MotoGP 2020

[merv]

Okay I'll start the new year's thread this time to save jellywrestler doing it.

So Alex Marquez is now confirmed as Marc's team mate at Repsol Honda. It will be interesting to see how he goes in the first tests later today as he hasn't really set the other classes alight like his older brother did when he breezed into them.

[iYRe]

I wonder if it is because he will play second fiddle to his brother, and yet still be able to score points, even win...

[Autech]

I am in 2 minds over this:

Johan Zarco did not deserve the seat as he walked on KTM, career killing stuff really and showed his hand on what happens when the going gets tough.

Alex Marquez is Moto2 champion, but not the most convincing champion by a long shot, if Brad hadn't had such a shit bike most the year I have no doubt that Alex wouldn't be champion. So while Alex has earned a spot in motogp by far, it's not with a factory team. But he was the best rider not already in a Motogp contract available, so he's the right guy. Be interesting to see how he goes and what happens if he starting challenging Marc, something I am not convinced he's capable of doing just yet.

[steveyb]

Marc Marquez used to say, often in fact, that Alex was/is faster than himself.
He does not say that these days.
Alex was not the best rider on the Moto2 grid this year. As has been suggested, if the KTM had started the year as it finished, I would put my money on Binder (a bit obvious really), Martin and even Lecuona being a head of him.
I wonder if we will see a U-turn by KTM around Moto2??? That would be cool if they did stay.
I wonder what happens to those bikes now?
Why not lease/sell them to a couple of teams and allow them to develop them?
Not KTMs style perhaps.

Can Oncu has signed a deal to race with Sofuoglu set-up Turkish team. Good on him, but that is the end of his GP career, for sure.
The photo posted of him next to Martin and Binder (?? I could not make out the third rider) shows that he is the same size as those guys so makes Moto3 a difficult proposition.
Deniz is way more the right size. So odd that they are twins, yet so different, even if di-zygotic.

My picks for 2020 (and I picked them all for 2019 bar MotoE):
MotoE: Smith B
Moto3: Vietti C with Suzuki close behind
Moto2: DiGiannantonio/Fernandez A (on the fence there)
MotoGP: Marquez M with Quatararo F close behind

[pritch]

The weather in Valencia is cold and the tyres have no grip - as some of the riders including MM and FQ found out.

Pete Benson is back in MotoGP as KTM test chief.

[steveyb]

The weather in Valencia is cold and the tyres have no grip - as some of the riders including MM and FQ found out.

Pete Benson is back in MotoGP as KTM test chief.

Working with Trevathan, then. The Kiwi connection.
That would be a pretty sweet gig I would think.
Not having to travel all over the shop all the time as in the race team, getting to build and develop MotoGP bikes, going to wildcard races in Europe, nice.
Where do I sign up??

[merv]

There were complaints this year about how long the season was with things a bit cold at Phillip Island and Valencia and here they are testing in the cold. Adding more rounds to the schedule isn't exactly going to help make that easier unless they rearrange things a bit better.

[sugilite]

The second Marquez did not do too bad today, under 3 seconds off the pace, impressive for his first outing. Will be interesting to see his progress for sure.

[onearmedbandit]

My prediction for 2020:

MM
FQ*
AD
MV

Sooo many riders who could muck that up. JM had 5 or 6 dry race podiums this year, he's never had one before. I honestly think he has champion potential, everyone is commenting on how much he's matured both on and off the bike (still a party lad though). You can't deny that VR will give it his best, but unless Yamaha give him a bike that he can work with I see him being maybe 5th or 6th overall. If however he gels with the 2020 machine then I still feel he's got a damn good chance. Alex is too unknown at the moment but despite his obvious talent I don't think he'll finish in the top 6, the competition is just too strong. I hope we see more from FM, and will be great to see both Aprilia and KTM make serious advances. We've never had it so good really. Well since I first started watching in the late 80's. YMMV.

*as long as he doesn't do a Zarco

[BMWST?]

My prediction for 2020:

MM
FQ*
AD
MV

Sooo many riders who could muck that up. JM had 5 or 6 dry race podiums this year, he's never had one before. I honestly think he has champion potential, everyone is commenting on how much he's matured both on and off the bike (still a party lad though). You can't deny that VR will give it his best, but unless Yamaha give him a bike that he can work with I see him being maybe 5th or 6th overall. If however he gels with the 2020 machine then I still feel he's got a damn good chance. Alex is too unknown at the moment but despite his obvious talent I don't think he'll finish in the top 6, the competition is just too strong. I hope we see more from FM, and will be great to see both Aprilia and KTM make serious advances. We've never had it so good really. Well since I first started watching in the late 80's. YMMV.

*as long as he doesn't do a Zarco

Interested in why you should say that re Fabio?.It was obvious fairly quickly that JZ was struggling to adapt to the KTM but i do not see that at all with #20.A few times this year fabio has reacted quite strongly to setbacks.I just wonder if he may be a little "high strung" for when some pressure comes on.He will be under some real scrutiny this coming year I think ,he has set the bar very high for himself and his team.

[onearmedbandit]

Interested in why you should say that re Fabio?.It was obvious fairly quickly that JZ was struggling to adapt to the KTM but i do not see that at all with #20.A few times this year fabio has reacted quite strongly to setbacks.I just wonder if he may be a little "high strung" for when some pressure comes on.He will be under some real scrutiny this coming year I think ,he has set the bar very high for himself and his team.

From memory Zarco was had started struggling mentally while at Yamaha and things didn't get better for anytime soon. My only comparison was with regards to his rookie season in MotoGP and the expectations on him as a result of that.

[Autech]

My prediction for 2020:

MM
FQ*
AD
MV

Sooo many riders who could muck that up. JM had 5 or 6 dry race podiums this year, he's never had one before. I honestly think he has champion potential, everyone is commenting on how much he's matured both on and off the bike (still a party lad though). You can't deny that VR will give it his best, but unless Yamaha give him a bike that he can work with I see him being maybe 5th or 6th overall. If however he gels with the 2020 machine then I still feel he's got a damn good chance. Alex is too unknown at the moment but despite his obvious talent I don't think he'll finish in the top 6, the competition is just too strong. I hope we see more from FM, and will be great to see both Aprilia and KTM make serious advances. We've never had it so good really. Well since I first started watching in the late 80's. YMMV.

*as long as he doesn't do a Zarco

The main reason I think Jack Miller (remember there's 2 JM's in motogp, at least only one DP now though sadly) won't be contending the title next year is his lack of full factory support.
If he was alongside AD next year I have no doubt he'd be right in the thick of it every weekend, Ducati dun fucked up with resigning Petrux. Earlier this year Petrux commented on how much better it was being in the full factory as he had more data techs and engineers working with him. With races decided by tenths of a second per lap that can't be discounted when considering Jacks chances, hope I am wrong though!
Fabio appears to be the fly in the "non factory support winning titles" ointment right now, but with the factory boys at Yam not firing on all cylinders there's a spot for him to shine and show the bikes potential. Be awesome for him to win a race as it will be something that Marquez never did, win in a sat team so will start his run of breaking records maybe. Go Fab. Unless he has more engine next year Marcs gunna smoke him in heads up battles.


Testing pretty interesting, KTM as always the most interesting to pay attention too with new parts up the wazoo and cool rookies entering the class. Iker doing bloody well but you can't read too much into his times over Brad Binder as Brad hasn't had a full weekend on a GP bike like Iker. Going to be cool to see who emerges as top contender against Pol next year and where they happen to be contending for, I'd say they have possibly the strongest rider line up on the grid looking at raw talent:
Pol Espagaro - Moto2 champion and podium finisher on the sat Yamaha when the sat bikes were never up for race wins like they are now
Olivera - Strong rides in Moto3 and 2 on less competitive bikes, no doubt he'd have a title given the right bike in those years
Brad Binder - Moto3 champ, probably would have been moto2 champ this year if KTM hadn't struggled with the Triumph transition
Iker Lecuona - Relatively unknown as a road racer but apparently has pedigree in dirt racing, I can't find much info on that but he certainly rode the wheels of an shit KTM moto2 bike this year. He's the wildcard next year for sure.
Then their test team
Dani Pedrosa
Mika Kalio

KTM throwing so much at this, bring on the results to match it.

[onearmedbandit]

The main reason I think Jack Miller (remember there's 2 JM's in motogp, at least only one DP now though sadly) won't be contending the title next year is his lack of full factory support.
If he was alongside AD next year I have no doubt he'd be right in the thick of it every weekend, Ducati dun fucked up with resigning Petrux. Earlier this year Petrux commented on how much better it was being in the full factory as he had more data techs and engineers working with him. With races decided by tenths of a second per lap that can't be discounted when considering Jacks chances, hope I am wrong though!

Very valid point and something I had overlooked.


Fabio appears to be the fly in the "non factory support winning titles" ointment right now, but with the factory boys at Yam not firing on all cylinders there's a spot for him to shine and show the bikes potential. Be awesome for him to win a race as it will be something that Marquez never did, win in a sat team so will start his run of breaking records maybe. Go Fab. Unless he has more engine next year Marcs gunna smoke him in heads up battles.



Have to agree about the engine factor (and the rest you said there). One of the reasons I think he won't be a proper challenge to Marc next year. Same as you, hoping we are both wrong.

[BMWST?]

From memory Zarco was had started struggling mentally while at Yamaha and things didn't get better for anytime soon. My only comparison was with regards to his rookie season in MotoGP and the expectations on him as a result of that.
thats fair .There will be big expecations on #20 so i see the comparisons now

[BMWST?]

Very valid point and something I had overlooked.



Have to agree about the engine factor (and the rest you said there). One of the reasons I think he won't be a proper challenge to Marc next year. Same as you, hoping we are both wrong.
Also his team isnt a match for MM either i reckon .They ussually win at least 1 race a year on team call/strategy.

[onearmedbandit]

Also his team isnt a match for MM either i reckon .They ussually win at least 1 race a year on team call/strategy.

Yeah apart from the f#$k up at PI a few years ago they normally are right on top of that.

[BMWST?]

Yeah apart from the f#$k up at PI a few years ago they normally are right on top of that.
they learnt from that didnt they!

[Autech]

So Abraham has been given the boot from Avintia, sounds like Dorna have been meddling in there quite heavily as he had a contract for next year.
This opens the door for Zarco who Dorna clearly want to stick around.
Amazing how Dorna are going to bat for a guy who shafted his team this year big time. Being French has kept him in the game. So while Karol may not be the most talented rider on the grid (daddies money has got him in there), it was a secured seat for 2020 they've arseholed him from. Bad juju.

