Canterbury: Chch Wednesday Evening Cruises - 2008 [Archive] - Page 4

Deviant Esq

26th March 2008, 06:53

Seems like the perfect excuse to be out there every Wednesday during winter.

You know to practice your night riding.
:yes:

Myself and Spuds went out 'practising' night riding last night...

...okay, it was more an excuse to go for a hoon on my new bike (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=70150), but since it was dark the whole time I figure we can call it night riding practice as well. I'm with you Helen - not a big fan of riding in the dark either really, but a bit of practice at it and you begin to feel more comfortable. Last night wasn't as bad as I remember it... you just have to take it easy. :)

Mr Triple

26th March 2008, 07:47

Got the day off today so looks like I'll be along tonight for a ride. And to see Deviant Esq new ride. See you all there:niceone:

phoenixgtr

26th March 2008, 08:15

:laugh: I'm sorry, I know our circumstances are different but that kinda talk still cracks me up every time I hear it. :rofl::innocent:

Yeah, well if I was riding your bike it wouldn't bother me and I don't want to go north again. I was bored last week.

(Geez I sound like a whinger)

Transalper

26th March 2008, 09:42

Yeah, well if I was riding your bike it wouldn't bother me
That's what I mean by our circumstances being different :cool:

DrJekyll

26th March 2008, 10:36

shingle... *shudders*

:eek5:

JWALKER

26th March 2008, 12:18

there is a couple of us who are taking off early and heading over that way, so, i will give you a txt phoenix, like last time and let you know what the road is like and if there any places to watch out for:Punk:

Rashika

26th March 2008, 16:22

So is the plan to head towards the hill then?
passing thru Halswell?

dangerous

26th March 2008, 17:01

...okay, it was more an excuse to go for a hoon on my new bike

IMHO to big to fast.. but you will learn, enjoy it while ya can man... I plan to pop along tonight so ill check it out.. great colours, looks sweet.

fireliv

26th March 2008, 17:22

Have a good ride team, bit to much on to make tonight :bye:

JMemonic

26th March 2008, 20:54

Good ride tonight for me, only went as far as little river then rode back and had a beer at the Halswell pub, looks like not a bad spot to have as a stop for some shorter rides over winter.

karla

26th March 2008, 20:56

Great to see everyone, meet the new comers, and chit chat for a while. What a good turnout. Hope you all enjoyed the ride tonight. Kudos to those there who are so good with the less experienced - Jmemonic especially. Thank you.

I took my Little Boy home and then rode out to Wheatsheaf, plan was to go on to little River and try and meet up with the group but it was getting too dark for me, so I had a coffee there and then cruised back home. Feeling a lot better about riding in the dark - it's easier when I have my lights on full, rather than following others, and I just take it easy.

Home with a sparkle in my eye again - it feels like forever since I've been out. Rode past a couple of police cars and had to overcome my impulse to check my seatbelt. :laugh: Senility ...

Spuds1234

26th March 2008, 21:29

Feeling a lot better about riding in the dark - it's easier when I have my lights on full, rather than following others, and I just take it easy.

Just leave your brights on all the time. Most of the time a riders arms are in the way of you blinding them.

Heck I prefer to have the people who ride behind me have their brights on.

Makes my life easier.

Mr Triple

26th March 2008, 21:41

Had a great ride tonight it was a nice night for riding apart from the wind. Had a blast riding with Rashika, you should come more often. I don't even mind being pass by two women what a laugh:Punk:
I only went as far as little river as well tonight and went back to the Halswell pub for a beer and a natter. Great time, had a smile on my face most of the ride thanks people. It was good to meet the new faces as well.

homer

26th March 2008, 22:04

yep thanks to all who attended

Mr Triple

26th March 2008, 22:17

You got home alright then, good to meet ya :2thumbsup

Deviant Esq

26th March 2008, 22:20

Excellent ride, what can I say? Loving the ZX-6R. The gravelley stretch heading up towards Hilltop wasn't too much fun, but everything else was beaut. I made sure I stayed behind phoenixgtr so I didn't go too fast too soon, but I found that it was so good to ride through the twisties, so well planted, that even in the dark I never had any trouble at all. Can't wait to get the brakes sussed and have another trip over the hill in the daytime! :drool:

Cheers phoenix for the bike swap, it was good to be able to feel the differences between the two bikes. Good for education and making both bikes better :)

P.S. Was good to see you show up too Rashika, haven't seen you for ages! :niceone:

Rashika

27th March 2008, 04:10

awwww shucks guys :innocent:
I do try to get out more, just hard having a 4.30am start the next day all the time. At least I've been along for a few now. Is there one more before daylight savings starts?
And i really enjoyed the ride tonight, the sunset was just incredable reflected on the hills, and watching the clouds flow over the top was cute, tho the strong winds were not the best.
Had a moment at the end of the mad mile on the way back when i dropped down a gear and noticed the bike didn't seem to slow down and thought 'what?' then realised the wind was so strong it was pushing me into the corner. And with the sun gone it was a little weird to be in the dark. My regular lights are pitiful tho full beam are excellant... so full beam it is for me i think from now on.
But a lovely night, good to catch up briefly with a few people and meet a few newbies. One day we will have to do this in the daylight! ;)

homer

27th March 2008, 06:20

Whats the chances ?

if it all slows up in the winter , and not many going on the night rides .
Hows about the same but a sat arvo ......?

Transalper

27th March 2008, 07:55

Was another good ride, would have been even better if not for the wind, the run home seemed to go on forever.
Was just thinking for the darker rides coming up, doing a loop out through the bays and Gebbies to somewhere like the Halswell Tavern might indeed be a nicer way to go, finishing nearer or in town.

helenoftroy

27th March 2008, 08:02

Had a great ride tonight it was a nice night for riding apart from the wind. Had a blast riding with Rashika, you should come more often. I don't even mind being pass by two women what a laugh:Punk:

Apart from that wind-we all had a good ride eh:2thumbsupDont think Dr Jekell liked the wind much.....

Excellent ride, what can I say? Loving the ZX-6R.

P.S. Was good to see you show up too Rashika, haven't seen you for ages! :niceone:
it made my night seeing your happy smiley face enjoying your new wheels:hug:
And yeah it was great to see you Rashika

Whats the chances ?

if it all slows up in the winter , and not many going on the night rides .
Hows about the same but a sat arvo ......?
Sounds just fine to me

phoenixgtr

27th March 2008, 08:26

Could be a goer. From the looks of things my bikes going to be sitting in the garage over winter, only to come out on the weekends.

I had a pretty crap ride last night. Things aren't gelling and I'm doubting my riding ability more and more, which is just making it even worse. I really need this rider training weekend

DrJekyll

27th March 2008, 08:31

A huge big thank you to everyone that helped me :apint: - you KNOW who YOU are - and all of you that made me feel really welcome to the group.

Ya right, Helen, i didn't enjoy the wind much at all (especially when it put me in a ditch but hey! what can ya do! :buggerd:) but it was great to actually be out on my newbie wheels.

Look forward to doing it all again soon. (well not all....)

:rolleyes:

The Lone Rider

27th March 2008, 09:30

For those of you not in the know, Jeff might not be out again for awhile.

Coming home last night with Elliot, he was tailgated and hit by a car while going through Hornby.

I'd say he is alright considering the first thing he said to me was about his bike being busted... not him.

onearmedbandit

27th March 2008, 09:43

POor J, he does have more than his share of bad luck. Heal soon mate.

Deviant Esq

27th March 2008, 10:21

I had a pretty crap ride last night. Things aren't gelling and I'm doubting my riding ability more and more, which is just making it even worse. I really need this rider training weekend
I'll talk to you about this further tonight... if you want to, that is. I've got some ideas I'd like to talk to you about, but yeah, only if you're wanting to. I don't think they're less valid even though you've been riding bigger bikes much longer than I have.

Mikkel

27th March 2008, 10:32

For shorter rides there's also the option of Godley House at Diamond Harbour. If people are wanting more the trip up over the pass to Port Levy is a pleasant enough ride - although I wouldn't go up that way after dark as a group.

For those of you not in the know, Jeff might not be out again for awhile.

Coming home last night with Elliot, he was tailgated and hit by a car while going through Hornby.

I'd say he is alright considering the first thing he said to me was about his bike being busted... not him.

FFS! :bash:

Good to hear he's sorta alright! Did he get the authorities involved?

Spuds1234

27th March 2008, 10:37

Deviant Esq

27th March 2008, 10:39

For shorter rides there's also the option of Godley House at Diamond Harbour. If people are wanting more the trip up over the pass to Port Levy is a pleasant enough ride - although I wouldn't go up that way after dark as a group.
Only problem is that in winter Dyers Pass gets a large amount of grit thrown at it, and it really isn't much fun skating around on it. Going out through Halswell is the better (but more boring) option, but Gebbies Pass can still be hairy in winter. Either grit, or if they haven't bothered, icy patches, esp at nighttime. Probably best to curtail the CWNR over winter and pick it up again next daylight savings, and let people arrange amongst themselves if they want to go for a ride. Or, as someone mentioned, make it a daytime Saturday ride.

JWALKER

27th March 2008, 11:16

yes, the police are involved and hopefully the guy will be charged with careless use of a motor vechile, but still doesnt seem enough to me, when he drove into the back of my bike while i was on it, after i had pulled over and stopped.

JWALKER

27th March 2008, 11:18

He can get me involved. Ive got a whole bunch of good things under my bike seat that can inflict pain or fix a broken bike. Just ask Nathan.

might keep that in mind. am a little sore at the moment

Mikkel

27th March 2008, 11:21

Only problem is that in winter Dyers Pass gets a large amount of grit thrown at it, and it really isn't much fun skating around on it. Going out through Halswell is the better (but more boring) option, but Gebbies Pass can still be hairy in winter. Either grit, or if they haven't bothered, icy patches, esp at nighttime. Probably best to curtail the CWNR over winter and pick it up again next daylight savings, and let people arrange amongst themselves if they want to go for a ride. Or, as someone mentioned, make it a daytime Saturday ride.

There's the tunnel mate. I would at least be very, very careful on any of the passes over winter. I don't think Dyers would be more dodgy than Evans or Gebbies...

yes, the police are involved and hopefully the guy will be charged with careless use of a motor vechile, but still doesnt seem enough to me, when he drove into the back of my bike while i was on it, after i had pulled over and stopped.

So exactly what happened?

Sellout

27th March 2008, 11:23

He can get me involved. Ive got a whole bunch of good things under my bike seat that can inflict pain or fix a broken bike. Just ask Nathan.

Hows that headlight going? Get it all sorted.

Electrical tape and lock wire will fix anything period.

Damn right! The mighty Zonga (rattle and clang) lost a grand total of two nuts and a bolt on the ride last night!!!! :crazy: But thanks to Spuds, and his amazing collection of bits 'n' bobs, the headlight was secured after losing one of its bolts! :woohoo: I'm off to Mitre 10 today to get another bolt and some spring washers!

Thanks again for hangin back with me Spuds, highly appreciated! The mighty Zong made it to 97kph last night, a new land speed record, but only in the really sheltered places. That wind was a killer, dropped me down on the speed side something crazy!

All keen for next week, and whatever happens over winter. Saturday sounds good, or we can take it week by week and if the weather is good, go for Gebbies or Port Levy then Halswell Tavern. Or if the weather is poor maybe we can do Garage nights!

Mikkel

27th March 2008, 11:29

Damn right! The mighty Zonga (rattle and clang) lost a grand total of two nuts and a bolt on the ride last night!!!! :crazy: But thanks to Spuds, and his amazing collection of bits 'n' bobs, the headlight was secured after losing one of its bolts! :woohoo: I'm off to Mitre 10 today to get another bolt and some spring washers!

Thanks again for hangin back with me Spuds, highly appreciated! The mighty Zong made it to 97kph last night, a new land speed record, but only in the really sheltered places. That wind was a killer, dropped me down on the speed side something crazy!

All keen for next week, and whatever happens over winter. Saturday sounds good, or we can take it week by week and if the weather is good, go for Gebbies or Port Levy then Halswell Tavern. Or if the weather is poor maybe we can do Garage nights!

Consider getting some non-permanent fastner and apply it to "problem bolts" :yes:

Deviant Esq

27th March 2008, 11:30

Or if the weather is poor maybe we can do Garage nights!
I'll add a vote in for that, as long as there's beer and a garage BBQ to keep things interesting! :whistle:

Sellout

27th March 2008, 11:32

Consider getting some non-permanent fastner and apply it to "problem bolts" :yes:

Just about every bolt has Loctite on it, except these bolts which I need to take off occassionally... Learnt my lesson, a shopping for fastenings we will go......

JWALKER

27th March 2008, 12:40

So exactly what happened?

elliot and me were coming home from the wednesday night ride.
was going down carmen road in hornby, past the workingmans club and this guy pulled out from the left in front of me and cut me off, so i went around him.
then he started tailgating me and swerving behind me. we came up to the lights and they turned orange, so, i went through hoping to lose him, but he carryed on through too. so i indicatored and pulled over outside hornby high and then he drove straight into the back me on purpose when i stopped.
the whole back has been pushed in, he hit me so hard, the back of his car came up in the air.

cops are going to probably charge him with careless use of a motorvechile

JMemonic

27th March 2008, 13:57

elliot and me were coming home from the wednesday night ride.
was going down carmen road in hornby, past the workingmans club and this guy pulled out from the left in front of me and cut me off, so i went around him.
then he started tailgating me and swerving behind me. we came up to the lights and they turned orange, so, i went through hoping to lose him, but he carryed on through too. so i indicatored and pulled over outside hornby high and then he drove straight into the back me on purpose when i stopped.
the whole back has been pushed in, he hit me so hard, the back of his car came up in the air.

cops are going to probably charge him with careless use of a motorvechile

Tell the cops you believe it was an attempt to cause injury or harm, did they breath test him ?

phoenixgtr

27th March 2008, 14:48

That should be reckless use of a motor vehicle, not just careless

Spuds1234

27th March 2008, 14:56

I'll add a vote in for that, as long as there's beer and a garage BBQ to keep things interesting! :whistle:

Man Im posting at work. Im such a rebel :headbang:

I'll volinteer my garage.

It doesnt have much in it so there is heaps of room for the bikes and all the big tough bikers that come along can spend the night intimidating my other flat mate (not dave-, the other one. Dave- would just think your being silly)

Mikkel

27th March 2008, 15:12

elliot and me were coming home from the wednesday night ride.
was going down carmen road in hornby, past the workingmans club and this guy pulled out from the left in front of me and cut me off, so i went around him.
then he started tailgating me and swerving behind me. we came up to the lights and they turned orange, so, i went through hoping to lose him, but he carryed on through too. so i indicatored and pulled over outside hornby high and then he drove straight into the back me on purpose when i stopped.
the whole back has been pushed in, he hit me so hard, the back of his car came up in the air.

cops are going to probably charge him with careless use of a motorvechile

Holy fucking shit! What an idiot...

That should be reckless use of a motor vehicle, not just careless

Try Dangerous Driving with Intent to Injure!

Some people doesn't deserve justice - they deserve a 9 mm injection to the base of their skulls!

El Stevo

27th March 2008, 16:15

Some people doesn't deserve justice - they deserve a 9 mm injection to the base of their skulls!

After one in each kneecap!

Sounds like a linch mob may do more justice in this case rather than our pussy PC legal system.:Oi:

Subike

27th March 2008, 16:59

for those clear winternights that are dry but cold, try marshlands road then right into lowerstyx, past spencerville to brooklands, then on to Kianga and finish at that in little pub at bridge end. A quick little ride with some nice flat windy roads that are normally clean and a good little pub at the end. just a quick squirt back into town from there. Good practice roads for any level rider.
probably a 1/2 hr ride

a deviation could be spencerville road just past the spencer part turn of, has a few corners that can catch the unwary ride, espesially the last over the railway line, and then finnish at the Peg hotel in belfast

suggestions for you all to concider

BBzz

27th March 2008, 18:16

[QUOTE=Sellout;1491879]: I'm off to Mitre 10 today to get another bolt and some spring washers!QUOTE]

Give Blacks Fasteners a go they have a lock washer called a NORD-LOCK WASHER I haven’t used them but they look pretty good, also have a real good range of bolts and the right TENSILE strength which is quite important. Miter 10 probably only have mild steel which may brake. Gasson Street or Blenheim Road helpful guys as well.

JAS-1100

27th March 2008, 18:25

hey Jwalker it jas with the blue 1100F i have a full work shop in my garage give me a txt 0210322610 might be able to repair your bike

Oakie

27th March 2008, 18:52

he started tailgating me and swerving behind me. ... i indicatored and pulled over outside hornby high and then he drove straight into the back me on purpose when i stopped.
cops are going to probably charge him with careless use of a motorvechile

Scary shit huh! Same sort of thing happened to me years ago when I had Mrs Oakie on as pillion. Fortunately I was able to pull over infront of a parked car so he couldn't hit us. As luck would have it there was a mufti cop coming the other way who saw the whole thing, turned, gave chase and in the end the guy lost his licence for 6 months.

homer

27th March 2008, 19:11

homer

27th March 2008, 19:13

Good ride tonight for me, only went as far as little river then rode back and had a beer at the Halswell pub, looks like not a bad spot to have as a stop for some shorter rides over winter.

A really good wee place for a stop off

Rashika

27th March 2008, 19:43

elliot and me were coming home from the wednesday night ride.

sorry to hear you got hit, odd that they would follow you for no reason at all tho JW.
Didnt notice you on the KB ride, I'm guessing this was a different ride?

A really good wee place for a stop off
yeah must do that sometime, considering i live round the corner ;)

Lil'M

27th March 2008, 20:08

MMMMHMMMMMMMMM................. one suggestion in one word

gn250

cant go wrong!

Bren_chch

27th March 2008, 20:20

JMemonic

27th March 2008, 22:10

Ok apart from a couple of minor off's (yes lets be honest there have been accidents, and they have been covered here in detail) the Wed night cruisy rides should be considered a success.

Hats of to Tristan, Ryan and Liv, etc for a getting this going and continuing it, unfortunately daylight savings ends this weekend and this means darkness hits a bit earlier and some folks are not too keen on riding in the dark, ok perhaps suggestions are in order, I did see the idea of garage night and if I understand this right you are looking at servicing bikes, good idea and wofman (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=15381) may offer the use of his workshop for this purpose, mainly for teaching folks how to do the basics, (great idea if you ask me), however the idea is to have rides still and to this end please consider shorter routes you would feel happy with and perhaps some stopping points, in other words keep the suggestions coming.

EJK

27th March 2008, 23:14

Is this on every Wednesday?

Sellout

27th March 2008, 23:22

We thought about holding the Cruisy Wednesday Night Ride every Friday morning, but the majority of people wanted it earlier in the week..... :Pokey: :bleh: (PT)

It has been every Wednesday, and hoping to keep it going right throughout winter, we are hard Mainlanders who shrug off the cold dangerous winter conditions.... to go to the pub.

EJK

27th March 2008, 23:25

How long is the ride?

Mikkel

28th March 2008, 00:55

That depends upon how badly we get lost on the way home from the pub...

Rashika

28th March 2008, 04:08

That depends upon how badly we get lost on the way home from the pub...

and I guess whether you live in chch or not?

JWALKER

28th March 2008, 06:44

OMG..."on purpose" just like you suspected me or al least someone "on purpose" put oil in ya brake system Im sorry but this is getting a little strange and hard to believe, but wait theres more"the back of his car came up in the air" HAHAHAHAHAAAAA. fark man if that was the case you and ya bike would be dust, you should write for Mills n Boons

Sort ya head out sort ya bike out, relax and enjoy ya bike.

BTW: from what I have been told you wernt on the ride last night?

yes, i had been on the ride D, i was coming home with elliot.

well, there are three witness that saw the whole thing, including an aa roadside rescue truck. i did not see the cars end go up in the air, i was told it did by the aa roadside resuce driver, but, once again believe what you want d, even if three seperate witness agree about what happened

JWALKER

28th March 2008, 06:47

sorry to hear you got hit, odd that they would follow you for no reason at all tho JW.

hi rashika, we had left early, and rode back from akaroa just before dark, we passed deviant and phoenix on the akaroa hill as we were coming back down.

i think the guy took offense to me riding around him, after beibng cut-off, but i do not know for certain

JWALKER

28th March 2008, 06:48

what... who stuck oil in his brake system?

a bike shop in town, that has done work on my bike

Deviant Esq

28th March 2008, 06:57

Is this on every Wednesday?
Yes. We all meet at Burger King on Moorhouse Ave between 6pm and 6.30, aiming for a 6.30 departure.

How long is the ride?
Depends where we decide to go on the night. There are usually a few stops to let people catch up and for gasbagging etc... we're usually back in town aroundabout 9.30pm, so three hours from leaving to returning, but that includes the time stopped at the pub having some refreshments and more gasbagging :niceone:

Transalper

28th March 2008, 08:00

Is this on every Wednesday?
Why does nobody ever read post #1 in these kind of threads.
Surely you must know it's the post with the main info.

JMemonic

28th March 2008, 08:08

That depends upon how badly we get lost on the way home from the pub...

You get lost on the way home too huh ? There must be something in that refreshing liquid :apint: that causes that, I will have to investigate further but do not expect a report as I will have forgotten how to find my computer as well.

phoenixgtr

28th March 2008, 08:10

Yeah exactly. The number of times I've had to say "read the first post". Sadly this won't be the last

I like the idea of garage nights but they could be quite restrictive in terms of numbers

JMemonic

28th March 2008, 08:14

Yeah exactly. The number of times I've had to say "read the first post". Sadly this won't be the last

I like the idea of garage nights but they could be quite restrictive in terms of numbers

And would certainly not be every Wed night, well I hope not.

phoenixgtr

28th March 2008, 08:29

No. It might get a bit tedious

Transalper

28th March 2008, 11:41

hi rashika, we had left early, and rode back from akaroa just before dark, we passed deviant and phoenix on the akaroa hill as we were coming back down.

i think the guy took offense to me riding around him, after beibng cut-off, but i do not know for certain
I would tend to say you were on a ride but not this ride as you left from a different place at a different time and went to a different destination.
Dev and Phoenix left just before me from Duvauchelles but I didn't notice you go past. Maybe I was busy putting my lid on at the time.

I hope they throw the book at the driver, I imagine he got pissed at you for going round him while you were pissed at him for cutting you off. So it seems to me he started it and the law should finish it. But I doubt he'll learn. He's probably the kind of frustrating person even I would like to see smacked in the head as we fail to get through to them.

Deviant Esq

28th March 2008, 14:13

Dev and Phoenix left just before me from Duvauchelles but I didn't notice you go past. Maybe I was busy putting my lid on at the time.
We had left Little River and were heading towards Hilltop in the last of the evening light. We were negociating the long section of resealed road covered in loose stuff when I spotted him heading down the hill the other way (towards Little River)... didn't have a chance to wave as my hands were tied taking care of the bike in the gravel and half light, plus I didn't realise it was him until the last second as I noticed his distinctive bike. So, yes we saw him, but no, he wasn't with the group.

dangerous

28th March 2008, 17:31

Rashika

28th March 2008, 17:34

hehe... just noticed your wee smilie on the foot of your posts DE, very cool! ;)

Deviant Esq

28th March 2008, 18:26

hehe... just noticed your wee smilie on the foot of your posts DE, very cool! ;)
LOL cheers, quite nifty isn't it? Look at them go! :D

homer

28th March 2008, 18:37

sorry to hear you got hit, odd that they would follow you for no reason at all tho JW.
Didnt notice you on the KB ride, I'm guessing this was a different ride?

yeah must do that sometime, considering i live round the corner ;)

yep great idea

Transalper

28th March 2008, 19:39

....We were negociating the long section of resealed road covered in loose stuff when I spotted him heading down the hill the other way (towards Little River).......Ahh, I would have been getting all shook up somewhere on the way to the top of stock road then.

Rashika

28th March 2008, 19:55

Ahh, I would have been getting all shook up somewhere on the way to the top of stock road then.

hey now THATS a cool bit of road, maybe not on the Buell tho, but fun in the truck! ;)

Mikkel

28th March 2008, 19:58

LOL cheers, quite nifty isn't it? Look at them go! :D

You fight like a dairy farmer!

Bling to whoever catches up on that reference first and takes it further...

headlesschicken

28th March 2008, 20:29

how appropriate, you fight like a cow:bleh:

JMemonic

29th March 2008, 01:58

You fight like a dairy farmer!

Bling to whoever catches up on that reference first and takes it further...

Kinda along the lines of the favourite song of a certain cow meet in the middle of the rode a few weeks back, "don't fence me in".

Mikkel

30th March 2008, 22:18

how appropriate, you fight like a cow:bleh:

:niceone:

Awesome game that!

JWALKER

31st March 2008, 08:30

I would tend to say you were on a ride but not this ride as you left from a different place at a different time and went to a different destination.
Dev and Phoenix left just before me from Duvauchelles but I didn't notice you go past. Maybe I was busy putting my lid on at the time.

I hope they throw the book at the driver, I imagine he got pissed at you for going round him while you were pissed at him for cutting you off. So it seems to me he started it and the law should finish it. But I doubt he'll learn. He's probably the kind of frustrating person even I would like to see smacked in the head as we fail to get through to them.

yeah, i had left early with another rider and had planned to meet dev and phoenix at duvauchelles and then ride back, but, didnt realize how quickly it got dark, so we left duvauchelles early and rode back with a guy on a mv augusta (not sure how you spell it).

i will be leaving it the law, unfortunately i don't think the cops are taking it that serious.

MVnut

31st March 2008, 14:18

Yeah I tagged along on the Oro (Agusta by the way....apologies accepted) was a good run over the hill, then a Porsche wanted to go a bit quicker so after he passed the bikes I played tag for a while until he turned off. I think he thought he was going quick....:spanking:....lol. Waited for the boys then rode with them to Tai Tapu where I turned off.

dangerous

31st March 2008, 18:00

yeah, i had left early with another rider and had planned to meet dev and phoenix at duvauchelles and then ride back, but, didnt realize how quickly it got dark, so we left duvauchelles early and rode back with a guy on a mv augusta (not sure how you spell it).

i will be leaving it the law, unfortunately i don't think the cops are taking it that serious.

You mean you were on the NZSBF ride as it left from the same place as you at the same time as you... and umm yeah coppers dont give much of a shit about road rage, so which ride ya doing this week, im hoping to as long as the bloody dog dont do another runner on me.

helenoftroy

31st March 2008, 23:05

so which ride ya doing this week, im hoping to as long as the bloody dog dont do another runner on me.

Get that dog under control dangermouse, and come for a ride with us:wari:

Would be good to see you-really!!!:nya:

JWALKER

1st April 2008, 06:29

You mean you were on the NZSBF ride as it left from the same place as you at the same time as you... and umm yeah coppers dont give much of a shit about road rage, so which ride ya doing this week, im hoping to as long as the bloody dog dont do another runner on me.

yeah, went early to also let the guys on the kb ride how the road was and if it was worth riding over on, but, had innitally planned to ride back with the kb boys, but we left early coming back.
wont be going on any rides for awhile, due to the whole back of the bike being smashed up and in a repair shop in town getting repaired.

hope you have fun on the ride D

Sellout

1st April 2008, 10:57

Looks like the weather is gonna be good tomorrow, and I have repaired a few prob's with the Mighty Zong (lockwire in my breakdown kit now cheers Alex) so.....

Whos a comin', and where we goin'??

phoenixgtr

1st April 2008, 11:19

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 11:28

Liv and I are planning on being there.

Maybe a slightly shorter route - Godley House or we could finish at the Halswell pub, maybe via Dyers or Evans and over Gebbies, Old Tai Tapu rd? We haven't stopped at the Wheatsheaf for a long time. We could go out via Halswell and back over Gebbies. Theres a few options
Whichever we choose to do, if we plan to stop and eat at Godley House or the Wheatsheaf, we should contact those establishments beforehand to make sure they're still serving food by the time we arrive.

Personally I reckon we go over Dyers Pass road and up over the Summit road towards Gebbies Pass, down Gebbies to the pub on the corner, what's it called? The Black Tulip or something? Anyway, past that, back via Tai Tapu and meet up at the Halswell pub.

Thoughts? Dissentions? Abductions? Provocations? ;)

phoenixgtr

1st April 2008, 11:35

...and up over the Summit road towards Gebbies Pass...

This is the part that most people hate and won't do. That roads a shambles. Doesn't bother me, although I haven't seen the state of it for months. Last I heard it was littered with shingle and pot holes.

The rest sounds fine though

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 13:00

This is the part that most people hate and won't do. That roads a shambles. Doesn't bother me, although I haven't seen the state of it for months. Last I heard it was littered with shingle and pot holes.
I agree - you know I'm not a fan of this piece of road either, I regard it as a goat track myself - but there are people who seem to quite like it. As far as 'last you heard'... it always has been littered with pot holes and shingle as far back as my memory goes (which, granted, isn't that far). There's one particular corner descending into the forest which seems to always have a coating of sandy, gritty crap collected there - I've slid on this patch more than once. Sun and rain doesn't find its way down there, so the grit they put on the road over winter collects down there and doesn't wash away.

I was trying to think of alternatives to the route that people always seem to cry "boooring :yawn:" at - up Dyers Pass Road, down the other side, through Governors Bay, down through Teddington and past the Wheatsheaf onto Gebbies, etc - though I don't find it boring myself. :confused:

Maybe we could go north this week, then? :sleep:

Spuds1234

1st April 2008, 14:39

Wont be able to catch the start of the ride, but if I get out of work early enough I'll try and meet you guys where ever you happen to end up (assuming its not to far away).

Rashika

1st April 2008, 17:42

I'm one of those people who quite likes the summit road, and yes it is challenging everytime i ride it. But I love the views, and if I want a quick blowout on the nice day (even in early winter at times, tho it is slower due to the grit), it is awesome to go from one end (gebbies) to the other (sumner). Doesn't have to be quick, but if you manage to do it without crossing the centre too much (tho not many centre lines along it), then you can consider yourself a fairly capable rider, as it is NOT an easy piece of road.
ah well... i still like it ;)

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 18:06

I agree - you know I'm not a fan of this piece of road either, I regard it as a goat track myself - but there are people who seem to quite like it. As far as 'last you heard'... it always has been littered with pot holes and shingle as far back as my memory goes (which, granted, isn't that far). There's one particular corner descending into the forest which seems to always have a coating of sandy, gritty crap collected there - I've slid on this patch more than once. Sun and rain doesn't find its way down there, so the grit they put on the road over winter collects down there and doesn't wash away.

:shutup: how quickly one forgets what they were told less than 2yrs ago :oi-grr:
potholes are only a problem if you stare at them :yes:

I'm one of those people who quite likes the summit road, and yes it is challenging everytime i ride it. But I love the views, and if I want a quick blowout on the nice day (even in early winter at times, tho it is slower due to the grit), it is awesome to go from one end (gebbies) to the other (sumner). Doesn't have to be quick, but if you manage to do it without crossing the centre too much (tho not many centre lines along it), then you can consider yourself a fairly capable rider, as it is NOT an easy piece of road.
ah well... i still like it ;)

Exactly :first: the perfect road for sharpening skills & reactions to the unknown, and it doesn't have to be ridden at pace either.
The scenery is always worthwhile :yes:

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 18:50

:shutup: how quickly one forgets what they were told less than 2yrs ago :oi-grr:
potholes are only a problem if you stare at them :yes:
One hasn't forgotten what one was told less than two years ago... but one is still allowed to regard a given piece of road as a goat track™ ;)

Now that that point has been made, I don't mind the Summit Road, but I still regard it as a bit of a goat track™. But the fact is, the point has been made that most of the group don't like it (as Rashika's mentioned, it's not exactly newbie friendly™), and since this is still supposed to be a newbie friendly™ ride, we'll take that under advisement. I'm happy enough riding it, it doesn't cause me any major issues, but we'll see what the rest say.

dangerous

1st April 2008, 19:08

Now that that point has been made, I don't mind the Summit Road, but I still regard it as a bit of a goat track™. But the fact is, the point has been made that most of the group don't like it (as Rashika's mentioned, it's not exactly newbie friendly™), and since this is still supposed to be a newbie friendly™ ride, we'll take that under advisement. I'm happy enough riding it, it doesn't cause me any major issues, but we'll see what the rest say.

OHHHHHHhhhhhhhh crap, look the summit rd is one of the best bloody places to learn to ride on, it has most of the dangers possible to the biker kind, harden the fark up people and enjoy an awesome piece a road... if you can handle it at speed then you will be able to tackle most roads in NZ

I say tomorow night you lot head up to the summit rd via Sumner, ride the entire road (excluding the heads) down gebbies and into the halswell boozer...

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 19:09

Now that that point has been made, I don't mind the Summit Road, but I still regard it as a bit of a goat track™. But the fact is, the point has been made that most of the group don't like it (as Rashika's mentioned, it's not exactly newbie friendly™), and since this is still supposed to be a newbie friendly™ ride, we'll take that under advisement. I'm happy enough riding it, it doesn't cause me any major issues, but we'll see what the rest say.

:yawn: Both Rashika & I both said it doesn't have to be ridden at pace, which it doesn't to actually learn from that particular piece of road.
And as a fact it is far less populated by other users than any of the roads around the peninsula and if all things were tallied up it has claimed less victims than any other piece of road, people moaning about it are usually the ones who've tried to attack it and come away with their arses kicked.

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 19:12

OHHHHHHhhhhhhhh crap, look the summit rd is one of the best bloody places to learn to ride on, it has most of the dangers possible to the biker kind, harden the fark up people and enjoy a awesom piece a road... if you can handle it at speed then you will be able to takel most roads in NZ

:2thumbsup that is almost a perfect echo of what I told the young fella one afternoon sitting up there :cool:

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 19:13

:yawn:

Ya done?

You're both preaching to the already converted. ;) As I said - let's see what the rest say. :yes:

Mr Triple

1st April 2008, 19:14

It's a good run from one end to the other, but I would say the newer ones wouldn't like it. The view over the city on a clear night looks great.
The worst time to ride along it is the weekend when push bikes are about 65 wide and don't move over.
Would be a great ride for me on a wnr, but I'm happy to go wherever.:yes:

dangerous

1st April 2008, 19:19

It's a good run from one end to the other, but I would say the newer ones wouldn't like it.
Why not???

if anyone wouldnt like it I would have thought the biger faster bikes :mellow:

Rashika

1st April 2008, 19:27

One hasn't forgotten what one was told less than two years ago... but one is still allowed to regard a given piece of road as a goat track™ ;)

Now that that point has been made, I don't mind the Summit Road, but I still regard it as a bit of a goat track™. But the fact is, the point has been made that most of the group don't like it (as Rashika's mentioned, it's not exactly newbie friendly™), and since this is still supposed to be a newbie friendly™ ride, we'll take that under advisement. I'm happy enough riding it, it doesn't cause me any major issues, but we'll see what the rest say.

gotta correct you there DE... i never said it wasn't newbie friendly, BUT it does pay to be aware when riding it. It would actually be a good road for newbies, as long as they take there time and dont try to Valentino Rossi it.
And nah it aint a goat track at all, I'm sitting here and cant even think of any roads i would class as that now! They seem to be disapearing, hell Arthurs pass used to be that way... always scared me and THAT was in a car! (long before the viaduct and all that other stuff done to make it all so easy).
Try some of the other challenging roads like the karamea road, or Queen charlotte sound road: both are difficult roads due to weather/traffic/road surface/rain/debris/corners (one or 2!), but still have their positives (like the views on both), yet few would call them goat tracks... except maybe the Karamea road!
The summit road is nice cos there is not much traffic, and generally you can see if there is grit a long way off... and if you ride it fairly often then you know where the bits to watch are. And yep i know exactly the bit you talk about with grit, it does seem to be there summer or winter too.

The cruisy ride doesn't have to go any long distance, in fact shorter and slower would not be a bad thing. And then a wee blat back to Halswell via Motukorara... sweet!

fireliv

1st April 2008, 19:28

DOnt mind on the route, and would like to try summit road as I havent yet, but there is no way in hell I am doing it in the dark, or near the time of darkness. I aint stupid enough to try that. But hey if people are keen I dont see why we cant take it slow on the way to our destination, and come a different way back.

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 19:36

:yawn:

Ya done?

:argh: voice of inexperience

It's a good run from one end to the other, but I would say the newer ones wouldn't like it.

Newbies wont learn anything if they don't step out of their comfort zone once & while and the southern end from The Kiwi to Gebbies is 250 country over & over ;)

20+ years of riding all those roads on bikes from 125cc -1200cc taught me that

Spuds1234

1st April 2008, 19:40

Try some of the other challenging roads like the karamea road both are difficult roads due to weather/traffic/road surface/rain/debris/corners (one or 2!), but still have their positives (like the views on both), yet few would call them goat tracks... except maybe the Karamea road!

Thats one awesome road.

I went over it to Karamea at a cruise and fanged back over it real quick (atleast I think I was going fast). Bloody great road, 200kms of fun from Westport to Karamea and back to Westport.

The straight bits at the end are really good for winding open the throttle to. Just have to make sure there arnt any farmers herding sheep down the road first.

homer

1st April 2008, 19:44

riding in the dark is quite fun . if your careful .
especially on the hills.
But you really need and rely on your full beam lighting , which is hard when you following

Mr Triple

1st April 2008, 19:48

Why not???

if anyone wouldnt like it I would have thought the biger faster bikes :mellow:

I think it's a great road to learn on, what I meant was the newer ones don't seem to like using it.

dangerous

1st April 2008, 19:48

:argh: voice of inexperience

Newbies wont learn anything if they don't step out of their comfort zone once & while and the southern end from The Kiwi to Gebbies is 250 country over & over ;)

20+ years of riding all those roads on bikes from 125cc -1200cc taught me that

Amen... ya old fart.

Thats one awesome road.

I went over it to Karamea at a cruise and fanged back over it real quick (atleast I think I was going fast). Bloody great road, 200kms of fun from Westport to Karamea and back to Westport.

The straight bits at the end are really good for winding open the throttle to. Just have to make sure there arnt any farmers herding sheep down the road first.

awesome... yip but very tricky to, I didnt like it so much with the debri, holes, moss etc every corner was something different and thats what I did like but IMHO on the day I did it.. its a goat track, dont mean its bad.

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 19:54

:argh: voice of inexperience
:Playnice: No need for personal shots. I may be less experienced, but that does not mean my comments are any less valid.

Also, at the risk of starting a squabble (would rather not), just because you (and dangerous) are very experienced does not mean you are somehow transformed into biking gods, making your opinions any more valid than the rest of ours. We're all here to ride our own ride - hell, that's why we ride bikes - not to be told where to ride and how to do it.

You and dangerous (are the main antagonists, but there are and always will be others) are at great pains to remind some of us that we're inexperienced and seemingly know nothing, totally at odds to the fact that I've ridden with neither of you recently, in any kind of setting. dangerous reckons I've bitten off more than I can chew with the ZX-6R, and you reckon I won't listen to a word you say, and keep trying to make me eat humble pie. Well guess what? While I'm not as experienced as you, nor am I a baby and I don't expect to be treated as such just for being younger, which I suspect is the main reason - you see me as a kid.

dangerous

1st April 2008, 19:55

I think it's a great road to learn on, what I meant was the newer ones don't seem to like using it.

because as said... it takes them from their safe invirment of what they know to something new... and by beating that issue is the best way to learn

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 19:57

dangerous

1st April 2008, 19:59

:Playnice: No need for personal shots. I may be less experienced, but that does not mean my comments are any less valid.

Also, at the risk of starting a squabble (would rather not), just because you (and dangerous) are very experienced does not mean you are somehow transformed into biking gods, making your opinions any more valid than the rest of ours. We're all here to ride our own ride - hell, that's why we ride bikes - not to be told where to ride and how to do it.

You and dangerous (are the main antagonists, but there are and always will be others) are at great pains to remind some of us that we're inexperienced and seemingly know nothing, totally at odds to the fact that I've ridden with neither of you recently, in any kind of setting. dangerous reckons I've bitten off more than I can chew with the ZX-6R, and you reckon I won't listen to a word you say, and keep trying to make me eat humble pie. Well guess what? While I'm not as experienced as you, nor am I a baby and I don't expect to be treated as such just for being younger, which I suspect is the main reason - you see me as a kid.

FFS man... we aint no gods that is your words, what we are is alive and enjoying life and bikes, we both want to see the same of new riders inculding ya self, now chill anything TWR and myself post is NOT a personal shot at you... christ man will you not get that through ya head (OMG I sound like my step father)

PS: your rep re going from a 250 single to a 600 not that biger jump.... well look at it in horse power then, and you tell me... I dont have that HP now even ;)

fireliv

1st April 2008, 20:01

Look just cut it out everyone.

Thanks for everyones response, and in the end if a route can not be sorted out on here, then it will be sorted out by those who show up tomorrow night and even if a route is sorted here it is still subject to change, so if you really feel that strong about it, then show up 2morrow and voice your opinion there.

On the downside I dont know about you lot but the weather just took a real dive out there.....

Phoenix is out on his mountain bike at the mo, I'm sure he is having a blast!!

Sellout

1st April 2008, 20:05

Right then boys & girls, if that's over and done with..... :girlfight:

The Summit Road from Sumner to Sign of the Kiwi is a cracker of a road. :Punk: That's where I have been doing a lot of my practise recently, and the next section down to Gebbies can be good or can be poor depending on the nomral things (traffic, road debris) but I'll admit is in worse condition and much tighter than the first stretch.

Perhaps one contingent could drop down to Governers from the Sign for those not comfy with the Sign-Gebbies and we can all meet up at the Halswell? Or the Black Tulip (?) at the Gebbies-Akaroa Road intersection then onto Halswell :apint:

My 2cents (plus GST)!

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 20:06

You and dangerous (are the main antagonists, but there are and always will be others) are at great pains to remind some of us that we're inexperienced and seemingly know nothing, totally at odds to the fact that I've ridden with neither of you recently, in any kind of setting. dangerous reckons I've bitten off more than I can chew with the ZX-6R, and you reckon I won't listen to a word you say, and keep trying to make me eat humble pie. Well guess what? While I'm not as experienced as you, nor am I a baby and I don't expect to be treated as such just for being younger, which I suspect is the main reason - you see me as a kid.

Actually Ryan in terms of biking you are still a :baby: so instead of blowing your trumpet like such just pull your horns in. And as for not having ridden with you recently ??? who the hell was following you through from Governor's bay to Allendale not that long ago mmm?? remember the couple of PMs late last week???

You aren't any KID so stop thinking like one, try and see the big picture Dangerous & I are trying to show you & others instead of BLINDLY getting overly defensive!

Subike

1st April 2008, 20:09

well
the hills at night are fun, with experiance, daunting when new,
thats why I suggested lower styx road for a quiet ride,
twisty enough for the 250's to enjoy, a pub at the end and well lit roads home at the end.
but yeah that summit road has always been a really good ride, day or night

Mr Triple

1st April 2008, 20:10

On the downside I dont know about you lot but the weather just took a real dive out there.....

Phoenix is out on his mountain bike at the mo, I'm sure he is having a blast!!

Just starting to piss down out here in Rangiora, gees I wouldn't want to be out there on a mountain bike.:shit:

Transalper

1st April 2008, 20:11

....would like to try summit road as I havent yet, but there is no way in hell I am doing it in the dark....Then this week might be the last chance to do it on a Wednesday evening before the darkness closes in.

dangerous

1st April 2008, 20:13

Look just cut it out everyone.

Cut what out... this is a forum we are foruming, the likes of you and Dev have problems with being helped, so be it. I have offered you advice it has been snobbed... no worries. Dev I can see potential thats why I perservere, nothing is personal... ya see...

I wish I had some know it all bastard to help me when I was green, but I didnt I learnt the hard way, now Id like to see all you guys blossem (ok gay word but you know what I mean) so I will say what I think... and above all, I want to see you guys enjoy and survive an excess off 200,000 k's of riding just like I have, I musta got something right huh?

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 20:23

And as for not having ridden with you recently ??? who the hell was following you through from Governor's bay to Allendale not that long ago mmm?? remember the couple of PMs late last week???
Yes, of course I remember those. That was for one short stretch, on one ride, in a 50km zone, before you overtook and carried on at a brisker pace than my 250 could manage. I wouldn't say that counts for too much in the grander scheme of things, would you? I meant that both you and dangerous are happy to tell me all about my 'ability' level, without having actually ridden with me for any decent stretch any time recently. I know I haven't been riding all that long when compared with you guys, but you prejudge without seeing for yourselves. I'm really not quite as bad as you might think... I've seen a few guys trying much harder to arse up, that's for sure!

PS: your rep re going from a 250 single to a 600 not that biger jump.... well look at it in horse power then, and you tell me... I dont have that HP now even ;)
It's not a big a jump as many have made... and about the same as the majority have made. That, and it's different for everyone. I've found it to be great so far, docile enough, but enough horse power when you mean it to make you pay attention to what you're doing. I remind myself every time I go out on the ZX-6R that it's not the NZ250 and to think accordingly. ;)

Your bike doesn't have as much HP as mine? Hmm. Specs says that mine supposedly makes 107hp @ 12000rpm (at the flywheel). Since when did a tractor need 100hp huh?! :dodge: :bleh: Just pissing with ya of course, I'd quite like a crack on a Guzzi...

fireliv

1st April 2008, 20:24

Cut what out... this is a forum we are foruming, the likes of you and Dev have problems with being helped, so be it. I have offered you advice it has been snobbed... no worries. Dev I can see potential thats why I perservere, nothing is personal... ya see...

I wish I had some know it all bastard to help me when I was green, but I didnt I learnt the hard way, now Id like to see all you guys blossem (ok gay word but you know what I mean) so I will say what I think... and above all, I want to see you guys enjoy and survive an excess off 200,000 k's of riding just like I have, I musta got something right huh?

Just for you dangerous I will repeat what I was trying to get through.. ready?

If you feel strongly about the route, then by all means come along tomorrow instead of everyone getting the wrong end of the stick on here. Yes I personally find your pearls of wisdom lacking, but I'm sure there are some people who think you are the founder of all knowledge so talk to them.

See you tomorrow night then

dangerous

1st April 2008, 20:28

It's not a big a jump as many have made... and about the same as the majority have made. That, and it's different for everyone. I've found it to be great so far, docile enough, but enough horse power when you mean it to make you pay attention to what you're doing. I remind myself every time I go out on the ZX-6R that it's not the NZ250 and to think accordingly. ;)

Your bike doesn't have as much HP as mine? Hmm. Specs says that mine supposedly makes 107hp @ 12000rpm (at the flywheel). Since when did a tractor need 100hp huh?! :dodge: :bleh: Just pissing with ya of course, I'd quite like a crack on a Guzzi...

Well Dev, last WNR I believe you nearly kissed the front of an oncomming car, and was passing passing in a 50k zone with SFA visability... think about it.

your bike 107hp and about 200kilos... mine 83hp and 1/4 of a ton, and ill ride the arse off bikes with twice the power to weight ratio, do you get what Im saying yet?

Night ya all Im buggered see yas's on line tomorow.

PS: fireliv... Im not even going to bother.

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 20:41

Well Dev, last WNR I believe you nearly kissed the front of an oncomming car, after passing in a 50k zone... think about it.
Not too sure where you got that from - I had no such incidents, nothing even remotely close to that kind of thing - I had a good ride and didn't have any incidents or close calls. If someone told you about that, I'm sorry, but I don't think it was me. :confused:

your bike 107hp and about 200kilos... mine 83hp and 1/4 of a ton, and ill ride the arse off bikes with twice the power to weight ratio, do you get what Im saying yet?
Course, I've got what you're saying the whole way through. I know yours makes less hp and weighs more (stats page I looked up says 91hp... what you been feeding yours?! ;)), but they're actually not too far apart (107hp vs 91hp but 50% more torque, 226kg dry vs 203kg). Difference is the Kwaka doesn't make much in the lower half of the rev range and only gets cranking if you're willing to rev it, i.e. ask it to get going, on account of having much less torque than the Guzzi... and I haven't revved it that hard yet. I'm careful to keep it sensible until I get used to it. Have a go on it one day if ya keen, it's pretty docile. :niceone:

dangerous

1st April 2008, 20:49

Course, I've got what you're saying the whole way through. I know yours makes less hp and weighs more (stats page I looked up says 91hp... what you been feeding yours?! ;)), but they're actually not too far apart (107hp vs 91hp but 50% more torque, 226kg dry vs 203kg). Difference is the Kwaka doesn't make much in the lower half of the rev range and only gets cranking if you're willing to rev it, i.e. ask it to get going, on account of having much less torque than the Guzzi... and I haven't revved it that hard yet. I'm careful to keep it sensible until I get used to it. Have a go on it one day if ya keen, it's pretty docile. :niceone:

Fark ya.. I was on my way to bed man...
Good man ya done ye homework, 91hp at the crank, 83 at the rear... re yur machine now it aint docile... but your respect for it is good... hear me I said GOOD, thats a good thing

Not too sure where you got that from - I had no such incidents, nothing even remotely close to that kind of thing - I had a good ride and didn't have any incidents or close calls. If someone told you about that, I'm sorry, but I don't think it was me. :confused:

You dont remember the BIG right hander after the turn off to living springs... then a short straight to a leftie, well you passsed on that straight and from what I hear it was close as you aborted and pulled back in, maybe you made it but either way it was close.

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 20:55

You dont remember the BIG right hander after the turn off to living springs... then a short straight to a leftie, well you passsed on that straight and from what I hear it was close as you aborted and pulled back in, maybe you made it but either way it was close.
Oh yeah, I remember that - I was overtaking Rashika coming into that 70km/h stretch up the hill. There were two ugly bugly 4WDs in front of her, and I overtook one of those in the same stretch as overtaking her, but I knew I wouldn't have enough room to overtake the 2nd one before getting too close to the corner, so I came back into the left lane, splitting the two 4WDs. It wasn't an aborted maneuver, I did it exactly as I planned... and there still wasn't anything coming the other way when I pulled back into the left lane - something might've come around the corner afterwards though. I can understand it might've looked like a close call, but from what I remember it wasn't. There wasn't much room between the two 4WDs, for sure, but there was enough, and the one I had passed saw what I was doing and made sure I had room - nice gesture from the driver.

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 21:03

Yes, of course I remember those. That was for one short stretch, on one ride, in a 50km zone, before you overtook and carried on at a brisker pace than my 250 could manage. I wouldn't say that counts for too much in the grander scheme of things, would you? I meant that both you and dangerous are happy to tell me all about my 'ability' level, without having actually ridden with me for any decent stretch any time recently. I know I haven't been riding all that long when compared with you guys, but you prejudge without seeing for yourselves. I'm really not quite as bad as you might think... I've seen a few guys trying much harder to arse up, that's for sure!

:pinch: We're not thinking your as bad as you may believe or nor are we doubting your abilities. As it is one doesn't have to travel countless kms to gauge what another rider is like, but watching you through that area did show me what I told you in that PM and as a point of safety for yourself it's something you have to work on.

Remember it was me who got you in contact with Nudez to get the NZ firstly, ironed out some of the issues with it, spat the dumby at the others on the 1st ride you were taken on and left to fend for yourself instead of being kept close, got you parts for zip when you binned. So never think I'm trying to shoot you down, I've got your best interests at heart :niceone:

It's just a shame that because of my work schedule & only being a 3 man team at work, and due to time & distance to actually get to a WNR regularly is an impossibility.

One bearing on what D & I try to get through to the WNR regulars is prior to these happening there have been quite a few posted & non posted rides all in the same areas almost without mishaps yet once the WNRs came along the mishaps have increased in regularity.

As for riding any particular distance with you, I'll be in touch soon about mapping out a route for a group ride particularly aimed at the newer riders & smaller capacity bikes and it'll be a bit further afield than around the playground

phoenixgtr

1st April 2008, 21:04

Just starting to piss down out here in Rangiora, gees I wouldn't want to be out there on a mountain bike.:shit:

I got a little wet. Bloody good fun though, a dirt track through a forest, in the dark with a light on your head in the pouring rain with lightning flashes every few minutes.

Good stuff!!

Anyway, we'll decide on the route depending on whos there tomorrow.

homer

1st April 2008, 21:22

are there a few riding sat this weekend
just if anyones arnt going to wed night ride and want to go for a ride sat . pm me

its kinda work dependant for me , but hope to get out sat
maybe a short bit of a ride in chch or somewhere you may have in mind .

Not fast , will be 2 up

Lil'M

1st April 2008, 21:22

:Playnice: No need for personal shots. I may be less experienced, but that does not mean my comments are any less valid.

Also, at the risk of starting a squabble (would rather not), just because you (and dangerous) are very experienced does not mean you are somehow transformed into biking gods, making your opinions any more valid than the rest of ours. We're all here to ride our own ride - hell, that's why we ride bikes - not to be told where to ride and how to do it.

You and dangerous (are the main antagonists, but there are and always will be others) are at great pains to remind some of us that we're inexperienced and seemingly know nothing, totally at odds to the fact that I've ridden with neither of you recently, in any kind of setting. dangerous reckons I've bitten off more than I can chew with the ZX-6R, and you reckon I won't listen to a word you say, and keep trying to make me eat humble pie. Well guess what? While I'm not as experienced as you, nor am I a baby and I don't expect to be treated as such just for being younger, which I suspect is the main reason - you see me as a kid.

I've heard riding advice from all directions, and when your a learner people try to HELP you become a good and safe rider so deal with it. Dont take the defense that you know it all better than those who have been doing what we're all doing for a hell of a lot longer than you, think it's called ignorance. Im half D's age (hehehe sorry ya old fart) as well as others, and I dont see it as being treated as a kid, just friends that dont wanna see their friends in a coffin.
I've done alot of riding with the 'main culprits' of all this bitching, get scorned for doing stupid passes, riding over the centre line, little things we all do, and im glad they do its made me a better/safer rider. It doesnt mean smile, nod and do everything your told, even just gives you something to think about.. nor are they trying to say they're perfect, so why take such offense?
Why not prove your not a kid, if you choose not to take a piece of advice its not an issue we dont all need to hear about it.
"not to be told where to ride and how to do it". sounds like a rebellious teenager. famous last words dont you think?

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 21:22

re yur machine now it aint docile... but your respect for it is good...
More docile than phoenix's machine... having ridden his bike from the Wheatsheaf to Little River, there's a smallish but quite noticeable difference between the two machines, engine response wise. Partially his aftermarket end can, but also his being in a better state of tune - it just goes better than mine, and I definitely had to respect it, more so than I have to with mine. My carbs are in need of a bit of a tune and perhaps a clean too (excuse for new end can, anyone? :whistle:), they're a bit fluffy and annoying under about 7000rpm. It's a bit of a pain actually, it faffs around a bit if there aren't enough revs on the clock! :doh:

Sorry, will let you go to bed! :o

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 21:27

"not to be told where to ride and how to do it". sounds like a rebellious teenager. famous last words dont you think?
I know what you're saying, and yes, have heard it from that type of person and they have unfortunately turned out to be famous last words. I'm not going to try to explain m'self to your whole post - I know what I've meant even if it maybe comes across a little differently - but suffice to say, I know what you're getting at. I'm no rebellious teenager, quite glad I'm past that part, actually. Insurance companies treat you better when you're older! :devil2:

Transalper

1st April 2008, 21:29

are there a few riding sat this weekend...Why not start a new thread for that.

Sellout

1st April 2008, 21:30

...mapping out a route for a group ride particularly aimed at the newer riders & smaller capacity bikes and it'll be a bit further afield than around the playground

Make sure you post it up here, I'm always keen for something extra, and lord knows I can use the pointers!!! :2thumbsup

On ya!

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 21:35

Remember it was me who got you in contact with Nudez to get the NZ firstly, ironed out some of the issues with it, spat the dumby at the others on the 1st ride you were taken on and left to fend for yourself instead of being kept close, got you parts for zip when you binned. So never think I'm trying to shoot you down, I've got your best interests at heart :niceone:
Believe me, it's very much appreciated. You did heaps of work on the little old NZ for me... all I did was hold stuff and try to be useful. I'd have been a bit stuck without ya - I had no idea what I was doing! You'll be happy to know that I've given the brakes a good going over on the ZX-6R (credit to phoenix for showing me how it's done though) - they weren't in a very good way when I got it, but nice new pads all 'round, and nicely bled lines all 'round with new fluid... 50 times better. It sure is a shame you've got such a busy schedule - I'd like to be able to call on your Kwaka carb expertise too, but I realise you're a busy man :niceone:

I'd like to be able to ride with you as well, continue to learn stuff - and have you less bored now that my bike's not so teensy any more ;) - but yeah, with you being busy and stuff, well, I'm doing me best trying to make sure I keep on learning stuff anyway. :)

homer

1st April 2008, 21:37

Why not start a new thread for that.

um just cause its specifically targeted at those on this thread
since i only know a few of you .
Did it matter

Transalper

1st April 2008, 21:41

...
Did it matternot especially.
Carry on, as you were...

homer

1st April 2008, 21:44

not especially.
Carry on, as you were.

cheers man

sorry i just thought a new thread seemd pointless .
and didnt think it would be off topic at all
you riding tom night

Transalper

1st April 2008, 21:53

cheers man

sorry i just thought a new thread seemd pointless .
and didnt think it would be off topic at all
you riding tom night
I kind of thought the invite would get buried by the weekend.
I will possibly go again tomorrow, depends how the day at work progresses, or what time I get away.
Weather forecast looks good for tomorrow, maybe a little cooler but nice otherwise.

homer

1st April 2008, 21:55

sounds sweet . doubt ill make it but willl try in a couple weeks or 3

T.W.R

1st April 2008, 21:56

Make sure you post it up here, I'm always keen for something extra, and lord knows I can use the pointers!!!

On ya!

It will be in due course ;)

And it'll well within the capabilities of the smaller bikes and less experienced riders and those who do come along on it will have an enjoyable time and come away having learnt a few things.

:rolleyes: done the majority of the south island many years ago on a XT250 including rallies etc and also did a 1000km trip to Huntly on XL250 so know exactly what smaller bikes are capable of achieving.

Believe me, it's very much appreciated. You did heaps of work on the little old NZ for me... all I did was hold stuff and try to be useful. I'd have been a bit stuck without ya - I had no idea what I was doing! You'll be happy to know that I've given the brakes a good going over on the ZX-6R (credit to phoenix for show me how it's done though) - they weren't in a very good way when I got it, but nice new pads all 'round, and nicely bled lines all 'round with new fluid... 50 times better. It sure is a shame you've got such a busy schedule - I'd like to be able to call on your Kwaka carb expertise too, but I realise you're a busy man

I'd like to be able to ride with you as well, continue to learn stuff - and have you less bored now that my bike's not so teensy any more - but yeah, with you being busy and stuff, well, I'm doing me best trying to make sure I keep on learning stuff anyway.

:lol: you should have been peering over my shoulder when the ZXR was in a million bits :pinch:
doing bits on the NZ wasn't a problem, most of it was fairly straight forward and you learnt a bit or two I hope :cool:

The carbs on the ZX will be a piece of piss, just have to see exactly what it's doing and we'll get it sharp for you.

Never bored bud, just the old ZXR is a down right pigmy-fark when it's playing docile :lol:
having two muppets here to keep an eye doesn't make life easy :pinch:

DrJekyll

1st April 2008, 22:11

Then this week might be the last chance to do it on a Wednesday evening before the darkness closes in.

So.... having fished through the slightly tense messages of the last few pages.. i didn't manage to see anything about actual plans for tomorrow night..
are people going for it??

and for the record... i rode in that wet tonight... bit of a baptism by fire for the uninitiated in the rain - was interesting!! I'm such a newbie!! :baby:

have a good night, guys and girls

homer

1st April 2008, 22:13

So.... having fished through the slightly tense messages of the last few pages.. i didn't manage to see anything about actual plans for tomorrow night..
are people going for it??

and for the record... i rode in that wet tonight... bit of a baptism by fire for the uninitiated in the rain - was interesting!! I'm such a newbie!! :baby:

have a good night, guys and girls

yep the wet is another thing to ride in
like wind

DrJekyll

1st April 2008, 22:15

yep the wet is another thing to ride in
like wind

ooh... bastard! bring up that wind again HAHAHA :calm:

homer

1st April 2008, 22:19

oops
lol
i hate the wet , not cause you get wet and cold etc
i just hate the fact that it takes so long to clean the bike

Sellout

1st April 2008, 22:21

I had just finished stripping the fuel system down after a repair job to the carb inlet "gasket" (if you can call it that.....) fuel lines and various bolts and thought I'd go for a quick blat to check all was well... 10 minutes from home, out on Johns Road and WHAM... nailed something fierce by the rain!!! And greasy-as-a-pig-at-a-Cletus-family-reunion roads were something nasty!!

Never had the stepout on the lines, or for that fact the whole road before!! I was a very slow, very wet boy by the time I got home!!

Dr-Jekyll, come on down to BK, there is a ride, just not definite where! And that is half the fun! Better polish that chrome first tho... don't wanna get all rusty from the rain!! (pt)

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 22:21

So.... having fished through the slightly tense messages of the last few pages.. i didn't manage to see anything about actual plans for tomorrow night..
are people going for it??
Tense? :confused:
Nah, we're all just testing out our new bombarding techniques to see if the enemies' defenses are keeping up with our assault methods.... purely training and educational stuff that is, keeps you sharp... :Pokey: :whistle:

A route hasn't been confirmed yet, but presuming the weather's a bit nicer than what it's been tonight, we'll still be going for a ride. Like transalper says, last chance to get one in before daylight savings packs it in for another 6 months and plunges us into darkness... :weep:

Sellout

1st April 2008, 22:23

i just hate the fact that it takes so long to clean the bike

Clean the bike??? I threw a towel over the seat... that's about the extent for the Mighty Zong... (I had put some degreaser on the back end tonight, so the rain actually helped!) :clap:

homer

1st April 2008, 22:25

maybe i need a towel for it
still wont clean it unless i help it .
lol

Deviant Esq

1st April 2008, 22:33

maybe i need a towel for it
still wont clean it unless i help it .
I never cleaned my old bike... at least, not with much effort anyway, in the more than two years that I've owned it. Have owned the ZX-6R a week, and already it's had a thorough wash. Came out looking so much better for it - you wouldn't believe how much crap had accumulated on parts of it, it was filthy! Looks much better now... and goes better too, with the brakes getting a good cleanout and scrub :niceone:

MyGSXF

1st April 2008, 22:44

Hang in there a bit longer guys... :niceone: the training course is coming up..:soon: you're sooo gunna love it! :wari:

Sellout

1st April 2008, 22:58

I know, I was planning some business trips and saw the date (again) today in the diary, I'm all keen!

In the meantime its as much bike time as I can get!! Alone or in a group.

Don't know how good it is in the long term for the bike, but it gets the water blaster every now and then due to my oil catch pipe on the chain.... A few people saw it in Little River last week, it has gotten a lot better so I think the oil was a little too full!!

Rashika

2nd April 2008, 04:30

Oh yeah, I remember that - I was overtaking Rashika coming into that 70km/h stretch up the hill. There were two ugly bugly 4WDs in front of her, and I overtook one of those in the same stretch as overtaking her...
yeah that was the bit but here is where the inexperience is talking... and i will use that word as it is apt. Perhaps you need to pause a moment before trying to overtake another rider and just see why they haven't passed. There could be a reason... like a car they have seen and you have not, as in this case. I saw a car approaching long before you passed the first vehicle, and I think you were in front of me from earlier, and behind bent52 at the time. I decided to wait, as who knows how fast the car may be coming thru. You did suddenly swerve back between the cars and were lucky they made room for you. Patience will serve you better in the long run.
And yes I have made the same mistakes at times... believe me i still remember those moments, I guess there is some bonus to having a very torquey bike. And 107Hp is quite a jump from the NZ, makes it same Hp as mine, tho yours is 30kgs heavier (actually THAT does surprises me... maybe the fairings are weighty? ) No-one thinks you are a lousy rider DE, I think you are fine.

I'd like to be able to ride with you as well, continue to learn stuff - and have you less bored now that my bike's not so teensy any more ;)
and this bit DOES annoy me... EVERYONE has to ride a 250 or less initially, its life, EVERYONE else who rides accepts that and no-one i have ever talked to denegrates a 250rider or their bike, yet you do it to yourself?? many times on KB.
The NZ has far more get up and go than a few other learner bikes, and is certainly capable of staying with most bikes at legalish speeds, so why put it down?

Don't know how good it is in the long term for the bike, but it gets the water blaster every now and then due to my oil catch pipe on the chain.... A few people saw it in Little River last week, it has gotten a lot better so I think the oil was a little too full!!
Ah well is was fun bike to follow over dyers pass and you were certainly riding it fine ;)

Deviant Esq

2nd April 2008, 07:49

You did suddenly swerve back between the cars and were lucky they made room for you.
I really don't remember it being anything like as close as you tell it, and while you've said here I "did suddenly swerve back", my memory quite clearly tells me that there was no swerving involved and I filtered back in. Like I said, might've looked close, but really wasn't.

tho yours is 30kgs heavier (actually THAT does surprises me... maybe the fairings are weighty? ) No-one thinks you are a lousy rider DE, I think you are fine.
:yes:

I think this is where people get their knickers in a twist a bit, thinking it's such a big step - they're thinking of it as much lighter than it is. That 203kg is the dry weight too, probably nearly 250kg in 'ready to ride' trim. The sports 600 class back then was all trying to make more power, and didn't care quite so much about the weight. They've only started getting quite a bit lighter in the last few years, but back when mine was made they weren't all that light. It's only 20kg or so lighter than Dangerous' Guzzi, that's saying something.

For me, the power isn't something that's caught me off guard (that, and 107hp at the crank? Not at the moment, with the carbs needing a tune)... I find that, compared to the NZ, I more have to be aware of the extra weight in low speed maneuvering, like in car parks, walking the bike around, or stopping at the lights, stuff like that. But, I'm always mindful of it, so it hasn't caught me out.

and this bit DOES annoy me...

*snip*

The NZ has far more get up and go than a few other learner bikes, and is certainly capable of staying with most bikes at legalish speeds, so why put it down?
:confused:

Hang on just a tick - I wasn't putting the NZ down at all. I was just teasing T.W.R - we'd joked in the past that the ZXR750 doesn't like "pootling", it's annoyed, a wild animal champing at the bit wanting to be released, and following the old NZ around was making it grumpy.... but the whole point is, I was joking. Sure, I was getting tired of being on a little bike after so long, but I also constantly said it was an awesome bike to learn on and a great bike for me... I had people say stuff like "geez that thing can go, I couldn't stay with you!" :rolleyes:

Put it to you this way - I didn't do what most others my age and younger did (and are still doing), and buy an upgrade bike well before getting my full licence... indeed, I actually didn't buy the ZX-6R for nearly 5 months after getting my full, so I was on the 250 much longer than many. I don't hate the NZ (or any other 250s or their riders)... it's just great to finally be able to overtake uphill!! :lol:

Trudes

2nd April 2008, 08:03

At least DE you didn't do what a lot of people much younger than you do, get full licence, immediately buy GSXR 1000 (or similar) and promply go out and ride it like a mad arse, bin it and hurt yourself or worse, kill yourself.:(

phoenixgtr

2nd April 2008, 08:18

That 203kg is the dry weight too...

It is not. The dry weight's 185kg (according to the genuine owners manual anyway)

Deviant Esq

2nd April 2008, 08:25

It is not. The dry weight's 185kg (according to the genuine owners manual anyway)
Ah, whoops. I'm used to the only weight figures being quoted as dry weight figures - the website I used to get that weight actually says "weight (incl. oil, gas etc): 203kg". My mistake. Okay, so it's 185kg dry then, that makes a little more sense, I thought 203kg seemed a bit porky! :sweatdrop

Here's the page (http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/kawasaki_zx-6r_ninja_1999.php) I got it from.

DrJekyll

2nd April 2008, 15:21

weather's looking good for tonight, fresh but good light :)

MVnut

2nd April 2008, 16:07

So where is the ride going tonight??

fireliv

2nd April 2008, 16:24

Summit Rd is a possiblity to be tabled at the carpark.

In other words will be finally decided at carpark by whoever shows up

MVnut

2nd April 2008, 16:27

Can't make the carpark so if I c u i c u:doh:

fireliv

2nd April 2008, 16:32

Can't make the carpark so if I c u i c u:doh:

If you want Phoenix to send you a txt of the route then PM hiom your cell and he will if you like.

Phoenixgtr

Mr Triple

2nd April 2008, 16:39

Yea I'm not going to make it to night now:bye: So all have a good ride catch up next time:yes:

MVnut

2nd April 2008, 16:55

If you want Phoenix to send you a txt of the route then PM hiom your cell and he will if you like.

Phoenixgtr

Dangerous is going to text me:shit:..... ta anyway

cruza

2nd April 2008, 18:02

:argh: lol well I was coming tonight ...finally ,then I noticed my warrant ran out 2 weeks ago, quess I know what im doing on sat morning ! Hope you guys enjoyed the last daylight savings run.

Busaboy

2nd April 2008, 18:07

Well haven't been able to get out to a WNR for a few weeks now, been spending the last few weeks jet setting to the north island and back again and of again next week monday and tuesday so hope to get out there for a WNR next week, hope who ever went tonight had a good ride, could had done with it myself if i had the time to get out for a :ride:

dangerous

2nd April 2008, 20:12

Just for you dangerous I will repeat what I was trying to get through.. ready? na... still dont get it, try again<_<

If you feel strongly about the route, then by all means come along tomorrow instead of everyone getting the wrong end of the stick on here. Yes I personally find your pearls of wisdom lacking, but I'm sure there are some people who think you are the founder of all knowledge so talk to them.

See you tomorrow night then Thanks for the invite.... SO WHO WANTS A GOOD OLD FEED A FARKING CRITICISM, FROM GOD OF MOTORCYCLING HIMSELF :woohoo:

T.W.R

2nd April 2008, 20:17

na... still dont get it, try again<_<

Thanks for the invite.... SO WHO WANTS A GOOD OLD FEED A FARKING CRITICISM, FROM GOD OF MOTORCYCLING HIMSELF :woohoo:

:lol:Could be the Devil :devil2:& the Devil's advocate :stoogie:

Deviant Esq

2nd April 2008, 20:27

Well, I thought it was quite a good ride tonight. The Summit Road was quite clear for a change, and apart from the chilliness (thank god for hot grips! :bleh:), I quite enjoyed myself. Haven't done the full length of the Summit for a while, but yeah, that was good :)

Helen - I'll beep next time, okay? ;)

JMemonic

2nd April 2008, 21:15

Well folks was nice to see everyone who was able to get out for the last ride before daylight savings ends, it was a shame a few more could not make it.

The summit road seems to have been a great success judging by comments and is no doubt a valuable learning ride, we really could not have asked for a better night having been treated to a great sunset and chilly but clear conditions.

Mentioned tonight was the fact that a workshop has been organised for a spanner evening with a fair amount of interest shown, it would be good if we can agree to a date and perhaps start working on finding out what folks want to learn, if we need then another thread can be started for this.

The Halswell pub was a nice destination stop and we could use that in the future, they seem to be hospitable and had a good range of food on offer so if anyone has route suggestions for perhaps shorter rides finishing here then please out them forward.

Thank D for offering to help push me off the bike, I was worse getting back on then trying to get off when I got home was a mission.

Ghost_Bullet

2nd April 2008, 21:30

Had hoped that I could have got a ride out, mentioned it to Mrs Bullet when I arrived in from work.... but the smell of roast lamb was overpowering, and that seduced me to remain home bound.
Bugger bugger. The 07-08 summer has been a mighty nice one. Sure hope to make a few winterish rides. The Brass and the like... Will continue to check this thread for any activities.... :2thumbsup

helenoftroy

2nd April 2008, 21:36

Helen - I'll beep next time, okay? ;)

Absolutely -and i am sorry

Old age!!:doh:

Transalper

2nd April 2008, 22:24

Good run, especially the little adventure bit that we three bikes did with sheep, shingle, dirt and gates in the last of the twilight down Ahuriri Road at the bottom of Gebbies Pass.
Was good timing to pop back on to the back of the middle group of roadies when we got back to the main road.

Pics from the summit regroup.

phoenixgtr

3rd April 2008, 07:47

Who's that doofus on the green bike wearing the red gear? Someone tell him he looks silly :pinch:

helenoftroy

3rd April 2008, 08:09

Who's that doofus on the green bike wearing the red gear? Someone tell him he looks silly :pinch:

All green and you'd be Kermit:jerry:

Nah your OK,we like our personal set of traffic lights:rofl::blip::chase:

phoenixgtr

3rd April 2008, 08:48

Nah your OK,we like our personal set of traffic lights:rofl::blip::chase:

You reckon I should wear orange pants?

Btw, cheers to Wayne for the quick blast on the triumph. That was fun. I'll give you a call about Liv's warrant

Mikkel

3rd April 2008, 08:55

Good to hear you had a nice ride! :niceone:

I'm one of those people who quite likes the summit road, and yes it is challenging everytime i ride it. But I love the views, and if I want a quick blowout on the nice day (even in early winter at times, tho it is slower due to the grit), it is awesome to go from one end (gebbies) to the other (sumner). Doesn't have to be quick, but if you manage to do it without crossing the centre too much (tho not many centre lines along it), then you can consider yourself a fairly capable rider, as it is NOT an easy piece of road.
ah well... i still like it ;)

I agree - the summit road is a very nice piece of road. However, there are quite a few things you need to bear in mind up there. It has a lot of cyclists on it - which means that the car coming around that next corner is not unlikely to be partially or completely in your lane. Sometimes gravel and shingle gets thrown onto the road surface, so pushing to apex a left-hand corner could result in a nasty surprise. There's sheep up there - so keep your eyes open for them. Livestock trucks travel the road every now and again - combined with the sheep means that there can be shit on the road as well. A couple of places along the way there's eroding rock walls, at these places it's not uncommon to see larger rocks lying on the road.

Now that winter is approaching you have to very f-ing careful. When the frosts start setting in you'll find grit everywhere up there - especially in the sharper corners. Beware!

I ride it often - sometimes I commute along it and head down Dyers Pass road. I can see why people on more powerful bikes could find it scary - my 250 hasn't managed to give me any nasty surprises up there, but I suspect a more powerful bike could loose grip on some of the dodginess pretty easily unless ridden with a steady hand.

Dunno if I think it is suitable for group rides though...

Ah, whoops. I'm used to the only weight figures being quoted as dry weight figures - the website I used to get that weight actually says "weight (incl. oil, gas etc): 203kg". My mistake. Okay, so it's 185kg dry then, that makes a little more sense, I thought 203kg seemed a bit porky! :sweatdrop:

WTF - are you calling my new bike porky? It's 203 kgs dry... Probably around 230 kgs wet.:angry2:

imdying

3rd April 2008, 13:04

Haven't been out for a while myself, had a trip sprung on me, so spent a few hurried weeks saving then travelling.

Would like to help out with a spanner evening, I enjoy tinkering as much as riding, so winter doesn't hurt so bad :)

JAS-1100

3rd April 2008, 16:13

no show for me and pam got busy with stuff for the weekend im helping out with the motorbike rally( the sundown rally 30 km out of amberley)fri and sat sun three day event if anyone interested to go on fri im meeting up with people at the pig traven in belfast at 6pm to head there

fireliv

3rd April 2008, 16:55

Very Keen for the spanner night!!! To carry on the theme a wed would obviously suit best, and any wed suits me. Ure awesome Wayne for hooking us up!:2thumbsup:banana::apint:

Rashika

3rd April 2008, 17:46

awesome ride everyone.. pretty good riding AND behaviour even! ;)
Like the pics Transalper, you really can see how gorgeous it was up there watching the sunset on the pink clouds, but yep a bit nippy... winter is certainly getting here...baaaaaahumbug...
And for whoever i was following down Gebbies I hope my lights didn't bother you, had to have them on full cos I couldn't see a thing! Then I had to borrow Devients headlights by following him closely back to Halswell... sweet!

Yep, my low beam is shite!

Phoenix as the personal set of traffic lights... hehehe, luv it!

Deviant Esq

3rd April 2008, 20:00

Nah your OK,we like our personal set of traffic lights:rofl::blip::chase:
Bling well earned! :lol: :lol: :killingme

Then I had to borrow Devients headlights by following him closely back to Halswell... sweet!

Phoenix as the personal set of traffic lights... hehehe, luv it!
*More giggling at phoenix's expense* :laugh: :shutup:

I had wondered if it was you following me back to Halswell. In my mirror I could see one white lamp, but didn't look like it was lighting up much, and next to it, which would be the righthand side bulb, an orange glow... not unlike one of those little hallway pilot lamps to show you the way to the bog in the middle of the night! :blip: Anyway, they didn't look very effective to me, so I can't blame you for using my headlight, which is extremely effective - quite happy with it actually! As an aside, what'd you think of my lines/pace/smoothness through there? Pick anything up?

Ehehe personal set of traffic lights... that's gold! :shutup:

dangerous

3rd April 2008, 20:44

ok.. I cant hold it in any longer WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

08 Busa, dont be a dick and show how small ya dick is by doing 100+k's in a 50k zone, I seen you and the old fart on the Triumph draging.

Triumph guy, dont farking pass me at twice the speed limit WITH OUT indercating

GPZ dude, dont target fixate your recovery was good till you locked it up and went straight ahead.

LIV, less rear more front and when locking up like that release the brake and reaply

DEV, go back to a 250 ;)

Rashika, get a new B/F

GSXR250 noddie, when push starting dont aim the bike at the other riders

Dr 250 cruser, mate you to could have been dead, trust ya bike you could have made that turn there was more lean angle avaible you were not near decking out.

Helen, Dev Rash, Dev... nice lines keep it up

Chink shitter rider, stay away from the center line

Helen, trust ya brakes they are wicked go easy on em

Guzzi cock sucker, dont ride like a half wit in the dark, that was some dumb shit... and less wheelies

Tail enders, good riding ya wernt that far behind

Maronic, give the back a rest man

DEV, thanks for the beer bout time

Busa guy, nice lines when pushing it, why act like a dick in a staright line

Road kill, your ok keep it up

Fuk it Ill deal wit the rest of yas later, in the mean time consider the master of riding logestics done, all up good going now sort ya hit out :chase:

Bren_chch

3rd April 2008, 20:53

I so coming on the next ride!!! :jerry:

ajturbo

3rd April 2008, 21:00

T.W.R

3rd April 2008, 21:06

ok.. I cant hold it in any longer WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Guzzi cock sucker, dont ride like a half wit in the dark, that was some dumb shit... and less wheelies

:Playnice: Ya shouldn't be so hard on your self old fella :lol:

JMemonic

3rd April 2008, 21:10

I wanted to give the back a rest, but some Guzzi rider did not want to do a permanent swap so I would have a bike with rear suspension that worked, then I could have been the one doing wheelies.:msn-wink:

Had to add D you did well to hold off for that long.

fireliv

3rd April 2008, 21:19

Rashika, get a new B/F

This is the only thing worth it out of this whole post!!! :whistle:;)

Seriously though, yup could have applied more front, did come off just before I slide past tris and reapplied.. Also got to remember that it takes a bit for the front to lock, so use it more (did you say that your front locked though?)

ajturbo

3rd April 2008, 21:23

Also got to remember that it takes a bit for the front to lock, so use it more (did you say that your front locked though?)

frigg...... don't you ever ride a buell...

you just need to think of using the front brake and you'll have either a stoppie or lock up ( read, head over handle bars..)

Sellout

3rd April 2008, 21:37

ok.. I cant hold it in any longer WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
......
Chink shitter rider, stay away from the center line

I'll assume thats me!

Ha! Impressed that you seem to have hit on everyone there!!! I get busted by you for centreline hugging (was it on Summit Road??) Then from Alex for left line hugging coming into Halswell.....

Yeah, my lines could definitely use some work, have been trying to focus on keeping roughly in the drivers wheel track of the cars... that sound about right to everyone??

Subike

3rd April 2008, 21:50

Sellout

3rd April 2008, 22:11

yeah, thought about what I said after I posted it. Obviously corners are different.... But on the straight, around town etc, then the drivers wheel track is the place to best be seen.

Spuds1234

3rd April 2008, 22:46

I'll assume thats me!

Ha! Impressed that you seem to have hit on everyone there!!! I get busted by you for centreline hugging (was it on Summit Road??) Then from Alex for left line hugging coming into Halswell.....

Yeah, my lines could definitely use some work, have been trying to focus on keeping roughly in the drivers wheel track of the cars... that sound about right to everyone??

Sorry for ragging on you dude. You were riding where I would ride a push bike is all.

The staggered formation is usually a good idea as it gives you extra space to stop in, but you should never put yourself in danger by thinking that you have to stick to it.

Also if Im at the front of a group, Im always in the right hand side of the lane as it is usually the place where you can see the most therefore you can hopefully avoid anything that decides to try and get in your way.

Mikkel

3rd April 2008, 23:46

Farking hell D :lol:

I'm sad that I had work on. Would have loved that kind of consise input!

From D's post I'm taking it we should be grateful that the entire ride made it back home without casualties... ;)

(D, by Roadkill I suppose you mean MIZXR (Andy) - Roadkill is another forum).

MIZXR

4th April 2008, 01:14

(D, by Roadkill I suppose you mean MIZXR (Andy) - Roadkill is another forum).

Yeh I'm getting a split personality. Though roadkill is the orginal split, and a well earnt nick as well.

Rashika, get a new B/F
:lol::lol::lol::crybaby:
Laughed so hard I fell of the lazyboy. chair that is
:lol::lol::lol::crybaby:

Cheers D.:banana: Didn't see any mono's anywhere you sure it happened? Good points you have made. though I sorta didn't see anyones riding to judge
Dam dude that huge light you have took up both my mirrors, good thing I don't use them.

Saw a couple of silly baby stoppies when the person didn't check properly behind.
Sorry those behind me thanks for missing!

Good fun ride, didn't realise how much i had missed that piece of goat track.:doobey:

Rashika

4th April 2008, 04:16

Rashika, get a new B/F

Helen, trust ya brakes they are wicked go easy on em

yep, I'm working on it... any takers? :lol:

and yep helen, trust your brakes, you'll get more confident with them with lotsa practise (I did on mine!), and they will be so different to your previous rides. (almost run up ya arse once... my bad... your braking was just a little harder than i anticipated)

Cheers D.:banana: Didn't see any mono's anywhere you sure it happened? Good points you have made. though I sorta didn't see anyones riding to judge
Dam dude that huge light you have took up both my mirrors, good thing I don't use them...

Good fun ride, didn't realise how much i had missed that piece of goat track.:doobey:
yeah I saw the attempt... just managed to put it down before carreering of the summit road in to the paddocks below (first stop up the top)... believe me, he's a tryer! :spanking:

Yeah I do love the road, but it still challenges me everytime, very different doing it in the near dark (damn light)

dangerous

4th April 2008, 05:23

fuck !!.. you guys are fuckin lucky you have a man BIG enough to point out where ya fucked up!.. They dont all see it like that tho AJ, as for the later half of ya post... prick :buggerd:

:Playnice: Ya shouldn't be so hard on your self old fella :lol: DOH :pinch:

(did you say that your front locked though?) yip, my bad... best brakes money can buy are Brembo, I grabed to biga handfull but released straight away my rear aplercation was beter, my sfinxter mussle dident relax till I got home :beer:

-I'll assume thats me!
-Ha! Impressed that you seem to have hit on everyone there!!!
-I get busted by you for centreline hugging (was it on Summit Road??)
-Yeah, my lines could definitely use some work, have been trying to focus on keeping roughly in the drivers wheel track of the cars... that sound about right to everyone??

-yip
-yeah good and bad myself and some more than once like Livs pase on the summit, (not far behind)
-yeah summit rd, but remember it is a very narrow and tight rd at points so it is very tricky to get it right (includes myself)
-IMHO, in a straight line, center (unless in a staggered format) on righties, left track and on left handers the right track (can some times differ due to road camber)

-Farking hell D
-From D's post I'm taking it we should be grateful that the entire ride made it back home without casualties... ;)
-(D, by Roadkill I suppose you mean MIZXR (Andy) - Roadkill is another forum).
-I hope so...
-you take it wrong, my post is good and bad riding habbits and the last line even says 'all up good riding'
-yeah him

-yep, I'm working on it... any takers
-yeah I saw the attempt... just managed to put it down before carreering of the summit road in to the paddocks below (first stop up the top)... believe me, he's a tryer! :spanking:
Yep, Id be keen :)
ohhhhhhh yeah, forgot about that bunny hop, bloody thing wouldnt turn :whistle:

ajturbo

4th April 2008, 06:32

I'll assume thats me!

Yeah, my lines could definitely use some work, have been trying to focus on keeping roughly in the drivers wheel track of the cars... that sound about right to everyone??

how long have you ben road riding???

just asked as... when mudboy road the buell he seamed to sit on the white line also....with me on the back TRYING to get him to move over a bit, the truck coming the other way helped a bit....

helenoftroy

4th April 2008, 08:13

and yep helen, trust your brakes, you'll get more confident with them with lotsa practise (I did on mine!), and they will be so different to your previous rides.
Did my old Beamer have brakes!!!I didnt notice:clap:

ohhhhhhh yeah, forgot about that bunny hop, bloody thing wouldnt turn :whistle:

God dangermouse get that sorted!!:bash:yah need more practice:bleh:

Transalper

4th April 2008, 08:56

ok.. I cant hold it in any longer WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
...Fuk it Ill deal wit the rest of yas later...starting to feel a little left out here:blank:

Sellout

4th April 2008, 09:45

how long have you ben road riding???

just asked as... when mudboy road the buell he seamed to sit on the white line also....with me on the back TRYING to get him to move over a bit, the truck coming the other way helped a bit....

about 2 months road riding now...

Sorry for ragging on you dude. You were riding where I would ride a push bike is all.

Sweet as mate, kinda nice to have people watching and givg feedback, all helps to make me safer and better!!

cruza

4th April 2008, 13:07

Geez reading the posts, looks like things are back to normal......:rolleyes:
:corn:

SVboy

4th April 2008, 13:13

Hey Cruisa, I remember you. Didnt you used to ride bikes a long time ago?

Spuds1234

4th April 2008, 19:09

Anyone keen for a ride this Sunday?

Just a cruise up through either Greta Valley or Leader Road (perhaps both).

Tentative plan is to leave mid to late morning, have lunch and a beer somewhere along the way and to be home by 5.

homer

4th April 2008, 19:21

If fine and can manage to go quite possibly
pm me tomorrow ,
cant make a sat ride so maybe sunday
whats helen up to maybe a ride as well
any others ?

Rashika

4th April 2008, 19:32

starting to feel a little left out here:blank:
ahhh ya poor old soul... ok here ya are

your brakes are hopelessly hard to see with the sun shining on them, and those behind ya have trouble seeing them... lucky I was beside you ;)

Hey Cruisa, I remember you. Didnt you used to ride bikes a long time ago?

yeah ya know what I THINK he did used to :devil2:

dunno 'bout a ride on Sunday, depend on whether I head out with the others tomorrow or not. (got stuff to do before hand)
Start a new thread Spuds ;)

Spuds1234

4th April 2008, 19:42

dunno 'bout a ride on Sunday, depend on whether I head out with the others tomorrow or not. (got stuff to do before hand)
Start a new thread Spuds ;)

Your wish is my command.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1505698#post1505698

Rashika

4th April 2008, 19:50

Your wish is my command.

oooo errrrr REALLY?? :devil2:

Spuds1234

4th April 2008, 19:51

[QUOTE=Spuds1234;1505703]Your wish is my command.

oooo errrrr REALLY?? :devil2:

Here it comes.

When do you want me to start doing the cleaning, ironing, and washing around your place?

Spuds1234

4th April 2008, 19:56

[QUOTE=Spuds1234;1505730]

I dont think 'that' was what she was meaning spud oll boy

Im a naive young man. What ever else could she have ment?

Rashika

4th April 2008, 19:58

Im a naive young man. What ever else could she have ment?

ooooo now you aint THAT naive!

Spuds1234

4th April 2008, 19:59

[QUOTE=Spuds1234;1505743]

ooooo now you aint THAT naive!

Yea once you start riding motorbikes and hanging around with all those bikie types you do learn a few things I suppose.

Mikkel

4th April 2008, 23:40

Yea once you start riding motorbikes and hanging around with all those bikie types you do learn a few things I suppose.

Well, you still have a fair bit to go - you're not nearly whinging and moaning enough here on KB ;)

scumdog

4th April 2008, 23:58

[QUOTE=Spuds1234;1505730]

I dont think 'that' was what she was meaning spud oll boy

Mr S. sez to fugoff!!

Deviant Esq

5th April 2008, 08:36

Well, you still have a fair bit to go - you're not nearly whinging and moaning enough here on KB ;)
Hey, HEY! I resemble that remark... :bleh:

.produKt

5th April 2008, 18:42

Ahh! So that's what i saw Wednesday this week outside BK :)

You probably spied a ex(temp) motorcyclist driving his subaru past, eyes popping out of his head at the sexy hardware in the carkpark *cough* lol :P

I'm goin back to bikes in a month or so anyway, should hope to be able to come along :)

babysteps

6th April 2008, 21:18

Sooooo are these rides L Plate and Vespa friendly? I could use some more experience riding in groups......

Deviant Esq

6th April 2008, 21:27

Sooooo are these rides L Plate and Vespa friendly? I could use some more experience riding in groups......
Yes and yes. There is a group within the group that always takes their time and makes sure the L platers / learners / "I'm in no hurry"ers are well looked after. Bad time to join up in that daylight savings has abandoned us, and it can only get colder and darker from now on for the next few months, but good time to join in that you'll get practice riding in the dark, and the rides will be shorter, and less likely to be spending time on the open road (less Vespa friendly) due to the lack of light and warmth. :)

homer

6th April 2008, 21:28

yep go along and join in
great fun

Biggles2000

7th April 2008, 21:28

Would it be worth doing a regular weekly weekend ride during the colder months? Or am I being silly?

Bren_chch

7th April 2008, 21:55

Would it be worth doing a regular weekly weekend ride during the colder months? Or am I being silly?

Thats a mighty fine idea!

Dave-

7th April 2008, 21:59

silly idea...i work weekends...

Bren_chch

7th April 2008, 22:06

what happened with your 250 in the end?

homer

7th April 2008, 22:06

Thats a mighty fine idea!

already sugested that ., a sat arvo

Ghost_Bullet

7th April 2008, 22:06

Thats a mighty fine idea!

eSP if that mighty sun is shining....

a side note...there's a run on Anzac day 25th April out to Cust from South City.... 12noon leaving 1pm arriving Cust about 2pm for lots of good stuff. (BBQ,raffles...)

Biggles2000

8th April 2008, 18:51

Its the Ulysses Ambulance run. Last years run was a blast, the 2 years before was a wet trip. And yes before you say it the HD does go out in the rain, sometimes, ok rarely.

Biggles2000

8th April 2008, 18:53

silly idea...i work weekends...

I don't.:wari:

ShawNee1

9th April 2008, 11:03

So where to tonight boys & girls, another run around the hills like last weekend?.
METServices say Cloud clearing, then fine Southwesterlies.

JMemonic

9th April 2008, 14:48

Well folks I am going to miss tonight sorry, my back is still not up to scratch.

phoenixgtr

9th April 2008, 14:53

Yeah, I have trouble scratching my back too...:crazy:

Hope it gets better soon mate

JMemonic

9th April 2008, 15:00

Yeah, I have trouble scratching my back too...:crazy:

I am not surprised with that hump on you jacket :lol:

Mikkel

9th April 2008, 15:00

I won't make it tonight - my muffler is at the shop getting some love.

Have a good one guys - be safe out there and remember that it'll get dark really early. ;)

phoenixgtr

9th April 2008, 15:49

Just call me egor

Unfortunately it will be going dark by the time we leave the carpark. Stupid winter!!

Not fussed on which route to take tonight. The Halswell pub does seem to be a good finishing point though

Transalper

9th April 2008, 16:28

Got to admit a blat around the bays/Summit/Tunnel what ever and finish about Halswell pub is more appealing than a long trek back to chch after stoping out of town.
See ya at BK.

fireliv

9th April 2008, 17:23

I wont come out but if you end up at haswell will join up for a drink

Deviant Esq

9th April 2008, 21:30

I wont come out but if you end up at haswell will join up for a drink
And an expensive one it was too! Hope it was worth it... not that it's worth convincing either of you guys to spend less on eating out. I'll just carry on my merry way of bring my crumby sandwiches to work. They're nothing flash but I'm prepared to make them the night before and so save money for other stuff. But then, I've been skint for so long I've had to bite every coin, haven't had the luxury of being able to afford to buy lunch :(

The chicken burger I had at the pub was excellent. Nearly as good as the ride, which was quite good too. Good to see there are still some game enough to brave the lack of daylight savings and cooler air temp! Though once it starts getting frosty we'll probably have to flag the CWNR until it warms up again - downright dangerous with black ice lurking in that next shadowy corner... :pinch:

DrJekyll

10th April 2008, 12:21

really good ride last night :mellow:

Dave-

10th April 2008, 13:24

what happened with your 250 in the end?

dragged the dealer to court, won and got my money back, paid back the loan and dumped the rest in a savings account.

5 months till full.

Monty69

10th April 2008, 14:40

Sounds like ive missed some great rides, and now just as im getting my bike back, WINTER arrives, leaving little in the way of evening light. sigh. Atleast ill be back on two wheels. A month on 4 was getting a tad boring:Pokey:

Rashika

10th April 2008, 19:33

dragged the dealer to court, won and got my money back, paid back the loan and dumped the rest in a savings account.

awesum news dave! ;)

Bren_chch

10th April 2008, 22:47

dragged the dealer to court, won and got my money back, paid back the loan and dumped the rest in a savings account.

5 months till full.

I'm surprised you won, but of course its good that you did!

So has he taken the bike back to TeAroha or is it still in CHCH?

Kakapo

12th April 2008, 11:16

fireliv

12th April 2008, 13:46

Hey guys I'm new here,

I really should have been more proactive and searched this out a long time ago I've missed out on some really cool rides.

Well I'll have to try and get along to some before it gets too cold cya round sometime soon.

:apint:

HI Kakapo, welcome! Hope yo see ya on a ride (maybe once you have a licence sorted:whistle:). THere are a few still heading out on a wed but for how long not sure. Just keep an eye out fot sat/sun rides!

karla

12th April 2008, 16:25

Kakapo

13th April 2008, 00:38

Meh licences are just a technicality. I had one about 13years ago but had abit of a run in with johnny law and a judge decided that I should have mine taken off me and resit from scratch.

Ah the good ol days of reckless abandonment.....

After riding without my bit of paper for so many years i never got around to sitting it again and since I've joined the military its kinda needed now.

I've just finished the mechanical rebuild of my bike and its all registered and almost pretty again. Need to get a couple fairing pieces to make it look a little better. For the record bike vs stupid ass teenager that can't look when running across roads. Bike WINS!!! but breaks :(

The license issue is a work in progress and after I've sorted out a handling cert i'll go get it not a problem at all.