/ZX14/Blackbird?

I find it disturbing that you put the 'Bird in the same category as those other 2. It's simply not on the same level IMO.

onearmedbandit

4th August 2013, 12:17

Fuck, 'ere we go. Another argument over the difference between fast and quick.

Like ol' Hildo beating that 'blade. He was half way through third gear and the Honda was only halfway through first.

Top speed showdown, my money is still on the 'rod given testing and sorting gearing.

It seems you are the only one confusing it lol. His claim is top speed, your link claim is 1/4.

It's like saying the Veyron is the worlds fastest car, then someone saying my car does a 9s quarter so my car is faster. It's not.

blackdog

4th August 2013, 12:44

It seems you are the only one confusing it lol. His claim is top speed, your link claim is 1/4.

It's like saying the Veyron is the worlds fastest car, then someone saying my car does a 9s quarter so my car is faster. It's not.

Actually, the Veyron SS will do a 9 second quarter.

And I'll chuck in an edit here, I was just being a belligerent cunt because it was late. I had too many, and felt like stimulating some discussion.

Those probably wouldn't be the words I'd 've used last night though!

SPman

4th August 2013, 12:57

You mean our shit condition roads lol. I love our potholes mid-corner though, and truck fucked lines. Makes riding fun, but for a flat out straight you cant get much more fun than a hyperbike. Straight up!

Like in Aus - this one is 17miles long, but still has curves - just in a vertical plane......good for those IOM lift offs.......

Crasherfromwayback

4th August 2013, 13:39

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Twin 38mm Tials? That shit would would mean. Please tell me you plan on doing it to yours? We need a few more turbo bikes in NZ to encourage others to do it and think outside the norm!

You boys are a bit late to the Turbo Party! 20 odd years ago I had one of these running 20lbs boost with water and methanol injection. Unlike modern bikes...it had next to no brakes and a frame made from spagetti. You guys have got it good...

285802

AllanB

4th August 2013, 13:41

I think it is like measuring the length of your dick from the top when someone else measured theirs from underneath .......

The Reibz

4th August 2013, 14:02

You boys are a bit late to the Turbo Party! 20 odd years ago I had one of these running 20lbs boost with water and methanol injection. Unlike modern bikes...it had next to no brakes and a frame made from spagetti. You guys have got it good...

20Lbs? Must have been pretty intense to launch. I'm slowly getting all the parts together for my system, just got a Greedy Blow Off Valve for it yesterday. Going to weld the Internal gate shut on the turbo and run a external now I think. That way I can run a screamer pipe for extra street cred with the car turbo crowd. Got a 320PSI Fuel pump and Rising Rate FMU on its way from AEM in the states. Plan is to run 6 - 7 PSI on the stock motor for a bit then stud the head and do the rods/pistons/intercooling late next year and crank up the boost a bit more.

Crasherfromwayback

4th August 2013, 14:27

20Lbs? Must have been pretty intense to launch. .

lol. That's an interesting word for it. But I didn't run those sort of pressures all of the time. But yeah...even in top gear it'd still be trying to turn it's self inside out whilst wheel spinning madly at the same time. Fucking swingarm used to bend that badly under full noise that you couldn't keep it going in a straight line. Used to change lanes for you. Was as fun as fuck though and never ever got boring. Only bike out of 60 plus I think I've owned over the years I wish I had never parted with. Well that...and maybe my RS250 GP bike. Will be needing to see a build story on ya Bus...as one day...I fully intend to own another turbo bike. Once you've been there...hard to not want to again. Probably used a slab side GSXR1100 next.

T.W.R

4th August 2013, 16:08

I fully intend to own another turbo bike. Once you've been there...hard to not want to again.

The one you sent papers for is still sitting at Rakaia :yes: probably worthwhile trying to save it from neglect

Crasherfromwayback

4th August 2013, 16:10

The one you sent papers for is still sitting at Rakaia :yes: probably worthwhile trying to save it from neglect

Is it not being looked after properly mate?

T.W.R

4th August 2013, 17:13

Is it not being looked after properly mate?

put it this way, when it was brought he had to ring up Kawasaki NZ to findout what it was :pinch: I used to be disgusted at the things that went on....and one attempt at getting it started after a few months not running I just about blew my top...no consideration for what the bike actually represented at all :brick:

Crasherfromwayback

4th August 2013, 17:30

put it this way, when it was brought he had to ring up Kawasaki NZ to findout what it was :pinch: I used to be disgusted at the things that went on....and one attempt at getting it started after a few months not running I just about blew my top...no consideration for what the bike actually represented at all :brick:

Sorry to hear that. What a waste!

T.W.R

4th August 2013, 17:34

Sorry to hear that. What a waste!

It's sitting inside and gets the dust wiped off it regularly...but yeah shameful really :yes:. And some wonder why I left there :pinch: IYKWIM ;)

Crasherfromwayback

4th August 2013, 17:37

It's sitting inside and gets the dust wiped off it regularly...but yeah shameful really :yes:. And some wonder why I left there :pinch: IYKWIM ;)

Let me know if it ever comes up for sale mate.

Stylo

4th August 2013, 18:39

The one you sent papers for is still sitting at Rakaia :yes: probably worthwhile trying to save it from neglect

Would that be the guy who owns the Kawasaki shop in Rakaia ?

Talked to him not long ago .......

Rakaia's a very small town, Gas station and a pub and a 4 Square.

T.W.R

4th August 2013, 23:26

Would that be the guy who owns the Kawasaki shop in Rakaia ?

Talked to him not long ago .......

Rakaia's a very small town, Gas station and a pub and a 4 Square.

Owns the car garage with the Kawasaki dealership :yes:

Ha not that small, 2pubs, 4square & a price cutter, hair dresser, chippy, chemist, ATS, Gold Pine, RD1, 2 engineering shops, resturant, panel beaters, 2 motorcycle shops, & 3 garages :niceone:

Read this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/37856-Here-s-one-for-us-old-fellas-to-drool-over?p=832475#post832475)

T.W.R

4th August 2013, 23:31

Let me know if it ever comes up for sale mate.

He teased the market at one stage then decided to let it be, was playing with the idea of throwing it up on ebay at one stage then murmured ideas of putting in his house...was paranoid of it going walkies from the shop :yes:

yod

5th August 2013, 01:05

I find it disturbing that you put the 'Bird in the same category as those other 2. It's simply not on the same level IMO.

Cue rage-post from irate blackbird owner(s)

:angry2:

Drew

5th August 2013, 05:46

Cue rage-post from irate blackbird owner(s)

:angry2:I thought you guys had all decided to call your bikes 'sport tourers' after the Busa came out.

mossy1200

5th August 2013, 07:16

I thought you guys had all decided to call your bikes 'sport tourers' after the Busa came out.

I won the standing 1/4 miles on mine (cliffhanger)when I had one. 10.14secs
Not the fastest flying though at 270

caspernz

5th August 2013, 09:25

I thought you guys had all decided to call your bikes 'sport tourers' after the Busa came out.

Meh, in my book the Busa is a "SPORT tourer" and the Blackbird is a "sport TOURER" with the main difference being the intent of the pilot...since both are capable of that direct to jail, do not pass go, kinda speed anywayz :banana:

yod

5th August 2013, 09:45

Meh, in my book the Busa is a "SPORT tourer" and the Blackbird is a "sport TOURER" with the main difference being the intent of the pilot...since both are capable of that direct to jail, do not pass go, kinda speed anywayz :banana:

jeebus, that's fairly ambiguous territory innit?

The Busa was so named because the Blackbird was so named - the whole point of both bikes was to be the fastest fucker on the road, which they both were (are? is the 14 officially than the busa these days?) - that puts them in the same class IMO

i don't think either of them are really tourers....although they do it quite well

caspernz

5th August 2013, 10:03

jeebus, that's fairly ambiguous territory innit?

The Busa was so named because the Blackbird was so named - the whole point of both bikes was to be the fastest fucker on the road, which they both were (are? is the 14 officially than the busa these days?) - that puts them in the same class IMO

i don't think either of them are really tourers....although they do it quite well

Merely my opinion of course :eek: and since most big bikes can bust our legal limit while still in 1st gear...what any manufacturer intended us to use their so-called hyperbikes for becomes an individual choice.

I mean Mr Suzuki might be astonished to find what Drew gets up to on an RF900 for example :innocent:

Drew

5th August 2013, 10:26

.