Watched some replays of Jorge on the Ducati last year the other night on the youtube.
What a fucking shame he wasn't there this year, he rode that bike amazingly once he got it dialed in. What could have been...

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[SaferRides]

This is why Ducati win so few championships. Look at the talent they've had in the last decade or so, and how well they've used it. And if the rumours are true, they want Vinales in 2021. Hopefully he has the good sense to say no.

[Autech]

This is why Ducati win so few championships. Look at the talent they've had in the last decade or so, and how well they've used it. And if the rumours are true, they want Vinales in 2021. Hopefully he has the good sense to say no.Not promoting Miller is yet another case od them being spuds.

Dovi will never win them a championship unless MM injures himself or summant

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[James Deuce]

Not promoting Miller is yet another case od them being spuds.

Dovi will never win them a championship unless MM injures himself or summant

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Jack is brilliant and is definitely in the probables list for a Ducati Factory seat, but he's still a bit too inconsistent and has some way to go on the tyre management front. His one lap pace is awe-inspiring and he rides out of his skin sometimes. But balancing pace and tyre life over a race distance seems to be an issue. It also might be that he just needs half a dozen more data engineers and mechanics too.

[pritch]

So Abraham has been given the boot from Avintia,


David Emmett has a write up on his MotoMatters page. It seems the parting of the ways was unnecessarily harsh. The letter advising Abraham his contract was cancelled was in Spanish and it being a weekend he couldn't get a professional translation. A precise translation would be important because Abraham is a qualified lawyer.

He is unhappy about the late dumping because there will be no openings anywhere else. His crew chief received similar treatment.

Abraham comments that Ohlins withdrew their services from Avintia which suggests the team have money troubles. With Abraham gone the money troubles may get worse.

Oh, and it's not Zarco riding the bike in testing it was the new Moto E champ, but that may just be in the nature of a reward for a job well done.

[sugilite]

Final testing for the year has happened, Vinales fastest by 3/4 second. He seems to ride much better when there is not so much pressure on him, Suzuki days, test days. He seems to get flustered when the pressure mounts up on race day.
MM took a low speed tumble and he felt some dislocation in his previously good right shoulder. Honda really should make the 2020 bike other rider friendly, they really are vulnerable if the unthinkable were to occur with a MM injury. His brother went well in the test too, chipping away at the gap to the fast guys.

[steveyb]

Seems that Zarco remains a little injured following being hit by Lecuonas bike, so was not invited to the Jerez test. Avintia apparently invited Garzo after a good showing in MotoE, fair enough for him. He was going to race in place of Rabat earlier in the year, but that did not eventuate.
But it is most likely that no agreement between Avintia and Zarco (Zarco Garzo, easy to get mixed up there.....). Zarco was also heard to say that he would rather race Moto2 than be in that team on that bike, or words to that effect.
But a GP19 in MotoGP even with a 2nd or 3rd rate team might be enough to swing it, along with Dorna providing extra Euros to Avintia to have him there.
It appears that he remains incredibly popular with fans, but one might expect that with Fabio Q in the field that the French supporters have elsewhere to cheer. But, there is a feeling with the French that because FQ lived in Spain for so long that he is not as French as Zarco is. Zarco is French with every fibre of his body and makes no bones about telling you how it is, for him. Which I for one applaud. Kiwis are much less willing to do that and less willing to like it when others do it. While the Austrians are like the French in that regard, his mistake (if you want to call it that) was saying it in public. But then that is what the press and fans want, so he knows full well which side of the bread is buttered.
In the end, it would appear that the Zarco/KTM pairing simply didn't work. Can't blame a guy for trying and also should applaud him for stopping when he could see no way forward with the project, for him, and let someone else, ie Binder, have a crack. Two completely different riders with completely different, in fact diametrically opposed, styles, so will he go better? Let's see.
I remain unconvinced that Zarco will take the Avintia seat, but will be interesting to see if he does.
It is possible that the only MotoGP bike that will work for Zarco could well be the Yamaha.

[James Deuce]

I remain unconvinced that Zarco will take the Avintia seat, but will be interesting to see if he does.
It is possible that the only MotoGP bike that will work for Zarco could well be the Yamaha.
Ummm, it's a done deal. Ducati made Avintia a satellite squad, rather than a customer team so that Zarco would take the ride. Makes Avinita and Zarco happy. Bit unpleasant for Abraham, but there it is.

[onearmedbandit]

Ummm, it's a done deal. Ducati made Avintia a satellite squad, rather than a customer team so that Zarco would take the ride. Makes Avinita and Zarco happy. Bit unpleasant for Abraham, but there it is.

There's no official confirmation out there yet but it certainly looks like it will happen.

[F5 Dave]

It must be so frustrating when so young you've shown you can start to run with the big boys and then you have to take a 3rd rate bike and can see you ae wasting your time.

[Autech]

Looks like his 100s of crashes are catching up with him, can't be great to repeatedly smash your shoulders along the grounds week in week out. Hope he recovers in time for the new season.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/934652/1/official-marc-marquez-needs-shoulder-surgery#block-load-comments-ajax-load-comments-ajax

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[pritch]

The racing's over so it's back to hunting out other sources of entertainment.

Like this: https://ontrackoffroad.com/magazines/otor-193-november-26th/

[Banditbandit]

I think Rins could be interesting to watch in the coming season. The Suzuki has been getting faster and faster each season - and he did beat M Marquez in one race ... if Suzuki make more progress this season Rins could be a contender ... finished 4th overall in 2019.

Quatararo has a season's experience now - could be good to watch .. despite his battles with M Marquez this year he's in fifth - behind the Suzuki

[Autech]

I think Rins could be interesting to watch in the coming season. The Suzuki has been getting faster and faster each season - and he did beat M Marquez in one race ... if Suzuki make more progress this season Rins could be a contender ... finished 4th overall in 2019.

Quatararo has a season's experience now - could be good to watch .. despite his battles with M Marquez this year he's in fifth - behind the Suzuki

If Suzuki can make the bike fast over one lap then he will be there for sure, until they crack that code I don't see him being up there every single race and therefore out of contention against a Marquez who's bad days are 2nd place.

Joan Mir will eventually arrive too, one of the more talented guys to come through recently for sure and the guy I think most capable of giving MM a damn good run for him money on the same machinery if it ever comes about. This year was his learning year and next year I think we will see his gloves come off in a big way.

[Reckless]

Just watched "After the flag"
MM to go in for precautionary surgery tomorrow on his right shoulder.
Left shoulder was the bad one they fixed now the right, after his last bad High side in Jerez?? and now another crash in testing.

BTW his brother Alex is going quite well.

[iYRe]

Just watched "After the flag"
MM to go in for precautionary surgery tomorrow on his right shoulder.
Left shoulder was the bad one they fixed now the right, after his last bad High side in Jerez?? and now another crash in testing.

BTW his brother Alex is going quite well.


they said it was precautionary surgery to prevent another issue like with his left shoulder

Also, this..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veCXLdDnFu0

[F5 Dave]

That was so cool. Back when bikes sounded like racebikes. Awesome.

[Reckless]

Marquez undergoes successful surgery on right shoulder
Reigning World Champion will be discharged from hospital in the next 48 hours to begin recovery.
Tags , 2020, Marc Marquez, Repsol Honda Team
With his most successful premier class season to date finished, eight-time World Champion Marc Marquez elected to undergo surgery at the Hospital Universitari Dexeus-Quiron today, November 27. The operation was performed by Dr. Xavier Mir, Dr. Victor Marlet and Dr. Teresa Marlet, all part of ICATME (the Catalan Institute of Traumatology and Sports Medicine).

After experiencing some discomfort with his right shoulder, and after his Monday crash at the Jerez Test, the Repsol Honda Team rider elected to have the operation as a preventative measure after medical consultation. The operation is similar to the one performed on his left shoulder at the end of 2018 but less aggressive in nature.

Marquez will be discharged within the next 48 hours. He will then begin his recovery and winter training in preparation for the Sepang Test at home in Cervera.

[Banditbandit]

If Suzuki can make the bike fast over one lap then he will be there for sure, until they crack that code I don't see him being up there every single race and therefore out of contention against a Marquez who's bad days are 2nd place.

Joan Mir will eventually arrive too, one of the more talented guys to come through recently for sure and the guy I think most capable of giving MM a damn good run for him money on the same machinery if it ever comes about. This year was his learning year and next year I think we will see his gloves come off in a big way.


Agree with you :niceone:

I did say "If Suzuki can .. "

Yes - I agree - and Suzuki are getting faster all the time ..

Only super gods like Rossi can move to a team (Yamaha) and make the bike fast the very first time out ...

[SaferRides]

Suzuki need a top rider. Can you imagine what Marquez could have done on this year's bike?

My prediction - Mir will be consistently faster than Rins by mid season.

[Autech]

Suzuki need a top rider. Can you imagine what Marquez could have done on this year's bike?

My prediction - Mir will be consistently faster than Rins by mid season.

About the same as Rins I think, the top speed deficit to the Honda and Ducati needs to be overcome before the Yams and Sookis can compete in a battle consistently. Even MM would struggle to overcome that I think. No way of truly knowing though. He's something else that is for sure.

Rins and Mir are both "Top riders", the only factory team in my view with two top level riders.

Yamaha have Rossi holding them back now (sad to see) and Vinales who has frequent performance blips. Fabio showed what that bike could do
Ducati have Petrux who's too big to race at the pointy end sadly
Aprilia have Iannone who only turns up to race at certain tracks
KTM had Zarco who was bollocks on a difficult bike, but looking at their next years line up all 4 bikes have very talented riders on board. Its the bike holding them back not the riders.

MMs dominance will come to an end IF they can get under his skin and force him to ride the bike harder. I don't see that happening without the bikes being able to slipstream and pass him


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[BMWST?]

About the same as Rins I think, the top speed deficit to the Honda and Ducati needs to be overcome before the Yams and Sookis can compete in a battle consistently. Even MM would struggle to overcome that I think. No way of truly knowing though. He's something else that is for sure.

Rins and Mir are both "Top riders", the only factory team in my view with two top level riders.

Yamaha have Rossi holding them back now (sad to see) and Vinales who has frequent performance blips. Fabio showed what that bike could do
Ducati have Petrux who's too big to race at the pointy end sadly
Aprilia have Iannone who only turns up to race at certain tracks
KTM had Zarco who was bollocks on a difficult bike, but looking at their next years line up all 4 bikes have very talented riders on board. Its the bike holding them back not the riders.

