Adventure ho!!

[Big Dog]

Who would be keen to do a Cape Rienga (SP?) challenge?

The challenge:
Bike must cost < or = $1000 have a current warrant and reg (or be completely unsuitable to the journey at hand).
The bike must have less than 200cc or a flat out top speed of less than 120.
The bike must not be capable of cruising at 100.
Added 12/05/08: Please note the above are guidelines not rules.
IF you are complying with the spirit of the event then you will be given approval to bring a bike that does not meet all the criteria. Just give me and Fireball a reason. It can be logical, emotional, comical, downright illogical it does not matter just has to be a reason other than I want to do it on my normal bike.

If you want to bring your ordinary bike and you would need your full license to ride it or your bike is not inappropriate enough you will need to sponsor another rider.

Please stop trying to change the rules it is defeating the purpose of the challenge.

Given that many of the people who would be interested in such a journey are students (nuff said) if you wish to sponsor a rider who you think cannot make it you may.

UPDATE

ok guys here it is the draft layout of the CC CHALLENGE.....
as this is only a draft your comments are more than welcome and all feedback will be noted and considered for the final ride!

WHAT: CC Challenge

WHY: To raise funds to be donated to the running of this site and a donation to Outward Bound, also as a personal challenge THIS IS NOT A RACE

WHERE: Auckland to the Cape

WHEN: Friday 6th June 2008 due to be back in Auckland on Sunday 8th June 2008

MEET POINT: The bottom carpark (next to the outlet stores) at Westgate shopping center. We will be meeting at 6am SHARP, with a brief before we DEPART at 7am. we dont need typical late bikers.

ENTRY CRITERIA: This is open to anyone who meets the following criteria.
Bike must cost no more than $1000, have a current warrant and reg (or be completely unsuitable to the journey at hand). Your bike MUST be ROAD LEGAL
The bike must have less than 200cc or a flat out top speed of less than 120.
The bike must not be capable of cruising at 100.
If you are unsure if your bike meets the criteria feel free to PM one of the organizers to verify, either BigDog or myself, it will not be discussed in the thread until a ruling has been provided please PM one of us if you are unsure.

ROUTE PLAN: At this stage Ixion's route seems a suitable one, but any suggestions are welcome. a map will be attached once the route has been marked out and finalized so watch for that.

RISKS: As you are all aware this is ENTRY AT YOUR OWN RISK we will be on open roads in all weather conditions, you are responsible for your own safety. ALL RIDERS MUST HAVE the appropriate clothing for the ride and be wearing a HI-VIS vest, this is for your safety. As we are riding in a group there shouldnt be to many issues out there with traffic.
If you have first aid certification please let me know.
also it is a recommendation to carry a first aid kit and a puncture repair kit as we will be on gravel roads.

COST: There will be an entry cost to this event this is yet to be decided on the amount and all funds go into the kitty to be donated, also at this stage we anticipate some costs for food (beers and BBQ) and accommodation for both nights or if there is a friendly biker out there that doesnt mind letting us sleep on your lawn or paddock for a night drop me a line.

SWEEP VAN/TRUCK: We need a volunteer/s to drive behind as a safety car and a sweep vehicle. WE CAN NOT RIDE UNLESS WE HAVE ONE this is also for safety reasons. So drop me a PM if you can provide your service.

Please note: the purpose is to have some fun, on bikes that are not specific to the purpose.

[fireball]

count me in!
but will need a time frame as to when we are going as well will need to save and beg to get a bike that fits the requirements.


CALENDAR LINK

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1586&day=2008-6-6&c=1

[Big Dog]

count me in!
but will need a time frame as to when we are going as well will need to save and beg to get a bike that fits the requirements.

If it is going to happen it has to happen by July.

I want to give people time to prep so probably in May. Depends a little on numbers.

[skidMark]

Can i use my ZXR if i install a pushbike crank and go down the road yelling

"meh meh, fookinggg neooooowwww" ?????:whistle:

[Big Dog]

Can i use my ZXR if i install a pushbike crank and go down the road yelling

"meh meh, fookinggg neooooowwww" ?????:whistle:

That might be inappropriate enough to qualify to have the $1000 spend and the max speed exempted.
I will have to see the finished results before I can offer a final ruling.

[Big Dog]

Can i use my ZXR if i install a pushbike crank and go down the road yelling

"meh meh, fookinggg neooooowwww" ?????:whistle:

PLEASE NOTE: I am serious about this. If there is enough interest this will go ahead if not Fireball and I will go Maruader and PGO and anyone else who wants to tag along.

If there is enough interest we will try and organize some fun stuff along the way and try and get some sponsorship for a charity.

(And a percentage of any money raised as a donation to Kiwibiker)

[skidMark]

PLEASE NOTE: I am serious about this. If there is enough interest this will go ahead if not Fireball and I will go Maruader and PGO and anyone else who wants to tag along.

If there is enough interest we will try and organize some fun stuff along the way and try and get some sponsorship for a charity.


are the lots of walkways to duck down away from cops on the way?

:banana:

[fireball]

i am going to suggest pilot truck to carry gas....

also i reckon i can do it on a mini chopper!

[Big Dog]

i am going to suggest pilot truck to carry gas....

also i reckon i can do it on a mini chopper!

I was more thinking get some good natured soul to bring a support / sweep van.

[BiK3RChiK]

i am going to suggest pilot truck to carry gas....

also i reckon i can do it on a mini chopper!

Yeah, and a sweep van to pick up the bikes that don't make it!

Not for me, mate, but all the best...

M

[Pumba]

Shit this sounds like a bit of fun, know just to find a bike for that sort of money that meets the criteria

[xwhatsit]

Heh, the 250RS almost qualifies -- instead I think I'll come along to be one of the `fast guys' :lol:

By June? I think there might be a suitable bike of 70s vintage coming up.

Anyway, I'm leaving in 10 minutes for a four-day holiday up Norf. I'll show you guys some pics of the 250RS when I get back -- she's a full-dress tourer! :laugh: Going up hills is going to be tedious. Might give you lot some ideas.

[CookMySock]

Yeah, and a sweep van to pick up the bikes that don't make it!nah just take a shovel so you can bury them.. lol.. cremate them first perhaps ?

DB

[Hitcher]

Just to clarify, this ride is from Auckland to Cape Reinga?

Is riding back to Auckland afterwards a requirement?

As well as the price consideration, how about making it also a requirement that the bikes participating must have travelled at least 50,000km?

[Crisis management]

I may be interested but if your going to include back up vehicles and other / fast bikes then I don't see the point.

Keep it pure with cheap, crappy bikes and no support and it will be a great adventure and everyone will get something out of it, learning from and enjoying the cock ups and disasters.

You'll need to pick an interesting route as well, there is (again) no point in merely scooting up SH1 and back again, how about following the unsealed back roads on each coast and getting off the road as much as possible.

I'll watch this thread with interest.

[deanohit]

Well, my bike is 200cc, a pile of crap, won't sit on 100 up hill (sometimes not even along the straight!) and worth less than $1000 (probly less than $500).

Do I qualify?
I'm always keen for a trip like this!

[soundbeltfarm]

i'l watch with interest too. could be a go, any naki riders be keen?

[motorbyclist]

bugger, those "entry restrictions" exclude the fxr150

my pocket rocket will do 40kph on level road, but no way am i getting that road legal and no way will it even last as long as orewa

[fireball]

i have a bike in mind to do this on already...

so who is going to be on an SJ50?!

[Big Dog]

Just to clarify, this ride is from Auckland to Cape Reinga?

Is riding back to Auckland afterwards a requirement?

As well as the price consideration, how about making it also a requirement that the bikes participating must have travelled at least 50,000km?

Trying to make this possible for all who wish to enter which is why the spend and cc choice or just completely inappropriate.

[Big Dog]

I may be interested but if your going to include back up vehicles and other / fast bikes then I don't see the point.
I don't want bikes entered that are fast.
But I don't want to exclude bikes that students are commuting on if they are sufficiently inappropriate.

To wit the fast group would be travelling at 60-80 max speed.
The slow group would be any one speed limited to 50kms..

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scoo ter::scooter::scooter:

[Big Dog]

Well, my bike is 200cc, a pile of crap, won't sit on 100 up hill (sometimes not even along the straight!) and worth less than $1000 (probly less than $500).

Do I qualify?
I'm always keen for a trip like this!

Hell yeah!

Bring it on!

[Big Dog]

bugger, those "entry restrictions" exclude the fxr150

my pocket rocket will do 40kph on level road, but no way am i getting that road legal and no way will it even last as long as orewa

Really? Please elaborate.

[Big Dog]

Just to clarify, this ride is from Auckland to Cape Reinga?

Is riding back to Auckland afterwards a requirement?

I would have thought that was obvious...:girlfight:

[Hitcher]

I would have thought that was obvious...

I was just checking see if some *Thelma and Louise* finale was planned at North Cape.

[rudolph]

Can i use my ZXR if i install a pushbike crank and go down the road yelling

"meh meh, fookinggg neooooowwww" ?????:whistle:


I can sponsor you, you can ride "Jodi" the party bike, but its a cop magnet

[Subike]

would my 1972 Suzuki AC 50 Maverick qualify?
mmmmm
Could be there for a laugh

[Gubb]

I'm dead keen, would struggle to get the funds together in time though, although it does give me something to work towards, as I was thinking of buying a dunger 250 and slowly doing it up anyway.

[Gubb]

I'm thinking of a Dual Purpose bike, something that I may be able to hand on to, and have a little fun on after the trip.

Any ideas?

[Kevmo7]

my mate Zanda rode a GN250 to rotorua (from auckland) and on the way back it blew up lol

Gn250 or Gn125 would be classic

[motorbyclist]

Who would be keen to do a Cape Rienga (SP?) challenge?

The challenge:
Bike must cost < or = $1000 have a current warrant and reg (or be completely unsuitable to the journey at hand).
The bike must have less than 200cc or a flat out top speed of less than 120.
The bike must not be capable of cruising at 100.



bugger, those "entry restrictions" exclude the fxr150

my pocket rocket will do 40kph on level road, but no way am i getting that road legal and no way will it even last as long as orewa


Really? Please elaborate.

fxr will "cruise" at 100kph... and cost about 2 grand


and the pocket rocket will struggle to hit 50kph, probably need lights etc to get a rego, and will rattle to pieces, seize, or simply throw a tantrum and cease to run at the worst possible time (at which point the pullstart will snap)

plus i'd need to bring alot of premix

[motorbyclist]

actually, i suppose that makes the pocket rocket the best vehicle possible dunnit?

did i mention no suspension?

[Ixion]

The problem I see with this is that the terms of engagement would allow some bikes to enter for which it would be no challenge at all

An older scruffy RG150. Or something like a YCS Yamaha (180/200 cc two stroke). Or even an X5 Suzuki. Just a quick blast up and back. A CB200 would be slower but still a comfortable cruise.

In the spirit of the thing an AX100 would be the obvious choice .

[jrandom]

I could probably borrow me mate's Peugeot Snake 50cc scooter for the mission.

I'd be dead keen on doing a run to the Cape and back on that if there was at least one other person on a Mighty 50 of some sort to accompany me.

Who's game?

Edit: I'm pretty sure the Spirit of the Thing requires a route up SH16 and SH12 and back down SH10. :yes:

[Big Dog]

The problem I see with this is that the terms of engagement would allow some bikes to enter for which it would be no challenge at all

An older scruffy RG150. Or something like a YCS Yamaha (180/200 cc two stroke). Or even an X5 Suzuki. Just a quick blast up and back. A CB200 would be slower but still a comfortable cruise.

In the spirit of the thing an AX100 would be the obvious choice .

Indeed, My old a100 / cb100 would be the bees knees for the intent.

At present I am thinking the PGO, but would rather try on something like an old a100.

[Big Dog]

I could probably borrow me mate's Peugeot Snake 50cc scooter for the mission.

I'd be dead keen on doing a run to the Cape and back on that if there was at least one other person on a Mighty 50 of some sort to accompany me.

Who's game?

Edit: I'm pretty sure the Spirit of the Thing requires a route up SH16 and SH12 and back down SH10. :yes:

The spirit of the thing is to have an adventure. Stop of at places where other kb'ers are meant to be and possibly raise some money for a charity and for the site.

But mostly the adventure.

[T.I.E]

Northern Rush

take some back roads would be great, real back block kinda stuff.
and is this all starting from auckland. or where?
check points would be good. just in case.
hows about the ninety mile beach section too? will ya run out of petrol? ro can ya make the distance?

and this is sounding interesting, if i cant ride i am on call with the van. but not on the beach itself.
how about small silly prizes, or do ya get a badge? T shirt lol.

[Disco Dan]

If I take a couple of HT leads off that should drop the CC's down a bit? :whistle:

[gijoe1313]

This is a foolish and madcap japery ... count me in! :o :innocent: :msn-wink:

[fireball]

I could probably borrow me mate's Peugeot Snake 50cc scooter for the mission.

I'd be dead keen on doing a run to the Cape and back on that if there was at least one other person on a Mighty 50 of some sort to accompany me.

Who's game?

Edit: I'm pretty sure the Spirit of the Thing requires a route up SH16 and SH12 and back down SH10. :yes:

i will be on a mini chopper or will rebuild my flat mates lil rooter honda scooter!

FOOKN NEEOOW

[Big Dog]

Northern Rush

take some back roads would be great, real back block kinda stuff.
and is this all starting from auckland. or where?
check points would be good. just in case.
hows about the ninety mile beach section too? will ya run out of petrol? ro can ya make the distance?

and this is sounding interesting, if i cant ride i am on call with the van. but not on the beach itself.
how about small silly prizes, or do ya get a badge? T shirt lol.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too specific.
Will nut the finer points out when we have confirmation of proof of concept.

I.E this is still a request for expression of interest.

A lot of work will need to go in to this. Too much to do with out enough interest.

[fireball]

plus the more of us going the funnier (and safer) it will be!

come on show your interest! do it you know you want to!

[T.I.E]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too specific.
Will nut the finer points out when we have confirmation of proof of concept.

I.E this is still a request for expression of interest.

A lot of work will need to go in to this. Too much to do with out enough interest.

make it interesting now, and people might be interested. idea is great some little hints about what it could be about would be a plan. im in, so when we going?

[Gubb]

I'm definately in.

[gijoe1313]

I be crusin' 'tardme fer a likely vehicle of madness to convey me on this journey! Already emailed some likely bods! :lol:

[EJK]

This is a foolish and madcap japery ... count me in! :o :innocent: :msn-wink:

Wahhh???? What are you gonna bring? lol

P.S. Can I join? I'll just tag along lol

[Gubb]

I be crusin' 'tardme fer a likely vehicle of madness to convey me on this journey! Already emailed some likely bods! :lol:

Ditto, you bid on mine, and i'll burn your Thesaurus.

[Nagash]

Hmm, I've got a CB200 and a Honda DJ 50cc scooter, the choices..

I'll express my interest then, should be a very painful laugh.

[fireball]

its going to be so much fun!
and muddy!:woohoo:

[koba]

Hmm, The A100 might be going then.
May have a slim chance if Str8 Jacket doesn't find this post....

Fark, Im stuffed then!

Still interested tho, may even be able to find an old bike. Would have to get it up to Auckland somehow tho, Wonder how I would do that...

[Ocean1]

Hmm, The A100 might be going then.
May have a slim chance if Str8 Jacket doesn't find this post....

Fark, Im stuffed then!

Still interested tho, may even be able to find an old bike. Would have to get it up to Auckland somehow tho, Wonder how I would do that...

Why not a Welly version dude?

[Gubb]

Hmm, The A100 might be going then.
May have a slim chance if Str8 Jacket doesn't find this post....

Fark, Im stuffed then!

Still interested tho, may even be able to find an old bike. Would have to get it up to Auckland somehow tho, Wonder how I would do that...
I've got space to put you up in Aucks until we take off.

[fireball]

and there is always room at my place.....

[Gubb]

and there is always room at my place.....
Is that because you only take up 1/8th of the bed?

:bleh:

[fireball]

so back on topic!
who has ideas on what bike they are going to be using?

[Gubb]

I'm bidding on this:
<img src="http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/30/59158630_full.jpg"></img>
1974 Suzuki K125.
Would make a cool restoration project too, and small enough to get the Missus interested in riding.

Three Birds, One Stone baby!

[Badger8]

Damn this sounds like a schweet idea.
I'm guessin a big dude on a poor little ginny isnt really improactical enough. Would be worth gettin a cheap thrasher for the fun tho! Always wanted a rat bike, just not much point in auckland :D

[fireball]

this is what im looking at...

[Badger8]

this is what im looking at...

niiiiiiiice :D
Wont last long on the beach tho! :laugh:

[fireball]

niiiiiiiice :D
Wont last long on the beach tho! :laugh:

thats the point! its a nutters challenge:laugh: and yep im a nutter! :first:

[gijoe1313]

I have my beady little eyes on this one ...

[Rotor]

you have to have a small bike first

[koba]

Why not a Welly version dude?


I've got space to put you up in Aucks until we take off.


and there is always room at my place.....

Could always try Ride the entry up!

Will see how things go financially and work wise, may be able to get a bike up there but things aint looking hopefull.
Would have 2 bring the better half along too of course.

[Mom]

Who would be keen to do a Cape Rienga (SP?) challenge?

The challenge:
Bike must cost < or = $1000 have a current warrant and reg (or be completely unsuitable to the journey at hand).
The bike must have less than 200cc or a flat out top speed of less than 120.
The bike must not be capable of cruising at 100.

Given that many of the people who would be interested in such a journey are students (nuff said) if you wish to sponsor a rider who you think cannot make it you may.

Bummed I cant join you, though my bike almost meets the value criteria (just a tad over mind). I would have loved to take part.....*sigh*

Unless I can convince you :innocent:

I guess a few bucks fuel money can be forthcoming if pressed :yes:

[fireball]

Could always try Ride the entry up!

Will see how things go financially and work wise, may be able to get a bike up there but things aint looking hopefull.
Would have 2 bring the better half along too of course.

your better half can hang out with mine.... and we can go riding! :2thumbsup

[Ocean1]

That might be inappropriate enough to qualify to have the $1000 spend and the max speed exempted.
I will have to see the finished results before I can offer a final ruling.

:Oi: I do inappropriate!

And I is old and decrepit, aaand I is unreliable and cheap.

Does I get to bring the Buell, does I mister, huh, huh?

[deanohit]

this is what im looking at...
Doing it in style huh chick! :headbang:
Easy rider anyone? :shutup:

[Nagash]

Well, i'll probably do it on my Suzuki FX125, $800 and seat like a plank which probably has a chance of actually making it, or the $250 Honda DJ1 who's speedo max's at 60.. that would be a painful ride but i'd be keen.

We keeping off the motorway then? Or just gonna get off and push 'em..

[Squiggles]

spose a really rattly gn doesnt count :crybaby: guess i need another bike then.

[Gubb]

GN is way to advanced for this.

Buy a crap-heap.

[fireball]

GN is way to advanced for this.

Buy a crap-heap.

GN are crap heaps like ho-bags :lol: but really get something that will be interesting!

[Str8 Jacket]

Would have 2 bring the better half along too of course.


your better half can hang out with mine.... and we can go riding! :2thumbsup


Hmm....... I just saw this will have to go and actually read the thread but should his "better half" be coming along to whatever this thread is about then she will be riding to!! :oi-grr:

:D

[fireball]

Hmm....... I just saw this will have to go and actually read the thread but should his "better half" be coming along to whatever this thread is about then she will be riding to!! :oi-grr:

:D

well your A100 is a perfect bike for the job at hand~ :dodge:

[Str8 Jacket]

Hmmm, Interesting. Now that I have actually read the thread I have a few things to say.....




In the spirit of the thing an AX100 would be the obvious choice .


Indeed, My old a100 / cb100 would be the bees knees for the intent.

At present I am thinking the PGO, but would rather try on something like an old a100.

Yes I own an A100.... And I would be very keen!


Hmm, The A100 might be going then.
May have a slim chance if Str8 Jacket doesn't find this post....

Fark, Im stuffed then!



Yes my dear you are!


Could always try Ride the entry up!



Me thinks that you could provide a support vehicle. One of which would transport MY A100 to Akld..... :p

[koba]

Bugger....

[Str8 Jacket]

Bugger....

Yep. Still though it looks like fun. What about your pittie?

[fireball]

Bugger....

SNAPPED!!!!!

its ok you guys are both welcome here just get another bike load up a truck and come on up!

you know you want to

[koba]

Yep. Still though it looks like fun. What about your pittie?

"WOF and REG" umm, yeah honest :Police: its an RG150E...

Could be possible.

[Str8 Jacket]

"WOF and REG" umm, yeah honest :Police: its an RG150E...

Could be possible.

Ah yeah. Well you bette be buying yourself an A or something similar then eh! :p

[deanohit]

Bugger....

Pillion behind her man, the mighty A should do it, the trips only about 1000km return! :dodge:

[Str8 Jacket]

Pillion behind her man, the mighty A should do it, the trips only about 1000km return! :dodge:

He, i'll have you know that we have pillioned on the A (AKA "The Ethiopian Vege Cart") before when I have needed a sober rider. Its fucken funny!!!

[deanohit]

He, i'll have you know that we have pillioned on the A (AKA "The Ethiopian Vege Cart") before when I have needed a sober rider. Its fucken funny!!!
Yea maybe so, and no doubt it would be funny, but 1000kms, thats dedication to the cause! :headbang:
Would be awesome entertainment value though.
I say go for it.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yea maybe so, and no doubt it would be funny, but 1000kms, thats dedication to the cause! :headbang:
Would be awesome entertainment value though.
I say go for it.

Hell no! I cannot afford a new piston and re-bore every few months!! But it would be damn funny!! :D

[The Pastor]

i dont have a bike that meets the criteria (cbr 250). but could i come along for shits n giggles?

you'd HAVE to make riding back down 90 mile beach COMPULSARY though :)

[Str8 Jacket]

i dont have a bike that meets the criteria (cbr 250). but could i come along for shits n giggles?

you'd HAVE to make riding back down 90 mile beach COMPULSARY though :)

Now that'd be lots of fun on an A100. I reckon its very do-able! :yes:

[T.I.E]

is this going ahead or what?
im keen to buy a machine but not untill i get the ok for this one off event.

how many numbers do you need to make it worth doing for yourself?

[Ixion]

Wof and rego requirment is a pain. And mopeds don't have WoFs.

[Str8 Jacket]

Wof and rego requirment is a pain. And mopeds don't have WoFs.

My A is currently both WOFed and Reg'd. However I am not certain that it will pass it nexts WOF!

[bungbung]

We need a Welli edition. Str8 has the A, I've the GL. There is a RG50 in Mercer st today with only 732km on the clock...

[Str8 Jacket]

We need a Welli edition. Str8 has the A, I've the GL. There is a RG50 in Mercer st today with only 732km on the clock...

Hell yeah!! Where would we go though? we could maybe even look at off-road type trip so we could get more people along that cant/wont WOF or reg their bike...

[koba]

As much as riding up to auckland and then to reianga and back sound like alot of fun and an awesome challenge I think, yes a local version would probably be more realistic to start with.

[motorbyclist]

Wof and rego requirment is a pain. And mopeds don't have WoFs.

wait, so i could just pay $70 and have a legal pocket rocket (under 50cc and 2.2KW) without any lights whatsoever?


We need a Welli edition. Str8 has the A, I've the GL. There is a RG50 in Mercer st today with only 732km on the clock...

why don't we all meet in the middle? like a mission to the ruapehu ski-field carparks?

sounds like a mint idea to me as i doubt a pocket rocket would handle the beach/mud very well

[fireball]

the requirement is road legal.
at this stage still just looking at numbers and its looking good to be a goer'
hey RM just drop the gearing a bit that will make it slower :lol:

[Ixion]

Well, they are supposed to be of WoF standard. And WoF or no WoF you must have lights at night. So a cop would certainly pull you up. But there are vintage bikes that have a WoF and no lights (never had them, being old)

You can register it OK, there's no compliance on a moped. And you don't need a WoF.

But- a cop can order it off the road as unsafe. And doubtless would. And insurance would be right out.

[motorbyclist]

Well, they are supposed to be of WoF standard. And WoF or no WoF you must have lights at night. So a cop would certainly pull you up. But there are vintage bikes that have a WoF and no lights (never had them, being old)

You can register it OK, there's no compliance on a moped. And you don't need a WoF.

But- a cop can order it off the road as unsafe. And doubtless would. And insurance would be right out.

hrmm, well insurance isn't an issue, but police is... reckon they would pick on me even if i'm in a group of other bikes? bah i doubt the thing would make it out of auckland anyway

[Big Dog]

Sounds like this might be thunder birds go!

Ok, so the basics, we have enough attendance.
Who do we want to try and raise some money for?
I would prefer it was an obscure charity. It would be a pitiful amount for say Red Cross but would mean a lot to a smaller charity.

When is good for every one?
Do some of you need time to locate and prep a bike?

Do we have any volunteers to provide sweep, medical or mechanical assistance?
Do we have any volunteers to help with the organising?

Do we have any suggestions for activities along the way?
Do we have any bike related donations to give away as prizes?

Do we have any recommendations about a motor camp to stay at, preferably with cabins or caravans or even an old barn or hanger at around the 3/4 mark? (Planning to go up Friday stay the night somewhere and then "summit" on Saturday return to site, have a good time and then head back Sunday)

Any other miscilaneous business?

[EJK]

I'll escort you guys lol

can I? lol

Btw, my accomodation up in Kaitaia was $25 dollars a night! Inclu free BBQ grill hire etc! :D FUCK YEAH

[deanohit]

When is good for every one?
Do some of you need time to locate and prep a bike?
Any time!
And already got my bike.

Do we have any volunteers to provide sweep, medical or mechanical assistance?
Do we have any volunteers to help with the organising?
I can do sweep and got my basic first aid cert. :doctor:
Sorry, but orgininsing ain't my strong point. :doh:

Do we have any recommendations about a motor camp to stay at, preferably with cabins or caravans or even an old barn or hanger at around the 3/4 mark? (Planning to go up Friday stay the night somewhere and then "summit" on Saturday return to site, have a good time and then head back Sunday)
Caravan park sounds cool, I'm happy to bring my tent. :niceone:

[EJK]

How about a tent camp beside the light house? :lol:

P.S. Sorry, I can't afford another bike but I really want to participate this event. I'll ride my FXR (not cheating am I?)

I'll be just a photographer through out the trip :D

[deanohit]

P.S. Sorry, I can't afford another bike but I really want to participate this event. I'll ride my FXR (not cheating am I?)
What rule excludes you bro?

[EJK]

What rule excludes you bro?

like "Not able to cruise at 100kph" lol

I can't wait! :D

Hope the FXR runs fine till then lol

orelse it'll fit the criteria better lol!

[deanohit]

Meh, load it up then, you can carry the drinks, a keg should do it, just dont bloody drop your bike.

I don't like frothed up beer!

[fireball]

hey big dog got myself sorted
you know ill be organizing this with you!
and have put alot of thought of who to donate to
two places pick one? they are outward bound (they did alot for me when i was there nice to give them something back) or
spirit of adventure.
dunno that is my thoughts on it both are trusts and dont tend to do fundraising drives and they shape young and old
what can i say im a sucker for the outdoors and ABL!
once we get a proposal done and printed up i can go around the bike shops and see what i can do (show some cleavage, smile sweetly you never know)

also write some letters to some big wig companies i know a guy who knows a guy etc etc...

i am yet to get a ride but have one sponsor already!

so lets get this puppy on the road!

can accommodate a few bikers on my lawn/floor and couches and space for bikes so thats not a problem before we go

BOOK YOUR SPACE NOW!!!!

[LilSel]

...


most of that sounds real cool babe

[deanohit]

and have put alot of thought of who to donate to
two places pick one? they are outward bound (they did alot for me when i was there nice to give them something back) or
spirit of adventure.

Not bad, this is an adventure after all!:2thumbsup
I'd be happy tring to raise some money for those guys.

[Ixion]

Meh, load it up then, you can carry the drinks, a keg should do it, just dont bloody drop your bike.

I don't like frothed up beer!

Now there's a good idea. Anyone on a bike that doesn't qualify for the run (too big, too fast, too dear) , gets to carry all the luggage, beer, tools, spare parts . Thus making things easier for the little ones, and justifying their existence.


It used to be possible to camp by the beach on one of the bays about two back from the cape. Turn off to the right and down some steep hills. Gravel back then. Not an official campsite, mind.

I'll be a starter if I can locate a bike .

[fireball]

Not bad, this is an adventure after all!:2thumbsup
I'd be happy tring to raise some money for those guys.


yeah i lean more towards outward bound of course its all from personal experience, i love that place!
plus how often does a student give something back to a school? :lol::lol:

[EJK]

Now there's a good idea. Anyone on a bike that doesn't qualify for the run (too big, too fast, too dear) , gets to carry all the luggage, beer, tools, spare parts . Thus making things easier for the little ones, and justifying their existence.


Thats a very good idea :yes:

[McDuck]

I will need a lot of time to get a bike sorted. And i think the spyrit of adventrure would be a fantastic charity.

[Badger8]

Lookin around for a bike, a few likely candidates below :lol:

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Old School Class :laugh:


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Or the chopper pit bike. Check out those ape hangers! :D


Nah, but in all seriousness, having trouble finding a suitable bike. Was hoping to do it on a motorcross style bike, but none are rego-and-WOF-able at under a grand. Might end up sticking on some mirrors and trying for a rego and wof, but dunno if i'd pull it off. Plus i outdo the max weight limit on most of them without any gear on :whistle:
Lookin like i might have to do it on a scooter, or if i cant find a bike i'll volunteer to be in the cage and load it up with people's gear so those poor little beasts actually have a chance of making it in one piece! :D

[Nagash]

A cage for gear would be bloody useful.. I've decided to do it on the scooter but
in terms of storage space, all it boasts is a basket up the front :2thumbsup

I don't reckon i'll participate in the sponsership side of things.. it'll be a bit of a stretch to get the money just for myself let alone other people aswell! But anything I have left over i'll chuck in the pot.

Personally, obviously I don't speak for all, I have no objections with sleeping on the side of the road, done it a few times and it really isn't all that bad.

I've started taking the scoot out for rides instead of the cruiser to familirise myself with it a bit better.. gotta find some gravel somewhere to practice on.

[Gubb]

I'm happy to help with some of the organising. Got my Comprehensive First Aid Cert as well, just in case.

Will need a bit to time to sort a bike out, but a road trip to get it is another part of the adventure. May need some help restoring/tinkering with it if anyones keen, I don't think i have enough tools.

Reckon Frosty might be up for it with his van?

[Big Dog]

Personally, obviously I don't speak for all, I have no objections with sleeping on the side of the road, done it a few times and it really isn't all that bad.
While this is a worthy sentiment, and I agree it is not difficult or bad, sleeping by the side of the road is not too difficult with one person doing it but if we get 30+ contenders it could be a bit of a hazard. I am thinking of the safety of the locals as well as the contenders. Especially should it rain. Ride is on if wet or cold, all part of the challenge, I am however not confident that the locals would not object to 30 wet and bedraggled bikers were going door to door looking for a bed.

The ideal would be if someone knew someone with a farm that had a barn we could use. Or a paddock to make camp in.

Also if we have a campsite having a few beers and a feed is more practical without getting arrested.

[motorbyclist]

Personally, obviously I don't speak for all, I have no objections with sleeping on the side of the road, done it a few times and it really isn't all that bad.


yeah, all this organising, i feel, is contrary to the spirit of the thing. even those "entry requirements" are a bit silly as they exlude alot of bikes still horribly suited to this journey (like an old xr200 is still worth over a grand, but would otherwise be perfect) - as soon as you get sponsorship we may be obligated to stick to those requirements, which will only exclude riders who otherwise would be fine to come (50cc scooters, fxr 150 etc are mostly over a grand)


i was under the impression we were just going to get some ridiculously unsuitable/shitty bikes and go on a ride to somewhere ridiculous and have senseless fun as bikes start falling to bits. obviously we'd need a car or two, with a trailer/van to carry broken machines and their riders, but that was about the extent of it


once we've got a route, we can look at a campsite or accomodation. i'm all for having an actual bed - but whenever i camp on a ride i just find some backroad and set up on the grass verge down the side


doesn't mean i wont come, but i'd probably do it on the fxr.

[Nagash]

True about the large amount of numbers going.. completely forgot about that..

I reckon it would actually be somewhat important to set up a proper route then so we can actually start to look for farms or something that may be able to assist us. I reckon we could probably get away with just bringing a whole load of tents (if someone's willing to take a hit and drive a cage) and just set up in fields and hope to hell the farmer's are friendly..

And yeah.. dry weather would be nice but who needs it. It all adds to the hilarity.

[Big Dog]

yeah, all this organising, i feel, is contrary to the spirit of the thing. even those "entry requirements" are a bit silly as they exlude alot of bikes still horribly suited to this journey (like an old xr200 is still worth over a grand, but would otherwise be perfect) - as soon as you get sponsorship we may be obligated to stick to those requirements, which will only exclude riders who otherwise would be fine to come (50cc scooters, fxr 150 etc are mostly over a grand)


i was under the impression we were just going to get some ridiculously unsuitable/shitty bikes and go on a ride to somewhere ridiculous and have senseless fun as bikes start falling to bits. obviously we'd need a car or two, with a trailer/van to carry broken machines and their riders, but that was about the extent of it


once we've got a route, we can look at a campsite or accomodation. i'm all for having an actual bed - but whenever i camp on a ride i just find some backroad and set up on the grass verge down the side


doesn't mean i wont come, but i'd probably do it on the fxr.

Rules are still open to discussion.
As stated, if it is judged to be suitably inappropriate then any bike will do.
The rules posted were more of a guideline for proof of concept.

[motorbyclist]

right, so are we all meeting at ruapehu, or going north from auckland?

i like the idea of everyone heading from wherever they are and meeting in one spot to climb the mountain

[Weaver]

I feel that having a cage to carry tent and shit is getting away from the whole idea of the ride. So is using 201cc+ bikes to carry the crap.
Unsuitable bike loaded right up with tents and shit would be even cooler.

I've got a work mate with an old CB200 thats been sitting in his garage for the last ten years. Might offer him a couple dozen for it.

[Big Dog]

I feel that having a cage to carry tent and shit is getting away from the whole idea of the ride. So is using 201cc+ bikes to carry the crap.
Unsuitable bike loaded right up with tents and shit would be even cooler.

I've got a work mate with an old CB200 thats been sitting in his garage for the last ten years. Might offer him a couple dozen for it.

The whole idea is to be as challenged as you believe you can manage. The challenge is the point not the destination.

For some people taking a M50 with saddle bags and a support car would be a challenge.

[motorbyclist]

we will still need a support car with trailer or a van or ute or something to carry the bikes that fail

[Badger8]

Hrm, tis looking more and more like i may be cage-bound for the journey. Having no luck tracking down a suitable bike that i believe has a shit show of making it. I'm all for a challenge, but i'd like to have a fighting chance of making it too...

The family lives up north, could probably throw a box of beer at the old man and borrow his big ol' 4wd and trailer for the weekend. Seats 7 comfortably (we've had 9 in it tho :bleh:) for broken bodies, and a trailer for broken bikes.
They're planning to move to kerikeri this year, so if they're moved by the time we go, i'm sure a bottle of the cap'n would get us a lawn to camp on and a bbq to use.

All just ideas at this stage, we'll have to see how things pan out. Never know, may find me a bike tomorrow! :D

[fireball]

i believe this is challenge by choice.
its auckland to the cape and back on a bike that cant cruise at 100.
an fxr is fine it is a commuter bike and is inappropriate for such a ride (sorry ej)


i also have someone willing to print shirts for us still working out the fine points but its another sponsor.....

[fireball]

remember you have until about june ish to get your bike :niceone:

[breakaway]

I volunteer to be tail end / luggage bitch (I will bring the 650) if the timings of this event fit in with my work hours.

[deanohit]

What kind of saftey marshaling will there be?

Does it matter?

I'm keen as long as we have a route and somewhere to stay. This is supposed to be a challenge after all.

[Big Dog]

What kind of saftey marshaling will there be?

I would expect that this would be a stage event.
Several mustering locations (photo ops etc), however ultimately you are responsible for getting there yourself.

I would strongly recommend that when more is known about who is riding what it may be a good idea to group together in teams and have some team challenges along the way (e.g Collect photos that match the criteria etc).

If we have a volunteer to drive there will be a sweep vehicle but this is a not for profit event. As such there will be waivers to be signed accepting that there are no marshals, no closed roads and no responsiblity accepted.

Besides, it would kind of defeat the purpose of the activity if we were to guarantee you a safe journey.

[Big Dog]

Yes but these little bikes will be very exposed....

Most traffic will continue to obey the law.

I strongly recommend the use of fluro vests.

We will not be traveling at night unless we failed to make it to camp by dark.

I strongly recommend teamwork to help keep you safe.

[Big Dog]

I am not concerned about a garentey, more that steps are taken.

Essentially we will endeavor to have a sweep vehicle.

Hopefully there will be some mechanically capable sods willing to travel at the back.

I encourage any of you with no prior certification or experience to sit their first aid course or if you are current to bring first aid kits and advise who you are.

I intend to discuss this with the police in order to minimise their interference when our little gang of hardcore bikers pass through townships.

If anyone knows any ambo staff who might be keen to join the fun then all the better.

HOWEVER: If this requires more than a support van and the participants to look after each other we might as well can it now.

[Badger8]

I am not concerned about a garentey, more that steps are taken.

The old big enough and ugly enough comes to mind... :whistle:

I'd say (or at least hope) that we're all big enough and ugly enough to look out for ourselves and one another.

[Badger8]

Also just FYI, i have my first aid cert (work is good for something after all), and a reasonable supply of hi-vis vests if anyone needs one. Pretty handy mechanically too :yes:

[deanohit]

I'd say (or at least hope) that we're all big enough and ugly enough to look out for ourselves and one another.
I'm with you there mate. :Punk:

And the Hi-Vis is a good idea seeing as most of the time we'll be below the open road speed limit. :scooter:

[Ixion]

Bloody oath, it's riding to the Cape we're after talking about, not riding to the moon.

Start bike . Get on. Align northish. Ride. Anything breaks or falls off, kick bike , swear , fix bike. Ride.

Stick to the back roads (maybe gravel, but the bikes we're talking of will be fine on gravel).

It's not that big a deal

I'd say there and back in the day, but to do that y' really need to do it midsummer for the light. It's about a 16 hour ride.

But one night should be enough.

[deanohit]

Now that sounds like a plan Ixion, but we gotta have the 1 night camping for comparing bikes and general shit talking. :laugh:

[Badger8]

I think with the calibre of bikes going, and the casual (at best) pace we will be taking, the best idea i've heard so far is to head up fri to somewhere like kerikeri or kaitaia. Park up for the night, drink and be merry, frazzle up a feed, enjoy the crisp clean northland air :sunny: and look at all them twinkly star thingies you dorklunders have heard so much about (gee, can you tell i'm a northland boy? :bleh:)
Taking account of numerous fuel stops for the smaller tanked among us, and re-group stops, mechanical stops, photo stops, we will soon be running short of light if we try to bite off too much in one go.

Anyway, where the heck was i?... :confused:

oh yeah. Head to the peak on sat, pootle about, take lots of stupid photo's in stupid poses (superman dives over the open ocean anyone? :lol:), and cruise back to base camp before the sun sets.

Another enjoyably uncomfortable night, and we leave the mighty north on sunday to return to the mighty metropolis that is dorklund.

You never want to rush an adventure! :rockon:

[Badger8]

Some of us live a fair way from the start point...

Dude, comin from napier (especially on an inappropriate steed), would definitely recommend gettin to auckland a day or two before :yes: I'm sure someone can put you up for a day before and after. Would volunteer m'self, but unfortunately not much room in casa-de-badger

[Ixion]

OK. Thinking about a route here.

No point sticking to the main roads on bikes like these. back roads , the speed will be lower anyway, and there's little traffic

SO :

Usual way up Old North
Ararimu valley rd
Forestry Rd
Kahikatea Flats Rd
Waitoki (gas ?)
(OR: Straight up SH17 to Kahikatea Flats Rd)
Waitoki Rd
Haruru Rd
Makarau
Burnside Rd
Wech Access Rd
Komokoriki
West Coast Rd
Woodcocks
Old Woodcocks Rd
Kaipara Flats
Hoteo
Tauhoa
SH16 to Wellsford (can't avoid a bit of main rd. All good roads and easy so far)

Worker Rd,, Wellsford Valley Rd to
Te Hana
SH 1 to Brynderwyn (sorry, don't knwo a way to avoid this bit without a major detour but is 80kph limit through Dome Valley)
Onto SH10. Worst of trafficed bits is over by now.
Paparoa
Paparoa-Oakleigh Rd
Mareretu
Moewhare
Hayward Rd
Maungakaramea Rd
Old School Rd
Snooks Rd
Wheki valley
Waiotama
Tangiteroria
Kirikopuni

(Could also get here the other way up , stick to SH12 all the way through Raupo, Bradleys Landing etc. It's not such good road though. Then to Sh14There may be good back roads between Sh12 and Sh14, I don't know that area, maybe someone can comment )

Then the classic route on Kirikopuni Valley Rd to
Parakao
Mangkahia Rd
Pakotai
Twin Bridges
Awarua
Tautaro
Kaikohe


Shouldn't be too much traffic along that route

Then back to Pakaraka
And a long long leg up Sh10 all the way through to
Mangonui and
Awanui

Traffic's not too bad that far North (they're insane , though), so could just stick to SH1 to Awanui.

Then just the long simple leg up the peninsula to the Cape.

And back.

Only thing I'm not sure about is petrol, north of Brynderwyn. Some of those places aren't that big.


Comments? Alternatives? Anyone know where there is petrol?

I know most of those roads, they're pretty good, nothing difficult. Few bits I haven't travelled in a good many years though so if someone knows them better and they've packed up, please say.

I suppose most of them are sealed nowdays, buggers are always doing that. Still be a good run though.

[Badger8]

OK. Thinking about a route here.

No point sticking to the main roads on bikes like these. back roads , the speed will be lower anyway, and there's little traffic

SO :

...Clipped...



Sheesh! i was just havin a squiz at the map m'self, but not as good as that! :niceone:
Petrol would be my main concern. I'll most likely have a 10L jerrycan strapped to me plus my tank incase me or a fellow steed needs it to limp to the next station. Most little townships that are only a few k's from the main drag wont have a station of their on. might pay to tuck back across to main townships from time to time, just my $0.02

the now 80k zone through dome valley could definitely work to our advantage, thought a lot of people just ignore it.
Do you know perchance how much mileage all these back roads will add? Was looking at the k's before, and even just via the main roads we're lookin at a fair haul for the small wheels.
Also, not sure all the bikes involved will be too at home on the gravel, but i guess it's all part of the adventure eh? :)

[Big Dog]

I don't know about anyone else but I will need to fill every 160 - 180 kms depending on terrain that could be every hundred given the three litre massive tank.
I plan to have a 5L petrol can with me.

[Ixion]

Well, GN250 is sweet on gravel. Most of the contenders would be. After all, back when they were new they HAD to be, the bastards hadn't sneaked out and sealed everything .

Dunno how much extra distance it adds, probably not that much , some of the route is more direct tha n the main roiads, sort of cuts straight uop the middle of the island.

Petrol's my worry, especially if it's a weekend.

[Big Dog]

Sheesh! i was just havin a squiz at the map m'self, but not as good as that! :niceone:
Petrol would be my main concern. I'll most likely have a 10L jerrycan strapped to me plus my tank incase me or a fellow steed needs it to limp to the next station. Most little townships that are only a few k's from the main drag wont have a station of their on. might pay to tuck back across to main townships from time to time, just my $0.02

the now 80k zone through dome valley could definitely work to our advantage, thought a lot of people just ignore it.
Do you know perchance how much mileage all these back roads will add? Was looking at the k's before, and even just via the main roads we're lookin at a fair haul for the small wheels.
Also, not sure all the bikes involved will be too at home on the gravel, but i guess it's all part of the adventure eh? :)

Based on my experience yesterday:
300 kms on the scooter is painful but not a big stretch.

Ergo I have about 4 months to get flexible enough to sit there for around 450 kms per day. No biggie.

[Ixion]

If there were enough riders you could split the group, some up the back roads , others on main road to avoid the gravel. Depends whether they fear gravel more than the traffic on the main roads.

But I think the last 20 or 30 kilometres to the Cape is still gravel, and no way round that.

Petrol is definately the problem. Especially the leg up the peninsula. There used to be a general store and petrol pump half way up (Houhora ? I think) . But I suppose that's gone now, another of the things some bastard has buggered off with in the last 30 years. The list is growing longer very day.

Is there any petrol north of Kaikohe ?

[Nagash]

Looks like a fairly good route to me,

For petrol, i'd also strap on a petrol can, 10L or so that could help others and myself.

I reckon it's a good idea to make it clear and bloody bovious that before putting your name up you should realise that this isn't an endorsed ride, it won't be safe and there is a chance some people are just not gonna make it, run outta petrol in the middle of god knows where.. whatever. Other than that, i reckon everyone still keen to go would be mental enough to do it whatever the weather.

Seeing as i'll be draggin' out a very old (early 80's to my memory) scooter, my max speed's about 50-60k's.. so hopefully I won't get left in the dust.

N' yeah, High-Vis vests will be nice, I'll be using an open-face helmet to show how fearless I am..

Really it's gonna be a piss around, and i'll be surprised if we actually end up going all the way and not just turning around after the first night stop over. Shall be interesting to see, just don't get too finicky about it!

[Badger8]

Well, GN250 is sweet on gravel. Most of the contenders would be. After all, back when they were new they HAD to be, the bastards hadn't sneaked out and sealed everything .

Dunno how much extra distance it adds, probably not that much , some of the route is more direct tha n the main roiads, sort of cuts straight uop the middle of the island.

Petrol's my worry, especially if it's a weekend.

Not worried for m'self, just not sure how well those 4" wheels on scooters will handle gravel :D

Actually just had a good look at your proposed route, looks pretty bloody spot on! :niceone: and yes, distance wise will be shorter than the main drag, and definitely less traffic (and more opportunity for them to get past us all)

[Badger8]

Really it's gonna be a piss around, and i'll be surprised if we actually end up going all the way and not just turning around after the first night stop over. Shall be interesting to see, just don't get too finicky about it!

NO PIKERS!!! :bleh:

No way i'm quittin without MAJOR troubles. what's an adventure if you give up halfway through? :confused:

[Nagash]

Not worried for m'self, just not sure how well those 4" wheels on scooters will handle gravel :D

I reckon the wee scooter wheels will do pretty will, I haven't tried rolling on gravel just yet but the lower centre of gravity will keep you upright I reckon.

[Badger8]

Petrol is definately the problem. Especially the leg up the peninsula. There used to be a general store and petrol pump half way up (Houhora ? I think) . But I suppose that's gone now, another of the things some bastard has buggered off with in the last 30 years. The list is growing longer very day.

Is there any petrol north of Kaikohe ?

I'm pretty sure there's gas north of Kaikohe, i'm pretty sure me and the old man filled up the boat at Houhora back in the day. Will check with the olds, they should know.

EDIT: There's surely gas at kaitaia too

[fireball]

well there is no way i am quitting, i dont start organizing something then pike once the rain comes what kind of southern girl would that make me?!
so ideas on who to hit up for sponsorship?

[Badger8]

I reckon the wee scooter wheels will do pretty will, I haven't tried rolling on gravel just yet but the lower centre of gravity will keep you upright I reckon.

Pile her high with gear and say that again :D

[Big Dog]

Whatever the prizes ride shirts etc are you will not be entitled to them if you turn back before the cape, short of a family emergency or complete breakdown.

[fireball]

For what its worth re gravel, a group of mates just did (ok a few months ago) whakatane up to waikarimuana (sp) in the wet on scooters. For those who dont know that is 100kms each way fo tight winding gravel road...

can you harden the fuck up?

excuse the language but come on... ADVENTURE look it up.....
this is going to be hard on every part of your mind and body, i would still do it with my hand back in a cast (looks probable) with a smile on my face.

its all i talk about at work to my customers and already getting offers of support and sponsorship.

[Nagash]

can you harden the fuck up?

excuse the language but come on... ADVENTURE look it up.....
this is going to be hard on every part of your mind and body, i would still do it with my hand back in a cast (looks probable) with a smile on my face.

its all i talk about at work to my customers and already getting offers of support and sponsorship.

You any closer to getting the mini chopper actually sorted? You're pretty small but I still reckon that bitch will murder you..

[deanohit]

if you turn back before the cape, short of a family emergency or complete breakdown.

Well fuck that mate, family can wait for a day, I'm in for the long haul! :2thumbsup

[fireball]

You any closer to getting the mini chopper actually sorted? You're pretty small but I still reckon that bitch will murder you..

im hard. some things in life look bigger than they really are, this is just a short 3 day ride, no worries

but still looking around for the right bike, you know the one that just says i will get you there. (or something):niceone:

[Nagash]

Was considering dropping this guy an email, see if he can give me a discount for 20 or so of these patches. I reckon they'd be quite fitting, 'Death or Glory' :lol:

[deanohit]

I reckon they'd be quite fitting, 'Death or Glory' :lol:
Oh hell yea! :rockon:

I vote this war cry of the ride!

[Badger8]

Was considering dropping this guy an email, see if he can give me a discount for 20 or so of these patches. I reckon they'd be quite fitting, 'Death or Glory' :lol:

:headbang:

[gijoe1313]

Was considering dropping this guy an email, see if he can give me a discount for 20 or so of these patches. I reckon they'd be quite fitting, 'Death or Glory' :lol:

I be in for some of that! "Give me death before dishonour!" "I'm Spartacus!"
"What, me worry?" "To hell n'back on a fiddy/hundy biscuit!"

[fireball]

this is going to KICK ASS!!!!

as deano said 250 ride of the year

well maybe.... the under 250 ride!:banana:

[motorbyclist]

Bloody oath, it's riding to the Cape we're after talking about, not riding to the moon.

Start bike . Get on. Align northish. Ride. Anything breaks or falls off, kick bike , swear , fix bike. Ride.

Stick to the back roads (maybe gravel, but the bikes we're talking of will be fine on gravel).

It's not that big a deal

I'd say there and back in the day, but to do that y' really need to do it midsummer for the light. It's about a 16 hour ride.

But one night should be enough.

i agree with all of that except one bit: gravel

the pocket rockets/mini choppers don't have suspension so little 6.5" rims with slicks on gravel without susension on a chinese bike prone to rattling to pieces even in a smooth carpark maybe isn't something we want to do too much of... probably have to carry them across any mud - and the pocket rockets don't even have proper seats:baby:


Some of us live a fair way from the start point...

that's why i like the idea of everyone leaving in groups from their towns and meeting up along the way to one central destination... a Ruapehu hill climb :D


Ok how far does a road legal pitbike or street magic go before it needs refueling up?

no long at all; a 2 stroke with a 1.5L tank will get a little over an hour depending on how you ride it

at 40kph obviously this is a problem.... will just have to keep a few cans of premix in the car/van i guess

[Nagash]

i agree with all of that except one bit: gravel

the pocket rockets/mini choppers don't have suspension so little 6.5" rims with slicks on gravel without susension on a chinese bike prone to rattling to pieces even in a smooth carpark maybe isn't something we want to do too much of... probably have to carry them across any mud - and the pocket rockets don't even have proper seats:baby:

I was under the impression that no pocket rocket's are going, you'd have to pay real money to make 'em legal and that's just plain ridiculous.

As for mini choppers... I reckon they'd do alright.

[motorbyclist]

I was under the impression that no pocket rocket's are going, you'd have to pay real money to make 'em legal and that's just plain ridiculous.

