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trump-lady
14th January 2008, 09:42
"Viagra" at your age!

Frankly I think that is very sad.

Viagra at any age is very sad!

Then again am I just lucky, or missing something! :Oops: John

I dont need it, my partner felt he needed some help keeping up with me.This was in response to the above post about how you handle it when your drive is higher than your partners.

My partner felt he wasnt able to keep up with me so he went to the doctor (unknown to me) and got some Viagra. It has worked well for us.

Maybe you are lucky but perhaps youve never encounted a women who is outa control ;)

Sad, your call but I see no problem in resolving an issue.....it would be sad if you didnt

007XX
14th January 2008, 09:56
I dont need it, my partner felt he needed some help keeping up with me.This was in response to the above post about how you handle it when your drive is higher than your partners.

My partner felt he wasnt able to keep up with me so he went to the doctor (unknown to me) and got some Viagra. It has worked well for us.

Maybe you are lucky but perhaps youve never encounted a women who is outa control ;)

Sad, your call but I see no problem in resolving an issue.....it would be sad if you didnt

No disrespect meant I assure you...But I really think that a doctor prescribing a drug such as Viagra to a 24 (and one assumes otherwise healthy) year old male, just because he can't keep up with his partner is absolute nonsense bordering on irresponsibility on the part of the medical practicioner.

Now, once again, before you misinterpret my opinion...I think it is great that you guys are trying to meet each other's sexual requirements, but I don't think that a drug should be the answer. It was meant for men twice his age, with seriously flunked libidos (meaning no uppy Mister Happy at all), not to increase an exisiting sex life.

I just really hope it will not come to any damages to your partner's health, as I have found a lot of doctors in NZ very freehanded in their approach to drugs, which has been on many occasions proven to be detrimental to the patients' health.

Now, it is my opinion, but I am not judging you nor your partner, just expressing some concern for your well being, that's all.

oldrider
14th January 2008, 09:59
Maybe you are lucky but perhaps youve never encounted a women who is outa control ;)

Maybe you are right! :clap: :killingme:killingme::rofl::rofl::rofl: I really enjoyed that comment! :yes: Cheers John.

nadroj
14th January 2008, 10:09
Maybe he just needs some lessons / experience on how to apply the brakes without loosing control?

trump-lady
14th January 2008, 10:17
Maybe he just needs some lessons / experience on how to apply the brakes without loosing control?

Trust me Im teaching him....he will leave me a very able to please man.....
Theres a wee bit of med history there also which may be why the doctor gave it up so easily. Totally with you 007xxx over prescribed meds is a huge issue esp in USA. I didnt ask him too he went by himself and didnt discuss it with me and I woulda said dont do it, but Im kinda glad he did :)

Bikernereid
14th January 2008, 10:30
I would say that the UK is the same for over prescribing meds but they are slowly curbing prescriptions for the simplist of drugs such a pain killers!!

There is nothing better than a good teacher and an open relationship where variety can be discussed and new things practised!! Conversation can be the greatest of sex aid and a bloody good turn on too. There is nothing better than trying something someone has suggested and getting it right!!

You go girl and I bet he is EXTREMELY pleased to have met you too!!


Trust me Im teaching him....he will leave me a very able to please man.....
Theres a wee bit of med history there also which may be why the doctor gave it up so easily. Totally with you 007xxx over prescribed meds is a huge issue esp in USA. I didnt ask him too he went by himself and didnt discuss it with me and I woulda said dont do it, but Im kinda glad he did :)

007XX
14th January 2008, 10:36
Trust me Im teaching him....he will leave me a very able to please man.....
Theres a wee bit of med history there also which may be why the doctor gave it up so easily. Totally with you 007xxx over prescribed meds is a huge issue esp in USA. I didnt ask him too he went by himself and didnt discuss it with me and I woulda said dont do it, but Im kinda glad he did :)

Yeah sorry mate, I really didn't mean to sound like I was giving you guys a hard time.

