MotoGP 2025

[iYRe]

who what??
Alex was 10th Not that it really matters.Alex has to out score MM by 7 tomorrow

He didnt.. hehe
Was a tough race for MM

[jato]

Major blonde moment for Martin with that line/braking point... poor Bez getting cleaned out too. i guess we wont see much of Martin now for the rest of the year. i was thinking he might of done well at phillip island on the aprillia but we'll never know now. hopefully we have a good race later today

[sugilite]

Marc is fastest in morning warm up - copied Bagnia's settings over night? :laugh: (I know peccos got the 24 forks etc)

Really good to see Bez was 3rd fastest in warm up. Looks like he did not get too beaten up by Martins takeout yesterday.

Two Hondas in the top 10 for warm up. I wonder if MM after following Mir for so long in Saturdays sprint was thinking "This Honda has improved a lot, wonder how much Honda would fork out to have me back?" :sherlock:

[BMWST?]

Marc is fastest in morning warm up - copied Bagnia's settings over night? :laugh: (I know peccos got the 24 forks etc)

Really good to see Bez was 3rd fastest in warm up. Looks like he did not get too beaten up by Martins takeout yesterday.

Two Hondas in the top 10 for warm up. I wonder if MM after following Mir for so long in Saturdays sprint was thinking "This Honda has improved a lot, wonder how much Honda would fork out to have me back?" :sherlock:

Dunno if marc was looking after his tyre but several times Mir just dropped him accelerating out of the corners,although i think marc was off line because of his prvious attack. Gonna be interesting to see if Pecco can keep up that pace. I am pretty sure we will have a new champion tonight

[iYRe]

MM: "I am at peace".

He was catching Pecco once he had clear air..

They are calling him the GOAT.

[Reckless]

MM: "I am at peace".

He was catching Pecco once he had clear air..

They are calling him the GOAT.

He has achieved his goal after 6 years he should be at peace :) .

Now Pecco is on fire and MM at peace and well deserved he didn't just win he decimated the opposition this season : )

Be an interesting remaining few races to see of his fire gets relite next time he puts his helmet on.

For me greatest of our time but another championship would unarguably earn him the GOAT status no one could deny him - even Rossi fans. :first:

[iYRe]

He has achieved his goal after 6 years he should be at peace :) .

Now Pecco is on fire and MM at peace and well deserved he didn't just win he decimated the opposition this season : )

Be an interesting remaining few races to see of his fire gets relite next time he puts his helmet on.

For me greatest of our time but another championship would unarguably earn him the GOAT status no one could deny him - even Rossi fans. :first:

Who knows whether Pecco will be as fast in the next race, lol.

MM is now both the youngest and oldest champion, and has the longest career, but I think the "more than a number" thing was quite correct, its not just about how many/much he has won, but how and what he has gone through to get here - I think that is what makes him the best. Alex said "people have only seen 10% of his comeback".

Apparently MM had trouble hitting his marks on the last lap because he was crying so much..


“Six years ago, I didn't know what suffering was. I just tasted the glory, all my career, since 2010.

“It's true that I had some injuries, but it was always like 3 months, 4 months recovery and win again.


“So when you have four years, with four different surgeries on the arm. Also, I broke other bones during that time, and had double vision twice.


“It was super difficult.


“We are humans. I have a talent, and other people will have another talent, but we are humans and just trying to do our best.”

He still wants to win... and he can still make that bike do things others cant... although I would have to say Mir had that honda doing some crazy stuff - looked like he was riding on ice.

[Reckless]

He still wants to win... and he can still make that bike do things others cant... although I would have to say Mir had that honda doing some crazy stuff - looked like he was riding on ice.

MM back to Honda for his final years???

[iYRe]

MM back to Honda for his final years???

maybe aprilia so he can say he has won a championship on 3 different manufacturers?

[diesel pig]

maybe aprilia so he can say he has won a championship on 3 different manufacturers?

5 years ago, I would of have said "Madness" But now I would not rule out anything.

[BMWST?]

MM back to Honda for his final years???

Maybe ,but not for a couple of years I reckon. I think he will try to get another championship or two,unti he gets to the point that he thinks its too risky. If the Honda is really competitive maybe earlier

[Reckless]

yeh the take out for after this weekend is

1. Will MM relax a bit and help Alex to second.
2. Will Bags keep this up at different tracks maybe he looked so fast because MM was ridng for the championship.
3. Will Honda do as well at different tracks

Still a good season to come :)

[F5 Dave]

Great to see Bags competitive. Hopefully they really have found something and it translates.

Ok thought experiment. Imagine if Marc hadn't come back after injury.
Or Mrs M had a headache that night. Well Dovi would be a triple world champion for one.
Ok let's just make it recently.

Martin and Bags both get factory seats. Both may struggle and Alex streaks away while big questions are pointed at the new bike. But Alex recently falls off pace. Others like Bez could challenge.

It would have been as different championship.

Good to see the other teams make progress. Yamaha exception. B

[F5 Dave]

2nd thought: "Ducati have taken a ‘vow of silence’ on their changes to Bagnaia’s GP25. As such, outsiders simply ‘don’t know’ what inspired the improvement."

Ok, so we'll see if the 'fix' works at other tracks.

And does the secret get given to Digi? Maybe his results will improve?

Marc as well?

[BMWST?]

2nd thought: "Ducati have taken a ‘vow of silence’ on their changes to Bagnaia’s GP25. As such, outsiders simply ‘don’t know’ what inspired the improvement."

Ok, so we'll see if the 'fix' works at other tracks.

And does the secret get given to Digi? Maybe his results will improve?

Marc as well?

Apparently Marc is already using some of the parts. The parts have been tried before by Bagnaia but not tested as thoroughly. Tested more thouroughly at Misano where Stoner verified what the Ducati analyst had already said about the movemnt of the bike that Bagnaia was not happy about.
Will Marcs help for Alex take the same form of his "help for Lorenzo" at Sepang. I think Ducati are doing what they always do.They will never admit that the new bike is inferior to the old bike

[iYRe]

If you havent seen it there is a wee doco from MotoGp on marc:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQl-v-XC7-Q

[SaferRides]

Interesting info on Motomatters. The bike Bagnaia rode at the Misano test did not have a scrutineering sticker. David Emmett's conclusion was that it had been removed because Ducati did not want anyone to know when it had last been raced.

But, of course, it may be a chassis that has never been raced... Apparently it is not possible to tell a GP25 chassis from a GP24 by appearance.

And Motegi is a track where the 355 mm discs are used. Maybe that helped as well?

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[iYRe]

Interesting info on Motomatters. The bike Bagnaia rode at the Misano test did not have a scrutineering sticker. David Emmett's conclusion was that it had been removed because Ducati did not want anyone to know when it had last been raced.

But, of course, it may be a chassis that has never been raced... Apparently it is not possible to tell a GP25 chassis from a GP24 by appearance.

And Motegi is a track where the 355 mm discs are used. Maybe that helped as well?

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Apparently he tested all the parts that were put on.. but not "extensively" - I suspect they might not have got the right combo on at the right time, he probably tested things piecemeal until they got desperate and someone said "put it all on" - Digia wants it.. and imagine if it is that much better and Marc uses it.. Apparently also MM was very stiff and not riding "well" (struggling is the word he used), so I dont know we can read too much into that last race.. he was just trying to beat Alex, not beat Pecco

[BMWST?]

Apparently he tested all the parts that were put on.. but not "extensively" - I suspect they might not have got the right combo on at the right time, he probably tested things piecemeal until they got desperate and someone said "put it all on" - Digia wants it.. and imagine if it is that much better and Marc uses it.. Apparently also MM was very stiff and not riding "well" (struggling is the word he used), so I dont know we can read too much into that last race.. he was just trying to beat Alex, not beat Pecco

Marc already has some of the parts. I think the turning point may have been when Casey Stoner said the same things as the Ducati video analyst guy. I too have seen peccos bike make some unusual shapes this season.

[iYRe]

Marc already has some of the parts. I think the turning point may have been when Casey Stoner said the same things as the Ducati video analyst guy. I too have seen peccos bike make some unusual shapes this season.

No doubt we'll find out soon enough.. this next race should be interesting

[SaferRides]

I watched the press conference at Motegi, which I don't normally bother with. It was clearly so emotional for all of them, and a really cool podium.

Apart from their talent, they all have something that pushes them to keep going in adversity. I don't know if Mir has ever received credit for his world championship, but it would be great if he's Honda's next world champion

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[SaferRides]

Very good timing... I might wait for the paperback though!
https://matoxley.bigcartel.com/product/marc-m%C3%A1rquez-the-biography-large-format-hardback

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[iYRe]

In case anyone is still thinking MM will go back to Honda, he has officially said he is "red all the way" now.

[sugilite]

There is a lot of speculation surrounding just what bike Bagnia was riding - consensus is taking shape that it was one of Morbidelis gp24s with a gp25 motor fitted - which is legal. God knows why they did not try that like after round 2 or 3 - Gigi's way or the highway? the mystery continues.

[Reckless]

I read an article this morning that said Ducati weren't listening to Bagnia about his complaints about the Duacti shaking, actually blaming him.
The engineers wern't excepting changes at all, tellin Bags it was him, until Casey observed it and backed him up, forcing the engineers to except it and finally make changes to the bike.

There is a lot of media shit being put forward but in the latest interview pre race Bagnaia is keeping his mouth fully shut on the matter, so maybe the above is true.
He has been really pleased and publically complimentary about Casey's help.

There has been widesperead coverage about Redbull in F1 not listening to driver feedback and fucking the car up, and now also Moto gp where the rider is much more integral to the machine.
WTF is this engineer mentallity?? We have it also in the building trade supposedly "figures dont lie" and feeling doesnt matter, how mnany beams I have had to specify where the builder has come back and said that big "FFS really" :brick:


Interesting to see if Bags is up to battling MM in the next few races.

[iYRe]

Honda did it too remember? "We know best, you just ride it".

[BMWST?]

I read an article this morning that said Ducati weren't listening to Bagnia about his complaints about the Duacti shaking, actually blaming him.
The engineers wern't excepting changes at all, tellin Bags it was him, until Casey observed it and backed him up, forcing the engineers to except it and finally make changes to the bike.

There is a lot of media shit being put forward but in the latest interview pre race Bagnaia is keeping his mouth fully shut on the matter, so maybe the above is true.
He has been really pleased and publically complimentary about Casey's help.

There has been widesperead coverage about Redbull in F1 not listening to driver feedback and fucking the car up, and now also Moto gp where the rider is much more integral to the machine.
WTF is this engineer mentallity?? We have it also in the building trade supposedly "figures dont lie" and feeling doesnt matter, how mnany beams I have had to specify where the builder has come back and said that big "FFS really" :brick:


Interesting to see if Bags is up to battling MM in the next few races.
I guess its corporate ego /company policy not to admit its got the bike wrong. As long as MM was winning they could say there is nothing wrong. Apparently there was a big meeting after Misano where perhaps Bagnaia put his foot down and with backup from Stoner and The video guy Ducati were somewhat forced to change something

[SaferRides]

You do wonder, especially when Marc was interviewed earlier in the season and said he was riding a GP24. There have been upgrades during the year, but I'll bet no one was going to argue with Marc if he said no.

Is Digia going to get the same bike as Pecco now, as he's struggled badly at some tracks?

Ducati has some work to do to repair the relationship with Pecco. He is clearly very pissed off.

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[iYRe]

You do wonder, especially when Marc was interviewed earlier in the season and said he was riding a GP24. There have been upgrades during the year, but I'll bet no one was going to argue with Marc if he said no.

Is Digia going to get the same bike as Pecco now, as he's struggled badly at some tracks?

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Apparently he has asked, or is wondering if he will, from stuff I read.

[iYRe]

You do wonder, especially when Marc was interviewed earlier in the season and said he was riding a GP24. There have been upgrades during the year, but I'll bet no one was going to argue with Marc if he said no.

Is Digia going to get the same bike as Pecco now, as he's struggled badly at some tracks?

Ducati has some work to do to repair the relationship with Pecco. He is clearly very pissed off.

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Been confirmed that Pecco tested Morbidelli's GP24 at Misano

[F5 Dave]

Geez. All they had to say was:
"
Huh. Even we couldn't improve on perfection. Give a shrug . Laugh . Slap some backs.
"
That was all it would take. No harm no foul and no disgrace.

I should write thier releases.

[F5 Dave]

If you havent seen it there is a wee doco from MotoGp on marc:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQl-v-XC7-Q
Just finished watching thanks for posting. I guess they most striking thing is how much better she looks with her hair down.
And we are lucky so many GP guys learn to speak our funny language.

[iYRe]

Just finished watching thanks for posting. I guess they most striking thing is how much better she looks with her hair down.
And we are lucky so many GP guys learn to speak our funny language.

lol, I think she looks pretty good all the time. :)

[SaferRides]

Been confirmed that Pecco tested Morbidelli's GP24 at MisanoThat could be why they removed the scrutineering sticker.

May Oxley thinks they have reverted to the GP24 ride height device.

The whole episode has been a perfect example of why you'd never want Marc as your teammate!

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[iYRe]

That could be why they removed the scrutineering sticker.

May Oxley thinks they have reverted to the GP24 ride height device.

The whole episode has been a perfect example of why you'd never want Marc as your teammate!

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I saw on crash this morning; forks, swingarm and ride height from the 24

[F5 Dave]

He's like 17th on Friday. Mind you he has good company with two more GP25s (all) outside top 10.
But qualifying may change everything.

[iYRe]

He's like 17th on Friday. Mind you he has good company with two more GP25s (all) outside top 10.
But qualifying may change everything.

Fabio Q said its to do with the hard heat treated rear carcass they're using.. Duc's not dealing with it very well

[BMWST?]

very weird is my take out. Rins qualified 4th.He hs been nowhere. Zarco and Bastianini Nowhere in Qualifying. Bagnaia nealy 12 seconds behind Marini who qualified 6th?????

[sugilite]

For me, the most interesting sprint to watch this year. Watching Bez storm through the field and pass Aldeguer with just a handful of corners away from the finish line - Awesome!

Word is the Ducatis were not handling the rear tyre used for this race meeting very well. Apparently Aldeguer did not get that memo!

I suspect the Aprillia has a higher ceiling than what we have seen thus far. A real shame Martin Has been out injured so we don't get to see just how good that bike is.

[jato]

same thoughts here... Bez has a real tidy/determined style and is good under pressure too

[iYRe]

same thoughts here... Bez has a real tidy/determined style and is good under pressure too

Unfortunately it looks like Bez overcooked it and broke MM shoulder.

[jato]

seems i can't judge a rider that well... adding that some of the shots would indicate there wasn't an obvious boof-head move done, more of incompatible lines. a real pity though

[iYRe]

seems i can't judge a rider that well... adding that some of the shots would indicate there wasn't an obvious boof-head move done, more of incompatible lines. a real pity though


Yeah, seems like a right collar bone I just heard. Acosta was amazing, and FA - that was pretty comprehensive.

[BMWST?]

I just hope that whatever the shoulder injury is it isnt compounded by the shoulder injury he had in the past.Was that the right shoulder too? Heres hoping its a simple collar bone break.
Looked like Bez was gonna try a move then he pulled out of it but was too late
#54 ws impressive.After the flag said that even Bez may not have been able to catch him.
In other news Alex is now 88 points ahed of Bagnaia,and only 148 now left. Acosta moves into 5th ahead of Morbidelli and also gains on Bez but its still a 39 point gap. 5th 6th and 7th (Acosta ,Morbidelli and Di Giannantonio) are all quite close,215,207,191

[Reckless]

Couple of TNT sport vids on MM.
Slomo analysis of the accident

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1364259248633064

and injury https://www.facebook.com/reel/1364259248633064

I guess getting away with similar with Rins in the sprint race doesn't mean he deserved this.
Champion one week out the next, I hope to heck its not a bad injury.

I for one hope he comes back and beats this!

[BMWST?]

Couple of TNT sport vids on MM.
Slomo analysis of the accident

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1364259248633064

and injury https://www.facebook.com/reel/1364259248633064

I guess getting away with similar with Rins in the sprint race doesn't mean he deserved this.
Champion one week out the next, I hope to heck its not a bad injury.

I for one hope he comes back and beats this!
you posted the same reel twice. I hope its not serious too.

[SaferRides]

seems i can't judge a rider that well... adding that some of the shots would indicate there wasn't an obvious boof-head move done, more of incompatible lines. a real pity thoughNeil Hodgson has a post on Instagram showing what happened. But important to remember it happened in real time at high speed.

Marc would have been fine if the gravel had been at the same level as the track. I'm surprised this wasn't noticed and fixed before the weekend.

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[SaferRides]

Marc isn't having surgery, but will miss the next 2 races.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the box, total crisis. This is from an Italian website:

https://m.gpone.com/en/2025/10/04/motogp/bagnaia-at-loggerheads-with-ducati-unacceptable-someone-give-me-an-explanation?related=1

Surely this has to end soon.

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[iYRe]

From Oxley's latest column:


Finally, as the clock ticked down to Sunday’s race start, I got the answers I’d come looking for.


The 2025 crankcases are the same as the previous year’s, the engine mounts are the same and the engine inertia is the same. The only differences from the 2024 engine are detail internal upgrades to improve performance and durability, none of which effect machine dynamics.


So what was Bagnaia’s curse?


It’s the 2025 ride-height device, basically a hydraulic computer of mind-boggling complexity that adjusts the attitude of the motorcycle (and sometimes the attitude of the rider) and can have a fundamental effect on machine behaviour.


Dall’Igna introduced MotoGP’s game-changing ride-height devices a few years ago, using the knowhow of former Mercedes F1 chief scientist Robin Tuluie.


The idea of a ride-height device is to drop the bike’s rear end to lower overall centre of mass, which reduces wheelies, thereby allowing riders to use more throttle.


The GP25’s rear device drops the rear lower as riders accelerate, but this isn’t Bagnaia’s problem.


Ride-height devices are also useful during braking, because they can keep the rear tyre on the road, allowing riders to use the rear tyre as well as the front to shorten braking distances. This is where Bagnaia has the problem, because the device changes overall bike balance at a critical moment, so he can no longer hear the front tyre as he attacks corners,


That’s why Ducati rolled out a modified GP25, with 2024 ride-height device, during the Misano tests. Immediately Bagnaia was back to his 2024 best, so when he got to Motegi he was fast and smooth, instead of slow and snappy.


If the story had ended there, with the Italian’s awesome double Motegi victory, everything would make sense.


So what happened at Mandalika?


The stiffer heat-resistant tyre (also used at Buriram) changes everything, which is why it was such an upside-down and entertaining weekend and why the factory Ducatis struggled.


Perhaps the fact that Bagnaia is the only rider that prefers Öhlins’ shorter forks – his technique doesn’t suit the longer-stroke version – doesn’t help.


Maybe both these factors combined to rob him of his Motegi magic? Maybe, but crashing out is one thing, crashing out of last place is something altogether different, so they surely can’t explain the worst performance of his career.

[Reckless]

Very Interesting cheers for that :niceone:

[SaferRides]

Very interesting article, not least because Ducati wanted to talk to Mat.

Regarding the tyres, Pecco won at Mandalika in 2023 and was 3rd last year. Also, according to Motomatters, the soft tyre does not have the heat resistant construction, so qualifying should have been OK, which it wasn't.

The medium might have been a factor, but unlikely to be why he was dead last. No doubt, there will be another instalment at PI.

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[Reckless]

It is a bit of a nightmare watching Pecco struggle as he has always come across as the nicest guy in the paddock.

I am wondering if he is a 10/10 rider but cant assess the bike like MM can.
Not sure if anyone on the grid can either tell the engineers what he needs or rides around an issue like MM.
Pecco's bike seems unmanageable, wins a meeting, then last, then a crash, bloody heck.

It is hard to watch the Pecco saga, if Ducati dump him it will be a bad look on the whole situation.

[BMWST?]

It is a bit of a nightmare watching Pecco struggle as he has always come across as the nicest guy in the paddock.

I am wondering if he is a 10/10 rider but cant assess the bike like MM can.
Not sure if anyone on the grid can either tell the engineers what he needs or rides around an issue like MM.
Pecco's bike seems unmanageable, wins a meeting, then last, then a crash, bloody heck.

It is hard to watch the Pecco saga, if Ducati dump him it will be a bad look on the whole situation.

I just cant understand it. But its real. At Mandalika his bike was shaking like it was in Austria.Yet in theory it was the same bike as Motegi. Does a rear tyre treatment do that? Similar tyre to Austria though. How can you go from absolutely dominant to last by a mile?
Ducati have to come clean on this bike type question even if its just to let Pecco actually know what he has got. I cant beleive they are being so stubborn about it.

[Reckless]

Rmember it was similar at Ktm with Jack Millers shake problem, it took a slomo on a vid to convince the engineers it was that bad and it was bloody terrible.
I Couldnt believe what I saw when I saw it. Maybe the vid guys need to zone in on Peccos shake to highlight the issue.

Bloody sad when you have joe bloggs the video man Assessing MotoGP bikes LMAO :brick:

[BMWST?]

Rmember it was similar at Ktm with Jack Millers shake problem, it took a slomo on a vid to convince the engineers it was that bad and it was bloody terrible.
I Couldnt believe what I saw when I saw it. Maybe the vid guys need to zone in on Peccos shake to highlight the issue.

Bloody sad when you have joe bloggs the video man Assessing MotoGP bikes LMAO :brick:

I think that the Ducati video man already has such videos

[F5 Dave]

I tell you it's like Lorenzo. His tank decals are not quite symmetrical.

[BMWST?]

I tell you it's like Lorenzo. His tank decals are not quite symmetrical.
hmmm that was about a season and a half wasnt it?

[SaferRides]

Ducati have to come clean on this bike type question even if its just to let Pecco actually know what he has got. I cant beleive they are being so stubborn about it.
The GP25 is effectively a GP24 with mods like a different rear lowering device.

If it was just Pecco, then you'd think it was something specific to his riding style. But Digia has problems too - some tracks he goes really well but others he's at the back of the field.

Is Ducati over reliant on their AI data analysis? You'd think if the bike shaking is obvious from the trackside that there would be something in the terabytes of data they collect.

They must be so pleased they signed Marc, otherwise the world champion this year would probably be an independent again.



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[F5 Dave]

They seem to really care, but do you think it makes a difference to brand pride equating to sales if a Ducati wins, what fan cares if they ride for what team? Sheesh.

[F5 Dave]

hmmm that was about a season and a half wasnt it?

But when they got it right, Bam he was there. They said it was tank shape. But we know. . . . ;)

[BMWST?]

They seem to really care, but do you think it makes a difference to brand pride equating to sales if a Ducati wins, what fan cares if they ride for what team? Sheesh.
I think ducati really do want their own team to win. But they do want a Ducati to win as a second choice

[SaferRides]

Apparently it was a major crash and those who saw it were amazed he was able to walk away, although he was out cold for a while. There are videos out there if you search - I did notice his bike doing major cartwheels in the background of Marc's crash, so I think I'll pass on seeing what happened to Bez.

[iYRe]

Apparently it was a major crash and those who saw it were amazed he was able to walk away, although he was out cold for a while. There are videos out there if you search - I did notice his bike doing major cartwheels in the background of Marc's crash, so I think I'll pass on seeing what happened to Bez.

From what I understand Bez will be back at least for Philip Island

[BMWST?]

From what I understand Bez will be back at least for Philip Island
its been quiet on what happened to Bez(injury wisse I mean). I havent seen anything

[iYRe]

This is what I found

“Marco is ok. We just got the news from Dr Charte that he was brought to the hospital for a scan and there’s no broken bones.

“He has a lot of pain, maybe the pain is also some of the two crashes: the one of Motegi and this one.

He's rear ended 3 people in a year... I didnt realise that.

[F5 Dave]

The aero makes it more likely. Looking at posted links it didn't scream over ambitious. It was looking like a sharp move till it all went wrong.

[SaferRides]

The aero makes it more likely. Looking at posted links it didn't scream over ambitious. It was looking like a sharp move till it all went wrong.It looked to me like he misjudged the move, possibly trying to make up the places he lost at the start. A real bummer for him and Marc because they were both likely to podium.

But it happens and Marc has done it often enough to know that!

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[BMWST?]

It looked to me like he misjudged the move, possibly trying to make up the places he lost at the start. A real bummer for him and Marc because they were both likely to podium.

But it happens and Marc has done it often enough to know that!

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Agreed ,he was so much faster than everyone through there.He misjudged it,by the time he realised he was already overlapping MM. He sits up but its too late

[iYRe]

Agreed ,he was so much faster than everyone through there.He misjudged it,by the time he realised he was already overlapping MM. He sits up but its too late

That was his fastest part of the track I think. MM said that he (MM) wasnt slow there at that moment - but I guess "not slow" is relative.

[iYRe]

Simon Patterson (the race motogp) on Pecco:


“If what I’ve been told over this weekend is right, then the only other option is that Pecco’s head’s falling off,” he added.

“And that they told him last weekend that he had everything he wanted in the world and it worked. And then he got here and for whatever reason, he stopped believing and it all fell apart again.


“Because I can’t think of any… that there is no other kind of solution that makes sense at this point. He’s not being deliberately sabotaged. So this is the most nonsense suggestion in the world. He’s not being deliberately sabotaged.


“He’s not riding a bike developed from Marc Marquez, because Marc Marquez didn’t have enough time on this bike and pre-season to develop it into anything. So it’s not working and what else can it be?”

[SaferRides]

My guess is he jumped on the bike expecting it to feel like it did at Motegi, and it didn't. I read somewhere that Pecco expected it to come right as the track cleaned up, didn't want any setup changes and that didn't work out.

He's probably so messed up now that he needs a good break and to ride something that isn't a MotoGP bike for a while. Maybe come to NZ for the summer? He'd probably have a great time on a Panigale on our tracks.[emoji1]

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[Reckless]

I think we also must quantify Pecco's with MM's performance as Marks was nowhere near where he usually is.
If Mark had been at the pointy end as usual he would not have been there for Bez to make an overachiever move on.

The Ducati was terrible for both riders it's just MM handled it a little better as only he can.

I don't think blaming Peccos head is an option for this round as he was riding the bike so hard, he fell, even tho he was last.
He was doing bugger all when the bike disappeared out from under him.

Fermin was the only Duc that looked 1/2 way good because he has still got a bit of Moto2 in him.

One thing I do know for sure, MM must be thanking the powers that be, the championship was tied up just before this round.

[BMWST?]

Its gonna be really interesting next weekend .Who will win it. Fermin again? Alex is due a good performance.Will Pecco find his head again? Will Bezzecchi be fit enough? Acosta,Mir,Marini???
Rins won in 22,Zarco in 23. Its kinda wide open

[F5 Dave]

Somkiat Chantra for the win bitches.

No one on 2nd or 3rd.

[SaferRides]

I think we also must quantify Pecco's with MM's performance as Marks was nowhere near where he usually is.
If Mark had been at the pointy end as usual he would not have been there for Bez to make an overachiever move on.

The Ducati was terrible for both riders it's just MM handled it a little better as only he can.

I don't think blaming Peccos head is an option for this round as he was riding the bike so hard, he fell, even tho he was last.
He was doing bugger all when the bike disappeared out from under him.

Fermin was the only Duc that looked 1/2 way good because he has still got a bit of Moto2 in him.

One thing I do know for sure, MM must be thanking the powers that be, the championship was tied up just before this round.Marc was 6th in the sprint after a long lap penalty. He would have probably been in the top 5 in the race without the crash. Pecco was nowhere.

But stay tuned, who knows what PI will be like. The Hondas may be in with a chance as it's all about cornering.

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[jato]

phillip island weather forecasts are not very consistent at the mo - some have 70% chance of rain on sunday ... Jack on the yamaha? Aldeguer if its dry?
meanwhile Avalon and co will be at their last round in the wcr which has been pretty exciting this year. free livestream on the official youtube channel

[BMWST?]

phillip island weather forecasts are not very consistent at the mo - some have 70% chance of rain on sunday ... Jack on the yamaha? Aldeguer if its dry?
meanwhile Avalon and co will be at their last round in the wcr which has been pretty exciting this year. free livestream on the official youtube channel
I am confident that Jack will try to lead at some point

[F5 Dave]

Bez if he's not too beat up. Aprilia is cornering bike and PI is a fast flowing track.
FQ might be a dark horse.
But heck the Hondas even have made a jump. Wouldn't have said that at the start of the season. . . That Alex Mickeyez guy might be sniffing with no big bro in the way.
But then Vinales will surprise us all with a blue moon ride.

[BMWST?]

Bez if he's not too beat up. Aprilia is cornering bike and PI is a fast flowing track.
FQ might be a dark horse.
But heck the Hondas even have made a jump. Wouldn't have said that at the start of the season. . . That Alex Mickeyez guy might be sniffing with no big bro in the way.
But then Vinales will surprise us all with a blue moon ride.
Vinales is out his shoulder cant cut it (ligament from his crash a little while ago)

[F5 Dave]

Well Bastinini ,why not. Or the rather more obvious ktm guy. That thing is fast.

Who's going to wear a seagull in from Bass on third to last lap?

[BMWST?]

Well Bastinini ,why not. Or the rather more obvious ktm guy. That thing is fast.

Who's going to wear a seagull in from Bass on third to last lap?
I think Acosta is far more likely than Bastianini but who knows .

[SaferRides]

Probably a Ducati, depends also on the weather. If it's a warm day then tyre management becomes critical.

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[Reckless]

If they bring that Heat treated tyre like last round anything could Happen.

Anyone know the tyre allocation??

[F5 Dave]

October is traditional time for Auss GP even when I used to go for 500s/250/125s.

It is rarely searing hot and often Melbourne (ish, but on a sticky outy bit) is much like Wellington this time of year.

They won't have special hot tyres.
It is not a stop and go track, you spend more time banked over so it is flowing and fast. This gives bonus points to tge other bikes and reduces the advantages Dooclatteries have.

That said they are still usually dominant so. . . .

Wonder if it is time to go back there next year? Still there's BermBuster this weekend and probablynext year , so,

[Reckless]

Cheers easier to post up than think LOL


Wonder if it is time to go back there next year? Still there's BermBuster this weekend and probablynext year , so,

Have good ride this weekend.
Unfortunately had to pull out of NZCMRR Spring classic @ Manfeild this weekend, cant even make local AMCC @ Hampton, I doubt I'll even ride the missus :girlfight:
We are packing to move house bugger it :brick:

PS Gonna support the club and take the Race bikes into the Auckland bike show for their stand tho.

[Reckless]

2026 grids done

356807

[iYRe]

Its quite likely MM wont appear until the Valencia test, fwiw. He might race at Valencia but most people seem to think it unlikely

[BMWST?]

Its quite likely MM wont appear until the Valencia test, fwiw. He might race at Valencia but most people seem to think it unlikely
Pddock pass Podcast reckons he will do some testing after the Valencian races(s)

[iYRe]

Pddock pass Podcast reckons he will do some testing after the Valencian races(s)
There's a test at Valencia after the GP... he'll likely do that even if he's slow - he'll want to give some feedback

[BMWST?]

There's a test at Valencia after the GP... he'll likely do that even if he's slow - he'll want to give some feedback
thats the one i tried to say

[iYRe]

thats the one i tried to say

I thought as much, but then I am a pedant.

This was interesting - an article on F1's possible influence on motoGP:
https://robbreport.com/motors/motorcycles/motogp-biggest-sport-in-the-world-motorcycle-racing-1237182821/

Classic Line
After all, MotoGP is already your favorite Formula 1 driver’s favorite sport (as MotoGP people like to say), which is a way of emphasizing that it’s a competition for true motorsports enthusiasts.

[pritch]

I read an article this morning that said Ducati weren't listening to Bagnia about his complaints about the Duacti shaking, actually blaming him.


Interesting. Shades of when they sent Milandri to a psychologist because he criticised the bike. I thought GiGi had sorted those problems when he told the engineers that the guys in the team were driving the effort and any engineer who could not take direction from team members should look for another job.

Maybe the engineers have reinserted head up arse?

[BMWST?]

Interesting. Shades of when they sent Milandri to a psychologist because he criticised the bike. I thought GiGi had sorted those problems when he told the engineers that the guys in the team were driving the effort and any engineer who could not take direction from team members should look for another job.

Maybe the engineers have reinserted head up arse?
thats insane.Praps they took notice when they actually saw it? Was that Austria that the onboard showed it?

[BMWST?]

I thought as much, but then I am a pedant.

This was interesting - an article on F1's possible influence on motoGP:
https://robbreport.com/motors/motorcycles/motogp-biggest-sport-in-the-world-motorcycle-racing-1237182821/

Classic Line
hope they dont do the F1 thing and get rid of the grid girls (again)

[iYRe]

hope they dont do the F1 thing and get rid of the grid girls (again)

They could just use their own wives/girlfriends :P

[SaferRides]

They could just use their own wives/girlfriends :P[emoji106] Well, some could!

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[iYRe]

[emoji106] Well, some could!

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The Marquez's Mrs (both) for a start lol

[SaferRides]

The Motomatters pre-race report mentioned that the race could be moved to another track in Oz. Surely not, it would be like moving from Mugello.

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[iYRe]

So Miller is topping FP-1 so far, but AM, Pedro, Fermin and Fabio are close behind. Might be an epic race, it would be fantastic if jack wins... we'll claim that as a kiwi Moto GP win heh

[BMWST?]

And Pecco is close too

LIQUI MOLY AUSTRALIAN MOTORCYCLE GRAND PRIX sFREE PRACTICE NR. 1 Phillip IslandCLASSIFICATION4448 m.
lap total laps top sped
1 43 Jack MILLER AUS Prima Pramac Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 1'28.281 19 19 347.
2 73 Alex MARQUEZ SPA BK8 Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 1'28.317 12 20 0.036 0.036 345.0
3 37 Pedro ACOSTA SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1'28.416 14 19 0.135 0.099 349.5
4 54 Fermin ALDEGUER SPA BK8 Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI 1'28.466 18 18 0.185 0.050 339.6
5 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP Team YAMAHA 1'28.520 22 22 0.239 0.054 339.6
6 72 Marco BEZZECCHI ITA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 1'28.532 20 22 0.251 0.012 342.9
7 63 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI 1'28.556 15 16 0.275 0.024 341.8
8 5 Johann ZARCO FRA CASTROL Honda LCR HONDA 1'28.618 13 19 0.337 0.062 346.1
9 49 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO ITA Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 1'28.631 15 16 0.350 0.013 346.1
10 33 Brad BINDER RSA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 1'28.654 11 23 0.373 0.023 347.3
11 25 Raul FERNANDEZ SPA Trackhouse MotoGP Team APRILIA 1'28.760 18 20 0.479 0.106 344.0
12 36 Joan MIR SPA Honda HRC Castrol HONDA 1'28.877 13 18 0.596 0.117 348.4
13 10 Luca MARINI ITA Honda HRC Castrol HONDA 1'28.976 21 21 0.695 0.099 348.4
14 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team DUCATI 1'28.986 18 20 0.705 0.010 345.0
15 23 Enea BASTIANINI ITA Red Bull KTM Tech3 KTM 1'29.019 19 19 0.738 0.033 349.5
16 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Tech3 KTM 1'29.038 19 20 0.757 0.019 349.5
17 42 Alex RINS SPA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP Team YAMAHA 1'29.239
18 20 0.958 0.201 344.018 88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR Prima Pramac Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA 1'29.329 18 21 1.048 0.090 342.9
19 32 Lorenzo SAVADORI ITA Aprilia Racing APRILIA 1'29.791 18 20 1.510 0.462 340.7
20 35 Somkiat CHANTRA THA IDEMITSU Honda LCR HONDA 1'30.309 21 23 2.028 0.518 336.5
21 51 Michele PIRRO ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI 1'30.645 19 21 2.364 0.336 334.4
22 79 Ai OGURA JPN Trackhouse MotoGP Team APRILIA 1'30.755 18 20 2.474 0.110 335.4
Fastest Lap: Lap: 19 Jack MILLER 1'28.281 181.3 Km/h
Best Race Lap:All-Time Lap Record:Marc MARQUEZ 1'27.765 182.4 Km/h2023 Jorge MARTIN 1'27.246 183.5 Km/h

[iYRe]

Apparently ole Bags is back in the pits again..

[sugilite]

Bags made it through with the 9th fastest time - but Bez is on another planet. He could win with that pace despite the double long lap penalty!

[iYRe]

the latest... Bezz on top

2025 Australian MotoGP, Phillip Island - Practice ResultsPos Rider Nat Team
1 Marco Bezzecchi ITA Aprilia Factory (RS-GP25)
2 Raul Fernandez SPA Trackhouse Aprilia (RS-GP25)
3 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA Pertamina VR46 Ducati (GP25)
4 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)
5 Alex Marquez SPA BK8 Gresini Ducati (GP24)
6 Alex Rins SPA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)
7 Luca Marini ITA Honda HRC Castrol (RC213V)
8 Pol Espargaro SPA Red Bull KTM (RC16)
9 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP25)
10 Pedro Acosta SPA Red Bull KTM (RC16)
11 Fermin Aldeguer SPA BK8 Gresini Ducati (GP24)
12 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16)
13 Jack Miller AUS Pramac Yamaha (YZR-M1)
14 Joan Mir SPA Honda HRC Castrol (RC213V)
15 Johann Zarco FRA Castrol Honda LCR (RC213V)
16 Miguel Oliveira POR Pramac Yamaha (YZR-M1)
17 Franco Morbidelli ITA Pertamina VR46 Ducati (GP24)
18 Ai Ogura JPN Trackhouse Aprilia (RS-GP25)
19 Lorenzo Savadori ITA Aprilia Factory (RS-GP25)
20 Enea Bastianini ITA Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)
21 Michele Pirro ITA Ducati (GP25)
22 Somkiat Chantra THA Idemitsu Honda LCR (RC213V)

[BMWST?]

Bags made it through with the 9th fastest time - but Bez is on another planet. He could win with that pace despite the double long lap penalty!
Hmm
Apparently he loses 5 seconds per long lap. Also he is quite sore.
That may count aginst him in the Race but he could def win the print.

[iYRe]

Hmm
Apparently he loses 5 seconds per long lap. Also he is quite sore.
That may count aginst him in the Race but he could def win the print.

Also, Bez broke MM lap record..

[BMWST?]

Also, Bez broke MM lap record..
yes first ever in the 26s

[SaferRides]

High winds are forecast for Sunday morning, easing in the afternoon. So the race start may be postponed, possibly as late as 5 PM.

Pecco has one bike he can ride, on the other he has no feel, like Mandalika. They sre meant to be identical.

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[iYRe]

High winds are forecast for Sunday morning, easing in the afternoon. So the race start may be postponed, possibly as late as 5 PM.

Pecco has one bike he can ride, on the other he has no feel, like Mandalika. They sre meant to be identical.

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I dont think pecco's brain is the same - it changes when he gets on another bike

[BMWST?]

The Sunday schedule has been pushed back 1 hour to try to avaoid the wind. The GP will be a t 5pm our time not 4 pm
Two Yamahas on the front row,Miller and Fabio did their laps right at the end. Bez was held up by yellow flags and slow riders. Alex crashed twice. My prediction that Jack would lead at some point now looks plausible.Pecco and Binder could face penalties. It looked like zarco was on the pace for pole but Binder sort of got in his way

QUALIFYING RESULTS

LIQUI MOLY AUSTRALIAN MOTORCYCLE GRAND PRIX


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Phillip Island 4448 m.


# Rider Nation Team Motorcycle Time Lap Total Gap T. Speed


1 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP Te YAMAHA Q2 1'26.465 99 339.6
2 72 Marco BEZZECCHI ITA Aprilia Racing APRILIA Q2 1'26.496 78 0.031 0.031 349.5
3 43 Jack MILLER AUS Prima Pramac Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA Q2 1'26.708 88 0.243 0.212 349.5
4 25 Raul FERNANDEZ SPA Trackhouse MotoGP Team APRILIA Q2 1'26.851 99 0.386 0.143 347.3
5 37 Pedro ACOSTA SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM Q2 1'26.874 69 0.409 0.023 348.4
6 73 Alex MARQUEZ SPA BK8 Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI Q2 1'26.920 55 0.455 0.046 348.4
7 54 Fermin ALDEGUER SPA BK8 Gresini Racing MotoGP DUCATI Q2 1'26.995 46 0.530 0.075 340.7
8 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Tech3 KTM Q2 1'26.995 38 0.530 354.1
9 10 Luca MARINI ITA Honda HRC Castrol HONDA Q2 1'27.095 38 0.630 0.100 347.3
10 49 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO ITA Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team DUCATI Q2 1'27.116 99 0.651 0.021 349.5
11 63 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI Q2 1'27.285 38 0.820 0.169 349.5
12 42 Alex RINS SPA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP Te YAMAHA Q2 1'27.491 68 1.026 0.206 346.1
13 33 Brad BINDER RSA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM Q1 1'27.109 7 8 (*) 0.038 351.8
14 36 Joan MIR SPA Honda HRC Castrol HONDA Q1 1'27.280 8 9 (*) 0.209 0.171 351.8
15 5 Johann ZARCO FRA CASTROL Honda LCR HONDA Q1 1'27.392 7 9 (*) 0.321 0.112 349.5
16 88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR Prima Pramac Yamaha MotoGP YAMAHA Q1 1'27.726 7 8 (*) 0.655 0.334 345.0
17 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Pertamina Enduro VR46 Racing Team DUCATI Q1 1'27.789 8 8 (*) 0.718 0.063 349.5
18 79 Ai OGURA JPN Trackhouse MotoGP Team APRILIA Q1 1'27.817 7 9 (*) 0.746 0.028 348.4
19 32 Lorenzo SAVADORI ITA Aprilia Racing APRILIA Q1 1'28.156 3 4 (*) 1.085 0.339 348.4
20 23 Enea BASTIANINI ITA Red Bull KTM Tech3 KTM Q1 1'28.211 6 7 (*) 1.140 0.055 349.5
21 35 Somkiat CHANTRA THA IDEMITSU Honda LCR HONDA Q1 1'28.273 9 9 (*) 1.202 0.062 337.5
22 51 Michele PIRRO ITA Ducati Lenovo Team DUCATI Q1 1'28.451 6 8 (*) 1.380 0.178 344.0


* Gap with the fastest rider in the Q1 session.
Pole Position:
Q1 Best Lap:
Best Race Lap:
All-Time Lap Record:




Fabio QUARTARARO 1'26.465 185.1 Km/h
Lap 6 Fermin ALDEGUER (*) 1'27.071 183.9 Km/h
2024 Marc MARQUEZ 1'27.765 182.4 Km/h
2025 Fabio QUARTARARO 1'26.465 185.1 Km/h


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[jato]

FQ must have been smoking around as looking at his top speed he was second to slowest down that straight... jack somehow was 10 kph faster - could be slipstreaming i guess as i didn't get to see qualifying. you've got to say Quartoraro must feel awful vulnerable with such a speed deficit. Bez for the sprint today? who knows for tomorrow...

[SaferRides]

Wasn't a bad race for a sprint. Only Michele Pirro was behind Pecco, and he was faster but didn't overtake.

I watched it live on Three Now, but won't do that again!

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[jato]

three now... and you won't do that again ... funny thing is about half way through the race i vowed to absolutely not listen to those two next year.
not a bad effort from our jack today

[BMWST?]

three now... and you won't do that again ... funny thing is about half way through the race i vowed to absolutely not listen to those two next year.
not a bad effort from our jack today
A mate of mine reckons that three now are better than motogp. I dont like the three now team.
Bez is now only 8 points behind Bagnaia and Alex has stretched his lead over bagnaia to 92. At the rate they are going I would say that Bez will certainly overtake Bagnaia .Alex only has to finish well now and he will tie up second.He is 100 points ahead of Bez
It looks like Di Giannantonio may overtake Frankie. He is now only 11 behind. Whats happened to Frankie. Has he got a gp 25 now?
As of now there are only 136 points available.

[SaferRides]

A mate of mine reckons that three now are better than motogp. I dont like the three now team.
.
I don't like the MotoGP commentators either, and still miss Simon. But they're not annoying. Plus the picture quality from Three Now isn't as good as Dorna. I don't think that's Three's problem though, if I download a TNT video from Motomundo, it doesn't look great either.

It took Bez a while to take the lead. I don't like his chances in the race if he ends up near the back of the field after the double long lap. How quickly does he have to do them?

And why didn't FQ listen to his team and use the same front as everyone else?




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[SaferRides]

Pecco after the sprint:

“So, we are just trying to understand what is happening.”

Bagnaia noted: "In the end, we came to the conclusion that it's not a matter of set-up or electronics, but something else entirely.

"So, we're looking for what's making the bike not work properly. But it's something that's beyond the team's capabilities. We're sort of nitpicking, and it's never easy to find it."



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[iYRe]

Pecco after the sprint:

“So, we are just trying to understand what is happening.”

Bagnaia noted: "In the end, we came to the conclusion that it's not a matter of set-up or electronics, but something else entirely.

"So, we're looking for what's making the bike not work properly. But it's something that's beyond the team's capabilities. We're sort of nitpicking, and it's never easy to find it."



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Doesnt that mean its whats on the bike, not the bike?

[diesel pig]

High winds are forecast for Sunday morning, easing in the afternoon. So the race start may be postponed, possibly as late as 5 PM.

Pecco has one bike he can ride, on the other he has no feel, like Mandalika. They sre meant to be identical.

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I hope it won't be until 5 PM. Anyone got the good oil on when it will start today?

[SaferRides]

I hope it won't be until 5 PM. Anyone got the good oil on when it will start today?5 PM our time.

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[BMWST?]

I hope it won't be until 5 PM. Anyone got the good oil on when it will start today?
yeah the whole program for Sunday has been pushed back 1 hour in an attempt to avoid the worst of the wind so as said above 5pm for motogp

[BMWST?]

I don't like the MotoGP commentators either, and still miss Simon. But they're not annoying. Plus the picture quality from Three Now isn't as good as Dorna. I don't think that's Three's problem though, if I download a TNT video from Motomundo, it doesn't look great either.

It took Bez a while to take the lead. I don't like his chances in the race if he ends up near the back of the field after the double long lap. How quickly does he have to do them?

And why didn't FQ listen to his team and use the same front as everyone else?

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I think he has to do them within three of four laps when he is intructed to do so by the stewards. Apparently he will lose 4 to 5 seconds each time. I think a double is bit harsh actually.

[SaferRides]

I think he has to do them within three of four laps when he is intructed to do so by the stewards. Apparently he will lose 4 to 5 seconds each time. I think a double is bit harsh actually.It was because Motegi was his second offence.

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[diesel pig]

5 PM our time.

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Oh our time. It still suck's but I can deal with that.

[SaferRides]

I tried to watch moto3 on Three Now but only got a blank screen. Not sure why?

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[jato]

3 now worked ok for me. the picture looked pretty clear too so i was looking at those bikes suspension/tyres at work - only once i saw a whisker of patter/chatter. generally watching the premier bikes you'll often see a bit (or sometimes a lot) of chatter happening - does anyone know any current moto 3 mechanics? it'd be interesting to know if they have chatter as a frequent concern in their setup.

[SaferRides]

It worked fine on my phone, but not the laptop. Video quality was better, or maybe I got used to it.

I got used to it. Downloaded the Dorna version, definitely higher quality.

No spoilers but it was a good race.

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[BMWST?]

I watched on Three Now this time. The presentation is sorta homely.Some good knowlwedge there but its .... I thought the picture quality was quite good.I normally watch it on my tv via the motogp android app.
Pecco pecco pecco. He better watch out. Alex has almost wrapped up 2nd place.Bez has overtaken Bagnaia,and if things keep going badly for Pecco he could lose places to Acosta and Digi .Pecco is only 41 points ahead of Acosta and only a further 17 ahead of DiGi.Sounds a lot but Pecco has scored zero in the last 3 races.
Acosta has scored 38 Digi has scored 32 ,111 points available but they start to reduce quickly now.After Malaysia there is only 74 So Alex could wrap up 2nd in malaysia unless he has a disaster

[Reckless]

I watched the replay on 3 now at about 9pm last night as I had to go into the Bike show to pick up the bikes at race time.
The replay is usually up within 1-2 hours, I mostly watch the 1am euro rounds at breakfast this way.
Quite like Suzy Perry she is a very skilled presenter in the way she moves the commentators around the start grid and they are ex racers that have good insight.

Race was good Bez did well really good to see a New winner/Team up there.

Pecco - I did read an article where Diggi was also saying the GP25 is a fickle bike you never know what it is going to be like at any time but it dumped Pecco off again for no reason.

Never thought I'd say it but Not the same wthout MM TBH :gob: Everyone elses level seems to be judged off his level.

PS Toprac just won his third WSBK tittle there is no mistaking the rare raw talent there, I reckon he will make an impact in MotoGP.

[SaferRides]

I watched the replay on 3 now at about 9pm last night as I had to go into the Bike show to pick up the bikes at race time.
The replay is usually up within 1-2 hours, I mostly watch the 1am euro rounds at breakfast this way.
Quite like Suzy Perry she is a very skilled presenter in the way she moves the commentators around the start grid and they are ex racers that have good insight.

Race was good Bez did well really good to see a New winner/Team up there.

Pecco - I did read an article where Diggi was also saying the GP25 is a fickle bike you never know what it is going to be like at any time but it dumped Pecco off again for no reason.

Never thought I'd say it but Not the same wthout MM TBH :gob: Everyone elses level seems to be judged off his level.

PS Toprac just won his third WSBK tittle there is no mistaking the rare raw talent there, I reckon he will make an impact in MotoGP.
I had planned to go to the bike show but too much on this weekend, including MotoGP!

The three top riders from last year, including Pecco, were missing, but they may have struggled to keep up with the Aprillias. I'm planning to go next year as there are rumours it will move to another track, although this year was the biggest crowd since the Stoner era.

Toprak is a talent, but the bikes and tyres are completely different to WSBK. It will be interesting.



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[BMWST?]

Alex has second all but tied up. He only has to score 14 points over the remaining rounds to tie BEZ even if BEZ wins everything from now on .I better say 15 to win because if its tied BEZ will probably have a better countback

[iYRe]

Alex has second all but tied up. He only has to score 14 points over the remaining rounds to tie BEZ even if BEZ wins everything from now on .I better say 15 to win because if its tied BEZ will probably have a better countback

IF he comes second it will be the first and possibly only ever brothers coming first and second in the championship

[SaferRides]

IF he comes second it will be the first and possibly only ever brothers coming first and second in the championshipThey could do it again next year! But unlikely.

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[iYRe]

They could do it again next year! But unlikely.

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If they did it 2x in a row it would never be beaten I expect.. I doubt that even one time will happen again

[F5 Dave]

Why is it unlikely?
Both will be on factory bikes. I imagine they will have calmed the bikes down. So Bagnaia could interrupt if somehow he gets his magic bike fix. Bez if the Aprilia makes another step. Martin? Well. . . Nah.
Pedro? KTM reliant.
FQ if the V4 springs into competitiveness. Nah not right away.

Actually I'd kinda bet on it happening again.
Digi star is rising but I'd expect Alex to be just a bit more consistent on more tracks.

[iYRe]

Why is it unlikely?
Both will be on factory bikes. I imagine they will have calmed the bikes down. So Bagnaia could interrupt if somehow he gets his magic bike fix. Bez if the Aprilia makes another step. Martin? Well. . . Nah.
Pedro? KTM reliant.
FQ if the V4 springs into competitiveness. Nah not right away.

Actually I'd kinda bet on it happening again.
Digi star is rising but I'd expect Alex to be just a bit more consistent on more tracks.

Well, we'll note this and this time next year see if you win the prize.. I'd not put anything past the Marquez brothers I guess...

[F5 Dave]

Cool. I claim all expenses paid trips to remaining rounds after they do it. :wings:

[BMWST?]

This is interesting. They talk a lot about the problems Pecco is having,and some of what they are doing. They can change the electronics for each corner . Makes sense but i had never thought about that level of detaail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Zvt8Inw94

[SaferRides]

Marc will miss the rest of the season including the Valencia test. He has to keep his arm immobilised for 4 weeks, so it will mean a lot of rehab to get strength back in the shoulder.

He will get an extra day of testing at Sepang thanks to the Martin rule, which will probably be of more value than Valencia.

Ducati are hoping to have Nicola Bulega for the European races, but he is reluctant unless he can test ride the bike first. Ducati can't let him test the current bikes, but are trying to sort out something within the rules - maybe an older MotoGP bike?

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[iYRe]

Also, Yamahahahaha will be debuting the v4 because they need race data b4 Fabio fecks off to VR46 in a huff

[BMWST?]

Also, Yamahahahaha will be debuting the v4 because they need race data b4 Fabio fecks off to VR46 in a huff

thats just another wild card for Augusto Fernandez on the V4 isnt it? He has done 1 before,but I cant remember where. Misano?

[iYRe]

thats just another wild card for Augusto Fernandez on the V4 isnt it? He has done 1 before,but I cant remember where. Misano?

Yes, but from what I understand they were not going to do another one

[BMWST?]

Well thats been a wierd day,Acosta and Alex having Crashes,An exciting Q1 ,and another astonsishing Q2 and Sprint.Alex has locked up 2nd place in the championship, the race for third continues

[iYRe]

Well thats been a wierd day,Acosta and Alex having Crashes,An exciting Q1 ,and another astonsishing Q2 and Sprint.Alex has locked up 2nd place in the championship, the race for third continues

Sure was a weird race.. Ducati on Pecco: "We have no idea" = Pecco on Pecco: "I have no idea". So.. basically, we have no idea.

[BMWST?]

Sure was a weird race.. Ducati on Pecco: "We have no idea" = Pecco on Pecco: "I have no idea". So.. basically, we have no idea.
He (Pecco) did say that he tried something specific which gave him some feeling. He didnt say what it was. Obviously found it in FP2 cos he had only 1 soft left for Q2 and only did one run

[iYRe]

He (Pecco) did say that he tried something specific which gave him some feeling. He didnt say what it was. Obviously found it in FP2 cos he had only 1 soft left for Q2 and only did one run

Yeah, I saw another interview where he said they tried something but he didnt seem to know what it was exactly. In IT, when people are having phantom problems with their computers we tell them we have changed something and dont do anything.. he probably got a placebo :P

[iYRe]

Racing this weekend.. all bets are off whether Pecco will come first or last, whether Bez will be competitive or not, or if mini marquez will take over his brothers winning streak.

Quote from Max Oxley (on Marc Marquez):


I have massive admiration for him. He’s astonishing in every way. Do I like him? Yes I think so. I’ve been dealing with him for 15 years and he’s always polite, always engaged, never cocky etc. The real test of course is the team people who have worked with him. They all love him. Through speaking to so many people - from mechanics up - I discovered someone different

[sugilite]

When MM first burst on the scene I sure admired his skills, but was not keen on his bowling ball style carnage against other riders. Now days I'm a 100% admirer of the man. Once he hangs up his helmet, I feel he could not be left out of any conversation regarding who is the greatest motogp racer of all time.

I too have no idea who will be at the pointy end of this Weekends race, but I sure would not mind seeing Pedro make his tyres last long enough to withstand one of his fun as hell to watch swashbuckling barn storming rides to take his maiden motogp win :yes:

[iYRe]

When MM first burst on the scene I sure admired his skills, but was not keen on his bowling ball style carnage against other riders. Now days I'm a 100% admirer of the man. Once he hangs up his helmet, I feel he could not be left out of any conversation regarding who is the greatest motogp racer of all time.

I too have no idea who will be at the pointy end of this Weekends race, but I sure would not mind seeing Pedro make his tyres last long enough to withstand one of his fun as hell to watch swashbuckling barn storming rides to take his maiden motogp win :yes:

I'm enjoying watching the honda riders throwing those things in also sorts of improbable directions heh

[sugilite]

I'm enjoying watching the honda riders throwing those things in also sorts of improbable directions heh

True that! The Honda is coming good now, and man, no one could accuse Mir of being under committed - there is a bunch of his skin and blood that has gone into the development of that bike! Marini is coming good too of late, and Zarco always gives it a good go too - another important cog in the Hondas progress.

[iYRe]

Ooh, I found another quote from oxley:


Jack Miller has recalled a wild memory from the 2018 Qatar pre-season tests — when Marc Márquez was seen deliberately losing the front end to test his Honda’s limits.🗣️ “He was turning the handlebars hard mid-corner, on purpose,” Miller said. “It was madness. Marc was holding the bike at full lean, searching for the limit.”
According to Michelin’s Piero Taramasso, Márquez tested at night with a hard front tire, when the track was cold — something no one else dared to do. After the session, Miller confronted him:
🗣️ “What were you doing in Turn 6?”
Márquez simply replied:
🗣️ “I wanted to know where the limit is — and how it feels when it happens.”
The story, shared in Mat Oxley’s biography of Márquez, shows the Spaniard’s fearless and analytical approach. Even then, Márquez was known not just for taking risks, but for methodically studying them.

Risks, or science? I mean, if I fall off, I am in the shit for quite some time. If he falls off, chances are he can run back to the pits get on another bike and go again...

[F5 Dave]

Yeah but racing you have to find the limit in practice or practice races. Usually the bike will survive enough to try the points races in the day. Your confidence is either shaken. Or Bolstered. As you now know the limits. That depends on your phycology. And they are several steps above club racers.

[sugilite]

Alex fastest on Friday, then Peco, Pedro and Bez. Nicolo Bulega produced 17th fastest time only just over 1 second off the pace. Impressive when you think about what he has to learn with all the new buttons on the bars, ride height gadget to control, Michelin tyres to work out and a shit ton more power and different electronics. Mind boggling.
I remember when a fellow racer gave me a spin on his zxr750 superbike at Ruapuna with a reversegear shift lever and with just that change to deal with I was more than a second slower a lap. :laugh:
Are these modern racers even human? Dna tests required!

[sugilite]

Holy crap, just saw this article on crash. BOTH young Moto 3 riders involved in the warm up lap of the Moto 3 race the other week suffered cardiac arrest. WTF!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1085816/1/motogp-slammed-loss-credibility-over-moto3-crash-reporting

[BMWST?]

Alex fastest on Friday, then Peco, Pedro and Bez. Nicolo Bulega produced 17th fastest time only just over 1 second off the pace. Impressive when you think about what he has to learn with all the new buttons on the bars, ride height gadget to control, Michelin tyres to work out and a shit ton more power and different electronics. Mind boggling.
I remember when a fellow racer gave me a spin on his zxr750 superbike at Ruapuna with a reversegear shift lever and with just that change to deal with I was more than a second slower a lap. :laugh:
Are these modern racers even human? Dna tests required!
thats why some are called aliens

[jellywrestler]

Holy crap, just saw this article on crash. BOTH young Moto 3 riders involved in the warm up lap of the Moto 3 race the other week suffered cardiac arrest. WTF!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1085816/1/motogp-slammed-loss-credibility-over-moto3-crash-reporting

not uncommon with highly fit sports people, something to do with lactose levels i read.

[roogazza]

not uncommon with highly fit sports people, something to do with lactose levels i read.

Mate, the two of us are going to have to be careful . :yes::innocent::facepalm:

[jato]

good to see a spirited ride by pedro this morning. a slightly scaled down version of that track would be good to have in nz. who's got a couple of hundred acres spare?

[Reckless]

good to see a spirited ride by pedro this morning. a slightly scaled down version of that track would be good to have in nz. who's got a couple of hundred acres spare?

Gary Stirling's (aka MottoTT) new track at Thunderridge is supposed to have a fair bit of elevation over a lap. :headbang:

Cant wait to have a go :)

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PS The sprint was one of the best MottoGp races I have seen

[BMWST?]

Pecco has surely lost 3rd plce in the champoinship .He is now -35 points to Bez. He is now only 4 points ahaad of Acosta but Digi and Frankie cant cathc him now. I would almost Guarantee that Acosta will outscore him by more than 4 points in the last round.
Another inexplicable weekend.
Paddock pass Podcast now reckon that Aprilia are a real threat to Ducati. Without Marc they dont really have any reiable feedback on the GP25 because both Pecco and Digi have been so inconsistent.Frankie has also been inconsistent in the last few races. Its gonna be Gresini who develop the GP26???

[Reckless]

Pecco has surely lost 3rd plce in the champoinship .He is now -35 points to Bez. He is now only 4 points ahaad of Acosta but Digi and Frankie cant cathc him now. I would almost Guarantee that Acosta will outscore him by more than 4 points in the last round.
Another inexplicable weekend.
Paddock pass Podcast now reckon that Aprilia are a real threat to Ducati. Without Marc they dont really have any reiable feedback on the GP25 because both Pecco and Digi have been so inconsistent.Frankie has also been inconsistent in the last few races. Its gonna be Gresini who develop the GP26???

I think MM may not help for a ridable bike as proved at Honda.
He can ride a bad bike and make it look good, therefore making the development go in his direction, which is further away from an easier bike to ride.
MM is a bit like Verstappen in F1 more Alien than anyone can match.
Ducati's best bike was the 24 they went down a hole with the 25, they lost the feel and hope they can reverse with the 26, only time will tell :)
Ducati will have to be aware of the MM effect, he is almost to good, if you get what I mean.

Looks like we will have Martin and Vinales back for the final round.

[iYRe]

Bulega on MotoGp:

On the differences between WorldSBK and MotoGP, Bulega: "I HAD TO CHANGE MY STYLE, MY HEAD ALMOST EXPLODED..." After his first day on the GP25 prototype in official competition, Nicolo Bulega revealed the differences between SBK and MotoGP.
"Right now I don't see anything extraordinary or impossible. It's just that everything I do on the GP25 is different from the Panigale: I'm talking about braking, downshifting, corner exit, and braking. Once you combine all these things and complete a lap, your head explodes (smiles). The rear brake at the end is like a scooter, I even use it in SBK and I really like it."
🗣️ Speaking of braking, what's the difference?
"In SBK you can be as aggressive as you want, whereas here you can't. The truth is I had to change my style, and after two years in SBK, it's not easy to change in one day. If I can be more natural, I can do better.
🗣️ Back to the SBK comparison, is there a big leap compared to MotoGP?
"Nothing crazy. SBK is not Moto2, even physically, SBK trains you more, and you come more prepared for MotoGP. I'm here to work and I'll maintain the same approach for Saturday and Sunday, where there will be racing, which I've never done before.
🗣️ Is there anything different in the garage?
"I know the Ducati method and it's the same. In SBK, when you come back to the pits, you have 5-6 people in front of you, here there are 10-15 people in front of you."

[F5 Dave]

I think MM may not help for a ridable bike as proved at Honda.
He can ride a bad bike and make it look good, therefore making the development go in his direction, . . .
It's the engineers that make the decision and read the data.
Honda proved they were in a tailspin, but i think that was of their own makingg.they kept getting worse even after he left.
And yes he makes do.
But it could also be that the 25 is 0.smidgeon better if you ride it in a precise way. Maybe MM was able to do that so computer says YES.
It doesn't make it a better racebike, just theoretically better over a lap perhaps.
Put them all on GP24 including a fit Martin and I think MM still would have won, just not near as comfortably and bad luck could have turned the tide. Like a late season injury perhaps.

[iYRe]

It's the engineers that make the decision and read the data.
Honda proved they were in a tailspin, but i think that was of their own makingg.they kept getting worse even after he left.
And yes he makes do.
But it could also be that the 25 is 0.smidgeon better if you ride it in a precise way. Maybe MM was able to do that so computer says YES.
It doesn't make it a better racebike, just theoretically better over a lap perhaps.
Put them all on GP24 including a fit Martin and I think MM still would have won, just not near as comfortably and bad luck could have turned the tide. Like a late season injury perhaps.

I think you're both right.
I think that when MM gets on, they stop trying to fix the rideability issues - because he just "makes it work (tm)"

With Ducati, the development was already done before Mark was involved, so I dont think that was the issue personally. I reckon is shows that any of those guys will be fast on a "perfect" bike, but when there is an issue with the bike, that's when the aliens stand out from the crowd. If MM is racing still in 2027, things could be very interesting

[iYRe]

MM on Rossi:


“Rossi obsessed? Everyone sees things differently,” he began.

“I’m not there looking back. If I win my 10th world championship, I don’t think he’ll worry.


“And, honestly, I don’t care. I’m focusing on those who bring me value.




“What if we met? No, we wouldn’t say hello. He doesn’t need me, and I don’t need him. But motorcycling, yes, needs both of us.”

I thought the last line was correct, and very wise. I think if MM quit now, MotoGP would become very boring, until the next Alien arrives - maybe that's Acosta? TBH, I feel like it could be FQ when he gets a bike thats not 10kmh slower than everyone else.

[F5 Dave]

It's both of them. Martin was Alien Adjacent. A fully fot Martin on a bike he likes would be formidable. I think we have been cheated by life (F.you life, what have you ever done for us?) By Martin getting injured and progressively sulky.
Imagine him 3 races into the series, getting used to the bike and with a point to prove to stick one on Team Ducatis eye?

Ah well, may never happen.

But of Pecco. What has changed with him and his bike?

So. . . Maybe it is What has changed with other bikes?
Get a grip Dave, you're blabbering.
Ok but maybe the aero on the Katoom and Appleandpear has changed to create a really dirty wake that the Dooclatteries get upset by? Specifically the 25s. MM is not in that wake. Either is Alex on the 24. Except when he is down the field and he gets stuck there.
But Pecco favours the shorter fork and soft front springs.. Maybe the bike sits further in the stroke making the aero more problematic?

Ok really ramblings but it's Friday.

[Reckless]

It's both of them. Martin was Alien Adjacent. A fully fot Martin on a bike he likes would be formidable. I think we have been cheated by life (F.you life, what have you ever done for us?) By Martin getting injured and progressively sulky.
Imagine him 3 races into the series, getting used to the bike and with a point to prove to stick one on Team Ducatis eye?

Ah well, may never happen.

But of Pecco. What has changed with him and his bike?

So. . . Maybe it is What has changed with other bikes?
Get a grip Dave, you're blabbering.
Ok but maybe the aero on the Katoom and Appleandpear has changed to create a really dirty wake that the Dooclatteries get upset by? Specifically the 25s. MM is not in that wake. Either is Alex on the 24. Except when he is down the field and he gets stuck there.
But Pecco favours the shorter fork and soft front springs.. Maybe the bike sits further in the stroke making the aero more problematic?

Ok really ramblings but it's Friday.

That bloody Hutt Valley Houch is good aye mate going by the above LMAO.
I know it is, I have a sister in Naenae :bleh::msn-wink:

But seriously
I think the 25 is a fickle bike and the 24 rock solid, they are hoping they know why. Interesting theory about the aero :)
Martin biggest problem is Martin his head thinks he is better than he is even tho that is alien some days. Be interesting to see how he comes back with his teammate doing so well.
MM is alien everyday, including in the gargage with the team. Same as Verstappen in F1.
They say most of racing is done off track. I spend 4 times as much time in the garage as I do ontrack, plus exercise :nono:
Really interested to see how Toprac goes? That COULD put the cat amongst the Pigeons, although the yamaha is sruggling a lot pretty sure he is not going to ride it any better than Fabio - if he stays??.

[F5 Dave]

He won't be riding it as good as Jack.

[BMWST?]

Bulega siad tht you just cant brake on the michelins like yu can with the sbk pirellis. So I think Topracks main strenght will not be his main strength in 26. Onc they get Pirellis we will have to see

[F5 Dave]

Agreed .

Hooch? Means several things depending on the audience i suppose. Im up on the hills. Here our Hutt hooch might be this. (Made in the valley) . Not sure on herbal alternatives.

But to be honest I won't buy again.
That said the aged Havarti is the best beer cheese I've had.

[pete376403]

Agreed .

Hooch? Means several things depending on the audience i suppose. Im up on the hills. Here our Hutt hooch might be this. (Made in the valley) . Not sure on herbal alternatives.

But to be honest I won't buy again.
That said the aged Havarti is the best beer cheese I've had.

You need to go to Keruru at the other side of Brewtown, they have some really nice beers

[Reckless]

Davide Tardozzi gives some insight into what's going on with Pecco.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2341860476251412

Basicaly Saying Pecco is too sensitive to ride around any issues the bike may have at a track on the particular day.
Thats what I got what say you?

[iYRe]

I mean, its possible that his feeling is so precise and sensitive that he's able to offer understanding that no one else can.. But then, Marc is supposed to be able too as well, and Miller, and others.

I do feel him though, because I have never been fast because I feel everything, including stuff that never happened.. and maybe that's what happens to him - "it doesnt feel like yesterday so its broken" - its actually an ADHD thing, at least that's what I was told when I asked about it for my own concerns.

[iYRe]

From the interwebs:
According to veteran MotoGP journalist Mat Oxley, Ducati is poised to give Francesco Bagnaia a major lifeline for the 2026 season — by essentially running the 2024-spec bike under a new guise.
Bagnaia has endured a challenging 2025 campaign, with his GP25 failing to deliver expected results. In Oxley’s view, this “hidden GP24” strategy could act as a ‘get-out-of-jail’ card — giving Bagnaia a fresh chance to reset without changing factory teams.

[SaferRides]

Due to life, I'm catching up with the last 2 races. So here's my suggestion for Dorna after watching the Portimao sprint:

Obviously neither Alex or Pedro gave a f*** about the championship. So either make the sprint worth zero points, or at the most, 25%.

Send the cheque to ...

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[F5 Dave]

And so endith another year.
Watched last night.

Ok my wish list:

All fairings from 2015.
Traction control from 2005.
No shape shifting device or launch control.
Martin fully fit and motivated.
Pecco on his 2024 bike.
Rear rims sizes reduced to limit rear tyre grip so they slide more and don't push the front which should increase the spectacle. That alone would help Acosta.
Yamaha bring a competitive V4.
Forget the sprints.
Yeeha.

[jato]

although some (most?) of the best racing this year have been in the sprints

[iYRe]

And so endith another year.
Watched last night.

Ok my wish list:

All fairings from 2015.
Traction control from 2005.
No shape shifting device or launch control.
Martin fully fit and motivated.
Pecco on his 2024 bike.
Rear rims sizes reduced to limit rear tyre grip so they slide more and don't push the front which should increase the spectacle. That alone would help Acosta.
Yamaha bring a competitive V4.
Forget the sprints.
Yeeha.

Apparently Toprak is already faster than Miller on on teh v4 in testing

[Reckless]

And so endith another year.
Watched last night.

Ok my wish list:

All fairings from 2015.
Traction control from 2005.
No shape shifting device or launch control.
Martin fully fit and motivated.
Pecco on his 2024 bike.
Rear rims sizes reduced to limit rear tyre grip so they slide more and don't push the front which should increase the spectacle. That alone would help Acosta.
Yamaha bring a competitive V4.
Forget the sprints.
Yeeha.

Yup except Keep the sprints

Maybe Time for a MotoGP 2026 thread :)

[sugilite]

And so endith another year.
Watched last night.

Ok my wish list:

All fairings from 2015.
Traction control from 2005.
No shape shifting device or launch control.
Martin fully fit and motivated.
Pecco on his 2024 bike.
Rear rims sizes reduced to limit rear tyre grip so they slide more and don't push the front which should increase the spectacle. That alone would help Acosta.
Yamaha bring a competitive V4.
Forget the sprints.
Yeeha.

I'm onboard for all of that bar getting rid of the sprints. A: it gives me somthing to do on a Saturday night, and for me the best single race of the year was the sprint race in Portugal - wow!

Moving onto testing, if they gave Bagnia a GP24 in drag, it has not appeared to have worked.
Fernandez in P1 - He is really coming on as a rider on the Aprillia, fantastic result.
Topraks team are amazed by how fast he adapted to the front michilin. They told him he needed to take it easy on the front, and he listened and adapted all without an excursion to the kitty litter - bodes well for him adapting. I had seen a few articles saying he would struggle to adapt to motogp, but considering he is not just a World class racer, but a very skilled stunt rider to boot - what were these "experts" going off to reach their conclusions!
Maverick is 6th - He is looking good for taking out the fastest rider in testing for 2026 :yes:
Bulega 8th fastest - WOW! that is a fantastic result too, 2 places ahead of 3 time champ Baggles as well.
Fabio Q was just over 1/2 a second off the pace with a power restricted V4 - immediately declares it as shit! - sounds like a rider not wanting Yamaha to back off the development side of things - smart man - and likely threat for a title if he were on an Aprillia or Ducati. Lets hope Yamaha give this guy a bike worthy of his undoubted skills.
Zarco - Johann Zarco: Nothing “very bad” or “super positive” about new Honda MotoGP bike. The 2026 Honda MotoGP bike is “working well” even if there aren’t “any super-positive points”. Surely there is a career waiting for Zarco in the UN diplomatic realm with diplomacy like that!

[Reckless]

OK so I did it again for next year :first:

My architect's OCD wouldnt let me post about Toprak in a 2025 thread :weird:

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/190560-MotoGP-2026