I mean Mr Suzuki might be astonished to find what Drew gets up to on an RF900 for example :innocent:
I reckon he'd be down with it.

yod

5th August 2013, 11:40

I mean Mr Suzuki might be astonished to find what Drew gets up to on an RF900 for example :innocent:

I reckon he'd be down with it.

I broke mine :facepalm:

...and Mr Insurance bought me a Blackbird! :eek:

Drew

5th August 2013, 14:37

I broke mine :facepalm:

...and Mr Insurance bought me a Blackbird! :eek:

Thinking about it, the blackbird is probably another bike I'd enjoy thrashing the living shit out of around a track.

They're not very good at anything, and because of that could likely be pushed WAY harder than onlookers expect. Soft, spongy, and flexible equates to oodles of grip after all.

yod

5th August 2013, 15:56

Thinking about it, the blackbird is probably another bike I'd enjoy thrashing the living shit out of around a track.

They're not very good at anything, and because of that could likely be pushed WAY harder than onlookers expect. Soft, spongy, and flexible equates to oodles of grip after all.

they're pretty fucking heavy to be carting around a track - I've had a blat round Manfield and it was pretty hard work (when you're not used to it I guess)

after i got the blackbird i was looking after a mates RF while he was out of the country so I actually had both in the garage for a while - the RF was certainly a lot easier to shift but the bird is way more stable and predictable

you'd probably not be a big fan of the linked brakes I suspect...

Crasherfromwayback

5th August 2013, 15:57

you'd probably not be a big fan of the linked brakes I suspect...

I'd have to wonder why anybody would be!

yod

5th August 2013, 16:07

I'd have to wonder why anybody would be!

I don't mind them, don't really notice them, but you can certainly tell the difference between using just the lever and using the rear as well

but then i ain't braking all the way to an apex going around East Cape or along Route 52

VFR800 has 'em too but they're implemented slightly differently i think

Drew

5th August 2013, 17:05

you'd probably not be a big fan of the linked brakes I suspect...

I'd have to wonder why anybody would be!Didn't take Gardener long to shred the rear at the last Nissan Mobile 500 in Wellington.

Reckon I could have them fucked and the brakes working like I want by the start of qualifying.:crazy:

Stylo

5th August 2013, 18:34

Owns the car garage with the Kawasaki dealership :yes:

Ha not that small, 2pubs, 4square & a price cutter, hair dresser, chippy, chemist, ATS, Gold Pine, RD1, 2 engineering shops, resturant, panel beaters, 2 motorcycle shops, & 3 garages :niceone:

Read this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/37856-Here-s-one-for-us-old-fellas-to-drool-over?p=832475#post832475)

Same guy I think , he took me for a tour through one of his sheds off-site a few months back to show me his toys - very nice,

Back to the thread, the 'Busa is a good all rounder too. Even fully loaded ..

South of Waimate ...

T.W.R

6th August 2013, 01:13

Same guy I think , he took me for a tour through one of his sheds off-site a few months back to show me his toys - very nice,

Back to the thread, the 'Busa is a good all rounder too. Even fully loaded ..

South of Waimate ...

lol you saw the Hardley, the SS ute & the XBGT huh? been clocked at over 160mph that thing but when its taken out it's usually warm-up then kane it for a 5min drive then park up for another 8mths.

This was a nice Busa

Have had the pleasure of giving one a hell of fright at 230kph :laugh: 08 burnt orange/black model running yoshis & pc3; burst his bubble when he realised he was being given the hurry up by a 750 nearly 20yrs his junior :eek: funny what money spent in the right places can do :msn-wink:

Madness

6th August 2013, 09:48

unstuck

6th August 2013, 10:35

The fuel range on mine is already pretty average without 20lbs of boost...

Thats fucken nuts.:eek::Punk::Punk:

Big Dave

6th August 2013, 12:11

You can figure the VFR1200 into those Sport Tourer conversations too. It goes like a Busa for the first three quarters.

Gremlin

6th August 2013, 12:47

It goes like a Busa for the first three quarters.
I think half is more likely. Then it needs a fill. :rolleyes:

The Reibz

8th August 2013, 20:09

AllanB

8th August 2013, 20:45

You'd need to turbo it if you are that fat ..........

98tls

8th August 2013, 20:54

You'd need to turbo it if you are that fat ..........

:shutup:That aside theres no doubt the thing would be well quick in a straight line but even with the extended swingarm removed hows it going to be for anything bar a straight line?Would like to see some graphs re how/when the Turbo kicks in.Bloke on the TL forum that supercharged his TLS for the hill climb events got to 203 hp which was fucking amazing but after racing the thing he sold the motor and ended up racing a TL with bigger jugs and no charger.That said its horses for courses eh,that busa would be fucking quick.

The Reibz

8th August 2013, 21:03

:shutup:That aside theres no doubt the thing would be well quick in a straight line but even with the extended swingarm removed hows it going to be for anything bar a straight line?Would like to see some graphs re how/when the Turbo kicks in.Bloke on the TL forum that supercharged his TLS for the hill climb events got to 203 hp which was fucking amazing but after racing the thing he sold the motor and ended up racing a TL with bigger jugs and no charger.That said its horses for courses eh,that busa would be fucking quick.

You would most likely run a boost controller on the street and have it set to the wastegate spring pressure (6 - 8psi). Apparently you can still make 230 - 270hp at the wheel on the standard swingarm with a GT28 Garrett. There would not be a need for anymore boost on NZ roads, with the right sprocket combinations a setup like that would see you going well over 200mph IF you wanted to. I think the boost comes on at around 5500rpm on RCC kits but there are ones that can bring it as low as 3000rpm.

Idealy I would like a bike with bolt on extensions that can be taken to the track for LSR and Drags and then reverted back and the boost toned down for street use.

98tls

8th August 2013, 21:08

You would most likely run a boost controller on the street and have it set to the wastegate spring pressure (6 - 8psi). Apparently you can still make 230 - 270hp at the wheel on the standard swingarm with a GT28 Garrett. There would not be a need for anymore boost on NZ roads, with the right sprocket combinations a setup like that would see you going well over 200mph IF you wanted to. I think the boost comes on at around 5500rpm on RCC kits but there are ones that can bring it as low as 3000rpm.

Idealy I would like a bike with bolt on extensions that can be taken to the track for LSR and Drags and then reverted back and the boost toned down for street use.

Fair call mate,still scare the fuck outta me;)

skippa1

8th August 2013, 21:24

You'd need to turbo it if you are that fat ..........
I think you will find his BMI chart will indicate he is just a bit short for his weight....

The Reibz

8th August 2013, 21:26

I think you will find his BMI chart will indicate he is just a bit short for his weight....
No way that guy is massively over weight. 110kg max. But fuck that anyway.

Heres a real turbo busa...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/aFtVhpoLBFg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

skippa1

8th August 2013, 21:30

No way that guy is massively over weight. 110kg max. But fuck that anyway.

You reckon? .....hahaha....that was wasted on you wasn't it

AllanB

8th August 2013, 21:32

7.38 that's faster than my Hornet ....................

Maybe I should extend the swingarm :-)

The Reibz

8th August 2013, 21:34

7.38 that's faster than my Hornet ....................

Maybe I should extend the swingarm :-)

Just add turbo, $30,000ish and a shitload of R&D lol

AllanB

8th August 2013, 21:37

There was a turbo one on a US forum - lots of R&D required as he kept popping internal bits. Home made set up wound up way too high was the verdict.

I do wonder why we do not see more supercharging on motorcycles - strikes me as a fairly easy way of adding power. I have seen a VTR 1000 kit on the net - shit that would be cool.

carburator

8th August 2013, 21:43

No way that guy is massively over weight. 110kg max. But fuck that anyway.

Heres a real turbo busa...

think you might find that's a 1/8mile track, not a 1/4 mile one..

The Reibz

8th August 2013, 21:49

I do wonder why we do not see more supercharging on motorcycles - strikes me as a fairly easy way of adding power. I have seen a VTR 1000 kit on the net - shit that would be cool.

Very hard to DIY a supercharger for a motorcycle, and most of the right hand fairing needs to be removed on a sportsbike. Kits would definitely be the way to go. My brother just installed a Twinscrew Eaton on a 1.6L 4AGZE Toyota. Things sounds fucken insane and it does stand out from all the turbos on the ricer scene. I welded the majority of the mounts and plumbing for it and it was a bit of a nightmare getting everthing to fit but the result is a cool 300HP+

Turbos are easy for the DIY Guru but chargers are definitely the way to go if you want to standout

http://www.bigccracing.com/userfiles/image/DSC00062.JPG

think you might find that's a 1/8mile track, not a 1/4 mile one..
Highly fucking skeptical of this statement considering 199mph was achieved...

Ender EnZed

8th August 2013, 22:06

think you might find that's a 1/8mile track, not a 1/4 mile one..

0-199 mph in 1/8 of a mile? Now that's impressive.

AllanB

8th August 2013, 23:15

I see your Busa and raise you a ......

Kornholio

8th August 2013, 23:23

I see your Busa and raise you a ......

Cool the Picnic Edition with inbuilt BBQ and serving table

onearmedbandit

9th August 2013, 02:56

think you might find that's a 1/8mile track, not a 1/4 mile one..

Think you might be very wrong.

unstuck

9th August 2013, 06:24

No way that guy is massively over weight. 110kg max. But fuck that anyway.

Heres a real turbo busa...

Oi cunt, that thing would win best float at the gay mardi gras.:motu:

Drew

9th August 2013, 07:11

There are a couple of turbo GSXR thous getting around New Zealand. Both are smooth and very rideable by all accounts. They come up on boost in such a linear fashion it's just like riding a normal one...faster.

Normal gixxer till 5k, then stars to become insane gixxer without you knowing it's even happened.

mossy1200

9th August 2013, 07:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFmoLZQSHs

The Reibz

9th August 2013, 09:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFmoLZQSHs

Fuarkkkk. Listen to that wastegate. Choice video, thanks for sharing.

mulletman

9th August 2013, 09:28

turtleman

9th August 2013, 11:39

think you might find that's a 1/8mile track, not a 1/4 mile one..

"US 131 Motorsports Park in Martin, Michigan has been a legendary 1/4 mile dragstrip since its construction in 1962. Originally known as Martin Dragway, the track underwent a complete 14 million dollar renovation and reopened in the spring of 2002. The Motorsports Park offers first class accommodations to all visitors."

http://www.us131msp.com/track-info

98tls

9th August 2013, 12:33

Very hard to DIY a supercharger for a motorcycle, and most of the right hand fairing needs to be removed on a sportsbike. Kits would definitely be the way to go. My brother just installed a Twinscrew Eaton on a 1.6L 4AGZE Toyota. Things sounds fucken insane and it does stand out from all the turbos on the ricer scene. I welded the majority of the mounts and plumbing for it and it was a bit of a nightmare getting everthing to fit but the result is a cool 300HP+

Turbos are easy for the DIY Guru but chargers are definitely the way to go if you want to standout

Heres a pic of Sams TL,did the whole thing himself,clever bugger....Got some onboard clips of it somewhere,sounds awesome and the front wheel justs keeps coming up no matter what gear.As i said earlier he ended up selling the whole motor as it just didnt work for the short hill climb courses he was using it for.

The Reibz

9th August 2013, 16:37

That is one slick looking machine.
Ran into Mark from Kolorin Kustoms down at supercheapauto today, tells me his brother races busa's over on the salt flats in aussie. Might have to pop into his shop next week and try and get some more info.

Madness

9th August 2013, 22:06

Dunno if this has been posted, can't be arsed looking.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-623058257.htm

actungbaby

10th August 2013, 14:46

Stroudy overtook me when I was riding a Busa around Hampton downs. He was on a Mackintosh Norton 500.

He be able overtake me on a vespa

No shame there he class act and had lots of practice main thing got around safetly to you and the others on the track well done

Think looks clouded by preceptions arent they the busa looks good to me because am told they are good.

Always thought 750 be waste of time for me but like the extra power for sure.

Am very doubtfull 1000cc though but who know til you tryed

The Reibz

10th August 2013, 20:01

Dunno if this has been posted, can't be arsed looking.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-623058257.htm

Yeah seen that one floating around on trademe for a while now. 14k is a pretty fair price seeming 12k seems to be a pretty standard price for a GEN2 busa these days.
Those chrome indicator covers would have to go though. IMO they ruin the front end of the bike

sinned

16th August 2013, 10:12

The Busa has more than enough power for me, in fact I would still rate it as an exellent all round road bike if it had 20% less power and a rev limiter at 8k. Turbo for street use is just insane. The problem with the busa is how to have fun in the gears when the change point from 2nd to 3rd is 180+Ks - from there on it is madness. I have missed playing in the gears on the Speed Triple (previous bike).

Not talking about top speed mate. They're all limited to 300kph anyway. I'm talking about sheer butt clenching acceleration. My cheekometer tells me a Busa will smoke a GSXR1000. You ridden a gen II Busa in anger?
It never fails to impress me and at 8000rpm + WOT - scarey.

Personally what I find frustrating about the hyperbikes is that they aren't very good for tall guys - and there are plenty of us.

You'd think 'big bike - bit of room' - but peg to seat height is the same as a supersports.
Not being a big fella the Busa fits me like a glove - but legs are too short for a decent Adventure bike. Choices are generally better for the longer legged.

Why don't manufacturers design more adjustments, seat height, peg position and bars, for different body sizes? Harley D cater well for changes in bars - that is easy to do with a cruiser.

The busa is a keeper - for its any distance, any weathers, and load capability. Never have I thought - "I could do with more power??".

Big Dave

16th August 2013, 16:55

Choices are generally better for the longer legged.

Nah - they ain't any more.

Adventure and off road bikes. That's about it. And that's because of suspension travel.

Otherwise the manufacturers have looked to increase their markets by designing for women and shorties as well.

At least H-D offer a tall boy saddle - for an extra $3 hundy. But that would be a good start for all of them now.

mossy1200

16th August 2013, 17:55

Found a site for hard core zx1441r drag riders doing 8s. Some nice turbo builds.

http://zx1441r.com/forum/index.php

BMWST?

16th August 2013, 17:59

Whoever put the micron setup on mine saved a fortune of weight - the factory set (cans and headers) came with the bike and they weighed a fucking ton!

The Busa is basically off my shopping list (ha! that's WINDOW shopping list) because the arse looks like it's starting to melt - if they changed the styling I might be interested, but then, it wouldn't be a Busa :msn-wink:

Anyone tried a K1300S? They're supposed to be fairly rapid...

quick but i dont think they are thou or hyper quick,the quick shift is cool tho

BMWST?

16th August 2013, 18:04

mossy1200

16th August 2013, 18:13

shit i been thinking about a busa ...

Im 6.3 and the zx14r fits like a glove. more hp also.

Its bottom looks good also(I think).

BMWST?

16th August 2013, 18:19

Either way, the cunt couldn't ride his way out of a paper bag soaked in custard. The riding got worse as the video went on.

Back on topic. Anyone want to trade a ZX12-R for a KTM 950/990? Hyperbike ownership aint much fun on 85 points.

i think you will find a 950 or 990 is more rewarding so your points will be in even more danger

Ender EnZed

16th August 2013, 18:21

A VFR1200 offers similar power until it runs out of petrol. They look like they'd fit bigger folk than the Busa/ZX14 but I've never actually sat on one.

kiwi cowboy

16th August 2013, 18:34

Fuck you, Im REAL good at being a cunt.:finger:

:msn-wink:i will vouch for that:not::not::not::devil2::wings:

Big Dave

16th August 2013, 18:34

A VFR1200 offers similar power until it runs out of petrol. They look like they'd fit bigger folk than the Busa/ZX14 but I've never actually sat on one.

That runs out of petrol thing is internet hype. The bike doesn't have great fuel range - but I still got far enough on it to want a break and leg stretch before it ran dry.
Neither does that wreck an excellent sports bike that is as mellow as the Busa when required too.

Its seems more roomy than either the Hyabusa, ZX14 or Blackbird. I found the VFR OK, while the Blackbird is uncomfortable.

BMWST?

16th August 2013, 18:39

Im 6.3 and the zx14r fits like a glove. more hp also.

Its bottom looks good also(I think).

the front looks very heavy looking,tho the busa is not exactly lacking in this regard

Big Dave

16th August 2013, 18:41

Im 6.3 and the zx14r fits like a glove. more hp also.

Its bottom looks good also(I think).

I'm 6'5 and the ZX14 saddle/peg is too low.

The Concors 14 is outstandingly comfy howeva and for all intents for street use is just as quick.

nzspokes

16th August 2013, 18:50

That runs out of petrol thing is internet hype. The bike doesn't have great fuel range - but I still got far enough on it to want a break and leg stretch before it ran dry.
Neither does that wreck an excellent sports bike that is as mellow as the Busa when required too.

Its seems more roomy than either the Hyabusa, ZX14 or Blackbird. I found the VFR OK, while the Blackbird is uncomfortable.

Agreed. Ive sat on a Busa and a ZX14 and was to cramped. VFR was spot on.

I like the VFR and may well own one in the future. Probably in silver.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-304883321.htm

98tls

16th August 2013, 18:57

the front looks very heavy looking,tho the busa is not exactly lacking in this regard

Tis the front guard on the Busa that looks hideous,ive had a look for aftermarket guards but sadly there just as hideous...

BMWST?

16th August 2013, 19:17

Tis the front guard on the Busa that looks hideous,ive had a look for aftermarket guards but sadly there just as hideous...

and the slightly drooping headlight cowl.I am sure the torque would seduce me

98tls

16th August 2013, 19:22

and the slightly drooping headlight cowl.I am sure the torque would seduce me

No doubt,some say that fat chicks are an awesome ride...

Stylo

16th August 2013, 19:25

I'm 6'5 and the ZX14 saddle/peg is too low.

The Concors 14 is outstandingly comfy howeva and for all intents for street use is just as quick.

Raised the bars with an aftermarket riser ( 5cms) on my '11 Busa, also dropped the pegs courtesy of a set of Buell pegs I was given, bolts straight on and makes all the difference and a better stretch at 5'10 on my third Hayabusa ( Had an 06, 09 and now 11 Gen 2 ). I can ride all day ...

Have to agree probably still not as comfy as a Concours but closing in .

And a bit quicker than a Concours too but that's not the discussion here , aye..

:shifty:

Big Dave

16th August 2013, 19:28

I found all of the bikes reasonably attractive to photograph.

I think the Busa is a bit primal, maybe that's because I have pinned one.

I like the ZX14's sci fi - that bank of lights is straight out of Alien or that one where Bruce Willis destroys the asteroid. It goes to warp speed too Captain. Never wrapped one fully out though.

I like the VFR1200's high tekken-ness, and the way it sports. I gave one the bizzo at Hampton and they rawk fine.

And also consider the best of the surgers for sheer pull is still the V-max. Hasn't got clearance of the others but it sure gets between the corners quick. I could live with its looks. Mechano on roids.

Good for the larger gentleman too.

Richard Mc F

16th August 2013, 21:21

I found all of the bikes reasonably attractive to photograph.

And also consider the best of the surgers for sheer pull is still the V-max. Hasn't got clearance of the others but it sure gets between the corners quick. I could live with its looks. Mechano on roids.

Good for the larger gentleman too.

I have followed a customer round Hampton on a track day while he rode the Max .......not flash in the corners but blinding acceleration and BIG BLACK LINES

And yeah VFR1200's can, yess indeeed

mossy1200

16th August 2013, 22:00

vfr1200

1237cc, 76-degree V-Four. Our bike produced 145.08 horsepower at 10,110 rpm and 81.17 foot-pounds of torque at 9120 rpm.

zx14r

192 rear-wheel horsepower, accompanied by an astounding 113 foot-pounds of torque

Busa

Horsepower was a real 160 hp at the wheel, torque an amazing 99 foot-pounds this is the Gen1 results. Gen2 has claimed 194 at crank so expect 180-185 rear wheel.

All done by Cycle works rear wheel results with no ram ducting.

Handling the vfr would be ok but its performance is only concours levels.

K1300s --1293cc inline-Four. The engine yields a claimed 175 hp at crank.

As far as hyperbikes go there is really only zx and busa. They needed to invent a class for them because existing classes didn't match the bikes.

Big Dave

16th August 2013, 22:20

I had a quick strop on a HP2 K1300. It's up there. As you would expect for the carbon and unobtainium price.

nzspokes

17th August 2013, 07:56