I'm glad to know it is not being used as a quick fix. If it can reassure you, I've been there too, but it is amazing how much communication and coaching can do to make things perfect.
So keep up the good work, and coach that young one into a purebred :2thumbsup

trump-lady
14th January 2008, 10:45
Yeah sorry mate, I really didn't mean to sound like I was giving you guys a hard time.

I'm glad to know it is not being used as a quick fix. If it can reassure you, I've been there too, but it is amazing how much communication and coaching can do to make things perfect.
So keep up the good work, and coach that young one into a purebred :2thumbsup

Nah not at all....your right. Over meds is a huge problem.

It really has help build his confidence and it only last for 4 hours and Ive noted when he doesnt have it now hes still good to go :) (OMG HE WILL KILL ME IF HE SEES THIS!) I think its quite intimadating for a 24 year old to be with a 30 year old anyways. We are how can I say it..... not like anything that age has encountered before hehehehe. But I am creating a very good lover and quite proud. Ive told him im preparing him for the next one but he doesnt seem ta wanna go anywhere so must be doing something right outside of the bedroom too ;)

007XX
14th January 2008, 10:56
Nah not at all....your right. Over meds is a huge problem.

It really has help build his confidence and it only last for 4 hours and Ive noted when he doesnt have it now hes still good to go :) (OMG HE WILL KILL ME IF HE SEES THIS!) I think its quite intimadating for a 24 year old to be with a 30 year old anyways. We are how can I say it..... not like anything that age has encountered before hehehehe. But I am creating a very good lover and quite proud. Ive told him im preparing him for the next one but he doesnt seem ta wanna go anywhere so must be doing something right outside of the bedroom too ;)

Awesome stuff!!! :first:

jrandom
14th January 2008, 11:02
I am creating a very good lover and quite proud. Ive told him im preparing him for the next one but he doesnt seem ta wanna go anywhere so must be doing something right outside of the bedroom too ;)

You're sounding like a condescending, demanding bitch.

If I was 'seeing' a woman and she posted publicly on the internet about my sexual performance without checking with me first, she'd be a hair's breadth away from getting her presumptuous arse kicked right out the door.

Jesus.

Some people.

:no:

I'll bet he really loves hearing that stuff about how you're 'training him up', too. Great way to make a man feel secure.

:rolleyes:

007XX
14th January 2008, 11:11
Oh boy! Here we go again...Should never have fed him sugar over the weekend :rolleyes:

:dodge:

trump-lady
14th January 2008, 15:23
You're sounding like a condescending, demanding bitch.

If I was 'seeing' a woman and she posted publicly on the internet about my sexual performance without checking with me first, she'd be a hair's breadth away from getting her presumptuous arse kicked right out the door.

Jesus.

Some people.

:no:

I'll bet he really loves hearing that stuff about how you're 'training him up', too. Great way to make a man feel secure.

:rolleyes:

Thankyou :)
He does come on here so chances are he will see it. He is quite open to what I have to say on the matter OF SEX and I would say appreciates that I can communicate with him about such things. Im sure it would be far more condescending to say how bad he is which I never have. I would also be a bitch if I had negative things to say however never told him what my problems are, which again I dont. If you go through my post about him on this thread you will see how many times I say I am pleased and get pleased by him. A compliment I would think.

I tell him perhaps more than any other woman in his past life what I want and also listen to what he wants. I think if you spoke to him he would tell you the same thing that our communication is key here and because of it we have become very compatable in the bed room. Condescending no. Also we have openly discussed this thread as we do many things on such topics and he encourages me to also explore as I did things going on with me.

I began this thread and probably am posting more than I usually would because as I have stated its something that Im interested in and for me to ask such info of others I should offer my own as I see fit. I did.

It sounds to me that you may have a unresolved issue yourself.....

jrandom
14th January 2008, 15:35
He does come on here...

Now you make him sound like your bitch.

Is he your bitch?

Wouldn't catch me bein' nobody's bitch.

Let's see, now. What is it that bothers me about your comments?