MMs dominance will come to an end IF they can get under his skin and force him to ride the bike harder. I don't see that happening without the bikes being able to slipstream and pass him


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dont agree ,I cant see anyone building a bike that is FASTER than the Honda.MM real riding strength i reckon is in two distinct places.
He is amazing in the "trail brake zone", thats where he can seem to stuff it up the inside of anybody.
He is extremely quick in the changes of direction.
And he and his team are absolute masters in the strategies and in a one on one against any of the champoinship rivals he will take the risk to beat them to gain the points...
and lastly he is so damn consistent. first or second for the whole season except once!

[F5 Dave]

Um, so how do you explain Ducati every year other than this?

[BMWST?]

Um, so how do you explain Ducati every year other than this?
well you said it "this year ".I dont see any one else making the step up to Honda and Ducati,and if they do i expect there to be a major step backward in the rideabaility level(as per Honda and Ducati).It is my opinion not a matter of fact

[F5 Dave]

So. . . You said Honda.
But Ducati was faster every other year.

So now you say they are the same.

But no one could be faster than Honda,


. .

So, like . . . History. .

[BMWST?]

So. . . You said Honda.
But Ducati was faster every other year.

So now you say they are the same.

But no one could be faster than Honda,


. .

So, like . . . History. .

Faster then the Honda.The honda is very nearly as fast as the Ducati THIS year.I dont think Honda will have a slower bike next year(2020) History is irelevant.In my opinion no one will make a bike that is faster (in a straight line) than the Honda in 2020

[Autech]

Faster then the Honda.The honda is very nearly as fast as the Ducati THIS year.I dont think Honda will have a slower bike next year(2020) History is irelevant.In my opinion no one will make a bike that is faster (in a straight line) than the Honda in 2020

Especially not an inline 4 engine.
So MM will be able to take less risks in the braking zones and smoke the poor Yamaha/Suzuki IF they manage to get past him on a twisty section at the next straight just like he did this year. His real threat is in Ducati IF they can make it turn and IF they can get Miller on the 2nd factory bike.
All the other factories wont be able to match him on his Honda in its current state of tune, they missed the bus on that one when it was down considerably in top speed to the Ducati and he was braking like a lunatic to keep up with them.

Zarco has signed for Avintia I see, bit shit of Dorna to arsehole Abraham but at least a more talented rider is taking the seat. Lets see if he can do better than Rabat, though guessing he'll be given much more support from Ducati so not a fair comparison.

[pritch]

The FIM has announced that Andrea Iannone has failed a drug test (anabolic steroids). From December 17 he is provisionally suspended until further notice.

[mulletman]

The FIM has announced that Andrea Iannone has failed a drug test (anabolic steroids). From December 17 he is provisionally suspended until further notice.


https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/iannone-surprised-confident-suspension/4614284/

[Autech]

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/iannone-surprised-confident-suspension/4614284/

Four year ban? Damn. This will be interesting to see how it plays out :corn:

[Dadpole]

Four year ban? Damn.

I think our loss is greater than his. Iannone looked to be more interested in his non-racing interests lately. From our viewpoint, the days 'Racing Iannone' turned up more than outweighed the indifferent (by his own standards) days.

I still believe - with the right bike and the right mindset - he would give Marquez a right dicking.

[sugilite]

Hmm, I'm surprised the did not test him for under performance drugs going by has last two years results.

[pritch]

That's likely a sudden stoppage of income, I hope he didn't spend all his money on the plastic surgery.

[pritch]

From David Emmett:



"Italian media saying the substance found in Andrea Iannone's test was Drostanolone. Used to be used for breast cancer, now used in bodybuilding.

Iannone asked for B-sample to be analyzed, said he lost 7kg over the course of the season.

Decision in January"

[roogazza]

From David Emmett:



"Italian media saying the substance found in Andrea Iannone's test was Drostanolone. Used to be used for breast cancer, now used in bodybuilding.

Iannone asked for B-sample to be analyzed, said he lost 7kg over the course of the season.

Decision in January"

lol what does Iannone identify as pritch ?

hahaha I wouldn't mind losing 7 kg for sure !!! :laugh:

[pritch]

lol what does Iannone identify as pritch ?

hahaha I wouldn't mind losing 7 kg for sure !!! :laugh:

I don't know about Iannone but I could certainly afford to lose 7kg. My weight would then be about what I told Robert Taylor it was... On the other hand though, sudden unexpected weight loss would be scary.

Have you seen recent photos of Iannone though? He looks completely different to how he looked a year ago. If he's so concerned about his appearance as to undergo plastic surgery, might he be concerned enough to seek chemical help with his body sculpting?

[F5 Dave]

So I had a drunken conversation about sports people with a chap who's sister, . . . ok, its starting to sound like one of 'those ' stories but she was like a medical class and the theory was that sports was rife with enhancement but it was only the careless that got caught. Hence the tiny but strong men with squeaky voices.

[Autech]

So I had a drunken conversation about sports people with a chap who's sister, . . . ok, its starting to sound like one of 'those ' stories but she was like a medical class and the theory was that sports was rife with enhancement but it was only the careless that got caught. Hence the tiny but strong men with squeaky voices.I remember an article a few years ago when Crutchlow said steroids use was prevalent in motogp.

Just tracked it down, damn Crutchlow singled out Iannone with this quote:

I'm not saying that a hard drug here would help. [MotoGP] is not particularly about outright performance, you have one guy here who goes out smoking and drinking, but he's still able to be competitive because he's a natural motorcycle racer.
"But we're talking about needles, rehydration.
"We're not allowed needles. I know for a fact there are needles here. You could be taking diuretics to shed weight, because you're lazy and you don't want to put in the amount of hours that someone else does."

Pretty well summed up I think

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.crash.net/motogp/feature/891561/1/crutchlow-calls-more-antidoping-checks%3famp

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[Reckless]

Rider line up according to Crashnet

Repsol Honda:
Marc Marquez (End of 2020)
Alex Marquez (End of 2020) (Jorge Lorenzo retires at the end of 2019)*

Monster Yamaha:
Maverick Vinales (End of 2020)
Valentino Rossi (End of 2020)

Ducati Team:
Andrea Dovizioso (End of 2020)
Danilo Petrucci (End of 2020)

Suzuki:
Alex Rins (End of 2020)
Joan Mir (End of 2020)

Red Bull KTM:
Pol Espargaro (End of 2020)
Brad Binder (End of 2020)*
Johann Zarco (End of 2020)

Aprilia Gresini:
Aleix Espargaro (End of 2020)
Andrea Iannone (End of 2020)

Tech3 KTM:
Miguel Oliveira (KTM contract, end of 2020)
Iker Lecuona (KTM contract, End of 2020)*
Hafizh Syahrin (Tech3 contract, end of 2019)

LCR Honda:
Cal Crutchlow (HRC contract, end of 2020)
Takaaki Nakagami (HRC contract, end of 2020)

Pramac Ducati:
Francesco Bagnaia (Ducati contract, end of 2020)
Jack Miller (Ducati contract, end of 2020)

Avintia Racing
Johann Zarco (Ducati contract, end of 2020) Karel Abraham (Retires at the end of 2019)
Tito Rabat (End of 2021)

Petronas Yamaha Sepang Team:
Franco Morbidelli (End of 2020)
Fabio Quartararo (End of 2020)

* Rookie.

[pritch]

2020 is going to be a spectacular silly season, I think it has kicked off already.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2019/12/20/the_coming_storm_how_motogp_s_silly.html

[pritch]

Mat Oxley reports whispers saying that Abraham is talking to Aprilia about replacing Iannone in case the latter is banned by WADA.

[pritch]

There is currently an 80 minute documentary on the life and times of Jorge Lorenzo Guerrero available on the MotoGP site. It’s free but you have to register.

[mulletman]

There is currently an 80 minute documentary on the life and times of Jorge Lorenzo Guerrero available on the MotoGP site. It’s free but you have to register.
MotoGP.com ?
Cant see it , looked last night and this morn .

[Kendog]

I couldn’t find it either, but I’m keen to watch it.

[merv]

I couldn’t find it either, but I’m keen to watch it.

Nigel, there is this one on YouTube, is that the same one I wonder? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtmbfvFtEH4

and while the intro is slightly different I think that is the same as this video on the MotoGP site which was from a couple of months ago and it goes back to the last time he won the championship in 2015 https://www.motogp.com/en/video_update/2019/11/14/jorge-lorenzo-guerrero/317929

[pritch]

MotoGP.com ?
Cant see it , looked last night and this morn .

You had to be registered but it was free. Currently I can't access it but it looks as if it's still there.

Merv's suggestion may be good. Both are titled 'Jorge Lorenzo Guerrera' and are about eighty minutes long so it is probably the same thing. And the MotoGP one goes to 2015 too so...

[merv]

You had to be registered but it was free. Currently I can't access it but it looks as if it's still there.

Merv's suggestion may be good. Both are titled 'Jorge Lorenzo Guerrera' and are about eighty minutes long so it is probably the same thing. And the MotoGP one goes to 2015 too so...

Pritch you'll see I put the MotoGP.com link above too if they want to go that way and that link is still working for me.

[Kendog]

Nigel, there is this one on YouTube, is that the same one I wonder? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtmbfvFtEH4

and while the intro is slightly different I think that is the same as this video on the MotoGP site which was from a couple of months ago and it goes back to the last time he won the championship in 2015 https://www.motogp.com/en/video_update/2019/11/14/jorge-lorenzo-guerrero/317929

Thanks Merv 😊

[mulletman]

Nigel, there is this one on YouTube, is that the same one I wonder? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtmbfvFtEH4

and while the intro is slightly different I think that is the same as this video on the MotoGP site which was from a couple of months ago and it goes back to the last time he won the championship in 2015 https://www.motogp.com/en/video_update/2019/11/14/jorge-lorenzo-guerrero/317929


Yep cheers

[mulletman]

Saw on the MotoGP site about Hugh Anderson :woohoo:

This from Crash

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935493/1/lorenzo-biaggi-anderson-become-motogp-legends

[F5 Dave]

Way cool. I enjoyed his book and would recommend it.

[pritch]

Brilliant! I'm really pleased for him.

[roogazza]

another couple of months till racing starts, I'm getting withdrawal symptoms !!

Off for an early fang,pretending, will have to do for the moment !!!!!:shifty::yes::laugh:

[pritch]

another couple of months till racing starts, I'm getting withdrawal symptoms !!

Off for an early fang,pretending, will have to do for the moment !!!!!:shifty::yes::laugh:

Watch the Dakar on SKY Sport 5, or Race 2 Dakar on YouTube. Two seperate events which can be confusing, but they are both racing.

[SaferRides]

Why V4's are faster then inline 4's.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/why-are-motogp-v4s-faster-than-inline-4s?utm_campaign=1269816_MatOxley%20-%20MotoGPV4s&utm_medium=email&utm_source=emailCampaign&dm_i=4DIP,R7SO,3796SX,395CI,1

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[pritch]

Reports overnight that Vinales has signed with Yamaha for 2021 & 22. Which raises the obvious question.

[SaferRides]

Reports overnight that Vinales has signed with Yamaha for 2021 & 22. Which raises the obvious question.There are a few obvious questions!

Mine would be who will Ducati try to sign now that Vinales is staying with Yamaha.

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[pritch]

There are a few obvious questions!

Mine would be who will Ducati try to sign now that Vinales is staying with Yamaha.



I was thinking of the more immediately obvious one, "Who will get the other seat."

[SaferRides]

I was thinking of the more immediately obvious one, "Who will get the other seat."Yes, but that assumes Rossi will retire which is not a given.

It could be a very interesting few months.

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[F5 Dave]

Be more interesting if they were racing.

How about off season 3 race series on marketed out damp paddocks with YZ85s, million euro prize winner takes all:banana:

[SaferRides]

So Quartararo will partner Vinales in 2021. No announcement about Rossi though.

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[pritch]

Mat Oxley posted this but there's nothing new.

[Autech]

Happy to see FQ in Yamaha next year, I do hope Rossi retires as even though he's fairly competitive still, he's lost some of that edge that the younger riders have.
The last thing we need in a period of Rossi domination is someone taking a competitive seat that might be better suited to a younger, more hungry rider.

Every year the rider market seems to get more and more interesting now that all but one of the original the Aliens have vacated the building. Good shit

[onearmedbandit]

Happy to see FQ in Yamaha next year, I do hope Rossi retires as even though he's fairly competitive still, he's lost some of that edge that the younger riders have.
The last thing we need in a period of Rossi domination is someone taking a competitive seat that might be better suited to a younger, more hungry rider.

Every year the rider market seems to get more and more interesting now that all but one of the original the Aliens have vacated the building. Good shit

You hear that a lot. But he has set lap records last year, ridden in spectacular form when the bike has been allowing, and seems to know the definition of hunger pretty damn well. I'm not a 'rossi-fan', I'm a MotoGP fan. And at the moment and for the foreseeable future I don't believe having him race is detrimental to the sport.

[Autech]

You hear that a lot. But he has set lap records last year, ridden in spectacular form when the bike has been allowing, and seems to know the definition of hunger pretty damn well. I'm not a 'rossi-fan', I'm a MotoGP fan. And at the moment and for the foreseeable future I don't believe having him race is detrimental to the sport.

He's definitely still got it, he's not trawling around at the back of the pack, but he's not quite able to make that final step to get into the fray at the front every race, mostly down to his qualifying.
So while he's definitely not detrimental, I can't help wondering who's sitting in Moto2 waiting for a chance to fuck some shit up? Most of this comes down to the Yamaha though, its a horsepower shoot out with the current tyres and they just aren't giving their riders the tools to win races. If they can match Suzukis power maybe we will see him up there, but a Sunday rider like him needs to qualify further forward on that bike otherwise he'll continue to be held up by the Dukes in the top 10.

In saying that I can't think of a rider in Moto2 right now I'd take over Rossi, they've pretty well siphoned all the really exciting riders into Motogp over the past few years.

[sugilite]

I whole heartedly agree with both you guys. But for the love of God please aprillia, do not bring back Bradley Smith.

[pritch]

I whole heartedly agree with both you guys. But for the love of God please aprillia, do not bring back Bradley Smith.

I didn't see that one coming, but it's not impossible. Britain is a big TV market for MotoGP and there has already been concern expressed at the lack of British riders. There's still Crutchlow, but he's talking retirement which would leave nobody in the top class.

[Autech]

I didn't see that one coming, but it's not impossible. Britain is a big TV market for MotoGP and there has already been concern expressed at the lack of British riders. There's still Crutchlow, but he's talking retirement which would leave nobody in the top class.

And no one in the lower classes actually any good from the UK that I can see... UK's best rider is in WSBK this year, Redding, he never got a good enough bike in Motogp to strut his stuff. Wonder if Ducati will move him to the factory team in Motogp next year if he does ok this year in WSBK? No doubt Dorna will be in their ear asking for it.

[onearmedbandit]

He's definitely still got it, he's not trawling around at the back of the pack, but he's not quite able to make that final step to get into the fray at the front every race, mostly down to his qualifying.
So while he's definitely not detrimental, I can't help wondering who's sitting in Moto2 waiting for a chance to fuck some shit up? Most of this comes down to the Yamaha though, its a horsepower shoot out with the current tyres and they just aren't giving their riders the tools to win races. If they can match Suzukis power maybe we will see him up there, but a Sunday rider like him needs to qualify further forward on that bike otherwise he'll continue to be held up by the Dukes in the top 10.

In saying that I can't think of a rider in Moto2 right now I'd take over Rossi, they've pretty well siphoned all the really exciting riders into Motogp over the past few years.

Can't argue with much of that.

[Reckless]

This is pretty much on the money I reckon.

https://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/rossi-quartararo-yamaha-and-petronas-what-the-hell-just-happened/?fbclid=IwAR1kvdHyCgb_SXGT-lSqwg5fUUgK3mhaZRMG9Neg4mRvnyNq3V4XXrk4YjI

Add this to the above and you have the best team out there Especially if MM is not 100%.

[pritch]

It is referred to in that Bike Me article, I’m not sure how much publicity it’s had, but Lorenzo has signed with Yamaha as a test rider.

[onearmedbandit]

It is referred to in that Bike Me article, I’m not sure how much publicity it’s had, but Lorenzo has signed with Yamaha as a test rider.

Yeah it's all over the usual facebook pages and groups, and widely viewed as an excellent decision by Yamaha.

[F5 Dave]

I haven't seen any Boris stuff for ten or more years. Thought he was s bit of a dick. But that was funny and insightful.

[pritch]

Yeah it's all over the usual facebook pages and groups, and widely viewed as an excellent decision by Yamaha.

Hopefully it's a sign that Yamaha are serious again. They have had a habit of taking their eye off the ball periodically. Previously they would have just the two factory spec bikes and wouldn't budge, Quarteraro though will have a factory spec bike this year. and now they've signed Lorenzo to test. Here's hoping the engineers have been as motivated.

[roogazza]

Hopefully it's a sign that Yamaha are serious again. They have had a habit of taking their eye off the ball periodically. Previously they would have just the two factory spec bikes and wouldn't budge, Quarteraro though will have a factory spec bike this year. and now they've signed Lorenzo to test. Here's hoping the engineers have been as motivated.

Yes ! Go yamaha ! Just hoping they have the HP they wanted ? <_<

[Reckless]

More news re Yamaha.

Viñales, Quartararo and Lorenzo have put pen to paper in January as the Iwata factory send down a gauntlet to their rivals
Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team means business. With contracts for most riders ending at the end of the 2020 season, the rider market is bubbling with endless discussions about who is riding where beyond this season. But the Iwata factory have made a statement of intent: Maverick Viñales, Fabio Quartararo and Jorge Lorenzo have put pen to paper with the factory setup before February.

Secondly
Yamaha has announced that Maverick Viñales will remain with the factory team until the end of the 2022 season, the Spaniard signing a two-year contract extension with his current team.

Thirdly
2019 Rookie of the Year Fabio Quartararo will join Maverick Viñales at Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team in 2021 and 2022.

Any money left to run the bike LOL

So they have got Maverick Viñales, Fabio Quartararo, Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo
Lets hope the actual bike is fast enough this year????

[F5 Dave]

I have a Two Wheels mag from late 90s headline How Simon Crafer saved GPs sitting on the kitchen table.

2020, how surgery saved Motogp . Unfortunately MM is too good. But hopefully little Bro can ride the Honda competitively and both Crutchy and Dovi get a shot in the arm so this season has some great racing.
Miller can help here too improving bit by bit.

Ideally we want at least 3 brands of dynamically different bikes yet all still competitive ridden by aliens from different planets. That makes compelling racing.

[onearmedbandit]

So they have got Maverick Viñales, Fabio Quartararo, Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo
Lets hope the actual bike is fast enough this year????

Franco isn't slow either, give him another season and we'll see. If he doesn't do it this year though he might be on the edge.

[Autech]

Franco isn't slow either, give him another season and we'll see. If he doesn't do it this year though he might be on the edge.Can't quite put my finger on it but franco doesn't quite get my heart racing.
Happy to be proven wrong be there's something missing from him that doesn't scream alien.

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[Dadpole]

The main issue with Franco is his team mate. Looked at in isolation, Morbids results are pretty good. 115 points and 10th place for the year should be seen as good for a rider new to the bike and a new team. Just that pesky Quasimodo making him (and many others) look pedestrian.

[george formby]

Lurking on the alien periphery we have Rins, too. Suzuki may make a bigger contribution this season.

We shall see, hopefully MM will have to work very hard this season.

[BMWST?]

Lurking on the alien periphery we have Rins, too. Suzuki may make a bigger contribution this season.

We shall see, hopefully MM will have to work very hard this season.
And Mir ,he was right up there towards the end of the season

[steveyb]

I for one am hoping that Aprilia have made a big step with the new bike.
Aleix is perhaps not as fast a rider as they really need, but if the bike is a good step closer, then he too will be a good step closer.
But, it may take some time to dial the bike in properly.
KTM will have made steps forward, but likely to be smaller, more incremental.
It would be cool to see Asparagus P and Asparagus A racing together for like 4, 5, or 6th places and the odd 3, 4.

[SaferRides]

https://motomatters.com/results/2020/02/03/sepang_motogp_shakedown_test_day_2.html

Mainly the test riders but the new Aprilia is doing OK. Dani Pedrosa fastest on a KTM.

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[mulletman]

Iannone has hair evidence that might get him thru

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/05/motogp/breaking-news-iannone-trial-postponed-evidence-throws-a-curve-ball.html

[pritch]

MotoGP teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59OsWcpgNow

[pritch]

Final results day 2 at Sepang test, day 3 currently in progress but rain is forecast.

[Autech]

Interesting testing.
Hard to draw too many conclusions but it looks like the tyres have changed big time again, with more rear grip we may see some interesting changes in riding styles.

KTM looking very good, fast lap pace of Dani was very good so perhaps they might be in Q2 more often this season, they got the riders for it so fingers crossed.

Bring on Qatar

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[iYRe]

Interesting testing.
Hard to draw too many conclusions but it looks like the tyres have changed big time again, with more rear grip we may see some interesting changes in riding styles.

KTM looking very good, fast lap pace of Dani was very good so perhaps they might be in Q2 more often this season, they got the riders for it so fingers crossed.

Bring on Qatar

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Also need to remember that MM is still recovering from shoulder surgery.. his recent posts on facebook suggest its not 100% yet (as in, still a bit of pain)

[F5 Dave]

And yet Qatar seems to be one of those strange ccts that seem to throw up front runners that aren't always truly indicative of the rest of the season. Which makes it a great first round.

[mulletman]

Michelin did bring a new rear tyre and everyone has to adapt there new bikes to it, Dovi and Petrucci are struggling with this.

Yamaha tested a holeshot device and Suzuki will at Qatar.

Aprilia came with two bikes and things look promising considering it was its first time out in anger, the new engine hasnt had any development and its doing quite well,
plenty of potential to ge more speed out of it. They only had 2 engines so it was a rebuild and examine after each day.

[Autech]

Pol reckons the KTM is as fast as the dukes too...
Damn

Bring it

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[F5 Dave]

Good grief. Next Kawasaki will slink back in with a competitive bike:shit:

[Autech]

Good grief. Next Kawasaki will slink back in with a competitive bike:shit:Doubt they would throw the coin in like KTM have.
Its just amazing the progress over the last year since they brought Pedrosa in, I wonder how many little tricks he had in his head from Honda he was able to pass on to them.

Even Aprilia appear to have made a big step, these concessions are working

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[pritch]

Doubt they would throw the coin in like KTM have.


Agreed, they are happy winning WSBK currently. If they ever got really serious about GPs though they'd have to be a threat, they've got more coin than anybody else.

[onearmedbandit]

Agreed, they are happy winning WSBK currently. If they ever got really serious about GPs though they'd have to be a threat, they've got more coin than anybody else.

KHI has huge resources indeed but they've never been serious about GP's. In fact motorcycle production is of little concern to them. I read once that one of the reasons they got serious about bike production was they saw the exposure Honda was getting in America from it.

[Autech]

Agreed, they are happy winning WSBK currently. If they ever got really serious about GPs though they'd have to be a threat, they've got more coin than anybody else.I wonder how many titles they would have won without Rea though?
Bikes definitely a screamer, I have a feeling Redding is gunna show em up this year though (here's hoping)

Just thinking about the concessions in motogp and how effective they have been,
Ducati and Suzuki have both managed to bridge the development gap to become race winning bikes.
If KTM make the jump then perhaps Kawasaki may look to pop on over for a look? Especially if they start getting smoked in wsbk

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[pritch]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/yamaha-tops-first-motogp-preseason-tests-but-does-it-matter

[Autech]

Anyone keen for the $100 betting challenge again this year?

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[Dadpole]

I had a quick peek at the TAB site and I could find no option for a podium. Looked to be wins only. The TAB help pages were laughable. :clap:

[Autech]

I had a quick peek at the TAB site and I could find no option for a podium. Looked to be wins only. The TAB help pages were laughable. :clap:IIRC they only populate it fully the week of the race.
Should be some good potential to earn decent odds this year if you take a punt early in the week on a win for one of the sat bikes or the Suzuki's.

I'm keen for another hoon

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[ecko_nzed]

KHI has huge resources indeed but they've never been serious about GP's. In fact motorcycle production is of little concern to them. I read once that one of the reasons they got serious about bike production was they saw the exposure Honda was getting in America from it.Funny you should mention that....

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/16/motogp/ezpeleta-kawasaki-wanted-a-motogp-wild-card-for-their-superbike.html

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[pritch]

Ezpeleta received his share of negative coverage in the English language motorcycling press and he presided over developments that were unpopular at the time. Now though, it's hard to deny that it's a great product that he's selling.

[ecko_nzed]

Agreed, it's an exciting product. Even when it became clear this season that Marquez was going dominate, it was still exciting racing. The man knows how to make things entertaining.

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[Autech]

Its only testing, but can't help thinking Honda might be in the shit with their chassis this year. MM being older and not at 100% vs a much improved field...
Hmmm...
Time will tell but here's hoping someone ends his dominance, no doubt it will be a different rider beating him when he doesn't win again like last year so he's still in with a good shot

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[Brett]

Its only testing, but can't help thinking Honda might be in the shit with their chassis this year. MM being older and not at 100% vs a much improved field...
Hmmm...
Time will tell but here's hoping someone ends his dominance, no doubt it will be a different rider beating him when he doesn't win again like last year so he's still in with a good shot

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MM is a talented, tough little mother fucker, however I wouldn't be surprised if 2018/2019 was seen as him peaking. I suspect he is going to suffer more with that shoulder and, given the way Marc simply cannot ride without pushing the limits, he will still crash. At some point, he will aggravate the shoulder(s) further and they will be a constant niggle. But hey - you can never underestimate MM. My pick would be FQ for first championship title this year, although the heart obviously wishes for #10 for VR46.

Regardless, can't wait for the season to commence. Going to Austin this year for the Texas round, so a new track to experience which will be cool.

[pritch]

MM is a talented, tough little mother fucker, however I wouldn't be surprised if 2018/2019 was seen as him peaking. I suspect he is going to suffer more with that shoulder

It was an injury not unlike that which ended the career of Freddie Spencer IIRC. I wish 93 well.

[Autech]

MM is a talented, tough little mother fucker, however I wouldn't be surprised if 2018/2019 was seen as him peaking. I suspect he is going to suffer more with that shoulder and, given the way Marc simply cannot ride without pushing the limits, he will still crash. At some point, he will aggravate the shoulder(s) further and they will be a constant niggle. But hey - you can never underestimate MM. My pick would be FQ for first championship title this year, although the heart obviously wishes for #10 for VR46.

Regardless, can't wait for the season to commence. Going to Austin this year for the Texas round, so a new track to experience which will be cool.

We also can't overlook the value that Pedrosa had in aiding the development of the bike, this years bike will be the first he had absolutely no influence over. So without his input and sensitivity will the bike lose some of its direction? Not having any other top riders on board it won't help there either, Honda need a 2nd alien, lets see how Alex goes. Otherwise they'll need to try and lure one of the KTM boys with some decent coin.
A fully fit MM might be able to beat a field of riders if he has the engine to do so, but if they other teams have made a step on the engine front he'll lose the weapon he used to great effect last year. He'll maybe not be able to just shadow the Suzukis and Yamahas then get them at the end but will have to risk more on the front end of a bike which has lost it's edge in that area.

Austin should be a laugh, I'm actually planning a trip where I'll be very near there so maybe I should try and match the dates? Hmmm.... Hadn't thought of that!

[Reckless]

Young fella's rising to the top old fella's just hanging on, the way I see it.

Top 10 Day 2:
1. Fabio Quartararo (Petronas Yamaha SRT) – 1:54.038
2. Alex Rins (Team Suzuki Ecstar) + 0.162
3. Maverick Viñales (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) + 0.226
4. Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) + 0.443
5. Francesco Bagnaia (Pramac Racing) + 0.482
6. Johann Zarco (Reale Avintia Racing) + 0.527
7. Joan Mir (Team Suzuki Ecstar) + 0.574
8. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati Team) + 0.624
9. Valentino Rossi (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) + 0.702
10. Takaaki Nakagami (LCR Honda Idemitsu) + 0.721

[jato]

Zarco ... The cat could well be amongst the Ducati pigeons this year. Only testing of course but he might be on bounce back from sad times.

[pritch]

Just saw most of "After the Flag". I'm not sure if it's still available, I can't get it now.

The young dudes are looking good. Even Binder on the KTM has some famous names astern. Honda are having problems. Crutchlow has been outspoken about lack of front end feel and pushing the front end, as he would. Marquez, normally very diplomatic, has joined the chorus. In the final session when everybody else was out trying for a fast lap, MM was riding Nakagami's '19 bike with different aero packages. Honda, at this stage, don't know whether it's the frame, the engine, or the aero package that's the problem.

Honda engineers are quoted as saying they like being given a problem, it gives them something to work on. They should be happy then, but I wouldn't bet they don't fix the problem by Qatar.

[SaferRides]

I thought Honda might struggle, although last off season was possibly even worse in terms of available riders.

Qatar is a weird track. The last rider to win at Qatar and go on to win the championship was Marquez in 2014.

[pritch]

Qatar is a weird track. The last rider to win at Qatar and go on to win the championship was Marquez in 2014.

There is a long straight? That might suit Ducati who have squeezed a little more top speed out of their engine.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/24/vinales-heads-yamaha-top-three-lockout-in-qatar/325822?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=offseason_qatartestreportd3_en&utm_campaign=Traffic

[SaferRides]

There is a long straight? That might suit Ducati who have squeezed a little more top speed out of their engine.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/24/vinales-heads-yamaha-top-three-lockout-in-qatar/325822?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=offseason_qatartestreportd3_en&utm_campaign=TrafficThere is indeed. 1068 m according to Wikipedia.

[Autech]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/936533/1/marquez-great-step-after-being-completely-lost#block-load-comments-ajax-load-comments-ajax

MM has found a way by the looks, he usually doesn't talk shit so that's the Honda question mostly answered.
If he can salvage some decent results until his shoulder is healed and a different rider takes their turn winning each time then he'll be fine.

Hoping Miller can score some wins this year, he's developing bloody well by the looks

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[SaferRides]

Interesting. I am starting to think Honda need a better test rider than Bradl. Just look at the quality of some of the test riders in the other teams.

By rights, Honda should have signed Dani but Puig fucked up any chance of that happening.

[Autech]

Interesting. I am starting to think Honda need a better test rider than Bradl. Just look at the quality of some of the test riders in the other teams.

By rights, Honda should have signed Dani but Puig fucked up any chance of that happening.That's cause Puig is a bell end.
Glad Dani fucked off though, a competitive KTM is just around the corner and the more bikes in the mix, the better :)

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[pritch]

Mat Oxley, just back from Sepang, posted some photos of the new track at Lombock, Indonesia. He remarked simply, "Interesting."

Very interesting when you consider it is scheduled to host a MotoGP round next year.


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[F5 Dave]

Panic mode aside, or rather perhaps because of it at a government level, will we see any cancellation of races for Coronavirus?

[pritch]

Panic mode aside, or rather perhaps because of it at a government level, will we see any cancellation of races for Coronavirus?

Not impossible. We can but hope.

Thailand is scheduled for 22 March, North and South America round that time too.

Between then and late in the season the action is all in Europe. Guess it depends on where the disease decides to spread.

[Autech]

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/26/motogp/ducati-beyond-the-sound-barrier-yamaha-still-forced-to-chase.html?amp

Some huge gains in top speed been made. Thinking the new Ducati aero is designed such that when Miller hits the drop arse button it reduces some of the drag.

Ducati once again pioneering while the other teams try to keep up, all they need is the right riders on the factory bikes

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[SaferRides]

355 is getting a bit crazy. OK at Losail, but Mugello and PI were dangerous enough in 2019.

Could be an interesting year if you're an Aprillia rider!

[Autech]

355 is getting a bit crazy. OK at Losail, but Mugello and PI were dangerous enough in 2019.

Could be an interesting year if you're an Aprillia rider!I hear there's a seat vacant, might put my name forward

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[F5 Dave]

Well see what dental plan they are offering and hold out if it's not to par.

[steveyb]

Panic mode aside, or rather perhaps because of it at a government level, will we see any cancellation of races for Coronavirus?

Yep.

http://www.fim-live.com/en/article/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/?fbclid=IwAR1CvzcHg2f1A4P9aDsfQIjRU6u-0ToNVm1ieWAldHXpD_pK3Ym0lX_CywU

[ecko_nzed]

Yep.

http://www.fim-live.com/en/article/motogp-class-cancelled-at-the-grand-prix-of-qatar/?fbclid=IwAR1CvzcHg2f1A4P9aDsfQIjRU6u-0ToNVm1ieWAldHXpD_pK3Ym0lX_CywUWell that sucks!

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[F5 Dave]

I heard it was all started by a bad batch of Mexican beer. :confused:

[pritch]

I heard it was all started by a bad batch of Mexican beer. :confused:

Apparently some 38% of Yanks won't buy the beer - just in case. Probably the same 38% that support Trump. Since I was out and about Saturday night, and since Corona was available, I'd thought I'd better show some support. :drinkup:

[Autech]

Apparently some 38% of Yanks won't buy the beer - just in case. Probably the same 38% that support Trump. Since I was out and about Saturday night, and since Corona was available, I'd thought I'd better show some support. :drinkup:That and its a bloody refreshing beverage.

I suspect we will see more than just this round effected. Booooo!

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[onearmedbandit]

Apparently some 38% of Yanks won't buy the beer - just in case. Probably the same 38% that support Trump. Since I was out and about Saturday night, and since Corona was available, I'd thought I'd better show some support. :drinkup:

A survey of 737 beer drinkers doesn't really represent America. No doubt some of those 737 voted Trump, no doubt some of them voted Clinton. But still only 737 people isn't indicative of anything.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/survey-nearly-40-of-americans-wont-buy-corona-under-any-circumstances-because-of-coronavirus-outbreak/


5W Public Relations said that 38% of Americans wouldn’t buy Corona “under any circumstances” because of the outbreak, and another 14% said they wouldn’t order a Corona in public. The survey encompasses polling from 737 beer drinkers in the United States.

[roogazza]

That and its a bloody refreshing beverage.

I suspect we will see more than just this round effected. Booooo!

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yes ,big deal for me cos I've done 15 yrs travelling to GPs . Was gunna do one more Mugello but with a buggered Immune system, that's it for me.... :(:(:mellow: Oh well .

[actungbaby]

Well that sucks!

Sent from my TA-1012 using TapatalkYeah but what I don't understand is why bikes are there race what you have.if a team are disadvantaged we
Give others chance to shine.
But guess it's the show know.

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[BMWST?]

Yeah but what I don't understand is why bikes are there race what you have.if a team are disadvantaged we
Give others chance to shine.
But guess it's the show know.

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sorry mate i dont get your argument at all.I didnt read that artice because of the cookie bullshit.However from Moto matters the issue is the travel restrictions.Some team members would not be able to even enter Dubai??.So for equality they have cancelled.Moto 3 and moto2 will rce cos they are alreaady there.

[onearmedbandit]

And on it goes. Or doesn't...

https://www.bangkokpost.com/sports/1869749/buriram-motogp-postponed-indefinitely-due-to-coronavirus

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah but what I don't understand is why bikes are there race what you have.if a team are disadvantaged we
Give others chance to shine.
But guess it's the show know.

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sorry mate i dont get your argument at all.I didnt read that artice because of the cookie bullshit.However from Moto matters the issue is the travel restrictions.Some team members would not be able to even enter Dubai??.So for equality they have cancelled.Moto 3 and moto2 will rce cos they are alreaady there.

Exactly this. The Moto2 and 3 teams are already there. Anyone flying in from Italy (and a few other countries) will be quarantined for 14 days upon arrival. A large number of teams, suppliers etc are coming in from Italy. Well not any longer. So MotoGP literally can't go ahead.

[pritch]

A survey of 737 beer drinkers doesn't really represent America. No doubt some of those 737 voted Trump, no doubt some of them voted Clinton. But still only 737 people isn't indicative of anything.


You missed the point entirely but that's OK.

The share price is down and US sales are down too, so it's a lot more than just the 737 in the survey.

[onearmedbandit]

You missed the point entirely but that's OK.

The share price is down and US sales are down too, so it's a lot more than just the 737 in the survey.

Fair enough, my bad if I did. Just I had heard that survey quoted earlier in some media and had looked it up.

[pritch]

Fair enough, my bad if I did. Just I had heard that survey quoted earlier in some media and had looked it up.

A recent poll showed Trump had 38% support. The survey quoted 38% associating the beer with the virus prompted the thought that it's the same people. 'Cause...

[onearmedbandit]

A recent poll showed Trump had 38% support. The survey quoted 38% associating the beer with the virus prompted the thought that it's the same people. 'Cause...

Oh yeah I saw the joke in that reference. I only added the political part in my post to deflect any possible suggestion I was challenging your post because of what you mentioned.

[SaferRides]

Shit, no race until COTA. That's nearly 5 weeks.

[Autech]

The lengths Marquez goes to win a championship...
His shoulders fucked, so he organises a mass virus outbreak to give him a few more rounds to recover. Starting to believe the 2015 conspiracies now...

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[SaferRides]

The lengths Marquez goes to win a championship...
His shoulders fucked, so he organises a mass virus outbreak to give him a few more rounds to recover. Starting to believe the 2015 conspiracies now...

Sent from my SM-A730F using TapatalkIt also gives Honda another month to sort out their engine and aero before the first race.

But what are Ducati and Aprillia going to do? I doubt they'll be allowed into the US for COTA, probably not Argentina either. Will MotoGP become a European championship this year?

[pritch]

People are being very helpful. Moto 2 & 3 riders have suggested that a race be held with them riding the MotoGP bikes.

Mat Oxley has suggested that the journalists be allowed to race them Sunday night. There might be a few less journalists Monday morning.

[Reckless]

I'm glad of the extra time me and my son used to share the subscription and cost now he's bowing out.
Renovations and a race bike to run??
Gets pricey on your own :(

[Autech]

It also gives Honda another month to sort out their engine and aero before the first race.

But what are Ducati and Aprillia going to do? I doubt they'll be allowed into the US for COTA, probably not Argentina either. Will MotoGP become a European championship this year?Don't forget Yamaha are based in Italy as well

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[Autech]

People are being very helpful. Moto 2 & 3 riders have suggested that a race be held with them riding the MotoGP bikes.

Mat Oxley has suggested that the journalists be allowed to race them Sunday night. There might be a few less journalists Monday morning.Keen

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[James Deuce]

Shit, no race until COTA. That's nearly 5 weeks.

I highly doubt COTA will go ahead. The political and financial elite are so sure that by not responding to corona virus they can cull all those poverty-stricken liberal voters by essentially not responding to the threat at all and making sure that any treatment/vaccine is too expensive for most people to afford it that the US will be suffering deaths in the hundreds per day in 5 weeks time. The US is the one country who is a problem when trying to contain a pandemic. Access to preventative measures is a socialist act and it is better for people to die than for "me" to fund treatment for someone I don't know. They can always start a Go Fund Me.

[actungbaby]

People are being very helpful. Moto 2 & 3 riders have suggested that a race be held with them riding the MotoGP bikes.

Mat Oxley has suggested that the journalists be allowed to race them Sunday night. There might be a few less journalists Monday morning.Well did you put see that guy called in to ice hockey in the states.
Spencer there the Roman .then in the states get Kevin Kenny his son few others .be pension MotoGP .do it in music .

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[Banditbandit]

It's also hitting F1 racing .. and with many riders from Italy MotoGP is definitely under threat ..

Won't be long before all international events are cancelled ..

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/autos/news/exclusive-f1-cannot-race-if-a-team-is-denied-entry-due-to-virus-says-brawn/ar-BB10HJoW?ocid=ob-fb-ennz-nonnewsnz&fbclid=IwAR3ER_p_2DFpAmKDqf7QqgMqDlvKzGpFn7byhhv5y Fj-6J0hCG3RqxJlqZ0

[pritch]

Well did you see that guy called in to ice hockey in the states.


Yes, that was a brilliant story. Standing mostly immobile in a hockey goal is very different to punting a 250hp MotoGP bike around a track though.

[onearmedbandit]

Well this isn't a surprise. But fantastic news.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937022/1/official-jorge-lorenzo-race-yamaha-wildcard

[roogazza]

Well this isn't a surprise. But fantastic news.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937022/1/official-jorge-lorenzo-race-yamaha-wildcard

Yes and lets hope the bloody excitement over this virus thingy doesn't fuck the season ???

[actungbaby]

Well this isn't a surprise. But fantastic news.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937022/1/official-jorge-lorenzo-race-yamaha-wildcardBrillent alright I still think should have raced this weekend .why not have system like used to way back you can drop your worst round. 19 races count from the 20.i don't think Qatar is popular round.only reason it's there is money .and prestige .stands are not full.and doubt they sell many bikes to dam hot.

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[actungbaby]

Yes, that was a brilliant story. Standing mostly immobile in a hockey goal is very different to punting a 250hp MotoGP bike around a track though.Be amazing see all MotoGP boys on same bikes race.that be amazing .
Even was standred bikes . production or superbikes.pity so rich guy doesint offer one of race .at iconic race track winner takes all .has ever been done ? Gp stars used race other events.

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[onearmedbandit]

Brillent alright I still think should have raced this weekend .why not have system like used to way back you can drop your worst round. 19 races count from the 20.i don't think Qatar is popular round.only reason it's there is money .and prestige .stands are not full.and doubt they sell many bikes to dam hot.

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There is no option for them (MotoGP class) to race this weekend as they can't enter the country without going into quarantine.

[pritch]

There is no option for them (MotoGP class) to race this weekend as they can't enter the country without going into quarantine.

Alex Briggs posted a clip of him and his new pup playing on the beach. I hope he's on a salary.

Apparently the Moto 2 and 3 riders have been wandering around completely bored with nothing to do. Mat Oxley said he had a couple of pints - £15 each. $61.42 for two beers?? At those prices you wouldn't want to spend too much time in the bar. The football fans are in for a shock at the World Cup.

[diesel pig]

So I take it because certain officials who need to be present to run a GP cannot get into Qatar either they are not going to run the Moto2 and 3 either?

[roogazza]

So I take it because certain officials who need to be present to run a GP cannot get into Qatar either they are not going to run the Moto2 and 3 either?

I copied Moto2 and Moto3 in the early hours last night . Haven't looked at the race timings yet tho.

[diesel pig]

I stand corrected, I am watching Moto3 practice right now

[SaferRides]

Lorenzo has a wild card for Catalunya, i assume on a full factory bike. That should be interesting if the race goes ahead.

[onearmedbandit]

Things are not getting better. Italy is preparing to pass a new law which will see around 11 provinces including Rossi's hometown locked down, and now Austin has declared a city state of emergency...

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937190/1/coronavirus-italy-preparing-quarantine-key-regions

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937122/1/austin-motogp-doubts-increase-after-local-state-disaster

[onearmedbandit]

Well as there is no MotoGP to discuss (and may not be for a while) how was that Moto2 qualifying session? Joe Roberts, first American to qualify on pole in 10yrs.

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[pritch]

Millions of Italians in the north of the country have been placed in quarantine. When Italians in the Moto 2 & 3 teams were asked if they will be travelling home after tonight’s races most replied they would. They would rather be locked in with friends and family than locked out.

[mulletman]

John McPhee will be kicking himself i reckon for not passing Albert Arenas during that last lap , i guess he didnt want to lead into the straight and be passed in the slipstream - he would've been fine...great race all the same from Moto3.

Tetsuta Nagashima was outstanding comming thru the pack and destoying Baldassari and Bastianini in the last couple of laps, in his interview he said he wasnt checking his lap times or seeing where anyone else was when he hit the front - didnt want the distraction.

[pritch]

David Emmett says that he has it from reliable sources that:
1 Austin will be cancelled
2 Austin will go ahead
3 There will be an announcement Tuesday

He thinks 3 most likely. We'll see.

Bear in mind though that SXSW which was to take place in Austin was cancelled.

[SaferRides]

COTA is postponed until November 15 with Valencia moved back a week to still be the finale.

[roogazza]

COTA is postponed until November 15 with Valencia moved back a week to still be the finale.

aahhhhhhhhh it's all turning to shit ! I have no faith at all. :mad:

[jato]

Yip the season is toast - i wonder how "easy" it'll be to get a refund on the video pass? Its a long slog on the farm here during winter/feeding out/calving and motogp is (was) the only thing to look forward to...

[mulletman]

I wonder if the'll double up a round somewhere ?

And they still have back up tracks like Portamao and Estirol they could use at the mo.

[iYRe]

Well, since there is no MOTOGP to watch, I highly recommend the doco "hitting the apex" if you havent seen it (trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmT_vnJ1jzw )

Fascinating look into why, how, what, etc.. I reckon the stuff on Marquez is interesting, he was a real loose unit at the beginning (just pin it until you fall off), but now he still manages to maintain that ability to go above and beyond, with a little bit of maturity - even Rossi says he will probably be one of the greats, if not the greatest of all time - even if you dont like him, you still gotta admit he can do things most others cant. Fascinating stuff i reckon.

[Autech]

Fuck

Fuck

Fuckity

Fuck Coronavirus. It can go eat a huge bag of dicks.

[actungbaby]

Round in NZ go go only kidding .
I say its really not going work out.
Really if there not going use common sence get there setups moved out italy then it's there tough luck.
But probably won't matter .music concerts being cancelled too.end the day people's health more important.

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[F5 Dave]

fuck

fuck

fuckity

fuck coronavirus. It can go eat a huge bag of dicks.

Rampage!!,!

[SaferRides]

Argentina postponed until November also.

I doubt the season will start until Italy has things under control, and that could take some time.

[pritch]

Argentina postponed until November also.

I doubt the season will start until Italy has things under control, and that could take some time.

It might take longer than that. Various local and national bodies are placing limits on the numbers that can attend any public event and putting the responsibility on organisers. In those circumstances nobody much will take the risk.

Santa Clara County CA, home of the Golden State Warriors NBA team, has placed a 1000 limit on any public event. The city of Austin, Texas, cancelled the SXSW festival.

[Autech]

Rampage!!,!I have decided if I catch it I will drink a few bottles of Jim Beam. Lets see if this bitch virus can handle its booze

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[actungbaby]

Rampage!!,!
It might take longer than that. Various local and national bodies are placing limits on the numbers that can attend any public event and putting the responsibility on organisers. In those circumstances nobody much will take the risk.

Santa Clara County CA, home of the Golden State Warriors NBA team, has placed a 1000 limit on any public event. The city of Austin, Texas, cancelled the SXSW festival.Self isolate on are bikes

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[actungbaby]

Say to the wife am only thinking of your safety I be in spare room with PS4 for next 14 days [emoji3]

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[george formby]

I have decided if I catch it I will drink a few bottles of Jim Beam. Lets see if this bitch virus can handle its booze

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Good call. I might get a case of Newcastle Brown Ale in, effectively chemotherapy. If I can survive the two day hangover anything I had will be toast or inconsequential compared to that pain.

Ah, problem. Need lots of toilet paper IIRC.

[Dadpole]

I am knocking back some Coronas in the hope the virus will not attack its own kind. That is my logic anyway.

[pritch]

Say to the wife am only thinking of your safety I be in spare room with PS4 for next 14 days


With reference to the fact that a lot of people are now working from home for the first time, a motorcycling journo with twenty years experience of working from home offered some important advice. "If you can't find your coffee cup - it's in the microwave."

[iYRe]

also, speaking as an IT professional who is part of the "pandemic planning team" at work.. be prepared for peoples internet shit to fall over.

[Autech]

also, speaking as an IT professional who is part of the "pandemic planning team" at work.. be prepared for peoples internet shit to fall over.Ahhh, why?

Speaking as an IT professional outside of the loop...

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[iYRe]

A lot of places havent accounted for the additional bandwidth required, for a start. General usage of the internet has gone up 10% in the last few weeks. In Italy it has gone up 30% (not to mention usage patterns have changed from evening to day time)

Add to that peoples firewalls and routers that arent prepared for the additional load (throughput, sessions etc).

We've prepared a whole bunch of remote kit, and have a reasonable firewall, but we're not sure just exactly what will happen when a whole bunch of people connect at once, should be ok, but we havent been able to stress test it.

I know of a lot of places that have pretty budget equipment that might not work properly. Plus ISP's dont carry that much overhead - internationally anyway, domestic wont be so much problem, but still, you can imagine a large chunk of the population and their kids all home for 2 weeks..

[Autech]

A lot of places havent accounted for the additional bandwidth required, for a start. General usage of the internet has gone up 10% in the last few weeks. In Italy it has gone up 30% (not to mention usage patterns have changed from evening to day time)

Add to that peoples firewalls and routers that arent prepared for the additional load (throughput, sessions etc).

We've prepared a whole bunch of remote kit, and have a reasonable firewall, but we're not sure just exactly what will happen when a whole bunch of people connect at once, should be ok, but we havent been able to stress test it.

I know of a lot of places that have pretty budget equipment that might not work properly. Plus ISP's dont carry that much overhead - internationally anyway, domestic wont be so much problem, but still, you can imagine a large chunk of the population and their kids all home for 2 weeks..Ahh I am with ya.

I am so used to working from a home office I hadn't thought about the difference of lots more people connecting remotely at once.

I'd say the load difference during the day from an ISP perspective shouldn't be too much more than in the evening when everyone is streaming Netflix and such, so long as they are doing work and not Netflixing as well as working...

The killer will be as you say at the business end, with the multiple places running shitty Huawei business routers sent by their ISP, expecting us to magically make their staff able to work from home through their shitty Huawei home routers. I have already had a few new companies requesting VPNs be set up so I wonder if that was what's behind it.

Going to be interesting!




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[iYRe]

Ahh I am with ya.

I am so used to working from a home office I hadn't thought about the difference of lots more people connecting remotely at once.

I'd say the load difference during the day from an ISP perspective shouldn't be too much more than in the evening when everyone is streaming Netflix and such, so long as they are doing work and not Netflixing as well as working...

The killer will be as you say at the business end, with the multiple places running shitty Huawei business routers sent by their ISP, expecting us to magically make their staff able to work from home through their shitty Huawei home routers. I have already had a few new companies requesting VPNs be set up so I wonder if that was what's behind it.

Going to be interesting!


Well, ISP's dont run much overhead, but then, probably only the smaller ones will be affected anyway.

Yeah, sure will be interesting

[pritch]

The killer will be as you say at the business end,

Monkey business? In the places where people have been confined to their homes it has been suggested that this will lead to a baby boom.

[iYRe]

Monkey business? In the places where people have been confined to their homes it has been suggested that this will lead to a baby boom.

And a lot of traffic to pornhub..

[Autech]

Monkey business? In the places where people have been confined to their homes it has been suggested that this will lead to a baby boom.Fuck not another generation of boomers?

Good excuse to have a root though I guess.
Lets get Netflix introducing new content A S A P

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[Dadpole]

I am planning to watch last seasons races again. I need my fix...
Just as well I never restarted the $100 TAB game :lol:

[pritch]

Lets get Netflix introducing new content A S A P


I have a largish list to watch at the moment. The NY Times and others print lists of the best movies on Netflix, of course most of them are not available in NZ but some are. Could always pay for a VPN?

YouTube is s source of old movies. They try to charge for some but there is a lot of free stuff. I just watched one that impressed the Hell outa me when I was 10. It wasn't quite so impressive this time, but it was OK. When I was 10 I didn't notice that the medieval Englishmen had American accents.

[roogazza]

I am planning to watch last seasons races again. I need my fix...
Just as well I never restarted the $100 TAB game :lol:

From Adelaide in the mid eighties,for a few years, I copied GP's to VHS and sent them back to mates at the Wellington Motorcycle Center. Must make contact and see what happened to them ? Think they used to play them in the shop ?
Maybe convert them to CD if could find them?
Some great stuff in those days.

[Dadpole]

I had the same from a mate in Sydney. Early through to late Eighties. I had a boxful that seems to have evaporated when we moved as I can only find a couple now.:(

[george formby]

I bought a big box of VHS tapes for $5 about 6 months ago.

The idea was to sell them on and turn a few $$$'s.

One of the cases had a nice ounce of weed in it.. :killingme

Te cops weren't interested, just for clarification.

[actungbaby]

Pretty much automated I thought even my bbs u chould have software reboot it .can't see why can't do that in server got ups too.so say if ulitmate global warming fix.network be fine .

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[actungbaby]

Just get he DVD recorder old one of tm 40 bucks .hook up with rca,s press play on vhs press record on Avi in channel .make sure ask about DVD alot crap out on panasonics .bit shit to swap out easier to buy another.

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[pritch]

From The Circuit of the Americas

[steveyb]

Just get he DVD recorder old one of tm 40 bucks .hook up with rca,s press play on vhs press record on Avi in channel .make sure ask about DVD alot crap out on panasonics .bit shit to swap out easier to buy another.

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Can you actually speak/write/read English?

[Autech]

Can you actually speak/write/read English?Can you eat a dick?

I made sense of it fine. Leave the man alone

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[F5 Dave]

Nah I'm with Steve, the chap should at least proof read his shit, and Steve isn't the first, or the 50th person to point it out. It's just rude to not at least try make sentences . I proof read and re edit every post till it reads at least ok.

[steveyb]

Can you eat a dick?

I made sense of it fine. Leave the man alone

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If you were adventurous enough you might enjoy it.

It was gibberish, admit it.

Mildly entertaining perhaps.

[onearmedbandit]

Can you actually speak/write/read English?


Nah I'm with Steve, the chap should at least proof read his shit, and Steve isn't the first, or the 50th person to point it out. It's just rude to not at least try make sentences . I proof read and re edit every post till it reads at least ok.

Welcome to 2011 guys. He's always posted like this, I don't think bringing it to his attention now is going to change anything.

[F5 Dave]

And now I see I misplaced that full stop with an extra space and can't change it in the quote. Embarrassing :o

[iYRe]

You'd never hear Rossi talking like this.. #backontopic

[Autech]

If you were adventurous enough you might enjoy it.

It was gibberish, admit it.

Mildly entertaining perhaps.Was more thinking of all the times I have posted shit whilst pissed up lol.

It wasn't full potato and I'd rather misplaced punctuation than none at all myself its really bad when people don't put full stops and commas into their sentences so you can't make sense of it very easily

XD



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[pritch]

Might I make a suggestion without intending to offend anyone? Some people just don't give a shit - and it shows. Others may have a problem we don't know about. The former I will occasionally criticise, the latter not so much.

Sometimes ABs posts require an effort but, unlike some others, they can be rewarding.

OK, so I almost forgot my original intention.:innocent:

[Autech]

Might I make a suggestion without intending to offend anyone? Some people just don't give a shit - and it shows. Others may have a problem we don't know about. The former I will occasionally criticise, the latter not so much.

Sometimes ABs posts require an effort but, unlike some others, they can be rewarding.

OK, so I almost forgot my original intention.:innocent:Egggzacary. Hence my comment.

Feel free to rip the shit out of my gramma etc though, I should know better :D

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[Autech]

You'd never hear Rossi talking like this.. #backontopicIf only our topic was even happening :( :( :(

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[Reckless]

You can tell there is no racing on!!
You guys Grammer bitching like a bunch of girls over the last glass of wine (or toilet Paper on the shelf).
Crack me up LMAO.................... :bleh::laugh::Police:


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[steveyb]

I was going for this, really.
Tongue in cheek.
We all have our own crosses to bear, grammar bitch or otherwise, LOL.

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[pritch]

SKY have just advised me that I can have three months free access to the movie channel to compensate for the lack of sports programmes from next Wednesday. I must check out their movie offerings. I hope they aren't all comic book superhero extravaganzas.

Slingshot advised me yesterday that they had changed my plan to unlimited at no charge.

I must check out the movie offerings. Here's hoping they aren't all comic book superhero extravaganzas.

Still, I'd rather be watching GPs.

[SaferRides]

All feature length docos on the MotogGP website are now free to watch.

Be nice if they made some of the previous seasons available also.

[roogazza]

SKY have just advised me that I can have three months free access to the movie channel to compensate for the lack of sports programmes from next Wednesday. I must check out their movie offerings. .

Sky must be worried ,yesterday they offered me 5 free, on demand movies per month....

We'll just have to wait till 2021 unless there is a major change ?

[pritch]

Sky must be worried ,

They would have good cause. Many, including me, have it primarily for the sport, but I've been watching a lot of Netflix lately.

Afterthought: In case anyone hasn't noticed already, there's a lot of free movies on YouTube these days.

[mulletman]

SKY have just advised me that I can have three months free access to the movie channel to compensate for the lack of sports programmes from next Wednesday. I must check out their movie offerings. I hope they aren't all comic book superhero extravaganzas.

Slingshot advised me yesterday that they had changed my plan to unlimited at no charge.

I must check out the movie offerings. Here's hoping they aren't all comic book superhero extravaganzas.

Still, I'd rather be watching GPs.

One of my workmates asked for the Arts channel instead and got it.

[SaferRides]

Probably because we just had Sky Starter and Sport we will get Soho and Entertainment for 3 months.

I'm inclined to cancel Sky completely for the next few months and use some of the money for say Netflix.

[pritch]

Probably because we just had Sky Starter and Sport we will get Soho and Entertainment for 3 months.

I'm inclined to cancel Sky completely for the next few months and use some of the money for say Netflix.

Netflix can be frustrating at first. There's a standing joke that having a spare hour you decide to watch Netflix, but you spend the whole hour trying to find something to watch. Been there, done that, but have it sorted now though.

The basic service is $11.99 per month so that should be cheaper than SKY?

[F5 Dave]

$US?

Seems to cost us $17 from memory on statement. Wife arranged it so not sure how it werks.

[pritch]

$US?

Seems to cost us $17 from memory on statement. Wife arranged it so not sure how it werks.



$NZ. There's three levels I think. Level 1, basic, is $11.99.

IIRC level 2 permits you to use more than one device, you and the missus can watch different programmes simultaneously, and it's a bit dearer.

Level three adds HDTV and another dollar or three.

Or something...

[F5 Dave]

Ahh should investigate that. Kids should be asleep before we turn on the other telly. Probably wasted money.

[SaferRides]

Everything on the MotogGP website is free to view until racing starts again.

I'm not sure what they are doing for current Video Pass subscribers as I didn't renew mine at the end of last season

[mulletman]

Everything on the MotogGP website is free to view until racing starts again.

I'm not sure what they are doing for current Video Pass subscribers as I didn't renew mine at the end of last season

Nothing different...everything 'free'

[george formby]

Nothing different...everything 'free'

Well, fuckety fuck fuck. I hope that applies to my subscription next season, too.

[actungbaby]

They would have good cause. Many, including me, have it primarily for the sport, but I've been watching a lot of Netflix lately.

Afterthought: In case anyone hasn't noticed already, there's a lot of free movies on YouTube these days.I only get sky for MotoGP .
Though do love the murder channel,so be nice haha

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[SaferRides]

I now have Sky Entertainment and Soho. Certainly not worth $55 a month with no sport on, which I suspect will be the situation for some months.

I have a Chromecast on the big TV for Spark Sport which seems to work well, so will see how that goes for normal TV watching. Plus there is so much on YouTube now.

[iYRe]

I only get sky for MotoGP .
Though do love the murder channel,so be nice haha

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plenty of murder on netflix.. forensic files is 480 episodes, and Ive watched the lot

[actungbaby]

plenty of murder on netflix.. forensic files is 480 episodes, and Ive watched the lotHi buddy yes I did see some of those ,on there very cool .I just find them really interesting.they got one guy .when stoped cig on the ground .
The dna esp the family dna profile.
I check that out tonight.
Thanks been watching new pichard trek series .

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[iYRe]

Picard is good, "The Expanse" is also epic...

Another good one is called "The investigator" - the guy who broke the story of the pedophiles in the BBC investigating some missing persons/murders.

[James Deuce]

Picard is the worst written load of bollocks I've seen in a long time. None of it makes any sense and everything that has happened could have gone in 1.5 episodes. Total waste of a potentially good cast and trades on nostalgia instead of delivering anything new. All it has going for it is shininess.

[sugilite]

Picard is the worst written load of bollocks I've seen in a long time. None of it makes any sense and everything that has happened could have gone in 1.5 episodes. Total waste of a potentially good cast and trades on nostalgia instead of delivering anything new. All it has going for it is shininess.
I thought the pace finally picked up in the last three episodes, the earlier ones were a snooze-fest for sure.

[F5 Dave]

Picard? I'm assuming that is part of the new star trek they did after Kirk and co retired?

But night before, -Eve of lockdown, I discovered the Pilot on Nerdflix (or was it ondemand?) A pilot is a mini movie they used to do before making a TV series. Well I never saw the 1968 pilot of star trek. It was pretty cool. No one survived the cut to TV except Leonard Nimoy. A different world.

I like how he left the lass as a captive when it turned out she was ugly. Fuk sake.

[James Deuce]

Picard? I'm assuming that is part of the new star trek they did after Kirk and co retired?

But night before, -Eve of lockdown, I discovered the Pilot on Nerdflix (or was it ondemand?) A pilot is a mini movie they used to do before making a TV series. Well I never saw the 1968 pilot of star trek. It was pretty cool. No one survived the cut to TV except Leonard Nimoy. A different world.

I like how he left the lass as a captive when it turned out she was ugly. Fuk sake.

Don't worry. He goes back. Twice as ugly.

[mulletman]

Virtual MotoGp what a load of shit that was :puke: