MotoGP 2019

[jellywrestler]

I haven't been to a Moto GP as yet and reckon given others enthusiasm for them they're probably a good show?
I'm thinking I should get my arse along to one in 2019 Figuring you lot would be able to enlighten me on to which meeting is the best one and why? Might as well get the inside info after all if i'm going to one...

[Oscar]

Sepang.

Reasons:

It's not Australia, and whereas the racing at PI is good, the facilities there are shite.
It's not as far as Yrup, Merica or Japan, and it's cheap.
The course is great, and the locals go nuts for it.
The locals are nice.
Did I mention it was cheap?
It's exoitic, but there's not too much of a language barrier.

[pritch]

Firstly don't just go for the day, do the three days. The first two days you can wander around with your camera, race day park your arse and watch. The airfares and accomodation will be most of the bill, the cost of the extra tickets should be relatively minor in comparison.

I liked the idea of the Malaysian GP but for one thing, they hold it in the monsoon season and too often it rains.

Phillip Island is great. I don't know about the public facilities, I was there with the now defunct Honda Riders Club and they had full hospitality laid on.

If you're thinking of travelling further afield than Oz check out Pole Position Travel, they seem to be the experts.

Some of the tracks can be remote and pose travel problems. CoTA might be good, no language problem, and great barbecue in town.

PM Gazza if he doesn't show up in this thread, he's been to Europe several times.

[Oscar]

I tried to go to Silverstone this year and they didn't race - go figure.
I also went to Misano, which was OKish.

If you're going to Yrup, I really, really liked Mugello (fantastic atmos, great track).
Barcelona was great too, stayed in the city for a few days prior and had a great time.

As Pritch said, go for three days.
You'll see shitloads on the Friday before the big crowds arrive.

[jellywrestler]

my intention is to go for the bike racing, not tourism so it would be the three day deal.

[gonzo_akl]

Another vote for Mugello - the atmosphere is beyond description, a slight feeling of anarchy, the racing and the track are great too.
We went last year (2017) and Barcelona was a week later - still a great atmosphere and better organized - but would recommend Mugello for the sheer madness and chaos of the place.
It is early June so may clash with the TT. It will be an interesting place the year that Rossi calls time on his career.

Misano - meh


I would like to get to Assen - the last time I was there was a very long time again, and it is often wet.

[sidecar bob]

my intention is to go for the bike racing, not tourism so it would be the three day deal.

For a three day weekend I'd be picking anything that doesn't start or end with the 16 hour Dubai flight.
If you're going to the other hemisphere it would be a shame to only see a race track.
What about the TT (25th May-7th June) followed by Catalunya, (14th-16th June)

[jellywrestler]

For a three day weekend I'd be picking anything that doesn't start or end with the 16 hour Dubai flight.
If you're going to the other hemisphere it would be a shame to only see a race track.
What about the TT (25th May-7th June) followed by Catalunya, (14th-16th June)

been to the tt, spent three weeks there with a shed full of brand new fzr600's to assemble and each one needed a 1000 miles on them so i made a pig of myself, jason mcewen was not happy when i rode past the van he and the other riders was in on his bike, with just my boots gloves and helmet on too.
drove a truck back to england with the bikes and smashed up britten in it that mark farmer had met his end on, and no, I never souvenired anything.
to be honest i struggle to not get bored at a bike meeting i'm just spectating at and don't know whether i'd enjoy the tt again, although what you point out looks interesting.

i'm sure i'd do a bit of a holiday too so it won't be three days at the track then home.

[Autech]

Manxkiwi went to Sepang this year, pretty sure he had a good time. I'd say out of the near rounds that'd be my pick to go to.
I'd like to go to Japan at some stage but would tie in the race with some tourism stuff. Hai.

[SaferRides]

I've been to F1 at Sepang and it was a great experience. But that was in April and the weather was tolerable - high 20's and about 70% humidity. Not sure about being there during the monsoon season for MotoGP - either very wet or hot.

PI is a great track and you can get really close to the bikes in places. Standing on the inside of turn 1 was absolutely awesome. But the weather can be shit so be prepared for anything. Accommodation options on the island are limited and mostly expensive - we stayed just off the island at Kilcunda, which was about a 15 minute ride, except on race day!

[jellywrestler]

i've been to phillip island three or four times but not for the gp, weather doesn't faze me, just wear the right stuff, one thing i do like about the circuit is being able to walk all the way around, rather than maybe being stuck in a grandstand for the whole day, what tracks other than PI are similar?
or can you grandstand hop on one pass as a rule or are you staying put?

[WALRUS]

I've only ever been to PI but I agree that the circuit, scenery, and racing are awesome but facilities are a little lacking.. And there are Australians everywhere, it's gross...

Seeing as this is the "MotoGP 2019" thread, is anyone else hyped to see how MotoE goes next year?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_MotoE_season

Rider list has been announced, Energica make a mean E-Bike, I reckon it'll be awesome. Hopefully it'll get a few more people interested and invested in TT-Zero for the next IoM as well

[jellywrestler]

Seeing as this is the "MotoGP 2019" thread, is anyone else hyped to see how MotoE goes next year?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_MotoE_season

Rider list has been announced, Energica make a mean E-Bike, I reckon it'll be awesome. Hopefully it'll get a few more people interested and invested in TT-Zero for the next IoM as well one huge thing missing is the titillation of one of our senses, hearing, that will be the biggest thing these bikes will have to overcome.
additionally is it going to become so evenly matched that there will be a group of 15 bikes all together and you may lose sight of watching one two three or four bikes battling as they all get swamped?

[roogazza]

i've been to phillip island three or four times but not for the gp, weather doesn't faze me, just wear the right stuff, one thing i do like about the circuit is being able to walk all the way around, rather than maybe being stuck in a grandstand for the whole day, what tracks other than PI are similar?
or can you grandstand hop on one pass as a rule or are you staying put?

I've been doing GPs since 2005 Jelly, tried doin 3 at a time but that was too long away from home. I'd describe Catalunya as more F1 ish but you can get around on foot. Mugello My Fav since 05, is like 4 Manfeilds in size and brilliant for walking around. Best by far for me. But of course two long flights each way . (it was 4 days of racing in those days). I have a group of French, Poms and German friends and we stay in Ronta about 12-15 kms away. If you are real lucky you can get accom that close but its usually booked out year on year. But hey you pick, P.I. is close and Sepang too.

[SaferRides]

i've been to phillip island three or four times but not for the gp, weather doesn't faze me, just wear the right stuff, one thing i do like about the circuit is being able to walk all the way around, rather than maybe being stuck in a grandstand for the whole day, what tracks other than PI are similar?
or can you grandstand hop on one pass as a rule or are you staying put?I understand the only decent stand is the one at Siberia. Buy a cheap folding chair, then sit where you like.

Another great place to watch is the hill beside the drop to MG from Lukey Heights.

[Oscar]

one huge thing missing is the titillation of one of our senses, hearing, that will be the biggest thing these bikes will have to overcome.
additionally is it going to become so evenly matched that there will be a group of 15 bikes all together and you may lose sight of watching one two three or four bikes battling as they all get swamped?

I told Mike Webb that they needed to hand out playing cards on the grid, to be attached to each bikes fork leg.

[Symahn]

I did Japan this year - fucking awesome. Saw return flights advertised recently for around $880, highly recommended if you don't mind the language barrier.

Likely gonna pop over to PI for 2019.

[BMWST?]

get a general admission ticket for PI and walk round the track for the practise days then perhaps choose a grandstand for race day.You can still walk around with a grandstand ticket,but you can always go back to your seat too.Thats how i would try to do it

[BMWST?]

is this gonna be the OFFICIAL motogp thread for the whole new season?

[Dadpole]

Testing on now. On BTSport2 for those of us with no MotoGP subscription.

[WALRUS]

is this gonna be the OFFICIAL motogp thread for the whole new season?

Fuck it, why not?

[Mental Trousers]

is this gonna be the OFFICIAL motogp thread for the whole new season?

Fuck it, why not?

This is Spyder trying to decide which event to go to next year, info that might prove very useful for others too. However, it's not about the racing etc so probably end up as it's own thread.

[pritch]

Fuck it, why not?


Edzackery. It's not like there's any racing for another six months or so.

[SaferRides]

Edzackery. It's not like there's any racing for another six months or so.But there will be testing. Lots of testing.

[jellywrestler]

is this gonna be the OFFICIAL motogp thread for the whole new season?

all that will achieve is getting me to read hundreds and hundreds of stuff about the moto gp then i will be hooked and have to go.....
fine by me

[BMWST?]

well i reckon it should be ,it got exactly the right title!

[pritch]

But there will be testing. Lots of testing.

And rule changes. Lots of rule changes.

They may finally have killed off all the silly dawdling around on track that occurred in Moto3 by going to a Q1 & Q2 system. Mike Webb will go to bed with a happy smile thinking, "Try cruising round at walking speed now you little bastards".

[Autech]

And rule changes. Lots of rule changes.

They may finally have killed off all the silly dawdling around on track that occurred in Moto3 by going to a Q1 & Q2 system. Mike Webb will go to bed with a happy smile thinking, "Try cruising round at walking speed now you little bastards".

Ahhh but they are now concerned it will happen more in FP3. I think Mike should install a rocket up the arse of each racer and if they slow down hit a button to speed em up

[Oscar]

And rule changes. Lots of rule changes.

They may finally have killed off all the silly dawdling around on track that occurred in Moto3 by going to a Q1 & Q2 system. Mike Webb will go to bed with a happy smile thinking, "Try cruising round at walking speed now you little bastards".

Last I saw him, I suggested that he use the F1 system where riders get dropped out regularly based on their times.
So with 30 minutes to go in the last session, all but the top 20 are out, then the top 15 after another 10 minutes, then you have a 10 minute top ten shootout.
Let's see them dawdle then...

[Autech]

Testing thoughts:

JL looking good on the Honda already, apparently very smooth, everyone says that it needs to be ridden like a lunatic but Dani got it to stay nice n smooth so JL may very well be able to ride it thus.
Franco fucking fast on the Yamaha, he will give the other Yamaha boys a head ache next year I am pretty sure
Zarco looking not so fast on the KTM, be hard to step back from a refined Jap bike to a raw KTM
Bagniaia, Mir and Quatararo showing their talent
Jack Miller also showing his talent, he's raving about how good the bike is.

Yamaha looking fast in Mav's hands, but he's always fast in testing then it falls to shit later on so I won't hold my breath.

Going to be a long off season :(

[SaferRides]

Honda potentially have a problem because their factory riders are both a little broken at the moment and Crutchlow is some way off being fit.

They still have Nakagami and Bradl but that's not the same as having their top riders.

[Brett]

I haven't been to a Moto GP as yet and reckon given others enthusiasm for them they're probably a good show?
I'm thinking I should get my arse along to one in 2019 Figuring you lot would be able to enlighten me on to which meeting is the best one and why? Might as well get the inside info after all if i'm going to one...

I have done a few through Aussie, Italy and Spain. The atmosphere in Italy and Spain (particularly Misano and Valencia) is next level, particularly if you are a Rossi fan.

Aussie/Philip Island I personally think is the best track - you can move freely around the track to view form various vantage points, the scenery is amazing and watching the bikes come down the front straight tipping into the corner at over 320kph is mindblowing. If you have a big budget go Europe and make it a bigger trip, if you want a raw MotoGP experience on a budget that will still deliver every little bit of excitement and experience, go PI/Australia.

If you are a MotoGP nut - your first race will be a memorable experience. I try and do one every year now.

[sugilite]

Wow, the rookies are impressing in testing!

[pritch]

Herewith the lists of those doing their best to deplete the world's supply of carbon fibre.

[Autech]

Herewith the lists of those doing their best to deplete the world's supply of carbon fibre.

Sam Lowes true to form...

[Autech]

Back on the right thread I hope

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/911445/1/petrucci-fastest-buildup-big-chance-continues

Got to admire Petrux for seizing the opportunity knowing damn well that he has two riders in the form of Miller and Bagniaia lining up looking very greedily at his seat and Ducati no doubt throwing feelers at Marquez every year.
Lets hope he can pull something out of the bag so we all don't sit here going "I told you so" next year when one of them take his seat and he fucks off to Aprilia or somewhere.

Jerez testing hasn't shown too much yet other than Zarco is still slower than Pol and the rookies are looking good bar Olivera, who to be fair isn't far off his team mate on a satellite version of the worst bike on the grid. Big Olivera fan so hopefully he doesn't get bogged down in the long term by a shitty ride.

[merv]

I am sure Honda would be very pleased if they could get their Japanese boy to perform closer to the front of the pack and his test wasn't too bad.

[Autech]

I am sure Honda would be very pleased if they could get their Japanese boy to perform closer to the front of the pack and his test wasn't too bad.

He's been the quiet achiever I think of 2018. Just plodding away doing his work outside of the lime light but getting solid results.
Japan would do well to have a rider in a factory team winning champs on one of their bikes. It's hard when there is so many impressive Iti and Spa riders though to make room for a rider that may not have a talent but has the passport.

[BMWST?]

apparently he is on Cals factory bike

[pritch]

VR and MV have been testing two engines, both like the first of the two they tried. MV approves of the way it uses the rear tyre. Rossi says, It’s not enough, it’s a fourth place bike... if someone else doesn’t finish.

Rossi does have a way with words.

[SaferRides]

Watched a few videos on the MotoGP website yesterday. There was one with Marquez talking about his new teammate. But the best part was never seen before footage of him doing a lap of Jerez keeping the wheels in line the entire time!

Apparently he is under strict orders not to crash before he has surgery on his left shoulder next week.

[pritch]

Apparently he is under strict orders not to crash before he has surgery on his left shoulder next week.

That may account for why he has the second fastest time at the test. His Japanese team mate finished top. The first fifteen were all within a second IIRC.

KTM suffered chatter in mammoth proportions. The pundits say it's so bad that the only cure will be a completely new frame.

Ducati have been trying some strange things, aero back ends, sensors everywhere, a peculiar parallelogram arrangement on the rear wheel. Both Petrucci and Miller did their fastest times with that fitted.

[SaferRides]

Ducati have been trying some strange things, aero back ends, sensors everywhere, a peculiar parallelogram arrangement on the rear wheel. Both Petrucci and Miller did their fastest times with that fitted.

That’s interesting - it will be to feed the braking force into the frame instead of the swingarm. Perhaps an indication of how much they are using the rear brake these days.

It’s great how Ducati try all this stuff.

[sugilite]

He's been the quiet achiever I think of 2018. Just plodding away doing his work outside of the lime light but getting solid results.
Japan would do well to have a rider in a factory team winning champs on one of their bikes. It's hard when there is so many impressive Iti and Spa riders though to make room for a rider that may not have a talent but has the passport.

He is Pleased with Cals 2018 bike to the point of fastest laptime of the day at this years final test! I see he got 6th overall for the years championship, and yes a quiet achiver for sure. Interesting to see Lorenzo got the 4th fastest time. Bodes well for him. I still think he is an obnoxious prick, but a bloody fast obnoxious prick!

And KTM is just wasting time trying to get a steel tube frame working, Ducati tried for years and years at motogp level and failed, what makes KTM think they will crack it?

[pritch]

And KTM is just wasting time trying to get a steel tube frame working, Ducati tried for years and years at motogp level and failed, what makes KTM think they will crack it?

Manufacturers like their race machinery to have a connection to their production bikes. Ducati currently have something of a publicity campaign explaining to the faithful why they are using a V4 in WSBK.

According to Ducati there are so many welds in a trellis frame that no two are exactly alike. Time is short, if KTM don't have the answer it might be best to buy in a delta box design from a specialist frame manufacturer. I seem to recall Ducati did that to get them over a hump.

[carbonhed]

And KTM is just wasting time trying to get a steel tube frame working, Ducati tried for years and years at motogp level and failed, what makes KTM think they will crack it?

No no... apparently you'd have to be stupid to think KTM aren't going to win a race any day now. At least that's what I was told at the start of 2018. Funnily enough when I offered
a $50 bet if they managed to win a dry race in '18 '19 the certainty evaporated. :msn-wink:

Why is Rossi turning his nose up at a fourth place bike if somebody crashes? I'd have thought that was a perfect match :lol:

[roogazza]

I was thinkin maybe Zarco has to start developing the KTM now that BwadleySmiff has finished fucking with it ??? Too soon ??????? :msn-wink::msn-wink: :laugh::shifty: :rolleyes:

I'd hate to have another year without Yamahas up front somewhere.
(the swords will be coming out in Japan surely ?)

[Autech]

He's been the quiet achiever I think of 2018. Just plodding away doing his work outside of the lime light but getting solid results.
Japan would do well to have a rider in a factory team winning champs on one of their bikes. It's hard when there is so many impressive Iti and Spa riders though to make room for a rider that may not have a talent but has the passport.


He is Pleased with Cals 2018 bike to the point of fastest laptime of the day at this years final test! I see he got 6th overall for the years championship, and yes a quiet achiver for sure. Interesting to see Lorenzo got the 4th fastest time. Bodes well for him. I still think he is an obnoxious prick, but a bloody fast obnoxious prick!

And KTM is just wasting time trying to get a steel tube frame working, Ducati tried for years and years at motogp level and failed, what makes KTM think they will crack it?

Taka must be on this forum and have read that post. Good shit they should give him Cals bike next year :2thumbsup

[pritch]

I was thinkin maybe Zarco has to start developing the KTM now

I got the impression that the KTMs have a new frame (Maybe a whole new bike?) so it's likely none of the riders have seen it before these tests.



I'd hate to have another year without Yamahas up front somewhere.


Me too.

[SaferRides]

Taka must be on this forum and have read that post. Good shit they should give him Cals bike next year :2thumbsupI thought he was getting Cal's old bike and Cal will have a 2019?

So there are just the 4 Hondas next season?

[BMWST?]

I thought he was getting Cal's old bike and Cal will have a 2019?

So there are just the 4 Hondas next season?

he has got Cals bike because Cal is out injured

[Autech]

he has got Cals bike because Cal is out injuredI think it may be Cal's 18 bike he is on though.

Must be a good step tween the 17 and 18 for him to improve so much

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[BMWST?]

I think it may be Cal's 18 bike he is on though.

Must be a good step tween the 17 and 18 for him to improve so much

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You are correct the 18 bike is much better than the 17,see how fast morbidelli is on a compromised Yamaha in comparison to a 17 rcv.

[SaferRides]

From the man himself:

"From the Valencia test we've kept on Cal's 2018 bike. It's difficult to say how many percent [it's better]but it's a big jump," said Nakagami.

"The power delivery has improved a lot, especially middle to top [RPM] you can feel more power. On the bottom end it feels a little more easy to ride, more sweet, and that's why with the used tyre the lap time is much more consistent than last year and with a high level. Many '38s, many low '39s.

"Here we've tried to focus on the rear grip. The set-up is improving and the feeling is better than yesterday. So it's quite simple to make a positive or negative and I'm really happy about the result.

"Especially the rear grip on exit of the corner. From the apex to the first part of turning and we'll try to keep working on this area."

[pritch]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/motogp-2019s-biggest-battle-ducati-v-honda

[BMWST?]

Now thats its 2019 Jlo is able to talk about the honda and the ducati. His initial thoughts are that the Honda is a lower and shorter bike
therefore gives him more confidence.
From Moto Matters (https://motomatters.com/press_release/2019/01/02/repsol_honda_press_release_jorge_lorenzo.html)

[george formby]

I wonder how Honda will handle it if both of their Aliens are winning races? This could be a bizarre season and I predict many toys will be hurt.

[SaferRides]

I expect this will be a learning year for JLo, and Honda. Next season should be when the fun really starts.

[sugilite]

Going from his test times, and his experience of adapting to a even harder bike to adapt too over the past two seasons will have him challenging MM a lot sooner than many may have been anticipating.

[carbonhed]

Going from his test times, and his experience of adapting to a even harder bike to adapt too over the past two seasons will have him challenging MM a lot sooner than many may have been anticipating.

I hope you're right. What a team that could be... if they can refrain from punching each others lights out :-)

[AllanB]

Fuck it. I'm going Rossi for the title.

He will have a Zen moment and realise it's not the bike, it's the inner calm required to extract the most out if it.

[george formby]

Fuck it. I'm going Rossi for the title.

He will have a Zen moment and realise it's not the bike, it's the inner calm required to extract the most out if it.


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: +1

Achieving a state of Nirvana with orange plastic sprinkles?

Yamaha have been very quiet.

[WALRUS]

I'm forever hopeful for Rossi to score another, I've been a fan since '97 but I'm skeptical.. Still, fingers crossed eh?

[george formby]

I'm forever hopeful for Rossi to score another, I've been a fan since '97 but I'm skeptical.. Still, fingers crossed eh?

I doubt their would be any nails on those fingers. Would love to see him go out a champion.

Who is the next oldest factory rider?

[george formby]

Meanwhile, nothing to do with MotoGP but I suspect it may be enjoyed by a few. Some racing, Oyrish GP.

I reckon the video is not 100% right, but, meh.

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[Dave-]

That’s interesting - it will be to feed the braking force into the frame instead of the swingarm. Perhaps an indication of how much they are using the rear brake these days.

It’s great how Ducati try all this stuff.

I think it's for decoupling the rear brake from the suspension movement?

If you hold on the front brake and compress the suspension the rear wheel must rotate, if you hold on the rear brake this will stop the suspension from compressing (unless the tyre slips) so this device rolls the brake back with the suspension so that the brake is still fixed, but can move around the disc relative to the movement of the suspension.

I'm sure I've seen it before on older bikes? even mountain bikes?

Yeah nah?

[Mental Trousers]

Ducati have been trying some strange things, aero back ends, sensors everywhere, a peculiar parallelogram arrangement on the rear wheel. Both Petrucci and Miller did their fastest times with that fitted.

That’s interesting - it will be to feed the braking force into the frame instead of the swingarm. Perhaps an indication of how much they are using the rear brake these days.

It’s great how Ducati try all this stuff.

I think it's for decoupling the rear brake from the suspension movement?

If you hold on the front brake and compress the suspension the rear wheel must rotate, if you hold on the rear brake this will stop the suspension from compressing (unless the tyre slips) so this device rolls the brake back with the suspension so that the brake is still fixed, but can move around the disc relative to the movement of the suspension.

I'm sure I've seen it before on older bikes? even mountain bikes?

Yeah nah?

Matt Oxley's write up (https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/motogp-2019s-biggest-battle-ducati-v-honda).


While Dall’Igna works on the details he also thinks outside the box, which explains the parallelogram rear end that Dovizioso, Petrucci and Pramac GP19 rider Jack Miller tried at Jerez last month. This gizmo squats the rear end during braking to increase rear grip, which could give Ducati a major advantage in 2019.

Riders already exceed 100 per cent of front braking grip – locking the front tyre into most corners – so if Dovizioso can use the rear brake and rear tyre to increase stopping power he should be able to out-brake anyone. But if Ducati’s so-called FUBAR works, expect Honda, Yamaha and everyone else to fit their own very soon.

It actually forces the rear to squat.

[BMWST?]

I think it's for decoupling the rear brake from the suspension movement?

If you hold on the front brake and compress the suspension the rear wheel must rotate, if you hold on the rear brake this will stop the suspension from compressing (unless the tyre slips) so this device rolls the brake back with the suspension so that the brake is still fixed, but can move around the disc relative to the movement of the suspension.

I'm sure I've seen it before on older bikes? even mountain bikes?

Yeah nah?
yeah i think every dirt bike has that set up.

[pritch]

So Mat Oxley explained something this morning that hitherto had been a mystery, to me at least. I had wondered how, just a couple of years after Marquez won the Moto2 title on a Suter, there were hardly any Suters in the field.

Apparently the Suter was a stiff and rather awkward bike to ride and it needed the aggressive physical riding style of Marquez. Also Suter himself had been favouring some teams over others, which when that became public, caused teams to look elsewhere.
Apparently Kalex noticed the fall out and they have been very careful to treat everybody the same.

[speights_bud]

yeah i think every dirt bike has that set up.I think there is a difference in setup types? . The direct shock setup KTM uses (PDS?) definitely prohibits the front suspension from compressing with rear brake applied. Found that the hard way when I adjusted and the caliper heated with use and started dragging.

I think a linkage system works better at preventing this problem?

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[BMWST?]

I think there is a difference in setup types? . The direct shock setup KTM uses (PDS?) definitely prohibits the front suspension from compressing with rear brake applied. Found that the hard way when I adjusted and the caliper heated with use and started dragging.

I think a linkage system works better at preventing this problem?

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my observation is that ducati has a torque arm which prevents the caliper rotating on the axle when the rear brake is applied.The torque arm mounts to the frame whereas the other bikes calipers feed the torque into the swingarm which inhibits rearsuspension movement.AFAIK its called a fully floating rear brake

[SaferRides]

This of course matters to Ducati riders because they use the rear brake all the time. Slight exaggeration, maybe not 5th and 6th in s straight line, but otherwise they're on the back brake.

I think George will love the Honda!

[ecko_nzed]

Dani in the wars


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[Dadpole]

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=340332&d=1547327381 ...... :rofl:

[carbonhed]

:rofl:

Unfortunately their less than impressive moustaches are significantly quicker than Eugene's. :msn-wink:

[Dadpole]

Unfortunately their less than impressive moustaches are significantly quicker than Eugene's. :msn-wink:

That is a very good point. How much does a Laverty moustache weigh? And what are it's aerodynamic properties?

Never guess it is the off season would you?

[carbonhed]

That is a very good point. How much does a Laverty moustache weigh? And what are it's aerodynamic properties?

Never guess it is the off season would you?

The fastest moustache of the MotoGP era?

Bored :wait:

[Dadpole]

Biaggi springs to my mind, or was that fashion accessory in post MotoGP years?

[steveyb]

If anyone is wondering where the Marlboro red has gone, it is still there, just changed hue.
The new 'sponsor' on the bike is Mission Winnow.
What is that you ask?
Funnily enough, it is just Phillip Morris International in another guise, trying to tell everyone that they are attempting to innovate across the board for the benefit of the worlds 1.1 billion smokers.
I've seen some cynical shit in this life, but this........

[carbonhed]

If anyone is wondering where the Marlboro red has gone, it is still there, just changed hue.
The new 'sponsor' on the bike is Mission Winnow.
What is that you ask?
Funnily enough, it is just Phillip Morris International in another guise, trying to tell everyone that they are attempting to innovate across the board for the benefit of the worlds 1.1 billion smokers.
I've seen some cynical shit in this life, but this........

I think this guy nails it quite nicely.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAAVLcMzr4

[pritch]

Rather than just the one item, here's several: https://motomatters.com

Alex Briggs got home from Japan yesterday, presumably from building the 2019 Yamahas.

[merv]

More fool Ducati, they lower the height of the tank on the 2018 bike, Lorenzo said he didn't like it and wanted to be able to grip it with his legs properly so they take 6 months to give him what he asked for, meanwhile it is all his fault he can't make the bike perform. Funny how all that turned out. It will be interesting to see how he goes with HRC and with Marc as a team mate for sure.

[pritch]

It has been announced that JL has fractured a scaphoid bone in training and will undergo surgery today. MM has been posting photos implying that he has good mobility in his shoulder but it does seem both Repsol riders will start the season injured.

[roogazza]

It has been announced that JL has fractured a scaphoid bone in training and will undergo surgery today. MM has been posting photos implying that he has good mobility in his shoulder but it does seem both Repsol riders will start the season injured.

I haven't seen much coming from the Yamaha camp ? Hopefully everything is in place to wow us ?

[pritch]

I haven't seen much coming from the Yamaha camp ? Hopefully everything is in place to wow us ?

Alex Briggs posted pictures while working in Japan last week but none of the bikes. Once his labours were completed it seems he did a tour of hardware shops looking at tools, and golf shops just 'cause.

At least there is no news of injuries.

[WALRUS]

If anyone is wondering where the Marlboro red has gone, it is still there, just changed hue.
The new 'sponsor' on the bike is Mission Winnow.
What is that you ask?
Funnily enough, it is just Phillip Morris International in another guise, trying to tell everyone that they are attempting to innovate across the board for the benefit of the worlds 1.1 billion smokers.
I've seen some cynical shit in this life, but this........

https://imgur.com/a/yBIQR1X

Illuminati confirmed! Get your tin foil hats folks or reading words on a motorcycle will make you smoke cigarettes!!

[pritch]

Honda winter testing may be handicapped, with both Repsol riders and apparently also Crutchlow recovering from surgery or injury. Bradl may be their only fit rider.

[pritch]

Overnight our time was the Repsol team launch. This year Repsol and Honda are celebrating 25 years of partnership, and what a partnership: "168 victories in the premier class, 14 World Championships, 427 podiums, 182 fastest laps and 177 pole positions".

Unlike Ducati, Honda are not waiting months to give JL a special tank, his new bike has a sculpted artwork of a tank. Well, it isn't a tank at all, but YKWIM...

https://motomatters.com/press_release/2019/01/23/press_release_repsol_honda_present_25th.html

[WALRUS]

I liked Repsol's video comparing Doohan and Criville's NSR's to the current RCV's.. I believe the quote was along the lines of "as you can see, they are all the same" as they crossed the line together with great choreography!

So the newest Honda GP bike is no faster than an old bloke on a 20 year old NSR, great press haha ;)

[pritch]

Mat Oxley has been talking to riders:

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/how-i-ride-aleix-espargar

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/how-i-ride-johann-zarco

Then there's this, which is lovely but...

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/motorcycles/hailwood-and-minter-s-mv-agusta-heads-auction

[carbonhed]

Sepang test feb 6 - 8.Looking forward to it.

[SaferRides]

Why do they test at Sepang?

[BMWST?]

Why do they test at Sepang?
because most of europe is in the middle of winter

[pritch]

because most of europe is in the middle of winter

Yeah, there is snow in parts of Europe and Britain. It's not the comfort level that's a concern, the tyres wouldn't work.

Could be worse, could be Chicago that's like the North Pole currently.

[SaferRides]

It's quite a unique track and a long way from Europe, but I suppose even in Spain it's too wintry.

We will get to see who's found more power!

[BMWST?]

It's quite a unique track and a long way from Europe, but I suppose even in Spain it's too wintry.

We will get to see who's found more power!
they have already had two tests in spain,Valencia in November straight after the last race and one at Jerez 1 week later

[pritch]

We will get to see who's found more power!

Perhaps. All three Honda factory riders are in recovery mode following surgery/injury and others may not yet be 100%.

That's something that was overlooked when the suggestion was first made to go to a twenty round series. There were objections that the seaon was long enough.
"But the F1 drivers can do it," they said.
The F1 drivers don't take the knocks that the riders do though.

Rossi's reaction will be interesting. I seem to recall that there has been a change at the top of the Yamaha engineering management tree. The guy who was in charge wasn't making much progress and he's been moved on. Yamaha say it's just routine staff changes, but they would.

[SaferRides]

Rossi's reaction will be interesting. I seem to recall that there has been a change at the top of the Yamaha engineering management tree. The guy who was in charge wasn't making much progress and he's been moved on. Yamaha say it's just routine staff changes, but they would.Not sure if you've seen this, but Vinales doesn't mention electronics at all.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/how-i-ride-maverick-vi-ales

Very interesting series of interviews.

[pritch]

Not sure if you've seen this, but Vinales doesn't mention electronics at all.



I hadn't, but I've been reading the others. Not quite sure where you're going with that. The Yamaha problems go beyond electronics, although they have now poached a man to help with that.

Another absentee at the Sepang test. KTM's new test rider, Dani Pedrosa, is also recovering from surgery and will not be present.
The factory test riders are working before the team riders start testing.

Interestingly the photo of Pedrosa that accompanied his post showed him in a beanie with what appeared to be snow on it. Sepang may well be the right place to be climate wise.

[SaferRides]

I hadn't, but I've been reading the others. Not quite sure where you're going with that. The Yamaha problems go beyond electronics, although they have now poached a man to help with that.

Another absentee at the Sepang test. KTM's new test rider, Dani Pedrosa, is recovering from surgery and will not be present.
The factory test riders are working before the team riders start testing.I mentioned that because Rossi spent almost all of last season complaing about the electronics.

I must have missed this, but Petronas are getting the 2019 R1, not a year old bike like Tech3 did.

[pritch]

I mentioned that because Rossi spent almost all of last season complaing about the electronics.

MV says right at the start of that Oxley interview that he never rode with the good electronics so he didn't miss them.

Yamaha were slow off the mark. Everybody else poached staff from Magnetti Marelli but Yamaha thought they knew better and they were suffering. There were other problems with engine internals that couldn't be changed and the factory generally didn't seem to have any answers.

Now they have a new electronics guy, and there is a new engineer in charge but he's only just got the job.
I hope all of that doesn't just mean that the Yamaha will be great next year (2020).


I must have missed this, but Petronas are getting the 2019 R1, not a year old bike like Tech3 did.

Interesting, that would be a big departure.

[carbonhed]

I must have missed this, but Petronas are getting the 2019 R1, not a year old bike like Tech3 did.

Isn't it only Morbidelli getting full spec bike?

[BMWST?]

MV says right at the start of that Oxley interview that he never rode with the good electronics so he didn't miss them.

Yamaha were slow off the mark. Everybody else poached staff from Magnetti Marelli but Yamaha thought they knew better and they were suffering. There were other problems with engine internals that couldn't be changed and the factory generally didn't seem to have any answers.

Now they have a new electronics guy, and there is a new engineer in charge but he's only just got the job.
I hope all of that doesn't just mean that the Yamaha will be great next year (2020).



Interesting, that would be a big departure.


Isn't it only Morbidelli getting full spec bike?

its all about the money.If teh 3 fronted up with the $$$$ they (maybe)could have had up tp date bikes too.But it may also be the fact that Yamaha think that more input may be beneficial,but they need to be working of the same platform for that to be relevant

[george formby]

its all about the money.If teh 3 fronted up with the $$$$ they (maybe)could have had up tp date bikes too.But it may also be the fact that Yamaha think that more input may be beneficial,but they need to be working of the same platform for that to be relevant

Yup, parallel development. It's been done before.

Kinda implies that Yamaha is still struggling.

[pritch]

Kinda implies that Yamaha is still struggling.

Could be.

Honda have run a third factory bike on occasions, currently Crutchlow has one. Yamaha though have consistently refused to supply a third factory rider, in recent years at least. Things may change with the SkyVR46 MotoGP team somewhere just over the horizon. It's hard to imagine them not running Yamaha but...

I hope Yamaha can pull a rabbit out of their hat, we might get a hint over the next few days?

[Drew]

Testing often shows skewed results. Teams will do some really weird shit to get data.

[BMWST?]

Could be.

Honda have run a third factory bike on occasions, currently Crutchlow has one. Yamaha though have consistently refused to supply a third factory rider, in recent years at least. Things may change with the SkyVR46 MotoGP team somewhere just over the horizon. It's hard to imagine them not running Yamaha but...

I hope Yamaha can pull a rabbit out of their hat, we might get a hint over the next few days?

maybe splitting hairs ,i dont think they have refused to supply one,its just that Tech 3 couldnt afford them

[SaferRides]

maybe splitting hairs ,i dont think they have refused to supply one,its just that Tech 3 couldnt afford themMy understanding is that Tech3 wanted more factory support but Yamaha wasn't interested. That's why Tech3 changed to KTM.

Looks like Petronas have a bit more leverage, could well be $$$. Morbidelli is very happy with his new bike, so it will be interesting to see how they go in 2019.

[Reckless]

Yup, parallel development. It's been done before.

Kinda implies that Yamaha is still struggling.

Petronas are getting a 2019 bike because the 18 is shit and Yamaha don't want it out there struggling round and Yamaha being bad mouthed by the riders even indirectly.
I'd be telling them to shove the deal if it was last years Yamaha.
They are hoping the 19 bike will solve some/all of the Issues I reckon? Time will tell :)

[pritch]

maybe splitting hairs ,i dont think they have refused to supply one,its just that Tech 3 couldnt afford them

Can't remember who it was for, but I do seem to recall a suggestion, or request, that a third rider receive a factory bike but the reply was to the effect that Yamaha only do two.

[george formby]

Petronas are getting a 2019 bike because the 18 is shit and Yamaha don't want it out there struggling round and Yamaha being bad mouthed by the riders even indirectly.
I'd be telling them to shove the deal if it was last years Yamaha.
They are hoping the 19 bike will solve some/all of the Issues I reckon? Time will tell :)

Indeed. I hope they are back in to the thick of it this year.

[WALRUS]

New factory Yamaha livery for 2k19... Looks like now that Tech3 has moved to Red Bull, Yammie can fully embrace having Monster in big letters everywhere!

https://cdn-2.motorsport.com/images/amp/0ZRmrjo0/s6/motogp-yamaha-team-launch-2019-2.jpg

[Mental Trousers]

I must have missed this, but Petronas are getting the 2019 R1, not a year old bike like Tech3 did.

Interesting, that would be a big departure.

It's the only way there was ever going to be a 3rd or even 4th factory bike on the grid. Tech 3 were never seen as a team to test stuff for the factory, they were more of a customer who got the old, worn out stuff.



Isn't it only Morbidelli getting full spec bike?

its all about the money.If teh 3 fronted up with the $$$$ they (maybe)could have had up tp date bikes too.But it may also be the fact that Yamaha think that more input may be beneficial,but they need to be working of the same platform for that to be relevant

Money was only part of it. Changing the relationship between the factory and Tech 3 was required, which needed a lot more than just money.

[SaferRides]

New factory Yamaha livery for 2k19... Looks like now that Tech3 has moved to Red Bull, Yammie can fully embrace having Monster in big letters everywhere!

https://cdn-2.motorsport.com/images/amp/0ZRmrjo0/s6/motogp-yamaha-team-launch-2019-2.jpgDoesn't look like a Yamaha - should be blue. Rossi and Mac now look like Tech3 riders.

I should admit that I still don't like the Repsol Hondas ...

[WALRUS]

Yamaha hasn't always been blue. They were Red and White for many, many, many years. Yellow and black for many more. I'm glad to see there's going to be a bit of difference this year, it was starting to be a bit "rinse and repeat" livery wise for the last few years.

That being said, I'm pretty sure Repsol Honda still look exactly the same? It's a big anniversary for them, you'd think they'd at least break out a Doohan/Criville design or something, you know?

[pritch]

That being said, I'm pretty sure Repsol Honda still look exactly the same? It's a big anniversary for them, you'd think they'd at least break out a Doohan/Criville design or something, you know?

Repsol should be OK, but if any of the other sponsors were HB, Rothmans, Lucky Strike or Camel etc, that could create a problem.

[WALRUS]

Fair call, I reckon if they did this sort of thing, that'd be sweet! Maybe just for the first round or the Motegi round or sumfink.

https://i1.wp.com/motomalaya.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/wpid-honda-nsr-500-doohan-1995.jpg2.jpeg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1

Like when after several years, the factory/Ten Kate Honda team in WSBK went back to a Castrol livery (also when Crutchlow changed to Castrol).. So good!

[george formby]

I reckon Yamaha would clean up if they went back to the yellow and black livery. Dunno why, but I love it.

Just sayin, as you were.

[SaferRides]

Isn't it only Morbidelli getting full spec bike?From crash.net

Both Franco Morbidelli and Fabio Quartararo will now have 2019 bikes. However, Morbidelli's A spec will get updates just two-four races after the factory team, with a delay of around six or seven races for rookie Quartararo.
Crash.net understands that the main difference for Quartararo's (cheaper) B spec bike is that he will have only five engine changes per season, instead of the seven changes allowed.
That means Quartararo will have less RPM than the other three Yamaha riders in order to lengthen the life of his engines.

[carbonhed]

From crash.net

Both Franco Morbidelli and Fabio Quartararo will now have 2019 bikes. However, Morbidelli's A spec will get updates just two-four races after the factory team, with a delay of around six or seven races for rookie Quartararo.
Crash.net understands that the main difference for Quartararo's (cheaper) B spec bike is that he will have only five engine changes per season, instead of the seven changes allowed.
That means Quartararo will have less RPM than the other three Yamaha riders in order to lengthen the life of his engines.

Cool. Thanks for that.

[husaberg]

I reckon Yamaha would clean up if they went back to the yellow and black livery. Dunno why, but I love it.

Just sayin, as you were.

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[WALRUS]

Timeless livery!

[husaberg]

timeless livery!
USGP 2005 Yamaha's 50th anniversary.
https://www.hiroboy.com/thumbnail/1200x1200/userfiles/images/sys/products/Yamaha_YZR500_Kenny_Roberts_Yellow_Paint_60ml_9221 0.jpeg

i always preferred the 60's Suzuki scheme stolen of MZ
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7073/7109599819_09bda4f34c_b.jpg

[SaferRides]

Not sure who was going for a fast time, but Marquez was fastest on Day 1 at Sepang. Rins 2nd and Vinales 3rd.

[pritch]

https://motomatters.com/results/2019/02/06/2019_sepang_motogp_test_wednesday_final.html

Puig has added to the HRC injured list, he broke his arm while riding a dirt bike.

Crutchlow has a load of metal in his injured ankle with one of the plates trying to push its way out through his skin. He's wearing a boot two sizes bigger on that foot. Nobody doubts he's brave but the situation hardly seems satisfactory.

Rabat was the surprise of the day. Good for him, he works hard.

Rossi is reported happier than at the last test.

[pritch]

Crutchlows ankle was broken in seventeen places, he has 1Kg of steel in his leg. The attachment is not pretty.

[Reckless]

Crutchlows ankle was broken in seventeen places, he has 1Kg of steel in his leg. The attachment is not pretty.

Jeepers not good :( I wonder how much movement is left after that lot???

[Autech]

I would also say Olivera being above Zarco is worth a mention too.

Good shit! Zarco just keeping that seat warm for him I reckon :D

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[SaferRides]

Looks like Zarco will have a difficult year. Apparently he was shocked how bad the KTM was.

Would be interesting to hear Dani's comments, but I'm sure we won't.

[Autech]

Looks like Zarco will have a difficult year. Apparently he was shocked how bad the KTM was.

Would be interesting to hear Dani's comments, but I'm sure we won't.Not till his collarbone is healed anyways. Thing must be made from powder by now

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[SaferRides]

Jeepers not good :( I wonder how much movement is left after that lot???There are a few places you never want to crash. Turn 1 at PI would be near the top of the list.

I hope Cal recovers OK.

[george formby]

Timeless livery!

Indeed. My fav.

[carbonhed]

Crafar's doing some good work. Nice interview with Herve Poncharal.

[SaferRides]

The afternoons are very hot, so fast times are either early in the day or just before the end. Rossi can only do a few laps at a time in the heat!

Looks like the Yamaha has good single lap pace at least as Vinales nearly set the fastest lap ever on Day 2.

[pritch]

The afternoons are very hot, so fast times are either early in the day or just before the end. Rossi can only do a few laps at a time in the heat!

Looks like the Yamaha has good single lap pace at least as Vinales nearly set the fastest lap ever on Day 2.

Rossi isn't the only one.

MV's lap was really quick, just a few hundredths off JL's record set last year.

There is currently Moto2 testing at Valencia so that snow on Pedro's hat, presumably in Catalonia, doesn't extend the relatively short distance south to Valencia.

[pritch]

Interestingly there is a new rule saying all bikes must be started in pit lane. This rule was introduced following the fire in the Suzuki box last year. The new rule is popular with photographers who will get another chance to photograph the machinery at close range. Unfortunately though, it seems some of the teams are still unaware of the new rule.

[Autech]

Rossi isn't the only one.

MV's lap was really quick, just a few hundredths off JL's record set last year.

There is currently Moto2 testing at Valencia so that snow on Pedro's hat, presumably in Catalonia, doesn't extend the relatively short distance south to Valencia.


The afternoons are very hot, so fast times are either early in the day or just before the end. Rossi can only do a few laps at a time in the heat!

Looks like the Yamaha has good single lap pace at least as Vinales nearly set the fastest lap ever on Day 2.

With regards to MV's pace, the Yamaha always seems to go well when the Moto2 rubber isn't around. At the end of last year they seemed to fix that issue when the practice/quali format changed but I will hold my breath on saying the Yamaha is up to speed until we see them out with some thick Dunlop rubber on the ground.

Zarco fastest KTM on day 2 I see, I will take back my Olivera comment :D

[pritch]

Further to my comment about the new engine start up rule being ignored; Jack Miller's Ducati caught fire in pit lane today apparently. That presumably means the new rule will be brought to the attention of all and sundry.

[pritch]

From Mat Oxley, "Petrucci just rode the fastest-ever lap at Sepang, at 1m 58.239s, almost 0.6s faster than the previous testing/QP record, and I think it was while using the FUBAR"

The "Fubar" is that low bar leading back toward the rear axle that we have discussed previously. If he was using that, it certainly doesn't fit the name.

[husaberg]

From Mat Oxley, "Petrucci just rode the fastest-ever lap at Sepang, at 1m 58.239s, almost 0.6s faster than the previous testing/QP record, and I think it was while using the FUBAR"

The "Fubar" is that low bar leading back toward the rear axle that we have discussed previously. If he was using that, it certainly doesn't fit the name.

I think the key word is think
While i was trying to finfd the quote i fouind the bit where Petru spent 20 laps following Dovi in a test to find out how to go fast without chewing tyres.

Having a look at the fubar at the caliper end its on a slide to be adjustable to i would say feed diferent amounts of Brack torque back to frame it looks to slick to just allow for the Chain tension to me.


The idea of the floating brake toque arm t the brake toque arm is with it attached to the main chassis it doesn't feed the torque into the rear suspension.
This was mainly a MX thing in the 70's and leading link before it.
But the fubar is different it does something extra Shit even RS125 of 1991 had a floating brake rod.
I wonder if it putting in some torque to squat the suspension still. but an adjustable amount or something else.
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Interestingly further back down Mat mention t=what he thought was a holeshot device like a MX bike on the forks
On the MX bikes a few years ago the added one to the rear to lock the back for starts
So maybe this Fubar also does this.
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[pritch]

Oxley possibly used the word "think" because there was a photo from earlier in the day showing Petrux's bike with the Fubar fitted. David Emmett is on site, but most of the other pundits are doing their guess work long distance - like us.

That switch has everybody guessing. Some think it's a "hole shot" device. Others think it looks to be electrical but electrically controlled suspension would breach the rules. GiGi is not silly though, so speculation is rife.

[husaberg]

Oxley possibly used the word "think" because there was a photo from earlier in the day showing Petrux's bike with the Fubar fitted. David Emmett is on site, but most of the other pundits are doing their guess work long distance - like us.

That switch has everybody guessing. Some think it's a "hole shot" device. Others think it looks to be electrical but electrically controlled suspension would breach the rules. GiGi is not silly though, so speculation is rife.

As the elecy stuff is forbotten i would say it has to be a holeshot, esp seeing the weight distribution of the 90 vee wont be as good as the rest.

[SaferRides]

From Mat Oxley, "Petrucci just rode the fastest-ever lap at Sepang, at 1m 58.239s, almost 0.6s faster than the previous testing/QP record.

Well, that's what happens when you follow Dovi for long enough. Marquez followed Dovi for far more than 10 laps last season and won the championship. :)

Edit: No Fubar fitted when he did the fast lap, and he wasn't even trying for a quick time!

[carbonhed]

Well there's some encouraging performances from newbies and bit part players after that test.

Pecco Bagnaia. Holy cow!

Nakagami, Rabat, Morbidelli.

Zarco fastest on the KTM.

Vinales really optimistic.

Ducati must be pretty pleased.

What happened to Iannone?

[pritch]

Edit: No Fubar fitted when he did the fast lap

Yep. Oxley copped to that overnight.



David Emmett's very informative wrap of the test:
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2019/02/08/2019_sepang_motogp_test_friday_notes.html

[husaberg]

Yep. Oxley copped to that overnight.



David Emmett's very informative wrap of the test:
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2019/02/08/2019_sepang_motogp_test_friday_notes.html

Andrea Iannone missing tests due to Plastic surgery.............

[carbonhed]

Andrea Iannone missing tests due to Plastic surgery.............

And I thought you were joking.........

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. :tugger:

[husaberg]

And I thought you were joking.........

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. :tugger:

Sounds crazy, but massive waste of talent with him and his career , i thought Emmett was going to say parting or drinking.
At 29 hes not old but hes following the path of a racer or out of chances close to retirement going off to also ran's rather than top teams.
https://www.gpone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_big_breakpoints_theme_bootstrap_screen-lg-min_1x/public/images/2018/article/foto/01/MotoGP//iannone-belen.jpg

[carbonhed]

He is a caricature of every bad national stereotype of Italy. Vain, lazy, sly... and fat... again... particularly his upper lip :lol:

All he has to do to complete the image is to stab his team mate... in the back... with a stilleto. Watch out Aleix!

[Autech]

As the elecy stuff is forbotten i would say it has to be a holeshot, esp seeing the weight distribution of the 90 vee wont be as good as the rest.Or its just a random knob that does nothing Gigi has put on to keep the journos and other teams busy guessing. He was challenged last year by a journalist to put something bull shit on the bike to fool them lol

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[husaberg]

Or its just a random knob that does nothing Gigi has put on to keep the journos and other teams busy guessing. He was challenged last year by a journalist to put something bull shit on the bike to fool them lol

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Thats what i thought of the winglets
When you said the first part i was thinking it was going to be about Alberto Puig.

Kenny Roberts was known to do that sort of stuff, even throwing blankets over bikes just for giggles.
That said Honda copied Kevin Schwantz RGV500 Frame geometry when the bike was left parked in front of Gardners motorhome by spending hours taking reels of photos through the tinted mirrored windows

[carbonhed]

Or its just a random knob that does nothing Gigi has put on to keep the journos and other teams busy guessing. He was challenged last year by a journalist to put something bull shit on the bike to fool them lol

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The temptation would have been irresistible for me. Plus it's a fucking great wingnut smack dab in the middle of the tripleclamp... maybe it comes with it's own wrench for adjustment?

[onearmedbandit]

Andrea Iannone missing tests due to Plastic surgery.............


And I thought you were joking.........

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. :tugger:

Got a link? Just the word is that he's been on antibiotics for a tooth infection.

[husaberg]

Got a link? Just the word is that he's been on antibiotics for a tooth infection.

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2019/02/08/2019_sepang_motogp_test_friday_notes.html

Right down the bottom


They should have had two riders at the sharp end in Sepang, but Andrea Iannone appears to have found a way to sabotage his career once again. He missed the shakedown test on Sunday, part of the day on Wednesday and Thursday, and all of the final day on Friday. Officially, he was suffering the aftereffects of antibiotics used to treat a tooth infection, but most observers were skeptical of that explanation, to say the least.

The unsubstantiated rumor doing the rounds was that Iannone's problems stemmed from another bout of plastic surgery. Compare pictures of him from now, or from late 2018, to those taken while he was at Ducati in 2015, and he looks like a distant relative. For such a change to be natural seems vanishingly improbable.

And surgery comes with risks. The danger of infection is always present – one of the reasons Marc Márquez stopped riding so early every day was fear of inflammation of his healing shoulder – and the reconfigured bones in the face – modified nose, cheekbones, and jawlines are common – can play havoc with a helmet, the pads pushing bones weakened by surgery into positions they are not supposed to be.

Whether this is the case for Iannone or not is unknown. But Andrea Iannone has more raw talent than almost any other rider on the MotoGP grid. He has won a MotoGP race (no mean feat), and racked up poles and podiums. But he so often seems to find ways to get in the way of his own talent, of messing up chances he is given. Team bosses have a lot of patience with exceptionally gifted riders. But at some point, their patience can dry up.

[onearmedbandit]

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2019/02/08/2019_sepang_motogp_test_friday_notes.html

Right down the bottom

Ah so just speculation. Could be either or really.

[husaberg]

Ah so just speculation. Could be either or really.

Of course, but most times the paddock gossip is pretty well founded.

He does have previous form for it.
https://gpxtra.com/2012/12/11/andrea-iannones-surgery/
The hollywood ones that do admit it all claim deviated septums too.
https://gpxtra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/iannone2-225x300.jpg
including stuff this year.
https://vaaju.com/italyeng/gossip-andrea-iannone-has-inflated-his-mouth-the-spanish-surgeons-view/

[onearmedbandit]

Of course, but most times the paddock gossip is pretty well founded.

He does have previous form for it.
https://gpxtra.com/2012/12/11/andrea-iannones-surgery/
The hollywood ones that do admit it all claim deviated septums too.
https://gpxtra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/iannone2-225x300.jpg
including stuff this year.
https://vaaju.com/italyeng/gossip-andrea-iannone-has-inflated-his-mouth-the-spanish-surgeons-view/

I just prefer to not hang until the facts are in. Talk (rumour) is cheap.

[husaberg]

I just prefer to not hang until the facts are in. Talk (rumour) is cheap.

I wasn't planning on hanging him either way.
The paddock would be pretty boring if they all were Eddie Lawsons and Freddie Spencer's

[carbonhed]

That new top lip looks highly smoochable.

https://blog.motorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Iannone_Ducati.jpg

http://img.speedweek.com/i/c/c6cd1ff99716404b957869d7b0444625.jpg?preset=i750

[husaberg]

That new top lip looks highly smoochable.


Not sure if i would say that but i see three noses 3 sets of lips in three years plus extensive fillers.
Take two
340820

[carbonhed]

Not sure if i would say that but i see three noses 3 sets of lips in three years plus extensive fillers.
340819

Surely that's Dovi in pic 1. Otherwise an amazing transformation :rofl:

ETA my pic of him in his early time at Ducati is the last time he looked at a racing weight IMHO.

[husaberg]

Surely that's Dovi in pic 1. Otherwise an amazing transformation :rofl:

ETA my pic of him in his early time at Ducati is the last time he looked at a racing weight IMHO.

Explains one of the noses.....shit how did i do that, Fixed it, Nah still three different noses, Maybe i should use Biaggi next time.

[carbonhed]

Explains one of the noses.....shit how did i do that, Fixed it, Nah still three different noses, Maybe i should use Biaggi next time.

No you've cracked it. Three different dudes entirely. Which probably explains his racing trajectory.

[husaberg]

No you've cracked it. Three different dudes entirely. Which probably explains his racing trajectory.

I only just noticed how big max got at the end.
340821

[carbonhed]

I only just noticed how big max got at the end.
340821

Aero wasn't such a big consideration obviously.

I found a funny reddit thread about AI's problems. Some choice comments... "a million dollar talent with a 5 cent head"

and my favourite... "Holy shit, the amount of jealous assholes here's astonishing.

True. I wish I had lips like that"

[SaferRides]

In case anyone is wondering, Mission Winnow is the latest attempt by Phillip Morris to get around the tobacco sponsorship ban. They have sponsored Ferrari and Ducati since tobacco sponsorship was banned. Something to do with the colour red.

[BMWST?]

The main point about AI is that he isnt doing what he should be which in the light of MM and CC is relevant

[husaberg]

In case anyone is wondering, Mission Winnow is the latest attempt by Phillip Morris to get around the tobacco sponsorship ban. They have sponsored Ferrari and Ducati since tobacco sponsorship was banned. Something to do with the colour red.

I think what they are selling is legally around the tobacco laws as they stand, although i believe this is not not in the states re selling them anyway not sure re advertising there. The laws are only now catching up re the electric cigarettes and whole vapor thingies.
I was reading a old Motocourse today and it waa basically a 5 page ad for lucky strike but it was meant to be a puff piece celerbrating the end of their 5 years in 500GP 3 with Kenny 2 with Suzuki.
It was almost sickening reading it as it was clearly an advertisement it reminded me of the mission wonslow blurb.

[Autech]

Not sure about anyone else but I can't wait till Qatar this year.
First year my boy Dani won't be racing but the other riders sure are shaping up to give it a good go. If it weren't for Marquez I would happily throw a good 7 names in for the title win :D

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[carbonhed]

Not sure about anyone else but I can't wait till Qatar this year.
First year my boy Dani won't be racing but the other riders sure are shaping up to give it a good go. If it weren't for Marquez I would happily throw a good 7 names in for the title win :D

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I'm really looking forward to the charge to the first corner in Moto2... those hordes of triples should sound immense.

With MM JL and CC injured heading into the start of the season Honda will be on the back foot but the bike seems good. As does the Ducati and maybe Vinales and hopefully the Suzuki and definitely Rins. Expecting good things from Morbidelli and Bagnaia too.

I hope Crutchlow will put it all together and have a great season.

[Reckless]

Looking like the Duc mods might work they are certainly thinking out of the box.
Am with you guys hoping Yamaha and Suzuki can be up there to.

I don't like the twat but think JL will be fast on the Honda. We might see some fireworks over the season there.
MM may not have it all his own way this year?

[Autech]

I'll be cheering on Rins and Miller this year. I am a big fan of Bagniaia but I suspect he doesn't need me cheering him on much at all, if he can win and podium on a slow asf Mahindra he may very well be able to win on a year old satellite bike. I suspect the 2 factory Ducatis are going to be in for a challenge just beating the Pramac boys let alone the other factory teams.
If JL can beat Marquez once or twice too I won't mind too much :D

Going to be epic.

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[carbonhed]

I'll be cheering on Rins and Miller this year. I am a big fan of Bagniaia but I suspect he doesn't need me cheering him on much at all, if he can win and podium on a slow asf Mahindra he may very well be able to win on a year old satellite bike. I suspect the 2 factory Ducatis are going to be in for a challenge just beating the Pramac boys let alone the other factory teams.
If JL can beat Marquez once or twice too I won't mind too much :D

Going to be epic.

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I forgot about Miller. He's looking threatening isn't he? Maybe this year he'll have the bike.

[pritch]

Having seen those photos of Iannone I'm inclined to think that Iannone's tooth infection is similar to Malania Trump's "kidney procedure" which subsequently turned out to be a boob job. The first and last photos don't even look like the same guy. I hope he didn't spend all his money because his GP career is probably nearer the end than the beginning.

Gigi's wing nut has taken some attention away from the Ducati salad box, except that Honda tested a salad box at Sepang. While us peasants are still in the dark as to the function of the Ducati protuberance, parhaps Honda have figured it out and are trying their own?

[husaberg]

Having seen those photos of Iannone I'm inclined to think that Iannone's tooth infection is similar to Malania Trump's "kidney procedure" which subsequently turned out to be a boob job. The first and last photos don't even look like the same guy. I hope he didn't spend all his money because his GP career is probably nearer the end than the beginning.

Gigi's wing nut has taken some attention away from the Ducati salad box, except that Honda tested a salad box at Sepang. While us peasants are still in the dark as to the function of the Ducati protuberance, parhaps Honda have figured it out and are trying their own?

The box if it was a gyro it woulds be in a place furthest for the CG and the polar mass where it would make the most difference.
or if it is a TMD it makes sense to be their.
or it could just be a salad box
https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/888062/1/picture-inside-ducati-salad-box
https://drivetribe.com/p/motogp-what-ducati-keeps-in-its-fSz6IxA9Swi7xd19pIdc0Q?iid=HBBo1GfXSxyZJf2PpNuzYg
340830340831

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=32&v=Aw_3UuvHPmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=339&v=Y1AdUa3Es_s
I seen this piece fom Cammeron about how the Duck could evolve.
https://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/655_1x_/public/import/embedded/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Panigale-Viceversa-illustration-590x393.jpg
https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/11/14/ask-kevin-cameron-would-it-make-sense-for-ducati-to-turn-its-engine-around

[BMWST?]

i have read somewhere in motomatters that it appears as though the Honda is very powerful and easier to manage than before.Both MM and CC havent been pushing corner entry MM because of his shoulder and CC because of his ankle

[Autech]

i have read somewhere in motomatters that it appears as though the Honda is very powerful and easier to manage than before.Both MM and CC havent been pushing corner entry MM because of his shoulder and CC because of his ankleThere was a rumour that MM said to another rider he didn't have to risk anything on the corners as he could just fuck off down the straights.
They were close to the Ducati up to 4th gear last year so if they have found some more grunt then it should be interesting.

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[roogazza]

340836

2019 World Champ !!! Nah, don't care at all.
Just want the Yamahas working and winning a few. :shifty: :laugh:

[husaberg]

340836

2019 World Champ !!! Nah, don't care at all.
Just want the Yamahas working and winning a few. :shifty: :laugh:

Id like tyo see VR win one more GP before he retires.

[Autech]

340836

2019 World Champ !!! Nah, don't care at all.
Just want the Yamahas working and winning a few. :shifty: [emoji23]Hate to say it but he's not getting any younger and the competition is getting even faster.

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[husaberg]

Hate to say it but he's not getting any younger and the competition is getting even faster.

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I know, but he was so close last year to snagging one, and so close in the championship what 3 years ago, or was it 4 now.
Hes still a freak of nature as well as a long streak of piss
To be pushing it at his age is simply amazing i dont blame him for not laying it all on the line its not as if his record doesn't stand for itself.
If MM is going to match VR, he it needs to move manufacturers as well to win on a different make as well. MM also has Lorenzo on the same bike as him now, he needs to beat.

[BMWST?]

I know but he was so close last year to snagging one and so close in the championship what 3 years ago or was it 4 now.
Hes still a freak of nature as well as a long streak of piss
To be pushing it at his age is simply amazing i dont blamer him for not laying it all on the line its not as if his record doesn't stand for itself.
If MM is going to match he it needs to move manufacters as well to win on a different make as well.MM also has lorenzo on the same bike as him now he needs to beat.

i think the competition between Lorenzo and MM can only make the Hondas stronger.If the Yamahas are Better I think it will be MV pushing Yamahas barrow.I think that at the end of last year Yamaha saw that their future lies with MV now

[husaberg]

i think the competition between Lorenzo and MM can only make the Hondas stronger.If the Yamahas are Better I think it will be MV pushing Yamahas barrow.I think that at the end of last year Yamaha saw that their future lies with MV now

The two best riders is a coup, As long as it doesnt end up like a Aprilia 250 situation where all the top riders stole points of each other and honda and Yamaha was able to sneak out a title by having one front runner.
I cant see either George or MM following team orders.

[george formby]

I cant see either George or MM following team orders.

Hopefully so. Honda and the dream team... I foresee handbags at dawn.

With a pack of hungry hounds in hot pursuit.

I've waited two years for this season. Triumph in moto2 and the motogp field getting closer to MM.

If the last few years are anything to go by, this season may cause some spectators to black out from sheer awe.:gob:

Even if it's MM moving up a level.:blink:

[husaberg]

Hopefully so. Honda and the dream team... I foresee handbags at dawn.

With a pack of hungry hounds in hot pursuit.

I've waited two years for this season. Triumph in moto2 and the motogp field getting closer to MM.

If the last few years are anything to go by, this season may cause some spectators to black out from sheer awe.:gob:

Even if it's MM moving up a level.:blink:

The GP2 noise should be pretty cool

[BMWST?]

The two best riders is a coup, As long as it doesnt end up like a Aprilia 250 situation where all the top riders stole points of each other and honda and Yamaha was able to sneak out a title by having one front runner.
I cant see either George or MM following team orders.
yes that is a real danger with the two fastest riders on the grid.I think MM will have the edge this year cos Jlo wont be as close to the edge .However it may take MM to get up to full speed too.

[Autech]

Hopefully so. Honda and the dream team... I foresee handbags at dawn.

With a pack of hungry hounds in hot pursuit.

I've waited two years for this season. Triumph in moto2 and the motogp field getting closer to MM.

If the last few years are anything to go by, this season may cause some spectators to black out from sheer awe.:gob:

Even if it's MM moving up a level.:blink:I was nearly in tears watching assen.
Bring it

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[WALRUS]

I'm a little bit in love with Rossi's 2k19 Winter test helmet design...

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51538838_542482899490896_5707563953547116544_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=430bf26b3ee63298d5811aafe288c171&oe=5CB2CA5C

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52153184_542482922824227_7359797151733383168_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=b63a51c2ee7068d63bc3b2dd29dc6d4e&oe=5CFCD0A4

Another great design from Aldo Drudi

[Mental Trousers]

2019 is going to be an epic season I think. It's the first time, ever, that every bike on the grid is less than a year old. Even the rookies and Real Avintia have 2018 machines.

A side effect of that may be a higher turn over rate of riders, they've got the machinery so if they don't get up to speed quickly riders may find they're losing their rides much sooner than in the past.

[pritch]

I'm a little bit in love with Rossi's 2k19 Winter test helmet design...

Another great design from Aldo Drudi

That is certainly colourful. I'm a Drudi fan and have two helmets bearing his artwork. The Arai is much more comfortable than the AGV though, so I won't be tempted to fork out the $1500 or whatever they want for that.

[pritch]

THE FIVE THAT WILL BUBBLE?
5th February 2019
The end of January, a new season looms large on the horizon – and with it, a variety of possible sub-plots that have already been ‘in the making’ this winter. We cast an eye over potential battles and rivalries that promise to light up the 19-round calendar that lies ahead.

A Marquez-Dovizioso repeat

Noted, the vast majority of team presentations are littered with optimism. But Ducati’s opulent ‘do’ at Philip Morris International HQ in Switzerland wasn’t just an opportunity to witness the tobacco giant’s bewildering new approach to marketing. There was a chance to listen in on Andrea Dovizioso’s thoughts on the year ahead. “I feel better than last year,” said the 32-year old. “[With] More confidence.” Looking ahead, it’s hard to disagree. In the season’s second half, he outscored a rampant Marc Marquez by 157 points to 156. The Desmosedici’s base now works well everywhere. Gigi Dall’Igna’s unique innovations were in evidence at Jerez, with altered seat units and radical linkage system. New team-mate Danilo Petrucci is prepared to work according to the needs of Ducati’s lead rider. And for the first time since 2014, Marquez enters the season facing physical uncertainty. A healing left shoulder could yet disrupt an approach so dependent on total aggression. Dovizioso has enjoyed two years challenging. Now 2019 offers a best chance at claiming the overall crown.


Battle for superiority in HRC’s ‘Dream Team’

A ‘dream team’ operating within Repsol colours is no new thing. Marquez has labelled his own band of dedicated disciples just that as he powered a way to five of the past six championships. But Jorge Lorenzo’s arrival has strengthened the belief that internal friction could complicate the reigning champion’s approach. Beyond the fact that the grid’s two most talented riders, with a combined 138 race wins and 267 podiums between them, operate from the same garage, there comes a matter of personality. Marquez and Lorenzo have had their moments in the past. Two of Lorenzo’s most recent public outbursts came after innocuous incidents (Misano, 2016 and Aragon ’17). And the Majorcan’s demanding presence can rub some up the wrong way. When did we last see the considered figure of Dovizioso throwing the pettiest of barbs across the garage, for example? This hasn’t been billed as a potential Senna-Prost rivalry without reason.


Yamaha to get it right?

History has a habit of repeating itself. To which anyone overseeing Yamaha’s recent fortunes could attest. There was a whiff of déjà vu last November. At a post-season outing at Jerez the tune called by factory runners Maverick Viñales and Valentino Rossi wasn’t entirely harmonious. On Yamaha’s updated engine, aimed at ironing out the failures of its predecessor, the Catalan delivered a resounding verdict: “this bike can win the title.” Rossi, on the other hand, aired caution. “At the moment it’s a fourth place bike … if someone ahead retires!” Fundamentally, they are in agreement as to where is most in need of improvement. Both, for example, agreed on the engine direction needed for next year. Yet it’s whether Viñales can maintain this recent momentum, making his voice heard over his more experienced companion, and ignore Rossi’s attempts at disrupting his flow that represents the biggest challenge of his career to date. If Yamaha finally gets it right, sparks will fly.


The fight for Ducati’s second seat

The only factory rider on the grid not in possession of a two-year deal, Petrucci knows he must make good on previous promise if he wishes to maintain his current status. Knowing Pramac’s Jack Miller and Francesco Bagnaia have eyes on the seat for 2020, speculation regarding his position will be rife should he begin the year quietly. He acknowledged as much recently: “Jack and Pecco want my bike, it’s not a secret!” Miller’s aim will be much the same: prove himself a consistent podium contender. Equipped with Ducati’s GP19, he’ll likely have the machinery to do it. “I believe if we can do a really good job next year we should be in line for a factory seat somewhere,” said the Australian last November. “Here at Ducati. If not, we’ll see where the cards fall.” Then add Bagnaia into the equation, just 0.1s off Miller’s best time in only his second MotoGP test. This has the potential to escalate.

Bagnaia, Mir to lead the battle of the rookies

Were it not for the wealth, the fame and the fact their days consist of riding the world’s fastest motorcycles, you’d almost feel sympathy for a rookie entering the MotoGP fold. Marquez raised the expectations bar considerably in 2013 by winning the title first time out. Four years on and Johann Zarco went as far as leading the first lap of the first race. So to Bagnaia, Mir, Oliveira and Quartararo: no pressure. Granted, the premier class is closer than it’s ever been. But for Bagnaia to be so competitive at his two tests to date (0.6s off Viñales at Valencia, 0.4s back at Jerez) indicates he will be challenging for top sixes before too long. Yet with contemporaries as strong as these, winning the coveted ‘Rookie of the Year’ title will be no easy thing. Not least as Joan Mir has appeared so at home on Suzuki’s ever-improving MotoGP machine from the start (he passed through Jerez’s fearsome double right T11-12 with elbow down on the first morning of November’s test). Team manager Davide Brivio expects Mir’s progress to be on a par with Alex Rins’ debut year in 2017. If, so he’ll be alongside Bagnaia on the fringes of the top six.

By Neil Morrison @neilmorrison87

Photos by CormacGP @cormacgp

[steveyb]

By a mile, Tech 3 KTM MotoGP and Moto2!
Beautiful blue. Can't wait to see it in the bright sunshine.

[carbonhed]

By a mile, Tech 3 KTM MotoGP and Moto2!
Beautiful blue. Can't wait to see it in the bright sunshine.

Handsome. Would look great dicing with the orange of the Repsol bikes... aaaaaand maybe that will happen :rofl:

[SaferRides]

THE FIVE THAT WILL BUBBLE?
5th February 2019
The end of January, a new season looms large on the horizon – and with it, a variety of possible sub-plots that have already been ‘in the making’ this winter. We cast an eye over potential battles and rivalries that promise to light up the 19-round calendar that lies ahead.

A Marquez-Dovizioso repeat

Noted, the vast majority of team presentations are littered with optimism. But Ducati’s opulent ‘do’ at Philip Morris International HQ in Switzerland wasn’t just an opportunity to witness the tobacco giant’s bewildering new approach to marketing. There was a chance to listen in on Andrea Dovizioso’s thoughts on the year ahead. “I feel better than last year,” said the 32-year old. “[With] More confidence.” Looking ahead, it’s hard to disagree. In the season’s second half, he outscored a rampant Marc Marquez by 157 points to 156. The Desmosedici’s base now works well everywhere. Gigi Dall’Igna’s unique innovations were in evidence at Jerez, with altered seat units and radical linkage system. New team-mate Danilo Petrucci is prepared to work according to the needs of Ducati’s lead rider. And for the first time since 2014, Marquez enters the season facing physical uncertainty. A healing left shoulder could yet disrupt an approach so dependent on total aggression. Dovizioso has enjoyed two years challenging. Now 2019 offers a best chance at claiming the overall crown.


Battle for superiority in HRC’s ‘Dream Team’

A ‘dream team’ operating within Repsol colours is no new thing. Marquez has labelled his own band of dedicated disciples just that as he powered a way to five of the past six championships. But Jorge Lorenzo’s arrival has strengthened the belief that internal friction could complicate the reigning champion’s approach. Beyond the fact that the grid’s two most talented riders, with a combined 138 race wins and 267 podiums between them, operate from the same garage, there comes a matter of personality. Marquez and Lorenzo have had their moments in the past. Two of Lorenzo’s most recent public outbursts came after innocuous incidents (Misano, 2016 and Aragon ’17). And the Majorcan’s demanding presence can rub some up the wrong way. When did we last see the considered figure of Dovizioso throwing the pettiest of barbs across the garage, for example? This hasn’t been billed as a potential Senna-Prost rivalry without reason.


Yamaha to get it right?

History has a habit of repeating itself. To which anyone overseeing Yamaha’s recent fortunes could attest. There was a whiff of déjà vu last November. At a post-season outing at Jerez the tune called by factory runners Maverick Viñales and Valentino Rossi wasn’t entirely harmonious. On Yamaha’s updated engine, aimed at ironing out the failures of its predecessor, the Catalan delivered a resounding verdict: “this bike can win the title.” Rossi, on the other hand, aired caution. “At the moment it’s a fourth place bike … if someone ahead retires!” Fundamentally, they are in agreement as to where is most in need of improvement. Both, for example, agreed on the engine direction needed for next year. Yet it’s whether Viñales can maintain this recent momentum, making his voice heard over his more experienced companion, and ignore Rossi’s attempts at disrupting his flow that represents the biggest challenge of his career to date. If Yamaha finally gets it right, sparks will fly.


The fight for Ducati’s second seat

The only factory rider on the grid not in possession of a two-year deal, Petrucci knows he must make good on previous promise if he wishes to maintain his current status. Knowing Pramac’s Jack Miller and Francesco Bagnaia have eyes on the seat for 2020, speculation regarding his position will be rife should he begin the year quietly. He acknowledged as much recently: “Jack and Pecco want my bike, it’s not a secret!” Miller’s aim will be much the same: prove himself a consistent podium contender. Equipped with Ducati’s GP19, he’ll likely have the machinery to do it. “I believe if we can do a really good job next year we should be in line for a factory seat somewhere,” said the Australian last November. “Here at Ducati. If not, we’ll see where the cards fall.” Then add Bagnaia into the equation, just 0.1s off Miller’s best time in only his second MotoGP test. This has the potential to escalate.

Bagnaia, Mir to lead the battle of the rookies

Were it not for the wealth, the fame and the fact their days consist of riding the world’s fastest motorcycles, you’d almost feel sympathy for a rookie entering the MotoGP fold. Marquez raised the expectations bar considerably in 2013 by winning the title first time out. Four years on and Johann Zarco went as far as leading the first lap of the first race. So to Bagnaia, Mir, Oliveira and Quartararo: no pressure. Granted, the premier class is closer than it’s ever been. But for Bagnaia to be so competitive at his two tests to date (0.6s off Viñales at Valencia, 0.4s back at Jerez) indicates he will be challenging for top sixes before too long. Yet with contemporaries as strong as these, winning the coveted ‘Rookie of the Year’ title will be no easy thing. Not least as Joan Mir has appeared so at home on Suzuki’s ever-improving MotoGP machine from the start (he passed through Jerez’s fearsome double right T11-12 with elbow down on the first morning of November’s test). Team manager Davide Brivio expects Mir’s progress to be on a par with Alex Rins’ debut year in 2017. If, so he’ll be alongside Bagnaia on the fringes of the top six.

By Neil Morrison @neilmorrison87

Photos by CormacGP @cormacgp

Hmm, not sure how much of this I agree with. Reading between the lines, I suspect Honda has built a very quick bike. And the Yamahas were fast in the race last year, so it might pay to see how they go on other tracks before getting too excited.

Not long to wait now!

[pritch]

The enemy is that close.

A woman I know was at Brno one day during her OE when a very young Valentino Rossi made his first appearance there on a 125. In recent years she has been a fan, possibly because he is a link to the days of her youth. Her youngest son though (8 or 9?) is a die hard Marquez fan.

The young man was really pissed off when his mum told him that they were having a party tonight to celebrate Rossi's 40th.
His own birthday is imminent and he is unaware as yet that there is a cake with 93 on it waiting. I hope he doesn't read this.

Anyhoo, Happy Birthday Rossi!

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/rossi-40-so-many-memories

[roogazza]

Yep pritch, Happy Birthday Vale !

40 ! I wish, I've got 70 coming up in under two months now.Strange feeling .:(:rolleyes::facepalm::mellow::confused::no:

[SaferRides]

Yep pritch, Happy Birthday Vale !

40 ! I wish, I've got 70 coming up in under two months now.Strange feeling .:(:rolleyes::facepalm::mellow::confused::no:I can only imagine. I'm still getting used to being in my sixties!

[mulletman]

nother birthday boy

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/912939/1/happy-birthday-marc-marquez

[SaferRides]

nother birthday boy

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/912939/1/happy-birthday-marc-marquezWonder if he and Rossi wished each other a Happy Birthday...

[Reckless]

Wonder if he and Rossi wished each other a Happy Birthday...

Yeh they went out on the town but ol' Rossi couldn't keep up :laugh::bleh::msn-wink:

[pritch]

Yeh they went out on the town but ol' Rossi couldn't keep up :laugh::bleh::msn-wink:

Cruel. Casey Stoner's first daughter shares a birthday with Rossi, so Stoner can't exactly forget Rossi's birthday. Rossi probably shouldn't hold his breath waiting for a card though.

[Blackbird]

Yep pritch, Happy Birthday Vale !

40 ! I wish, I've got 70 coming up in under two months now.Strange feeling .:(:rolleyes::facepalm::mellow::confused::no:

It's just a number, you'll be just fine :laugh: I've got #72 coming up this year and intend to celebrate growing older disgracefully with a new bike. Perhaps 70 is worth doing the same? :clap:

[Cosmik de Bris]

Yep pritch, Happy Birthday Vale !

40 ! I wish, I've got 70 coming up in under two months now.Strange feeling .:(:rolleyes::facepalm::mellow::confused::no:

Me too!

Cheers

[roogazza]

It's just a number, you'll be just fine :laugh: I've got #72 coming up this year and intend to celebrate growing older disgracefully with a new bike. Perhaps 70 is worth doing the same? :clap:


Me too!

Cheers

hey, keep doing it ! got out this morn for my usual once a week fang. I get the same thrill putting on the hat and pushing the button,that I always have. Perfect weather here in the Horowhenua and Pahiatua.:yes::innocent:

[Dadpole]

I did not hear you passing Gazza. Pop in any time.

[husaberg]

40 ! I wish, I've got 70 coming up in under two months now.Strange feeling .:

That will be the arthritis.....

[pritch]

Meanwhile at Phillip Island, GP refugee Bautista ruled the SBK test throughout. Not just the fastest laps but way more in the 1.30s than anybody else. The only question seems to be whether his tyres can last race distance.

The Paddock Pass podcast crew discuss the seasons prospects. Here's one source, otherwise Google will be your friend: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/paddock-pass-podcast-motorcycle-racing-motogp-world/id1041783390?mt=2&i=1000430176709

And we get some racing this weekend even if it’s not GPs.

[steveyb]

How long before the Superbike riders are following the body down/elbow out GP style that Bautista has and they don't?

[pritch]

Seeing that the WSBK races are scheduled for this weekend I thought I'd better make arrangements to record them. I can't see any mention of them on the SKY online programme though. Currently there are no pop-up channels showing.

The list of motorsport to be covered in 2019 mentions MotoGP, WSBK, and Brit SBK, so here's hoping.



Update:

Panic over. In the programme guide on the TV it's on pop up channels from 4.30PM Saturday and 4.00PM Sunday and I'm set to record. My email to SKY can stand, at least it shows someone was interested.

Now I just need to get some beer in...

[Autech]

Seeing that the WSBK races are scheduled for this weekend I thought I'd better make arrangements to record them. I can't see any mention of them on the SKY online programme though. Currently there are no pop-up channels showing.

The list of motorsport to be covered in 2019 mentions MotoGP, WSBK, and Brit SBK, so here's hoping.



Update:

Panic over. In the programme guide on the TV it's on pop up channels from 4.30PM Saturday and 4.00PM Sunday and I'm set to record. My email to SKY can stand, at least it shows someone was interested.

Now I just need to get some beer in...

Might have to watch this one live haven't watch WSBK in a good few years since Rea started smashing them lol

[Reckless]

Might have to watch this one live haven't watch WSBK in a good few years since Rea started smashing them lol

Are you guys watchnng Via Sky or do you have a subscription???
I gave my WSBK subscription up because of the stupid week delay to watch - is it still in force???

[Autech]

Are you guys watchnng Via Sky or do you have a subscription???
I gave my WSBK subscription up because of the stupid week delay to watch - is it still in force???I use my folks Skygo as I'm a tight arse

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[pritch]

Are you guys watchnng Via Sky or do you have a subscription???


As per post #209 Sky.

[husaberg]

It's just a number, you'll be just fine :laugh::

Speaking of numbers Pretty Sure Mgp will retire 46 to go along with 34.
Is there any others they retired other than Simoncelli's racing number 58?
edit
KATO 74

[Autech]

Speaking of numbers Pretty Sure Mgp will retire 46 to go along with 34.
Is there any others they retired other than Simoncelli's racing number 58?
edit
KATO 7469 announced recently

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[Reckless]

MotoGP going street racing in 2021.
Although it almost looks like a proper Track compared the IOM LOL

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/02/22/indonesia-confirms-motogp-street-race/?fbclid=IwAR3KO1Y2DyxyU4rzoD3OB3MQoKBglpCbIxkCCQ4n 5YzymR3Msbk6qL01VIQ

[george formby]

MotoGP going street racing in 2021.
Although it almost looks like a proper Track compared the IOM LOL

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/02/22/indonesia-confirms-motogp-street-race/?fbclid=IwAR3KO1Y2DyxyU4rzoD3OB3MQoKBglpCbIxkCCQ4n 5YzymR3Msbk6qL01VIQ


How convenient.

[pritch]

Further to the already posted 4.00PM start time for WSBK coverage tomorrow, they have changed the time to allow for the additional new sprint race. It looks like coverage starts about 1.20pm now.

Oh, and Bautista done good.

[jellywrestler]

called into a mates place today he'd just booked for six to go to phillip island in october, paid right there an then so finally get to go to my first moto gp, thanks folks for you input, been to PI several times but like the idea of being able to roam free around the place so just now have to wait till the tickets come out....

[pritch]

Testing is not racing but this is still interesting.

https://motomatters.com/results/2019/02/24/2019_qatar_motogp_test_sunday_final.html

[pritch]

Both Yamaha factory riders are still concerned about the bike. Vinales worry is acceleration, Rossi is worried but nobody yet seems to have said why . A KTM faster than any of the Ducatis? Interesting.

Testing is over and the action commences next week.

https://motomatters.com/results/2019/02/25/2019_qatar_motogp_test_monday_final.html

[pritch]

Well, it looks the part.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?s=Energica+MotoE

[george formby]

Well, it looks the part.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?s=Energica+MotoE

Stumbled across the stats for the new Zero SR?. 220kg, 110hp, 190nm torques..... :shit: An alleged 160mile range if ridden prudently. 190nm? I would indeed be prudent.

I'm looking forward to the e-bikes and the triples...

[pritch]

Grand Prix of Qatar

Qualifying:
3.15AM (or thereabouts)
Sunday
SKY Sport 4

Races:
2.30AM (ish)
Monday
SKY Sport 4


The start times are not listed as being exactly on the hour or half hour so the times are not accurate to the minute.

[roogazza]

Hanging out , for it all to start........:shifty: :msn-wink:

[Oscar]

The Race Director cleaned out the shed yesterday, so I let him leave for Qatar.
He even left me his 1976 CB750 to ride.

[SaferRides]

Grand Prix of Qatar

Qualifying:
3.15AM (or thereabouts)
Sunday
SKY Sport 4

Races:
2.30AM (ish)
Monday
SKY Sport 4


The start times are not listed as being exactly on the hour or half hour so the times are not accurate to the minute.It is possible that they will change the MotoGP start time depending on how likely it is for dew to fall(?) on the track. That of course will affect Moto2 and 3.

Hopefully this will not stuff up the Sky coverage.

Can't wait!

[pritch]

It is possible that they will change the MotoGP start time depending on how likely it is for dew to fall(?) on the track. That of course will affect Moto2 and 3.

Hopefully this will not stuff up the Sky coverage.

Can't wait!

This is one area where things have improved. With a VCR you set a time and that was the time you got. If the time of the event changed - tough.

Now although there is a time indicated in the Sky programme you are selecting an event. If the time of the event changes the recording time normally changes too. Although that rugby game immediately before the GP coverage is a worry. More than once Sky NZ have just crossed over part way through the first race. Fingers crossed. I'm not planning on watching live at 3.00AM.

[Autech]

Just got stung $209 with the auto renewal for the online pass.
Don't remember ticking that option or giving them permission to retain my debit card on their records when I did the 1 euro deal. Sneaky sneaky fucks.
Sent them an email wish me luck lol.


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[speights_bud]

Just got stung $209 with the auto renewal for the online pass.
Don't remember ticking that option or giving them permission to retain my debit card on their records when I did the 1 euro deal. Sneaky sneaky fucks.
Sent them an email wish me luck lol.


Sent from my SM-A730F using TapatalkThey always retain and auto renew. There were even step by step articles on getting the 1 euro pass and then how to stop the auto renew.

Ya big Goof.

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[Dadpole]

I made sure I ticked the 'Opt out' after the Qatar test. On the bright side - you can now enjoy the whole season with brilliant coverage. (Just with a crap commentary team - Simon excepted).

Meanwhile .... A little boy waits. :yawn:

[Autech]

They always retain and auto renew. There were even step by step articles on getting the 1 euro pass and then how to stop the auto renew.

Ya big Goof.

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI never even logged on after the test and I don't use that email anymore for anything other than spam shit like motogp so didn't see the emails.
Whoops.
Will use it if I have to but I am betting the cunts knew full well what they were doing when they did that promo.
Dirty Spanish fucks no wonder their country has gone to shit lol

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[speights_bud]

I never even logged on after the test and I don't use that email anymore for anything other than spam shit like motogp so didn't see the emails.
Whoops.
Will use it if I have to but I am betting the cunts knew full well what they were doing when they did that promo.
Dirty Spanish fucks no wonder their country has gone to shit lol

Sent from my SM-A730F using TapatalkYep, if it sounds too good to be true....

Look how many people will just say ah fuckit and keep the pass. Then they are hooked after the first year...

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[pritch]

Yep, if it sounds too good to be true....


As I recall there were a number of us signed up for the 1 Euro deal. I've just checked my bankcard and I'm in the clear. I freeload the card and I'm about to buy 'plane tckets and woulda been pissed off at a sudden unexpected bill.

Here's hoping...

[Autech]

As I recall there were a number of us signed up for the 1 Euro deal. I've just checked my bankcard and I'm in the clear. I freeload the card and I'm about to buy 'plane tckets and woulda been pissed off at a sudden unexpected bill.

Here's hoping...Mine was linked to my wifes debit card which uses our bills account.
Luckily she caught it in time and transferred some more money in else we could have missed our mortgage payment.

No response from them yet but I am going to hammer them daily with emails lol

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[EJK]

Lorenzo wins Qatar.

You saw it here first folks.

[speights_bud]

93

04

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[SaferRides]

I always use PayPal. Then you can log in to PayPal and cancel it there.

They did get me this year though. The discounted rate was still a bit too steep, but I found I could get a season pass on my Android phone for $179.

Very close to cancelling Sky now they've lost F1. I just need a way to watch Supercars.

[ecko_nzed]

What a bunch of old whinging cunts (Also why I like this thread) it was on the page you signed up on saying they auto renew and retain your card details. Make sure you're wearing your grandad glasses next time [emoji23]

Can't wait for the lights to go out, it's looking farking interesting after P2. Lots of rookie talent on some proper kit that should spice things up.

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[BMWST?]

Just got stung $209 with the auto renewal for the online pass.
Don't remember ticking that option or giving them permission to retain my debit card on their records when I did the 1 euro deal. Sneaky sneaky fucks.
Sent them an email wish me luck lol.


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i got several reminders in a row i went in and stopped it.That was the whole idea of course for the 1 euro offer

[carbonhed]

Can't wait for the lights to go out, it's looking farking interesting after P2. Lots of rookie talent on some proper kit that should spice things up.

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The quick rookies are going to make qualifying absolutely brutal. They may not have the experience with the bike and tyres to get to the end in good shape but the first laps are going to be hair raising.

I suspect Miller will blossom this year. He's quick, got the experience and finally the bike. Hopefully Morbidelli will put it together. Maybe Crutchlow will finally get a season long plan together. Lorenzo should get his shit together pretty quick.

So that leaves the heavy hitters ready to go, Marquez, Vinales, Dovi, Rins, Petrucci.

Rossi's qualifying difficulties just got much more complicated and his path through the field to contention much more hazardous.

KTM absolutely kicking arse again... any day now... any day now.

Iannone has his own brand aftershave on the market........

[pritch]

The quick rookies are going to make qualifying absolutely brutal. They may not have the experience with the bike and tyres to get to the end in good shape but the first laps are going to be hair raising.

There was an article in the sixties, one of the top riders was saying he hated the first couple of races because everybody saw themselves as a potential champion and things could get too silly. After a couple of races normal expectations resumed and things settled down.

I mentioned that to Alex Briggs once and he replied that he could understand it.

These quick new boys though might take longer to get the message. Bad for the senior riders, good for us.



Iannone has his own brand aftershave on the market........

I was impressed when I was reading about his new perfume, then I saw the price. Only a thousand dollars.

[ecko_nzed]

Iannone has his own brand aftershave on the market........

That plastic surgery ain't gonna pay for itself!

His race results ain't helping either [emoji1787]

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[carbonhed]

There was an article in the sixties, one of the top riders was saying he hated the first couple of races because everybody saw themselves as a potential champion and things could get too silly. After a couple of races normal expectations resumed and things settled down.

I mentioned that to Alex Briggs once and he replied that he could understand it.

These quick new boys though might take longer to get the message. Bad for the senior riders, good for us.


T1 could be.... anything really :eek5:

[SaferRides]

There was an article in the sixties, one of the top riders was saying he hated the first couple of races because everybody saw themselves as a potential champion and things could get too silly. After a couple of races normal expectations resumed and things settled down.

I mentioned that to Alex Briggs once and he replied that he could understand it.

These quick new boys though might take longer to get the message. Bad for the senior riders, good for us.


Mir’s fast lap was a little scary to watch - I didn’t know the Suzuki could look that bad!. Simon Crafar made the comment that some of the rookies weren’t waiting for the bike to settle before getting on the power, which isn’t always going to end well.

But yes, it could be entertaining.

[carbonhed]

Mir’s fast lap was a little scary to watch - I didn’t know the Suzuki could look that bad!. Simon Crafar made the comment that some of the rookies weren’t waiting for the bike to settle before getting on the power, which isn’t always going to end well.

But yes, it could be entertaining.

The yougins will calm down once they've been slammed into the ground half a dozen times waaay faster than they've ever been slammed into the ground before. Until then watch out!

Lorenzo pulled his head in after this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eResxp7jALs&feature=player_embedded

[speights_bud]

The yougins will calm down once they've been slammed into the ground half a dozen times waaay faster than they've ever been slammed into the ground before. Until then watch out!

Haha didn't work for MM though did it?

I didn't follow the GP's as religiously before Marquez joined the big boys. But I remember waiting for him to step up. I wanted to see if he would back off and behave or if the big boys would put him in his place.

Neither happened. Which is convenient and why I'm a fan. Even better for me because my GP watching mate will probably get a VR46 tattoo one day...




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[carbonhed]

Haha didn't work for MM though did it?

I didn't follow the GP's as religiously before Marquez joined the big boys. But I remember waiting for him to step up. I wanted to see if he would back off and behave or if the big boys would put him in his place.

Neither happened. Which is convenient and why I'm a fan. Even better for me because my GP watching mate will probably get a VR46 tattoo one day...




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No MM is the "especial one" for sure.

Maverik seems bursting with confidence everybody else not so much... down to flat out worried. Turn 2 is a bitch. Really rang Millers bell... he was there in parc ferme but in body only. Pisses me off that they're risking my favourite race series by starting late for... TV? WTF?

Rins's confidence seems to have evaporated somewhat.

Vinales

Dovi MM

Petrucci Miller Crutchlow Rins Morbidelli

[Black Knight]

Geeeezzzz those Moto2 Triumph triples sound great.

[Autech]

i got several reminders in a row i went in and stopped it.That was the whole idea of course for the 1 euro offer

Unfortunately my motogp account is linked to my old one which I never check and use for sites that spam you with bull shit. My mistake I know but fuck those fucking fuckers. Might end up using it though if the Mrs stops giving me a hard time about it lol