I think it's the fact that you project the general attitude of seeing your male partner as a life-support system for a penis.


... we have openly discussed this thread as we do many things on such topics and he encourages me to also explore as I did things going on with me.

OK, that's reassuring.


It sounds to me that you may have a unresolved issue yourself.....

Yeah. I don't like women who treat men like bitches.

:yes:

trump-lady
14th January 2008, 15:48
Yeah. I don't like women who treat men like bitches.

:yes:
You dont like women who like to talk and communicate with you about how to please them and vice versa?

If being open and discussing and willing to learn together is being a bitch then yes Hes my bitch and I am his.

ManDownUnder
14th January 2008, 15:51
You dont like women who like to talk and communicate with you about how to please them and vice versa?

How to put this politely... hmm nope can't be done... so I'll say it straight.

FUCK YES! Teach me please (Not a presumptuous invite to you Trump-Lady - a general comment)! Jesus - anyone claiming to know it all between the sheets, or with any lover is limiting their own fun as well as those they are, or will be, connected with (dreadful pun fully intended)

007XX
14th January 2008, 15:54
I began this thread and probably am posting more than I usually would because as I have stated its something that Im interested in and for me to ask such info of others I should offer my own as I see fit. I did.


I personally find your approach very refreshing in its honesty. A lot of people find it uncomfortable talking about sex, and you have just been very candid about your situation while still being respectful of your partner.

:niceone:

007XX
14th January 2008, 15:55
How to put this politely... hmm nope can't be done... so I'll say it straight.

FUCK YES! Teach me please (Not a presumptuous invite to you Trump-Lady - a general comment)! Jesus - anyone claiming to know it all between the sheets, or with any lover is limiting their own fun as well as those they are, or will be, connected with (dreadful pun fully intended)

Oh and for an animated version of my opinion:

WHAT HE SAID!!!!!:clap::clap:

jrandom
14th January 2008, 15:55
You dont like women who like to talk and communicate with you about how to please them and vice versa?

Depends entirely on the manner and context in which said communication occurs.

"No, do that. No, do this. Do this now, do that now. Yes, keep doing that. Right. Good."

The way you describe your relationship makes it sound like you issuing a series of instructions, and this poor twenty-something-year-old fretting so badly over how the fuck he's supposed to carry out all that shit that he's off at the doctor begging for stay-hard pills.

You do realise, don't you, that it's very odd for a guy that young to feel any need for pharmaceutical assistance?

If a normal, healthy guy in his twenties can't provide enough erections to get you off, then the problem isn't his - it's yours. You're either not turning him on in the first place, or you yourself are relatively unresponsive.

I could be completely wrong (and I hope I am) but your comments so far (including those in another thread where you went on about how you ogle random men on the street) give me a strong suspicion that this toyboy of yours is actually rather unhappy, and that you're rather oblivious.

jrandom
14th January 2008, 15:57
... you have just been very candid about your situation while still being respectful of your partner.

Candid, yes.

Respectful, no.

Bear with me, here, I'm working from the viewpoint of a fragile male psyche...

007XX
14th January 2008, 15:59
Candid, yes.

Respectful, no.

Bear with me, here, I'm working from the viewpoint of a fragile male psyche...

Are you talking about yours or his?

Bearing in mind that talking about someone else's psyche would be a total assumption, endangering the validity of the point you're trying to make.

ManDownUnder
14th January 2008, 15:59
If a normal, healthy guy in his twenties can't provide enough erections to get you off, then the problem isn't his - it's yours. You're either not turning him on in the first place, or you yourself are relatively unresponsive.

LOL... or (wait for it)... he might not know what he's doing... and how could that be addressed??? hmmm???

Blue Velvet
14th January 2008, 16:00
If a normal, healthy guy in his twenties can't provide enough erections to get you off, then the problem isn't his - it's yours. You're either not turning him on in the first place, or you yourself are relatively unresponsive.

I believe there was reference to pharmaceuticals affecting Trump-Lady's man's sex drive. If I'm not mistaken, and that is the case, then it has nothing to do with Trump-Lady's ability to arouse her man.

$0.02

vifferman
14th January 2008, 16:01
LOL... or (wait for it)... he might not know what he's doing... and how could that be addressed??? hmmm???
Or there are performance issues - worrying about how he is doing is making his performance worse.

jrandom
14th January 2008, 16:04
Are you talking about yours or his?

I'm doing what we all do when we attempt to form a model of someone else's motivations - projecting my own onto his.

And I'm not ashamed to admit to plenty of emotional fragility when it comes to intimacy and sexual performance.

:yes:


he might not know what he's doing... and how could that be addressed???

... perhaps not by destroying his self-confidence and turning him into a well-whipped slave to the pussy?

jrandom
14th January 2008, 16:05
... it has nothing to do with Trump-Lady's ability to arouse her man.

Once again, I can only speak from personal experience, but any woman who takes a demanding approach to sexual activities can almost be guaranteed to turn me right off.

But, hey, that's just me. Maybe that's what does it for this fulla?

ManDownUnder
14th January 2008, 16:06
Increased bloodlflow to the nethers or somesuch.

Yup - I understand that's how it works or (saving money) it can be done orally.

I can not stress enough - there's a shiteload of stuff to learn... an ab-so-lute TON to learn, and I would love the chance to learn more (happily married man flag waving here...).

I say it again... anyone not wanting to learn, or thinking they know it all are idiots... and are missing out.

ManDownUnder
14th January 2008, 16:08
... perhaps not by destroying his self-confidence and turning him into a well-whipped slave to the pussy?

*sigh*... you're a bright boy but you're rowing against the tide dude.

We're not talking about classroom setting type lessons here. Get yourself a copy of the lover's guide (http://www.amazon.com/Lovers-Guide-Gift-Set-Assorted/dp/B0006IIO4A) on DVD, watch it with she who you enjoy bump and grind with... and as stuff comes up...talk.

Learn learn learn. It'll start those conversations that will only lead good places.

trump-lady
14th January 2008, 16:10
Depends entirely on the manner and context in which said communication occurs.

"No, do that. No, do this. Do this now, do that now. Yes, keep doing that. Right. Good."

The way you describe your relationship makes it sound like you issuing a series of instructions, and this poor twenty-something-year-old fretting so badly over how the fuck he's supposed to carry out all that shit that he's off at the doctor begging for stay-hard pills.

You do realise, don't you, that it's very odd for a guy that young to feel any need for pharmaceutical assistance?

If a normal, healthy guy in his twenties can't provide enough erections to get you off, then the problem isn't his - it's yours. You're either not turning him on in the first place, or you yourself are relatively unresponsive.

I could be completely wrong (and I hope I am) but your comments so far (including those in another thread where you went on about how you ogle random men on the street) give me a strong suspicion that this toyboy of yours is actually rather unhappy, and that you're rather oblivious.

JD I know your angry and taking my post about my partner personal because you feel I am attacking him. Some men are OK with such comments and some dont think that learning and listening is being a "bitch" I for example am quite happy if thats your definition to say
I AM MY MANS BITCH.

This thread started about 30 somethings having a sexual revival. As for the trying to slander me with the google 20 somethings. It was in this thread and was relative to the subject do women have a sexual revival after 30 and was used as an example. In fact I think I also said I dont act on that I have someone who pleases me.

Please dont twist this. I didnt ask him to go get the pills he took it apon himself because he wants to please me. We have discussed it and like I said in a previous post his confidence has encreased not just sexually but in alot of other ways too.

Im not going to go back and forth with you on this. Your opinion is noted and I understand you have taken my comments as an attack on my partner which you are entittled too. In that I can see, why your perturbed and judging me.

However you have been quite frequent on this thread and I would have thought you would have understood my intentions a little more. In this particular thread to help explain myself it has been neccesary to explain my own situation which you should note I did not bring up my partner until way into the thread started.

007XX
14th January 2008, 16:11
I'm doing what we all do when we attempt to form a model of someone else's motivations - projecting my own onto his.

And I'm not ashamed to admit to plenty of emotional fragility when it comes to intimacy and sexual performance.

:yes:



... perhaps not by destroying his self-confidence and turning him into a well-whipped slave to the pussy?

Then along the same line of honesty and candour, may I just say that the negative pattern you see things framed in is not the only way things can be...

You and I have had this conversation a couple of times now, haven't we? :laugh:

I hate to break it to you, but yes, there are couples out there who do properly communicate with one another, take part in really exciting "taboo" sexual practices, (insert all the tings that Jrandom has a bug in his ear about)... and still have healthy and loving relationships.

Because it doesn't fit your (obviously damaging) experience doesn't mean it is not possible or that it's wrong.

Each to their own, & live and let live my young friend.

Off home now...toodles :D

jrandom
14th January 2008, 16:13
*sigh*... you're a bright boy but you're rowing against the tide dude.

It's my specialty!

<img src="http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/gangsters_outlaws/outlaws/sicilian_robin_hood/In-Dubious-Battle150.jpg"/>


Get yourself a copy of the lover's guide on DVD, watch it with she who you enjoy bump and grind with...

Don't get me wrong. I'm all about learning and exploring.

:eek:

What I'm taking issue with here is trump_lady's apparent attitude towards this particular gentleman. One sniffs a faint reek of selfishness and condescension. One hopes that one is wrong...

jrandom
14th January 2008, 16:17
... really exciting "taboo" sexual practices

:Police:


Because it doesn't fit your (obviously damaging) experience...

Noooooobody knows /
De trouble I've seen...


my young friend

*splutter*

ManDownUnder
14th January 2008, 16:18
What I'm taking issue with here is trump_lady's apparent attitude towards this particular gentleman. One sniffs a faint reek of selfishness and condescension. One hopes that one is wrong...

All good - I'l close out for the day by saying you seems to have the other end of the stick from me.

That's not what I read at all. MDU over and under

trump-lady
14th January 2008, 16:18
I believe there was reference to pharmaceuticals affecting Trump-Lady's man's sex drive. If I'm not mistaken, and that is the case, then it has nothing to do with Trump-Lady's ability to arouse her man.

$0.02

Thankyou...but as much as JD thinks of my disrespect for my man, there are somethings not going to be posted.

jrandom
14th January 2008, 16:21
... like I said in a previous post his confidence has encreased not just sexually but in alot of other ways too.

Now that's a little snippet of the attitude that gets my goat.

Publicly taking responsibility for one's partner's increase in confidence. It's so patronising, and generally just crass. Why not leave that up to him to say?

Like I said. Sounds like he yo bitch, nigga!

:done:

Number One
14th January 2008, 17:24
Then along the same line of honesty and candour, may I just say that the negative pattern you see things framed in is not the only way things can be...

Yup - here's a :hug: for ya :chase: :hug: life ain't all sucky :banana:


I hate to break it to you, but yes, there are couples out there who do properly communicate with one another, take part in really exciting "taboo" sexual practices, (insert all the tings that Jrandom has a bug in his ear about)... and still have healthy and loving relationships
Because it doesn't fit your (obviously damaging) experience doesn't mean it is not possible or that it's wrong. Each to their own, & live and let live my young friend. .

Too Right!

AND in the interests of healthy, loving, mutually enjoyable adult sexual relationships that allow both partners to explore, appreciate and celebrate their love, desire and well damnit life and being alive in general

AND IN THE SPIRIT of the original question...I'm 30, have a great man am up for it (wif me man only of course) and I'm proud I'm not totally hung up and can enjoy it - no mean feat either thanks!

SO go on...tell me about any great spots for Wellywood bikers to take in a little 'Afternoon Delight': http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64881 :msn-wink:

Maybe we could work on a 'sign' to warn each other to move onto the next option :cool:

I'll show ya mine if you show me yers :dodge: