Reasons to be cheerful [Archive] - Page 2

Scuba_Steve

15th April 2015, 22:46

One megawatt battery packs!

Speaking of batteries I see they're working on aluminium-ion batts, capable of a 1min dead-full charge @ a cheaper price & less volatile than Lithium-ion.
It doesn't explode even if drilled through, has far greater life cycle & can be bent & folded. Still couple kinks like it only does 2.25v, short of the Li-ion 3.6v & power to weight is down on Li-ion but it's looking promising

Akzle

16th April 2015, 01:05

Speaking of batteries I see they're working on aluminium-ion batts, capable of a 1min dead-full charge @ a cheaper price & less volatile than Lithium-ion.
It doesn't explode even if drilled through, has far greater life cycle & can be bent & folded. Still couple kinks like it only does 2.25v, short of the Li-ion 3.6v & power to weight is down on Li-ion but it's looking promising

perfec for 12v batt bank...

Ocean1

25th April 2015, 08:54

You lot need to try harder. :yes:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/nz/68022386/new-zealand-ranked-9th-in-world-for-happiness

Berries

25th April 2015, 09:02

Iceland number 2?

How long ago was it that Reykjavik was the suicide capital of the world?

ellipsis

25th April 2015, 09:07

...I decided that it was time to hang up the leathers, so to soften the full impact of this on my overall psyche...I bought myself the guitar I have wanted for the last 40 years and a new rig to run it through...I am now the very extremely, over the moon, cheerful owner of a Rickenbacker bass and two 15 inch speakers with a Galleon Kreuger 400w head....

Ocean1

25th April 2015, 09:23

Iceland number 2?

How long ago was it that Reykjavik was the suicide capital of the world?

So the process there worked.

We could start here with some of the inhabitants of Stupid World...

mashman

25th April 2015, 09:26

mashman

25th April 2015, 09:27

So the process there worked.

We could start here with some of the inhabitants of Stupid World...

How noble of you.

Akzle

25th April 2015, 10:44

whores .

unstuck

25th April 2015, 10:56

whores .

https://firnecast.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/134firnecast.gif?w=672&h=372&crop=1

Akzle

25th April 2015, 11:23

[IMG]

i'm too fucken hungover to be a smart arse about it.

something about your mother. or that you have that pic as your computer's background.

fuckit :yawn: :sleep:

mashman

27th May 2015, 14:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cgQNUhtmHM

HenryDorsetCase

27th May 2015, 21:40

HenryDorsetCase

27th May 2015, 21:41

New job is great. Still kinda adjusting a bit, but yeah. Happy. I did walk away from potentially quite a bit of money at the old one. but yeah nah.

Scuba_Steve

27th May 2015, 22:07

It's old, but it's new to me... Wood welding :Punk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0k04hjdYuQ

husaberg

27th May 2015, 23:34

You lot need to try harder. :yes:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/nz/68022386/new-zealand-ranked-9th-in-world-for-happiness

Why Norway is so happy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536424/Everyone-Norway-millionaire.html
http://www.lifeinnorway.net/2013/03/have-the-norwegians-got-it-right
It is also one of the most socialist countries in the world.
There is a very small difference between the rich and the poor.
They have tax laws that make rich people and corporations pay a lot of tax on their profits.:bleh:

Norway is one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world with a total tax burden of roughly 45% of GDP– almost 4x Hong Kong and nearly twice the US.

VAT here is a whopping 25%. Personal income tax rates border 55%. Corporate profits tax ranges from 28% to as high as 78%. Norway even has a direct WEALTH TAX.

The Norwegian tax authority’s own website even states, “The Norwegian tax system is based on the principle that everybody should pay tax according to their means and receive services according to their needs.”

TheDemonLord

28th May 2015, 08:05

Why Norway is so happy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536424/Everyone-Norway-millionaire.html
http://www.lifeinnorway.net/2013/03/have-the-norwegians-got-it-right
It is also one of the most socialist countries in the world.
There is a very small difference between the rich and the poor.
They have tax laws that make rich people and corporations pay a lot of tax on their profits.:bleh:

The answer isn't any of those - it is Obviously because Norway invented Black metal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXYX2bVzejE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX7QTv_Zvpo

Ocean1

28th May 2015, 08:12

New job is great. Still kinda adjusting a bit, but yeah. Happy. I did walk away from potentially quite a bit of money at the old one. but yeah nah.

Good result, there's not much point screwing yourself up for what amounts to fuck all real improvement in life quality.

Ocean1

28th May 2015, 08:22

Why Norway is so happy.

It is also one of the most socialist countries in the world.
There is a very small difference between the rich and the poor.
They have tax laws that make rich people and corporations pay a lot of tax on their profits.:bleh:

They do tax those that work harder and longer more than most, but the reason they still have those high income taxpayers is they don't discriminate as much wrt spending. They spend hugely on free health, education and infrastructure that benefits everyone, not just the "poor".

You don't get the ridiculous situation we have here where the middle income majority is taxed so highly that they need subsidies to survive.

husaberg

28th May 2015, 09:15

They do tax those that work harder and longer more than most, but the reason they still have those high income taxpayers is they don't discriminate as much wrt spending. They spend hugely on free health, education and infrastructure that benefits everyone, not just the "poor".

You don't get the ridiculous situation we have here where the middle income majority is taxed so highly that they need subsidies to survive.

Careful that sounds almost socialist there comrade Ocean lol.
Yet it is still utopic...........
They tax the corporations and rich so highly, yet they still thrive.
They have a huge public service and public ownership of infrastructure and they are not bankrupt.
Should someone tell John Key?

TheDemonLord

28th May 2015, 09:29

husaberg

28th May 2015, 09:30

Just as an aside - the Norwegian system couldn't work here - because we don't have the Norwegian mind set
Lack of the metal?

mashman

28th May 2015, 09:31

Lack of the metal?

Lack of mental judging by his response.

TheDemonLord

28th May 2015, 09:33

Lack of the metal?

Well, Lack of Black metal certainly - but there is a national culture in Norway that allows such policies to work - a culture that we simply don't have over here.

husaberg

28th May 2015, 10:14

Lack of mental judging by his response.
Whose?............

mashman

28th May 2015, 10:48

Whose?............

Duh, ours:

because we don't have the Norwegian mind set

bogan

28th May 2015, 11:01

That the people are taking space flight seriously and funding it themselves. Through bill-motherfucking-nye.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theplanetarysociety/lightsail-a-revolutionary-solar-sailing-spacecraft

husaberg

28th May 2015, 11:24

Duh, ours:

I found this it turns out we can all be citizens of part of Norway, but pay less tax than the other parts, we can also exploit it natural resources.
This is really odd. I had never heard of it anyway.

Svalbard. People living on Svalbard (Spitsbergen) pay reduced taxes due to "Svalbardtraktaten".(New Zealand December 29, 1923 is a signatory)

Svalbard is part of Norway: Svalbard is completely controlled by and forms part of the Kingdom of Norway. However, Norway's power over Svalbard is restricted by the limitations listed below:
•Taxation: This allows taxes to be collected, but only enough to support Svalbard and the Svalbard government. This results in lower taxes than mainland Norway and the exclusion of any taxes on Svalbard supporting Norway directly. Also, Svalbard's revenues and expenses are separately budgeted from mainland Norway.
•Environmental conservation: Norway must respect and preserve the Svalbard environment.
•Non-discrimination: All citizens and all companies of every nation under the treaty are allowed to become residents and to have access to Svalbard including the right to fish, hunt or undertake any kind of maritime, industrial, mining or trade activity. The residents of Svalbard must follow Norwegian law though Norwegian authority cannot discriminate against or favor any residents of any given nationality.
http://www.nhm.uio.no/english/research/arctic/min-geo/min-res-1.html

Is it wong to rape and pillage Norway..lol

TheDemonLord

28th May 2015, 11:26

I found this it turns out we can all be citizens of part of Norway, but pay less tax than the other parts, we can also exploit it natural resources.
This is really odd. I had never heard of it anyway.

Svalbard. People living on Svalbard (Spitsbergen) pay reduced taxes due to "Svalbardtraktaten".(New Zealand December 29, 1923 is a signatory)

Svalbard is part of Norway: Svalbard is completely controlled by and forms part of the Kingdom of Norway. However, Norway's power over Svalbard is restricted by the limitations listed below:
•Taxation: This allows taxes to be collected, but only enough to support Svalbard and the Svalbard government. This results in lower taxes than mainland Norway and the exclusion of any taxes on Svalbard supporting Norway directly. Also, Svalbard's revenues and expenses are separately budgeted from mainland Norway.
•Environmental conservation: Norway must respect and preserve the Svalbard environment.
•Non-discrimination: All citizens and all companies of every nation under the treaty are allowed to become residents and to have access to Svalbard including the right to fish, hunt or undertake any kind of maritime, industrial, mining or trade activity. The residents of Svalbard must follow Norwegian law though Norwegian authority cannot discriminate against or favor any residents of any given nationality.
http://www.nhm.uio.no/english/research/arctic/min-geo/min-res-1.html

Is it wong to rape and pillage Norway..lol

Go to Svalbard
Listen to Black Metal
Be a Troll
Pay Less Tax
Win at Life.

husaberg

28th May 2015, 11:35

Go to Svalbard
Listen to Black Metal
Be a Troll
Pay Less Tax
Win at Life.

I was only half joking, I wonder what does reindeer taste like though.
Its also not as cold as a lot of other polar places.
Definitely seems like an interesting place though.
The Norwegians have been drilling for Gold if it is anything like the other areas it should have huge mineral reserves.
ps the troll was a bit harsh. I was only winding up Ocean in a nice way.

Ocean1

28th May 2015, 11:47

Careful that sounds almost socialist there comrade Ocean lol.
Yet it is still utopic...........
They tax the corporations and rich so highly, yet they still thrive.
They have a huge public service and public ownership of infrastructure and they are not bankrupt.
Should someone tell John Key?

I have no problem with public ownership of service providers and infrastructure that benefits the whole community.

Just with a toxic environment caused by a tax system that double-dips the "redistribution" machinery by not only taxing high earners stupidly more than low earners but then denies high earners access to those same services and assets.

The Scandinavians have it the right way around: community expectations of acceptable individual productive behaviour THEN share the results evenly. Without the productive behaviour there's not actually anything left to "share".

Bikemad

28th May 2015, 11:59

only 12 hours till liftoff..........IOM.......here we come:banana::headbang:

husaberg

28th May 2015, 12:00

I have no problem with public ownership of service providers and infrastructure that benefits the whole community.

Just with a toxic environment caused by a tax system that double-dips the "redistribution" machinery by not only taxing high earners stupidly more than low earners but then denies high earners access to those same services and assets.

The Scandinavians have it the right way around: community expectations of acceptable individual productive behaviour THEN share the results evenly. Without the productive behaviour there's not actually anything left to "share".

I was more meaning the heavy taxing of the Corporations.
I note also they do tax the high earner heavily.
They also own the smelters the gas and oil companies the power companies the mineral companies all the stuff we seem hell bent on selling off.
Supposedly if you want to see a ghost town have a look at an office at 4.01pm there will be no one there. food for thought........

mashman

28th May 2015, 12:26

Is it wong to rape and pillage Norway..lol

I'm sure jk can legalise it for you if you can demonstrate a decent ROI <_<

husaberg

28th May 2015, 12:42

I'm sure jk can legalise it for you if you can demonstrate a decent ROI <_<

It is legal to pillage it (in a environmental friendly way of course.)
its a bloody odd set up.

mashman

28th May 2015, 12:47

It is legal to pillage it (in a environmental friendly way of course.)
its a bloody odd set up.

Shame I don't speak Norwegian. Yeah yeah, I can barely manage English :D
It's not that odd when you consider that the European Parliament has certain legislative jurisdiction in their member states.

husaberg

28th May 2015, 12:49

Shame I don't speak Norwegian. Yeah yeah, I can barely manage English :D
It's not that odd when you consider that the European Parliament has certain legislative jurisdiction in their member states.

Norway is not part of the EU I think......
The only words you need to know is "Cold" although they likely have a hundred or so words for it.

Norway and the EU enjoy good and close relations, although Norway is not a member of the European Union. The Agreement on the European Economic Area (EEA) is the mainstay of our cooperation, and it ensures that Norway takes part in the EU internal market. We are also part of the Schengen Agreement and cooperate with the EU on foreign and security policy issues.

TheDemonLord

28th May 2015, 12:55

Scuba_Steve

28th May 2015, 12:58

Don't worry - every Norwegian I have ever met speaks perfect english (Seriously - fantastic English!)

Well they do write something like 80% of the western worlds "pop songs"

mashman

28th May 2015, 13:15

Norway is not part of the EU I think......
The only words you need to know is "Cold" although they likely have a hundred or so words for it.

Wasn't saying it was, I was just drawing a familiar parallel where you were saying such an arrangement seemed odd.
"imponerende brystvorter" might be good to know too :innocent:

husaberg

28th May 2015, 14:18

Wasn't saying it was, I was just drawing a familiar parallel where you were saying such an arrangement seemed odd.
"imponerende brystvorter" might be good to know too :innocent:

Mashy What I was referring to as being odd was the treaty that lets us use the resources with special privileges.

mashman

28th May 2015, 14:29

Mashy What I was referring to as being odd was the treaty that lets us use the resources with special privileges.

I thought you were. Those special privileges are bound by local law though.

husaberg

28th May 2015, 17:46

I thought you were. Those special privileges are bound by local law though.

Yeah but the foreigners rights are the same have a look.

mashman

28th May 2015, 18:03

Yeah but the foreigners rights are the same have a look.

In the EU, some foreigners have more than the same rights as those who are EU natives. So it's pretty poor really :laugh:

husaberg

28th May 2015, 18:18

In the EU, some foreigners have more than the same rights as those who are EU natives. So it's pretty poor really :laugh:

I wish I was a Rich Saudi Farmer cause I feel pretty ripped off myself.........

caseye

28th May 2015, 18:48

well, yesterday my work gave us all 3% more in our pay packet. Not the most amazing news on the planet, but 3 is twice the cpi, so I'm bloody ecstatic.
These are employers of long standing, whose workers are all bloody good at what they do and actually do a days work for their crust.
Looking forward to a long career here.
Happy? Oh yeah.

mashman

28th May 2015, 19:48

I wish I was a Rich Saudi Farmer cause I feel pretty ripped off myself.........

"Trade Partner".

husaberg

28th May 2015, 20:09

"Trade Partner".

Partner all right, I know who is leading the dance, plus who is on the receiving end of the tryst.

Akzle

28th May 2015, 20:15

yesterday my employer gave me a box of bourbons, a mingy prison joint and a handjob.

but i've had 20 days off so can't be too fussy.

well, yesterday my work gave us all 3% more in our pay packet. Not the most amazing news on the planet, but 3 is twice the cpi, so I'm bloody ecstatic.
These are employers of long standing, whose workers are all bloody good at what they do and actually do a days work for their crust.
Looking forward to a long career here.
Happy? Oh yeah.

mashman

28th May 2015, 20:30

Partner all right, I know you is leading the dance and who is on the receiving end of the tryst.

WTF tryst, dance?

husaberg

28th May 2015, 20:39

WTF tryst, dance?
Leading the dance and getting fucked by your partner......<_<

mashman

28th May 2015, 20:53

Leading the dance and getting fucked by your partner......<_<

It's a small price to pay for the potential access to a new market. Apparently there'll be a benefit of some sort.

husaberg

28th May 2015, 21:06

It's a small price to pay for the potential access to a new market. Apparently there'll be a benefit of some sort.

Didn't we already have access anyway? They used to buy our sheep or sheep products after all, and in return we would pay what ever exorbitant prices to their oil cartel decided.........

mashman

28th May 2015, 21:24

Didn't we already have access anyway? They used to buy our sheep or sheep products after all, and in return we would pay what ever exorbitant prices to there oil cartel decided.........

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. But hey, cheerful = it's better than war.

Ocean1

1st July 2015, 20:42

bogan

1st July 2015, 20:47

Fucking excellent:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/69859442/rocket-lab-eyes-birdlings-flat-canterbury-as-launch-site

The usual green anti-science background noise but, fuck: Rockets! Here! Extremely cool!

Mint, I thought we were too far at the arse of the world for economical launches, but I guess not launching for the ecliptic makes other sites viable and preferable.

ellipsis

1st July 2015, 20:48

Fucking excellent:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/69859442/rocket-lab-eyes-birdlings-flat-canterbury-as-launch-site

The usual green anti-science background noise but, fuck: Rockets! Here! Extremely cool!

...and only a few minutes drive to the top of my hill:niceone: to get a view down onto that site...certainly reasons to be cheerful...the news didn't actually report that it has been a bombing range and associated military blowing up of things place for...well forever...:niceone:

husaberg

1st July 2015, 20:50

Read on the web today that a person from Northland is under investigation for bestiality made me laugh...............

Ocean1

1st July 2015, 20:52

Mint, I thought we were too far at the arse of the world for economical launches, but I guess not launching for the ecliptic makes other sites viable and preferable.

Low orbit stuff, nowhere near geosync heights, so I guess it counts that we're on a significantly different path than the existing sites. Certainly can't hurt that their prices are an order of magnitude lower than the competition...

Ocean1

1st July 2015, 20:55

...the news didn't actually report that it has been a bombing range and associated military blowing up of things place for...well forever...:niceone:

Must have been what caused all those rare lesser bloated blue-tonged stumpy tailed warty backed lizards suddenly in danger of excess publicity via greenpeace.

Oakie

1st July 2015, 22:38

Rockets! That would be so cool to watch. Perhaps they could sell tickets.

In other news that makes me cheerful ... there's a buzz that a 'Hooters' will be opening in Christchurch. Now that's a place that'd I'd love to be the Recruitment Officer for. "I'll need to see your qualifications ma'am". (Best you're envious of my HR job now huh!)

Banditbandit

2nd July 2015, 10:55

Didn't we already have access anyway? They used to buy our sheep or sheep products after all, and in return we would pay what ever exorbitant prices to their oil cartel decided.........

Yeah .. we did sell them our sheep products .. then we started selling them breeding sheep so they could grow their own and not need to buy ours ... Dumb Dumb Dumb ..

Fucking excellent:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/69859442/rocket-lab-eyes-birdlings-flat-canterbury-as-launch-site

The usual green anti-science background noise but, fuck: Rockets! Here! Extremely cool!

Yeah - I thought that was cool - I'm intrigued by the electron motor ...

Grumph

2nd July 2015, 14:25

...and only a few minutes drive to the top of my hill:niceone: to get a view down onto that site...certainly reasons to be cheerful...the news didn't actually report that it has been a bombing range and associated military blowing up of things place for...well forever...:niceone:

I'm unclear whether it's in Selwyn or fringe ChCh city. If it's Selwyn as i suspect, there'll be some bloody big hoops to go through.
i note one of the locals seen on TV3 news was a well known brit/vintage bike parts trader - did not know he lived over there...

ellipsis

2nd July 2015, 14:52

I'm unclear whether it's in Selwyn or fringe ChCh city. If it's Selwyn as i suspect, there'll be some bloody big hoops to go through.
i note one of the locals seen on TV3 news was a well known brit/vintage bike parts trader - did not know he lived over there...

...I stay away from the inhabitants down that way...they are about as rare and precious as the three toed sloth snail and the one eyed kumera snakes...I have collected a few remnants of mortar and aerial type armaments that have been dropped or shot there...much more interesting than fossicking for agates...

Paul in NZ

2nd July 2015, 15:31

ellipsis

4th July 2015, 10:00

...had an invite down to the proposed launch site for our space venture...a bit of PR for the locals...I'm taking Buzz Lightyear who lives on top of my drill press in the shed, down for a look...

frogfeaturesFZR

4th July 2015, 11:39

...had an invite down to the proposed launch site for our space venture...a bit of PR for the locals...I'm taking Buzz Lightyear who lives on top of my drill press in the shed, down for a look...

To Infinity, and beyond !

Sorry, just had to.........

Grumph

4th July 2015, 13:33

...had an invite down to the proposed launch site for our space venture...a bit of PR for the locals...I'm taking Buzz Lightyear who lives on top of my drill press in the shed, down for a look...

If they want a local as a test pilot, volounteer Denis Raymond will you please....that would make me at least very cheerful.

ellipsis

4th July 2015, 14:05

...he'd want one adapted, so as to drop off a long line somewhere near the horizon...

puddytat

4th July 2015, 18:49

Went out for a blat in the forestry......got muddy, did skids, pulled wheelies & did donuts round the forestry gear just so they know I was there......

Oh, & didn't crash.

Oakie

4th July 2015, 20:26

Highlanders lead the Hurricanes at half time. That makes me cheerful.

frogfeaturesFZR

4th July 2015, 21:51

Highlanders lead the Hurricanes at half time. That makes me cheerful.

Lead at fulltime too:shit:

Grumph

5th July 2015, 07:02

Highlanders lead the Hurricanes at half time. That makes me cheerful.

Listening to the Norf island based media this morning having to eat their predictions will make me very happy.....

I can imagine what it's like for the Lander army as i was in Auckland when the Crusaders beat the Blues for the title. The guy who carried the tape of the Crusader music was on our flight into Chch so we landed to a suitable sound track. Epic.

unstuck

5th July 2015, 09:08

I am ALIVE. The sun is shining. The earth is still spinning in it's orbit. I have no interest in rugby. Damn it is great to be alive. Oh, and I spent 3 days in the mountains and never saw another soul.:Punk::Punk:

Moi

5th July 2015, 09:52

ellipsis

5th July 2015, 10:58

...I would like to have seen the Hurricanes take it but the Highlanders were dominant...I suppose I should be happy that a South Island team won...I suppose I am...a reason to be cheerful...

frogfeaturesFZR

5th July 2015, 13:45

ellipsis

5th July 2015, 18:25

...I did...

JATZ

15th July 2015, 18:43

Bacon :D .....

swtfa

15th July 2015, 21:43

A hot bubble bath - serenity - bliss :love:

98tls

15th July 2015, 21:55

Currently laid off for a month due to stock shortage which sucked until this evening rung and offered a job on the maintenance side of things paying $3.50 an hour more,all year round and i get to fuck around fixing shit...:niceone:

mashman

15th July 2015, 21:58

Got tomorrow off with the girls.

Laava

15th July 2015, 22:00

Got tomorrow off with the girls.

Mufti day?

husaberg

15th July 2015, 22:01

Got tomorrow off with the girls.

Mufti day?

Axholes at home with the kids too.

mashman

15th July 2015, 22:09

Mufti day?

I don't dress up much for work, but the baggy jeans will be traded for the baggy joggers lol.

Axholes at home with the kids too.

Lucky bugga.

husaberg

15th July 2015, 22:13

Lucky bugga.
Bugger is an adjective that is descriptively rather apt.

unstuck

16th July 2015, 09:53

But did you see any deer ?:shit:

No, just lots of sign. I was not in stealth mode.:msn-wink:

Reasons to be cheerful.............The sun came up, the planets are still spinning in close proximity to other planets, without crashing, air is still free and freely available. And I CHOOSE to be cheerful.:banana::banana:

Moi

16th July 2015, 10:44

Bacon butties for dinner last night...

Moi

16th July 2015, 11:47

Tickets for the Kaffeefahrt on the Kaiserwagen have arrived...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hawOFa2AjU

Askor

16th July 2015, 18:52

I have pizza, motorcycles in the garage, and I'm off the drugs from my surgery. Feeling cheerful

TheDemonLord

16th July 2015, 21:35

I took the Courtesy Hyobag bike from the bike shop back (it was horrible to ride) and got my Hayabusa back after a service.

I have a bike that Brakes when I touch the Brake lever, Has a Throttle that is connected to the engine, Horsepowers to make me go zoom and 1340 cc worth of being able to go up a motorway hill without having to wind the throttle to the stop.

Ocean1

27th July 2015, 21:09

"Our analysis shows that New Zealand had the third highest level of Material Wellbeing across 40 counties, including all OECD
countries, just behind the United States and Canada but ahead of Australia and all high-income Scandinavian
countries."

http://www.motu.org.nz/assets/Documents/our-work/wellbeing-and-macroeconomics/well-being-and-sustainability-measures/Motu-Note-21-Material-Wellbeing-of-NZ-Households.pdf

:Punk::Punk::Punk:

Makes all the whining look kinda pathetic, don't it?

sidecar bob

28th July 2015, 08:25

TheDemonLord

28th July 2015, 09:22

Next time you could take a pair of comfortable shoes & a bus pass when you get your bike serviced.

Probably would have been quicker than the HyoBag.

oldrider

28th July 2015, 10:13

Our power bill with Meridian was only $151.72 for this month - considering the average weather :cold: - that has to be a reason to be cheerful = value IMHO. :wings:

Blackbird

28th July 2015, 11:15

Our 43rd wedding anniversary tomorrow - still can't believe what my wife saw in me all those years ago, just quietly grateful:laugh:

ellipsis

28th July 2015, 11:19

...went to see Arnie last night. I wonder if that's the end of the Terminators?...fucking cool...love that shit...

Banditbandit

28th July 2015, 11:31

Our 43rd wedding anniversary tomorrow - still can't believe what my wife saw in me all those years ago, just quietly grateful:laugh:

Awesome. Congratulations

Edbear

28th July 2015, 12:23

Our 43rd wedding anniversary tomorrow - still can't believe what my wife saw in me all those years ago, just quietly grateful:laugh:

Hearty congratulations! Precious times that many don't get to realise. :niceone:

"Our analysis shows that New Zealand had the third highest level of Material Wellbeing across 40 counties, including all OECD
countries, just behind the United States and Canada but ahead of Australia and all high-income Scandinavian
countries."

http://www.motu.org.nz/assets/Documents/our-work/wellbeing-and-macroeconomics/well-being-and-sustainability-measures/Motu-Note-21-Material-Wellbeing-of-NZ-Households.pdf

:Punk::Punk::Punk:

Makes all the whining look kinda pathetic, don't it?

Yup! Some people would whine if their pants were on fire. :rolleyes:

Blackbird

28th July 2015, 12:42

Awesome. Congratulations

Hearty congratulations! Precious times that many don't get to realise. :niceone:

Thanks guys! Meant what I said too! She was (and is) a stunner and I was (and am) pretty bloody ordinary. One of life's great mysteries, sigh......:hug:

Bikemad

28th July 2015, 12:49

just had the last 10 months off work,by choice,in which my daughter and i had a month away visiting Singapore the UK,went to the TT,Scotland,France and San Francisco on the way home.
Was expecting to take a job on the end of a welder again when the old employer rang and offered me a Service Tech position for a couple of bucks an hour more,with another raise in 3 months,than my last role with them.
The bank will be cheerful too

Grumph

28th July 2015, 20:06

Our power bill with Meridian was only $151.72 for this month - considering the average weather :cold: - that has to be a reason to be cheerful = value IMHO. :wings:

Well that's made me more cheerful - ours was less even with minus 10 deg mornings and having to heat the catteries for a few nights...The benefits of cheap wood and a wetback....

Oakie

28th July 2015, 22:48

Well for the first time in God knows how long, I found the bottom of my 'In Tray' at work today.

Berries

28th July 2015, 22:56

Another earthquake was it?

Tazz

28th July 2015, 23:51

Well for the first time in God knows how long, I found the bottom of my 'In Tray' at work today.
Was there a pot of gold?

mashman

29th July 2015, 09:34

Tech leaders warn over 'killer robots' (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/29080529/tech-leaders-warn-over-killer-robots/)

ellipsis

29th July 2015, 10:30

...so Arnie 'will be back'...

Ocean1

29th July 2015, 16:01

Tech leaders warn over 'killer robots' (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/29080529/tech-leaders-warn-over-killer-robots/)

What the fuck's cheerful about that?

Belongs over in Fucking Stupid World with all the other doom and drivel.

Oakie

29th July 2015, 17:40

Was there a pot of gold?

Nah. Just a list of things to do when I emptied my in tray.

R

mashman

29th July 2015, 17:52

What the fuck's cheerful about that?

Belongs over in Fucking Stupid World with all the other doom and drivel.

That you find no cheer in it matters not surely? I apologise if I've stumbled into the "it can only be cheerful if ocean thinks so" thread.

Stop being so negative... this is supposed to be a cheerful thread and bogan will spank you.

ellipsis

29th July 2015, 23:17

...hit me with your rhythm stick...

Bikemad

30th July 2015, 01:04

one of the best bass lines in music history hands down..........thanks Norm

Grumph

31st July 2015, 17:15

Nice day at the track, went with two bikes to sort, sorted two bikes, wore out the pilot.

That'll do me today thanks....

BuzzardNZ

31st July 2015, 17:22

Ed and Bogan are talking to one another again :msn-wink:

husaberg

31st July 2015, 17:48

Ed and Bogan are talking to one another again :msn-wink:

I unsubscribed out of pure boredom. From that forum today.
I think Unstuck has reinvented himself as some kind of sex guru (celebrate)

BuzzardNZ

31st July 2015, 18:07

I unsubscribed out of pure boredom. From that forum today.
I think Unstuck has reinvented himself as some kind of sex guru (celebrate)

resubscribe, it's almost like the glory days of the Shorai thread <_<

As for Unstuck, I heard he was the 'celebrant' ( or groom ) at this lovely union...

http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/funny-pictures-auto-fat-people-woman-384121.png

husaberg

31st July 2015, 18:18

resubscribe, it's almost like the glory days of the Shorai thread <_<

As for Unstuck, I heard he was the 'celebrant' ( or groom ) at this lovely union...

Stucky still needs to feed her up a bit more he likes them more cuddly
http://res.cloudinary.com/uktv/image/upload/b_rgb:000000,w_660,h_371,c_fill,q_75/v1377184862/dwcq3eft4lo25wy4fchx.jpg

Oakie

31st July 2015, 18:38

Cheerful because Mrs Oakie and I are off to watch Alan Davies live in Chch tonight.

Blackbird

31st July 2015, 21:50

Cheerful because Mrs Oakie and I are off to watch Alan Davies live in Chch tonight.

Did you laugh yourself sick? My wife and I did when we saw him in Hamilton. I think we've all experienced some of the things Alan talked about, particularly with young kids. (.... And we won't mention the sex :laugh: )

Oakie

1st August 2015, 09:29

Did you laugh yourself sick? My wife and I did when we saw him in Hamilton. I think we've all experienced some of the things Alan talked about, particularly with young kids. (.... And we won't mention the sex :laugh: )

Don't know about sick but there were tears requiring to be wiped away. Thought Mrs Oakie was going to have an accident in the pants department on more than one occasion. And yes, so often through the evening I was thinking "It's funny because it's true" (even the sex bit).

Ocean1

1st August 2015, 09:59

I guess not dying with blood gushing from every orifice could be considered a cheerfull option...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/70741718/vaccine-success-holds-hope-for-end-to-deadly-scourge-of-ebola

Unless, of course you're anti-big-pharma and therefore won't be having a shot. :second:

mashman

2nd August 2015, 15:48

‘Terror must be dealt with’: Thousands protest spike of violence in Israel (http://www.rt.com/news/311364-israel-protest-settler-antigay-violence/)

husaberg

2nd August 2015, 16:09

‘Terror must be dealt with’: Thousands protest spike of violence in Israel (http://www.rt.com/news/311364-israel-protest-settler-antigay-violence/)

Be interesting to hear Yokels thoughts on that. I am picking he would be pretty torn on the subject of jewish radicals killing Jewish Homosexuals.
p[s wtf is that doing in reasons to be cheerful?

oldrider

2nd August 2015, 19:38

Ran into a couple of my old riding mates today at Kurow - they had set off this morning to go for coffee at the chequered flag! :ride: (Rangitata no less)

They were a little off course but that added to the rush I felt as I remembered the good old days of just going somewhere - anywhere - who cared anyway! :blip:

That was a good time for feeling cheerful - and maybe just a little tearful - Sigh! :yeah:

caseye

2nd August 2015, 20:39

mashman

6th August 2015, 14:29

Eco-friendly 3D printed supercar (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/technology/a/29181134/eco-friendly-3d-printed-supercar/)

oldrider

9th August 2015, 10:59

Eco-friendly 3D printed supercar (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/technology/a/29181134/eco-friendly-3d-printed-supercar/)

Combine that with this and we might have a whole new ballgame!: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3063082/Has-Nasa-built-WARP-DRIVE-Engineers-claim-tested-impossible-engine-travel-faster-speed-light.html :corn: That would cause me to be cheerful!

mashman

12th August 2015, 23:56

Unpaid day off tomorrow.

mashman

22nd August 2015, 20:36

They're called 'electric highways,' and they might change everything about how we drive. (http://www.upworthy.com/theyre-called-electric-highways-and-they-might-change-everything-about-how-we-drive?c=upw1&u=0b67725c6d028a71011f9f254537a05f56f0588c)

Ocean1

22nd August 2015, 20:43

Hhmmm... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/71362337/garage-explosion-destroys-prized-motorbike-collection

caseye

22nd August 2015, 20:46

Got told to Bugger off early yesterday, so I did, Hopped on the scoot and headed for Rotovegas, great ride down, bit chilly over the Mama.Ku's but still a bloody enjoyable blast down the line.

Oakie

23rd August 2015, 19:35

caseye

23rd August 2015, 19:38

Five more sleeps until my grandaughters arrive for a week with us. Miss 8 and Miss 5 are flying as unaccompanied minors from Wanganui to Chch for the start of their adventure. Got some cool activities lined up for them so it should be a hoot! And Miss 8 will demand at least one ride a day on the 600. Miss 5 ... not so keen but we'll see.

Enjoy!
Had to type some more words cause we're not allowed one worders, even though in this case it was completely appropriate.

husaberg

23rd August 2015, 19:50

Five more sleeps until my grandaughters arrive for a week with us. Miss 8 and Miss 5 are flying as unaccompanied minors from Wanganui to Chch for the start of their adventure. Got some cool activities lined up for them so it should be a hoot! And Miss 8 will demand at least one ride a day on the 600. Miss 5 ... not so keen but we'll see.

5 and 8 is a pit young to send down the pit isn't it I guess they will enjoy their time of work.
http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/Coal_Miners_Portage_PA.preview.jpg
I hope they are princess themed adventures

mashman

23rd August 2015, 22:11

Minister urges unemployed to head south (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/29328657/minister-urges-unemployed-to-head-south/)

unstuck

24th August 2015, 07:49

I am cheerful that we have the freedom to CHOOSE to feel cheerful whenever we wish.

And I'm a good bastard. :wari::wari:

TheDemonLord

24th August 2015, 08:39

Combine that with this and we might have a whole new ballgame!: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3063082/Has-Nasa-built-WARP-DRIVE-Engineers-claim-tested-impossible-engine-travel-faster-speed-light.html :corn: That would cause me to be cheerful!

This is my single most favourite type of science:

'It works.... And we have no fucking clue WHY it works'

Warp drive or not, there are some truly interesting times ahead if we discover why this works - I suspect it will lead to a greater understanding of Space/The universe/Everything.

unstuck

24th August 2015, 09:23

Combine that with this and we might have a whole new ballgame!: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3063082/Has-Nasa-built-WARP-DRIVE-Engineers-claim-tested-impossible-engine-travel-faster-speed-light.html :corn: That would cause me to be cheerful!

"A number of those discussing the plan on the technical forum claim to be Nasa engineers"

If I claim to be Saddam Hussain, does this make it so? :whistle:

If they had that type of technology, they certainly would not be letting you and I know it. I do think the technology exists, just not sure if nasa are the ones who are doing the research.:shifty:

EJK

25th August 2015, 09:47

Rego going on the bike tomorrow :wari:

unstuck

25th August 2015, 11:28

Oxygen. :niceone:

Scuba_Steve

25th August 2015, 12:42

Oxygen. :niceone:

With you there... Bit of O2 makes fire so much more fun :devil2:

puddytat

28th August 2015, 21:44

Vodafone.......never thought I"d say it , but they have made my life just that little bit better. By about 76gigs, for the same price....MotGP.com runs beautifully in HD....the missus is happy as we can both do shit at the same time.
See....I knew that if I ranted enough that they'd spend the millions just to keep Me happy & they'd get to keep their heads attatched to their torsos'
Ta!:niceone:

frogfeaturesFZR

29th August 2015, 12:31

puddytat

29th August 2015, 16:04

The minions are forging & sharpening their swords as we speak........:psst:

Ocean1

6th November 2015, 08:22

Turns out there's every reason to be cheerful...

http://media.prosperity.com/2015/pdf/publications/PI2015Brochure_WEB.pdf

mashman

30th November 2015, 10:40

I'm going to be helping 7yr olds cutting and pasting and gluing and creating etc... at the school tomorrow :wari:

Grumph

30th November 2015, 11:42

Not as exciting as mashie's big adventure, but the small flotilla of posties I'm supposed to be looking after at levels next weekend is done and all running...

For how long and in what novel ways they can break, we're yet to see. Nevertheless, we start off hopeful...and moderately cheerful.

ellipsis

30th November 2015, 12:14

...I will probably have at least 40 mins of spare time up my sleeve by Thursday evening to check the Velo works and holds oil and pack my stuff for the three days of Classicness at Levels...see you there Greg, it's been a while...

Moi

30th November 2015, 12:30

I'm going to be helping 7yr olds cutting and pasting and gluing and creating etc... at the school tomorrow :wari:

Good on you!

husaberg

30th November 2015, 13:58

Grumph

30th November 2015, 14:15

Post a pic of the clutch Ginger so we can all marvel at it eccentricity.

Eccentric, yes, lifts from one side and winds itself disengaged in one turn...But cheap and cheerful at the time.
Had a Mk4 KTT visiting last Monday night, we got quite cheerful...

husaberg

30th November 2015, 14:39

Eccentric, yes, lifts from one side and winds itself disengaged in one turn...But cheap and cheerful at the time.
Had a Mk4 KTT visiting last Monday night, we got quite cheerful...

Seen a description of the clutch on the big port AJS that was far far simpler. One spring one cork face plate come sprocket, two plain plates that's it.

317601

Grumph

30th November 2015, 16:52

husaberg

30th November 2015, 17:03

AJS clutches got heavier from that point onward...Here's a cheerful guy on a Big Port. it's the old man and he'd won the NZ Beach race title 3 years running in the mid 20's. It's an ex works bike too. Ivan Rhodes reckoned they did around 10 per year and post TT week sent them to agents round the world.

i will post something in another thread later.
Bert Monroes indian heads were copied off them as well, but you already knew that.

ellipsis

30th November 2015, 17:56

Post a pic of the clutch Ginger so we can all marvel at it eccentricity.

...yeah it is a thing of marvel but I'll just play you a song...hope it makes for cheerfulness all round...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/x_NpN1eD9rA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

mashman

1st December 2015, 12:27

Good on you!

That, was a fuckin awesome 5 hours.

Moi

1st December 2015, 14:36

That, was a fuckin awesome 5 hours.

Who enjoyed it more? - you or the kids you were helping?

mashman

1st December 2015, 15:12

Who enjoyed it more? - you or the kids you were helping?

heh heh heh... a tie I reckon. They did learn how to slice a finger open on scissors right after a mini "look, I'm being careful with these scissors" speech, how to cover your apple with glitter and glue by accidentally dropping it onto the table and watching it gather moss, burn oneself repeatedly with a glue gun, learn that tooth brushing is important... and likely a few other things. Fun had by all at alls expense :niceone:

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 17:50

husaberg

17th December 2015, 17:57

Well fuck me, the sky's not falling after all...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75224095/new-zealand-ranked-as-the-worlds-9th-best-country-in-global-un-report

"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.

Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).

"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."

That fails to take into account a cost of living that has outpaced those income figures especially when you take into account the increased number of people working per household to earn that figure.
It also disregards the fact that our standard of living has fallen compared to the other countries that we used to lead.
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2002/02-14/twp02-14-001.gif

We have fallen in GDP/ capita steadily since the 50's
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2002/02-14/01.htm

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 18:31

That fails to take into account a cost of living that has outpaced those income figures especially when you take into account the increased number of people working per household to earn that figure.
It also disregards the fact that our standard of living has fallen compared to the other countries that we used to lead.

We have fallen in GDP/ capita steadily since the 50's

GDP is somewhat dependent on exchange rates, which have been known to be somewhat unrelated to productivity before now.

And they're not actually measuring GDP anyway, they're measuring performance based on Human Development Index, which includes a bunch of outcomes related to quality of life.

Interesting to note that the biggest drop in NZ GDP was related to Britain's entry to the EU and subsequent trade barriers to NZ goods. Which sorta hints that free trade benefits producers, rather than consumers, dunnit?

husaberg

17th December 2015, 18:39

GDP is somewhat dependent on exchange rates, which have been known to be somewhat unrelated to productivity before now.

And they're not actually measuring GDP anyway, they're measuring performance based on Human Development Index, which includes a bunch of outcomes related to quality of life.

Interesting to note that the biggest drop in NZ GDP was related to Britain's entry to the EU and subsequent trade barriers to NZ goods. Which sorta hints that free trade benefits producers, rather than consumers, dunnit?

All I can say is it isn't as rosy as you were making out in regards to how well off we are now.
What were the figures the other day 1/3 of childrens std basic daily needs not being met?

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 18:52

All I can say is it isn't as rosy as you were making out in regards to how well off we are now.
What were the figures the other day 1/3 of childrens std basic daily needs not being met?

H, by any reasonable comparison to any other country we do OK.

By any reasonable comparison to any other era it's as rosy as a fucking rosy thing.

All I've ever said is that the overwhelmingly negative reporting, reinforced by noisy socialist lobbying is completely at odds with the facts.

Gwarn, have a lookse, choose any metric at random: http://ourworldindata.org/data/economic-development-work-standard-of-living/happiness-and-life-satisfaction/

You might find somewhere/somewhen that's a better place to live from a fairly narrow point of view, but in shit that matters we're in a profoundly salubrious place/time. You don't know how propitious are the circumstances, Bruce.

husaberg

17th December 2015, 19:01

H, by any reasonable comparison to any other country we do OK.

By any reasonable comparison to any other era it's as rosy as a fucking rosy thing.

All I've ever said is that the overwhelmingly negative reporting, reinforced by noisy socialist lobbying is completely at odds with the facts.

Gwarn, have a lookse, choose any metric at random: http://ourworldindata.org/data/economic-development-work-standard-of-living/happiness-and-life-satisfaction/

You might find somewhere/somewhen that's a better place to live from a fairly narrow point of view, but in shit that matters we're in a profoundly salubrious place/time. You don't know how propitious are the circumstances, Bruce.
OK........wow...... we used to lead the world we were the envy of most of the developed world for pretty much everything.
So surely You are not denying that our measured living income and pretty much every social and economic standards have slipped rather dramatically compared to other developed countries are you?

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 19:17

OK........wow...... we used to lead the world we were the envy of most of the developed world for pretty much everything.
So surely You are not denying that our measured living income and pretty much every social and economic standards have slipped rather dramatically compared to other developed countries are you?

So you didn't actually read the article?

Have another try:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75224095/new-zealand-ranked-as-the-worlds-9th-best-country-in-global-un-report

"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.

Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).

"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."

husaberg

17th December 2015, 19:33

So you didn't actually read the article?

Have another try:

no I covered that already....... you are posting cherry picked data (I guess they are in season)

That fails to take into account a cost of living that has outpaced those income figures especially when you take into account the increased number of people working per household to earn that figure.
It also disregards the fact that our standard of living has fallen compared to the other countries that we used to lead.

We have fallen in GDP/ capita steadily since the 50's
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2002/02-14/01.htm
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2002/02-14/twp02-14-001.gif

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 19:45

no I covered that already....... you are posting cherry picked data (I guess they are in season)

http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2002/02-14/twp02-14-001.gif

So now the single, (dubiously relevant) GDP graph "covers", what was it?

our measured living income and pretty much every social and economic standards

And I gave you a fucking great bag of perfectly respectable data and asked you to find examples of how bad we have it. Do try not to spin your own cherries quite so depressing old chap, like I said the sky is rock solid.

ellipsis

17th December 2015, 19:46

...what cheerfulness is exhibited in these preceding posts...please elucidate...some shit from a newspaper is nothing to be cheerful about...quite the opposite...be cheerful for fucksake...

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 19:49

...what cheerfulness is exhibited in these preceding posts...please elucidate...some shit from a newspaper is nothing to be cheerful about...quite the opposite...be cheerful for fucksake...

But it's Auntie Helen's shit. It must be right.

And at least H bought numbers. Albeit irrelevant ones.

Here, have a go yourself, it's not difficult, find a quality of life metric we're substantially worse of here/now compared to another country or era: http://ourworldindata.org/data/

Must be something in there you can get well depressed about, alcoholic mortality trend mebe....

ellipsis

17th December 2015, 20:05

But it's Auntie Helen's shit. It must be right.

...that is definitely bringing cheefulness down to a new, lower, threshhold...

puddytat

17th December 2015, 20:18

He's started swearing & the insults too.....definitely dropping on the cheerfulness scale....

Moi

17th December 2015, 20:31

Even if those life expectancy numbers are on the pessimistic side I still have, provided nothing untoward happens, almost as many years enjoying retirement as I did enjoy working...

husaberg

17th December 2015, 20:32

So now the single, (dubiously relevant) GDP graph "covers", what was it?

And I gave you a fucking great bag of perfectly respectable data and asked you to find examples of how bad we have it. Do try not to spin your own cherries quite so depressing old chap, like I said the sky is rock solid.

more cherry picking there was a link to official treasury information
there was also questions that you never answered.
ho ho ho..........
Your income per household That fails to take into account a cost of living that has outpaced those income figures especially when you take into account the increased number of people working per household to earn that figure.
It also disregards the fact that our standard of living has fallen compared to the other countries that we used to lead.

But as you think great progress has been made.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/history-of-life-expectancy
we were ranked 7th in 1960
14th in1970
22nd in 1980
20th 1990
11thin 2000
19th in 2011
13th in 2013

WOW............... negative overall.
How could that be spinned? oh yeah just use the age and disregard the past rankings..............

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 20:45

more cherry picking there was a link to official treasury information
there was also questions that you never answered.
ho ho ho..........
Your income per household That fails to take into account a cost of living that has outpaced those income figures especially when you take into account the increased number of people working per household to earn that figure.
It also disregards the fact that our standard of living has fallen compared to the other countries that we used to lead.

But as you think great progress has been made.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/history-of-life-expectancy
we were ranked 7th in 1960
14th in1970
22nd in 1980
20th 1990
11thin 2000
19th in 2011
13th in 2013

WOW............... negative overall.
How could that be spinned? oh yeah just use the age and disregard the past rankings..............

During which time NZ's life expectancy has gone from 77 to 82.

Who cares if half a dozen other countries now "rank" "higher" than us?

Isn't it more important that almost every country on the planet lives years longer just over the last few decades?

And you reckon I'm spinning shit.

Ocean1

17th December 2015, 20:47

Even if those life expectancy numbers are on the pessimistic side I still have, provided nothing untoward happens, almost as many years enjoying retirement as I did enjoy working...

Aye. Important stuff.

Like burying 75% fewer infants, just in my lifetime.

If that's not enough to make you cheerful then best you shuffle off your mortal coil, fuck all can help you.

husaberg

17th December 2015, 20:49

During which time NZ's life expectancy has gone from 77 to 82.

Who cares if half a dozen other countries now "rank" "higher" than us?

Isn't it more important that almost every country on the planet lives years longer just over the last few decades?

And you reckon I'm spinning shit.

You are spinning that ........ while the age has increased it has not keep pace with the increases of rest of the world. It has actually slipped compared to our peers.
its not a reason to be cheerful its proof that we have not performed as well as we used to.
You could also say that in 1960 the ave wage was eqv $120. Yet now its $1000 and go wow look folks we are $820 a week better off. But without actual relevant comparisons in spending power its still irrelevant data.

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 06:41

You are spinning that ........ while the age has increased it has not keep pace with the increases of rest of the world. It has actually slipped compared to our peers.
its not a reason to be cheerful its proof that we have not performed as well as we used to.
You could also say that in 1960 the ave wage was eqv $120. Yet now its $1000 and go wow look folks we are $820 a week better off. But without actual relevant comparisons in spending power its still irrelevant data.

Mate, if you want to be all bitter and twisted over the fact that out of 200 odd countries our life expectancy has moved from.....

"we were ranked 7th in 1960
14th in1970
22nd in 1980
20th 1990
11thin 2000
19th in 2011
13th in 2013"

and that Iceland now lives three days longer than NZ then you go right ahead.

I'll be over in the corner here, quietly thankful that we, our peers and especially the world's poorest are living longer than we used to, and continue to do so. If you improve the factors that affect mortality most then of course you're going to get a convergence of outcomes across the data set. That's a good thing innit?

husaberg

18th December 2015, 14:27

Mate, if you want to be all bitter and twisted over the fact that out of 200 odd countries our life expectancy has moved from.....

"we were ranked 7th in 1960
14th in1970
22nd in 1980
20th 1990
11thin 2000
19th in 2011
13th in 2013"

and that Iceland now lives three days longer than NZ then you go right ahead.

I'll be over in the corner here, quietly thankful that we, our peers and especially the world's poorest are living longer than we used to, and continue to do so. If you improve the factors that affect mortality most then of course you're going to get a convergence of outcomes across the data set. That's a good thing innit?

I am not bitter and twisted about anything, I just not accept your figures, as they are rhetoric that is being spun and have no meaningful point of reference.
I took one of your measurements you hose to post and put it in its proper context.
It showed your glossy spin was unable to stand up to long term scrutiny as it actually showed a major fall in life expectancy rankings when compared to how well we used to do against the rest of the world.
Feel free to gloat on about how great it is all you want, but do so whilst ignoring the fact that NZ is slipping behind other developed countries, feel free to give yourself a great big pat on the back about that if you wish.

bogan

18th December 2015, 16:52

Feel free to gloat on about how great it is all you want, but do so whilst ignoring the fact that NZ is slipping behind other developed countries, feel free to give yourself a great big pat on the back about that if you wish.

Well it is fucking great. I've had a very good year, and got some very good family and friends to ring it out with, and in good health. I'd have to be mentally ill not to be cheerful :sunny:

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 16:57

I am not bitter and twisted about anything, I just not accept your figures, as they are rhetoric that is being spun and have no meaningful point of reference.
I took one of your measurements you hose to post and put it in its proper context.
It showed your glossy spin was unable to stand up to long term scrutiny as it actually showed a major fall in life expectancy rankings when compared to how well we used to do against the rest of the world.
Feel free to gloat on about how great it is all you want, but do so whilst ignoring the fact that NZ is slipping behind other developed countries, feel free to give yourself a great big pat on the back about that if you wish.

They're not my figures. They originate from http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN , https://www.clio-infra.eu/datasets/search and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy No shortage of references. No rhetoric there.

Have a look around. You can probably find more bad news in there, but you'll have to wade through a bunch of good news to find it.

And I don't think you can call it a major fall when the improvement in life expectancy in the top dozen countries is at least an order of magnitude greater than the variation in improvement between them. I'd say "proper context" would be considering the couple of days separating them as of little statistical significance contributing fuck all to the overall quality of life the original survey covered.

If you're hell bent on hyper-focusing on our "rank" amongst the worlds elite living standards as defined by improved life expectancy then take comfort from the fact that for the last half decade we've improved more than our cohorts. Who gets the pat on the back for that?

husaberg

18th December 2015, 16:58

Well it is fucking great. I've had a very good year, and got some very good family and friends to ring it out with, and in good health. I'd have to be mentally ill not to be cheerful :sunny:

See, Now that is a reason to be cheerful. (even if you are a robotic cyborg)

husaberg

18th December 2015, 17:03

They're not my figures. They originate from http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN , https://www.clio-infra.eu/datasets/search and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy No shortage of references. No rhetoric there.

Have a look around. You can probably find more bad news in there, but you'll have to wade through a bunch of good news to find it.

And I don't think you can call it a major fall when the improvement in life expectancy in the top dozen countries is at least an order of magnitude greater than the variation in improvement between them. I'd say "proper context" would be considering the couple of days separating them as of little statistical significance contributing fuck all to the overall quality of life the original survey covered.

If you're hell bent on hyper-focusing on our "rank" amongst the worlds elite living standards as defined by improved life expectancy then take comfort from the fact that for the last half decade we've improved more than our cohorts. Who gets the pat on the back for that?
This is what you posted.

Well fuck me, the sky's not falling after all...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75224095/new-zealand-ranked-as-the-worlds-9th-best-country-in-global-un-report

"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.

Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).

"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."
As for the who should get credit for improvements.
Likely the people that put in place the actual improvements in healthcare. But don't worry only in Right wing spin do they occur immediately. Otherwise its the predecessors fault. right? and they were only tiding up the mess left by others ....ad nausea

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 20:03

This is what you posted.

As for the who should get credit for improvements.
Likely the people that put in place the actual improvements in healthcare. But don't worry only in Right wing spin do they occur immediately. Otherwise its the predecessors fault. right? and they were only tiding up the mess left by others ....ad nausea

Yes. I assumed you wanted references for http://ourworldindata.org/ which are posted at the bottom of every page. As is normal with any credible commentary.

It didn't occur to me that you'd actually be asking for references for http://report.hdr.undp.org/ But here, fill yer boots:
http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2015_statistical_annex.pdf

Point to the spin.

And what on earth leads you to believe I'd blame improvements in the production of anything whatsoever on anyone other than those producing them? The only contribution political entities can usually make to improvements is to stay out of the fucking way while others get on with the job.

husaberg

18th December 2015, 20:14

Yes. I assumed you wanted references for http://ourworldindata.org/ which are posted at the bottom of every page. As is normal with any credible commentary.

It didn't occur to me that you'd actually be asking for references for http://report.hdr.undp.org/ But here, fill yer boots:
http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2015_statistical_annex.pdf

Point to the spin.

Spin Shane Warne was an amateur third time what you posted.

"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.

Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).

"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 20:26

Spin Shane Warne was an amateur third time what you posted.

What exactly is incorrect about the numbers?

Hint: just feeling that they don't quite sound like they match your preconceptions doesn't constitute incorrect.

husaberg

18th December 2015, 20:31

What exactly is incorrect about the numbers?

Nothing is incorrect about the numbers. Numbers are numbers, its (as I have said for 2 pages now) they need to be taken into the correct context to have meaning.
I provided the context that showed the number point to a slipping position in developed world standings compared to years ago
This conversation is spinning right round
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Madmax

18th December 2015, 20:53

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11563241

bogan

18th December 2015, 21:00

Nothing is incorrect about the numbers. Numbers are numbers, its (as I have said for 2 pages now) they need to be taken into the correct context to have meaning.

It's classic glass half fucked twatwaffle. Since you are a 'half empty' you'll be better off in the stupid worlders thread, since ocean and myself etc are 'half full', we should carry on being cheerful right here.

Me, I'm real cheerful I figured that benefits of positive perception years ago :yes:

husaberg

18th December 2015, 21:07

It's classic glass half fucked twatwaffle. Since you are a 'half empty' you'll be better off in the stupid worlders thread, since ocean and myself etc are 'half full', we should carry on being cheerful right here.

Me, I'm real cheerful I figured that benefits of positive perception years ago :yes:

No presently I think Ocean is half Cut..............
As I replied to your post a bit back, that what you had posted was what this thread was about was a reason to be cheerful, friends good health, boat loads of depraved sex. not party political broadcasts from Sarcahi and Sarchi on behalf of the National party.
I not sure if I can post on the stupid world thread as Mashy is still not talking to me..........:2thumbsup

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 21:09

Nothing is incorrect about the numbers. Numbers are numbers, its (as I have said for 2 pages now) they need to be taken into the correct context to have meaning.
I provided the context that showed the number point to a slipping position in developed world standings compared to years ago
This conversation is spinning right round

And yet the numbers you admit there's nothing wrong with stand alone as proof of improvement.

"The report said New Zealand's life expectancy at birth increased by 8.7 years since 1980, years spent at school increased by almost 12 months and the gross national income per capita increased by 59 per cent between 1980 and 2014.

Life expectancy is 81.8 years, Kiwis expect to spend about 19 years in education and the gross income per person is $48,400 (US$32,689).

"New Zealand's human development index is above the average for countries in the very high human development group and above the average for countries in the OECD."

To point out, ad nausium that some countries have done better in some areas is a pretty transparent attempt to spin good news as bad. The only reason I can see anyone might do that is in an attempt to rationalise a claim that there's nothing to be cheerful about purely to deny the "right wing" any ability to claim responsibility for it.

I wonder if that could be the reason you're having trouble with repeating yourself...

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 21:11

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11563241

261?

Obviously spun data.

BuzzardNZ

18th December 2015, 21:12

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 21:15

No presently I think Ocean is half Cut..............
As I replied to your post a bit back, that what you had posted was what this thread was about was a reason to be cheerful, friends good health, boat loads of depraved sex. not party political broadcasts from Sarcahi and Sarchi on behalf of the National party.
I not sure if I can post on the stupid world thread as Mashy is still not talking to me..........:2thumbsup

Not even. Couple of glasses of savi.

And that "National Party" broadcast came to you from possibly the most socialist organisation on the planet: teh UN, via comrade Helen Clarke.

If there's any spin to be found among data from that lot it'll be nothing the Nat's will be pleased to see.

husaberg

18th December 2015, 21:20

Not even. Couple of glasses of savi.

And that "National Party" broadcast came to you from possibly the most socialist organisation on the planet: teh UN, via comrade Helen Clarke.

If there's any spin to be found among data from that lot it'll be nothing the Nat's will be pleased to see.
pretty sure the UN did not ring up Stuff and say do you want to run a story...........
you are confusing the sourse of the information with who ran the story.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75224095/new-zealand-ranked-as-the-worlds-9th-best-country-in-global-un-report
what you posted as I have said a bloody lot of times I have no issue with the data just the manner in which it is being spun.

Ocean1

18th December 2015, 21:25

pretty sure the UN did not ring up Stuff and say do you want to run a story...........
you are confusing the sourse of the information with who ran the story.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75224095/new-zealand-ranked-as-the-worlds-9th-best-country-in-global-un-report
what you posted as I have said a bloody lot of times I have no issue with the data just the manner in which it is being spun.

Which has nothing to do with the validity of the data.
No I'm not.
The fact that the numbers are quoted by stuff doesn't automatically change them from true to "spun".

Good to agree that neither of us have issues with the report showing real numerical reasons to be cheerful. :2thumbsup

98tls

18th December 2015, 21:32

"Reasons to be cheerful"...just spent 5 1/2 hours at Oamaru hospital and made it out alive :wacko: no doubt the same as plenty of small towns in NZ but fuck me the service is shit,arrived there with an obviously broken thumb no biggie but bloody sore,had the X-ray but no cunt it seemed could read em so they called someone in...possibly from New York as it took fucking hours for him to get there..at one stage they told me to piss off and come back later when hopefully someone had looked at the X-rays:brick::facepalm: so went to the pub had a pint then went back to be told what everyone knew anyway.Missed my true calling it seems as i knew the thing was broken at 4.30 this afternoon.Will add that a forest the size of Russia had to be felled for the filling in of paperwork it seemed,crazy world.

husaberg

18th December 2015, 21:32

Which has nothing to do with the validity of the data.
No I'm not.
The fact that the numbers are quoted by stuff doesn't automatically change them from true to "spun".

Good to agree that neither of us have issues with the report showing real numerical reasons to be cheerful. :2thumbsup

You said the story came from the UN it did not..........you even tried to suggest Auntie Helen........
it did not though, how do you think puff pieces like that come to be in the papers and media?
Tell me was it on Whale oil as well.....................:psst:

Oakie

18th December 2015, 22:15

98tls

18th December 2015, 22:21

Reasons to be cheerful? My grandaughters arrive tomorrow for Xmas and little Miss 9 years old is going to have her first proper ride (out of our street) on the back of Poppa's bike ... and she doesn't know it yet.

Nice..enjoy.Have been told when i was a little un ie still in nappies :facepalm: the old man used to put some goggles round my head and stuff me down his swanny then off for a ride,dont remember it but guess i enjoyed it.Little Miss 9 year old may well get to hinting of a bike of her own when Santa next visits....

Oakie

19th December 2015, 07:55

.Little Miss 9 year old may well get to hinting of a bike of her own when Santa next visits....
Knowing her, she'll just ask for my keys and go ...

Foregone conclusion she'd be a biker really. She had her first ride up and down the drive aged 6 weeks with her car seat bungeed to the packrack and hasn't stopped since then.

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 08:16

You said the story came from the UN it did not..........you even tried to suggest Auntie Helen........
it did not though, how do you think puff pieces like that come to be in the papers and media?
Tell me was it on Whale oil as well.....................:psst:

The REPORT is the product of the UN. Of which Auntie Helen is a member, and who was quoted in the article.

You didn't actually read the article, did you?

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 08:17

husaberg

19th December 2015, 11:07

The REPORT is the product of the UN. Of which Auntie Helen is a member, and who was quoted in the article.

You didn't actually read the article, did you?
I did in fact, but as I have clearly stated the article was a puff piece derived from selected information in the report.

Moi

19th December 2015, 11:20

Knowing her, she'll just ask for my keys and go ...

Foregone conclusion she'd be a biker really. She had her first ride up and down the drive aged 6 weeks with her car seat bungeed to the packrack and hasn't stopped since then.

OK, so who had the bigger smile? Granddad or Miss 9-YearOld?

HenryDorsetCase

19th December 2015, 12:26

doh double post

HenryDorsetCase

19th December 2015, 12:31

Reasons to be cheerful:

My new job is great. Shit from my old job will sort itself out one way or another, in time.

I love the trackday.

I get two weeks off in a few days where I dont HAVE to do ANYTHING except whatever the fuck I want... SWMBO is working except stat days so if i want to lie about in bed till midday I can, lie about and read I can, lie about and listen to music I can, lie about and take a nap I can.

Motorbike is going great and I intend to do a few day rides (not just Akaroa GP).

We are in a position this year to pay Christmas bonuses so I can make my workmates happy.

Yeah, life's good.

Oakie

19th December 2015, 12:34

OK, so who had the bigger smile? Granddad or Miss 9-YearOld?

Guaranteed to be Miss 9 YearOld. Grandad will be too worried about making it home safely with precious cargo intact less he incur the wrath of Miss 9 YearOld's mother and Grandmother.

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 12:38

I did in fact, but as I have clearly stated the article was a puff piece derived from selected information in the report.

A puff piece. Are you serious? Did you read the report to compare the article's content? If there was any "puff" involved it was the fact that the article picked up on Clarke's negative narative, which wasn't part of the report at all.

The report, tainted by the UN's socialist agenda as it is, (this is the crowd that defines "poor" as those earning less than 60% of the national mean) is nonetheless seriously impressed with global performance:

Over the past two decades, the world has made major strides in human development. Today, people are living longer, more children are going to school and more people have access to clean water and basic sanitation.

Since 1990, 2 billion people have been lifted out of low human development, extreme income poverty has been reduced by more than a billion. Every region of the world has seen Human Development Index (HDI) gains.

As a matter of interest I've been checking on some independent sources of opinion about NZ quality of life:

http://www.mercer.com/newsroom/2014-quality-of-living-survey.html#city-rankings
https://expatexplorer.hsbc.com/survey/
http://www.workingin-newzealand.com/live-and-settle/life-in-new-zealand/top-living-destination#.VnSf_fl96M8
http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/country_result.jsp?country=New+Zealand
http://www.enz.org/shades-of-new-zealand.html

Which does include a fair bit of negative feedback. Mostly to do with the cost of shit:

The price gouging Kiwis are subjected to. Even taking in to consideration shipping costs and a smaller market, I still don’t feel that 3x the cost of the same item/brand compared to the US market is justifiable. Cosmetics, glasses, contact lenses solution, and books are the things that have most recently irked me.

A phenomena that's annoyed and puzzled most Kiwis for decades, but while there's no reason to be cheerful about the trade barriers that cause that it hardly compares to improvements for 2 billion actual poor over the last few years in that regard.

HenryDorsetCase

19th December 2015, 12:40

A phenomena that's annoyed and puzzled most Kiwis for decades, and is no reason to be cheerful about the trade barriers that cause it.

Yet in the land of the "free" and the home of the insane ('Murica, fuck yeah!) they pay the most for prescription drugs of anywhere in the world.

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 12:45

Yet in the land of the "free" and the home of the insane ('Murica, fuck yeah!) they pay the most for prescription drugs of anywhere in the world.

Aye. I wonder if you'll find a heavily regulated or captive market at the bottom of that...

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 12:47

Yeah, life's good.

Most excellent. Whatever you did to make that happen do some more.

husaberg

19th December 2015, 13:27

A puff piece. Are you serious? Did you read the report to compare the article's content? If there was any "puff" involved it was the fact that the article picked up on Clarke's negative narative, which wasn't part of the report at all.

Which does include a fair bit of negative feedback. Mostly to do with the cost of shit:

A phenomena that's annoyed and puzzled most Kiwis for decades, but while there's no reason to be cheerful about the trade barriers that cause that it hardly compares to improvements for 2 billion actual poor over the last few years in that regard.

Yes deadly serious it was a National Cream Puff peice
Yes cream puff as the cream rises to the stop the scum settles in their rightful place at the bottom.
the National party puff peice scertainly worked a treat on you, Your chest was all puffed out posting about how lucky we all are..........
http://dl.glitter-graphics.com/pub/1863/1863827tq8t3or3mv.gif
Tell me again was that the same week as it was announched 1/3 of children don't have their basic needs meet in NZ now
Food Shelter and a warm dry roof over their heads

HenryDorsetCase

19th December 2015, 15:22

Aye. I wonder if you'll find a heavily regulated or captive market at the bottom of that...

no, what you find is the multinational companies that own America. It is a fascist oligopoly with a thin veneer of pretend democracy.

HenryDorsetCase

19th December 2015, 15:23

Tell me again was that the same week as it was announched 1/3 of children don't have their basic needs meet in NZ now
Food Shelter and a warm dry roof over their heads

Luckily the Dear Leader is around to make witty one liners about prison rape to take our minds off our troubles. Well, ya gotta laugh, eh?

husaberg

19th December 2015, 15:33

Luckily the Dear Leader is around to make witty one liners about prison rape to take our minds off our troubles. Well, ya gotta laugh, eh?

He is pretty consistant with his gaffs
like that cardie is a bit Gay...
or the mincing Katmanesk walk.
http://www.nzraw.co.nz/images/john-key-on-the-cat-walk.gif

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 15:34

Yes deadly serious it was a National Cream Puff peice
Yes cream puff as the cream rises to the stop the scum settles in their rightful place at the bottom.
the National party puff peice scertainly worked a treat on you, Your chest was all puffed out posting about how lucky we all are..........

Tell me again was that the same week as it was announched 1/3 of children don't have their basic needs meet in NZ now
Food Shelter and a warm dry roof over their heads

The announcement that 27% of children live in households with adults earning under 60% of mean wage?

Think I'll stick to laughing at your description of a UN report showing NZ in a good light as having been influenced by the NZ national party.

husaberg

19th December 2015, 15:39

The announcement that 27% of children live in households with adults earning under 60% of mean wage?

Think I'll stick to laughing at your description of a UN report showing NZ in a good light as having been influenced by the NZ national party.

More spin.........
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9Kxwy-4KgBMJ:www.nzchildren.co.nz/introduction.php+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz
https://www.unicef.org.nz/learn/our-work-in-new-zealand/Child-Poverty-in-New-Zealand
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/366960/more-children-living-poverty
318024

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 16:25

More spin.........
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9Kxwy-4KgBMJ:www.nzchildren.co.nz/introduction.php+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz
https://www.unicef.org.nz/learn/our-work-in-new-zealand/Child-Poverty-in-New-Zealand
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/366960/more-children-living-poverty
318024

As I said:
households living below the 60% median income poverty threshold

Now THAT's spin.

Face it, dude, it takes a special effort be actually poor in NZ, after you've managed to avoid finding someone willing to pay you for providing some service or other you also have to avoid the veritable avalanche of benefits designed to prevent you from facing the consequences of your failure.

There's something to be truly cheerful about: no labour party govt to convert such spin into yet more increases in those benefits in their usual pre-rigor mortis twitch response to such transparent bullshit.

Tazz

19th December 2015, 16:32

husaberg

19th December 2015, 16:34

As I said:

Now THAT's spin.

Face it, dude, it takes a special effort be actually poor in NZ, after you've managed to avoid finding someone willing to pay you for providing some service or other you also have to avoid the veritable avalanche of benefits designed to prevent you from facing the consequences of your failure.

There's something to be truly cheerful about: no labour party govt to convert such spin into yet more increases in those benefits in their usual pre-rigor mortis twitch response to such transparent bullshit.

In case you missed it children are the victims of poverty.
Using your logic is it their own fault
Victims of violence and sexual assult are also to blame are they?

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 16:56

In case you missed it children are the victims of poverty.
Using your logic is it their own fault
Victims of violence and sexual assult are also to blame are they?

Poverty's to blame, now?

Putting aside the laughable definition of "poverty" and the fact that these "children" are up to 17 years old, who exactly is to blame for poverty?

No, no don't tell me, it's..... it's John Key, innit? :laugh:

No doubt he's to blame for all the sexual assault and violence too.

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 16:58

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/72505372/blenheim-mates-turn-scrap-metal-into-masterpiece

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1000784926.htm

Plays a mean harmonica too.

Aye, saw that. Sobering stuff. Hope I'd have as much courage and dignity in the same situation.

TM listing's gone though.

husaberg

19th December 2015, 17:51

Poverty's to blame, now?

Putting aside the laughable definition of "poverty" and the fact that these "children" are up to 17 years old, who exactly is to blame for poverty?

No, no don't tell me, it's..... it's John Key, innit? :laugh:

No doubt he's to blame for all the sexual assault and violence too.

I just used your own logic, don't go blaming me its not my fault it was faulty.
poverty is funny now well its all right those kids living in poverty will be glad to know that you would suggest for them to eat cake

bogan

19th December 2015, 17:56

Today I'm cheerful that QI is a thing, and that despite not being in its country of origin, or even all that loyal to its monarchy, we still get to partake.

I just used your own logic, don't go blaming me its not my fault it was faulty.
poverty is funny now well its all right those kids living in poverty will be glad to know that you would suggest for them to eat cake

fuucccckkkkking stop whinging in the cheerful thread you insufferable shitter...

husaberg

19th December 2015, 18:01

Today I'm cheerful that QI is a thing, and that despite not being in its country of origin, or even all that loyal to its monarchy, we still get to partake.
fuucccckkkkking stop whinging in the cheerful thread you insufferable shitter...

Sounds awefully like a whinge yourself bogan:msn-wink:
If he stopped replying i would too, In case you never noticed, his shit an't all honey flavours chocolate raisins either..........

98tls

19th December 2015, 18:14

Cheerful...had to go to Timaru today and do the :yawn: Xmas shopping shit but on the way home turned off and headed up to Kurow on the north side of the river in the GTP,went nuts and let the thing stretch its legs:woohoo: old Dinosaurs still put a smile on ya dial..even the 4 wheeled ones.Couple of pints at the Maheno pub finished the trip off nicely.

Ocean1

19th December 2015, 18:15

I just used your own logic, don't go blaming me its not my fault it was faulty.
poverty is funny now well its all right those kids living in poverty will be glad to know that you would suggest for them to eat cake

Then you used it incorrectly.

In case it's not obvious, my logic is that children can never be poor. No matter how distorted the definition the income of any family is the responsibility of the adults in the family.

And nobody else.

Moi

19th December 2015, 19:28

Dinner tonight... roast beef and vegetables and a glass or two of a nice Chianti...

98tls

19th December 2015, 19:43

Dinner tonight... roast beef and vegetables and a glass or two of a nice Chianti...

Nice...Whitebait and Bourbon here.

Moi

19th December 2015, 19:50

Nice...Whitebait and Bourbon here.

They're terrible things to fillet... :wacko:

98tls

19th December 2015, 19:53

They're terrible things to fillet... :wacko:

Mrs wont cook em...something to do with the eyes she reckons,she wont eat them either which is a plus.

Moi

19th December 2015, 20:10

Mrs wont cook em...something to do with the eyes she reckons,she wont eat them either which is a plus.

Some people have the same reaction to flounder... shameful behaviour... oh, too bad... more for others...

98tls

19th December 2015, 20:24

Some people have the same reaction to flounder... shameful behaviour... oh, too bad... more for others...

Try said people with eel mate...

puddytat

19th December 2015, 21:39

As I said:

Now THAT's spin.

Face it, dude, it takes a special effort be actually poor in NZ, after you've managed to avoid finding someone willing to pay you for providing some service or other you also have to avoid the veritable avalanche of benefits designed to prevent you from facing the consequences of your failure.

There's something to be truly cheerful about: no labour party govt to convert such spin into yet more increases in those benefits in their usual pre-rigor mortis twitch response to such transparent bullshit.

You really are a pompous supercilious pedant .... cunt.

Ocean1

20th December 2015, 07:54

You really are a pompous supercilious pedant .... cunt.

pedantic.

And right, don't forget right.

Oakie

20th December 2015, 08:52

pedantic.

Nah. He was using pedant as a noun so it was correct ... he just double nouned you at the end there ... that's all.

Oh, I'm only here for the gramatical stuff ... not the merits either way of your argument

oldrider

20th December 2015, 09:05

And right, don't forget right.

Are you familiar with the Robbie Burns statue in Dunedin's octagon? - You know the one with the Mona-Lisa smile and the constant seagull shit on his head?

Twas he who said - "Would that God the gift to give us to see our selves as others see us"! - Hmmm or was that Stewie Griffin from Family Guy? :scratch: (whatever)

We had two plaques either side of our coal range mantel when we were kids I.E. "When two quarrel both are in the wrong"! (then we got a hiding)

The other one said - "Cheer-up the best is yet to come"! - Funny it always goes through my mind when I see this thread of yours! :lol:

It gives me a reason to feel cheerful. :niceone:

Moi

20th December 2015, 09:35

Try said people with eel mate...

I'm with them on eel... :sick:

Oakie

20th December 2015, 12:44

OK, so who had the bigger smile? Granddad or Miss 9-YearOld?

Yep ... Little Miss 9 wore the big smile at the end and Grandma even got a lovely photo of it.
I stopped after about 4 minutes at an intersection after a couple of long sweepers and asked if she was OK. "Yeah" (in a tone of why the hell wouldn't I be). "This is FUN!"

So cool (but still quite nerve racking for the pilot).

mashman

20th December 2015, 13:29

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fb/e6/55/fbe6553b4953c40d7800ae338c5a7618.jpg

2 out of 3 is good right :laugh:

Scuba_Steve

20th December 2015, 16:35

80's vehicles :Punk:

Moi

20th December 2015, 18:57

Yep ... Little Miss 9 wore the big smile at the end and Grandma even got a lovely photo of it.
I stopped after about 4 minutes at an intersection after a couple of long sweepers and asked if she was OK. "Yeah" (in a tone of why the hell wouldn't I be). "This is FUN!"

So cool (but still quite nerve racking for the pilot).

That must have been worth a few brownie points... :niceone: perhaps a-day's-riding-over-the-holidays worth... :wings:

mashman

26th December 2015, 08:59

The first summer I've had off in decades is here :wari:

Laava

26th December 2015, 10:16

Mrs wont cook em...something to do with the eyes she reckons,she wont eat them either which is a plus.

What about those other tiny swimmers? Bwahaha!

ellipsis

26th December 2015, 10:19

...I have no work lined up for the new year and have been aiming at this scenario for a long while now...my 'builders' house is going to get the treatment that I have been providing for other peoples houses for the last 30-40 years...I will be very broke and wont be able to race bikes or do the frivolous things like , spend, and when I have got our house up to the point where the promises made to my wife and myself over those years are fulfilled, I am semi retiring to my shed and helping my wife in her business...this makes me feel a little more than cheerful, more like ecstatic...