As for mini choppers... I reckon they'd do alright.

yeah, good point


forgot i was bringing the fxr:scooter:

[fireball]

ok guys here it is the draft layout of the CC CHALLENGE.....
as this is only a draft your comments are more than welcome and all feedback will be noted and considered for the final ride!

WHAT: CC Challenge

WHY: To raise funds to be donated to the running of this site and a donation to Outward Bound, also as a personal challenge THIS IS NOT A RACE

WHERE: Auckland to the Cape

WHEN: Friday 6th June 2008 due to be back in Auckland on Sunday 8th June 2008

MEET POINT: The bottom carpark (next to the outlet stores) at Westgate shopping center. We will be meeting at 6am SHARP, with a brief before we DEPART at 7am. we dont need typical late bikers.

ENTRY CRITERIA: This is open to anyone who meets the following criteria.
Bike must cost no more than $1000, have a current warrant and reg (or be completely unsuitable to the journey at hand). Your bike MUST be ROAD LEGAL
The bike must have less than 200cc or a flat out top speed of less than 120.
The bike must not be capable of cruising at 100.
If you are unsure if your bike meets the criteria feel free to PM one of the organizers to verify, either BigDog or myself, it will not be discussed in the thread until a ruling has been provided please PM one of us if you are unsure.

ROUTE PLAN: At this stage Ixion's route seems a suitable one, but any suggestions are welcome. a map will be attached once the route has been marked out and finalized so watch for that.

RISKS: As you are all aware this is ENTRY AT YOUR OWN RISK we will be on open roads in all weather conditions, you are responsible for your own safety. ALL RIDERS MUST HAVE the appropriate clothing for the ride and be wearing a HI-VIS vest, this is for your safety. As we are riding in a group there shouldnt be to many issues out there with traffic.
If you have first aid certification please let me know.
also it is a recommendation to carry a first aid kit and a puncture repair kit as we will be on gravel roads.

COST: There will be an entry cost to this event this is yet to be decided on the amount and all funds go into the kitty to be donated, also at this stage we anticipate some costs for food (beers and BBQ) and accommodation for both nights or if there is a friendly biker out there that doesnt mind letting us sleep on your lawn or paddock for a night drop me a line.

SWEEP VAN/TRUCK: We need a volunteer/s to drive behind as a safety car and a sweep vehicle. WE CAN NOT RIDE UNLESS WE HAVE ONE this is also for safety reasons. So drop me a PM if you can provide your service.

[Gubb]

Yea, there are big hills between here and taupo that the scoot would not get uo. I guess i could do here, up to gizzy then to whakatane, stay with olds then head up to aucks the next day?

I have a spare bed. Anyone is more than welcome to it.

[Gubb]

Will see if I can con the Missus into Driving the Wagon+Trailer behind us.

[EJK]

Is there any petrol north of Kaikohe ?

Last time when I went there, the "Last Petrol Station" was closed. The pumps were there but the station was closed (maybe it closes early i dunno)

I think 10l gas bottle is a good idea :)

[westie]

I'd be keen to help out as support mech. I have seen loads of number eight wire and farm gate hinges to fix bikes with up there.

[Nagash]

That brief looks all good to me, i'll start setting some cash aside for food and what not and also i'll look more seriously into getting those patches. Nothing like a patch to hold a memory.

[koba]

Brief looks good to me so far too.

[Str8 Jacket]

Brief looks good to me so far too.

Shame that the bike doesnt...... :(

[koba]

Shame that the bike doesnt...... :(

That one I was going to look at fitted the criteria too.

Going back when we did was the best choice still.

[Pumba]

Is there any petrol north of Kaikohe ?

There is a petrol station at Houhora, and there are petrol pumps at Waitiki Landing. My understanding is that you cant rely on the pumps at Waitiki Landing to be open (and you will pay a small fortune for stale 91 octane fuel).

Well this was the case when we did the Northern Exposure Tour over aniversery weekend, if it has changed since then, sue me:bleh:

[fireball]

ok guys so any ideas as to who to hit up for sponsorship?

[Gubb]

That brief looks all good to me, i'll start setting some cash aside for food and what not and also i'll look more seriously into getting those patches. Nothing like a patch to hold a memory.
I'm in for a patch, and a Tour Shirt.

[fireball]

i have the printing of shirts taken care of thanks to a wonderful sponsor!
we just need to find someone to donate shirts and i will get them printed up!

i am accepting ideas on graphic designs for shirts SO GET CREATIVE

a prize will be awarded to whom ever has the right design that will be used.

[Badger8]

The official word (from mum :bleh:) is that there is petrol at both Houhora/ Pukenui, and the last gas is at Waitiki Landing, about 24km from the top. But as has been mentioned, cant rely on them to be open, and will be PAINFULLY expensive. Last normal (or at least close to normal) priced gas will be at Kaitaia.

I have a couple of spare hi-vis vest if people cant find one, and may be able to lay my hands on a few more for the weekend if needed.:rockon:

[gijoe1313]

Score! I have located my ride and will be flying down to Palmy to ride it back up to Dorkland :woohoo:

Muwhahaha! My very first soozookey! :devil2: Now I can get some retro riding gears! Pudding helmet, aviator glasses, a short silk scarf, Hallenstein faux-leather jacket/bomber jacket, bellbottom jeans and workboots!

(Yes, I know, I am asian after all and go the full quid .. mind you, I should just ask Ixion, he seems to summit 'ave this clobber kickin' around in his back closet somewheres! :shifty:)

[gijoe1313]

wot is it?

A100 '83 heeheehee ... :Punk::done:

[deanohit]

Breif sounds all good to me Fireball and that route looks to be a ripper Ixion.
Good going guys.

[EJK]

Score! I have located my ride and will be flying down to Palmy to ride it back up to Dorkland :woohoo:

Muwhahaha! My very first soozookey! :devil2: Now I can get some retro riding gears! Pudding helmet, aviator glasses, a short silk scarf, Hallenstein faux-leather jacket/bomber jacket, bellbottom jeans and workboots!

(Yes, I know, I am asian after all and go the full quid .. mind you, I should just ask Ixion, he seems to summit 'ave this clobber kickin' around in his back closet somewheres! :shifty:)

You are crazy :innocent: lol

[deanohit]

You are crazy :innocent: lol

He's a good kind of crazy though! :lol:

Although sometime you've gotta wonder.

[gijoe1313]

He's a good kind of crazy though! :lol:

Although sometime you've gotta wonder.

takes one to know one :stupid::bleh: And I'm not crazy, me, myself and I had a conference and its only agreed that I am eccentric since I have monies! :innocent:

[deanohit]

takes one to know one :stupid::bleh:

Ok you got me there, I did after all sign up to this ride as well! :2thumbsup

[Badger8]

He's a good kind of crazy though! :lol:

Although sometime you've gotta wonder.

Agreed :yes:
Crazy is interesting, normal is boring :rockon:

At least that's what the voices keep telling me :shifty:

[Nagash]

i have the printing of shirts taken care of thanks to a wonderful sponsor!
we just need to find someone to donate shirts and i will get them printed up!

i am accepting ideas on graphic designs for shirts SO GET CREATIVE

a prize will be awarded to whom ever has the right design that will be used.

Clicky clicky (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Clothing/Menswear/Bulk-lots/auction-141840938.htm) 20 T-shirts of any colour for $170 here, we could all chip in for that I reckon.

Clicky #2 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Clothing/Menswear/Bulk-lots/auction-142145981.htm) 10 T-shirts of any colour or size for $90 'ere.


And yeah.. that's all I spotted on Trade Me. $170 divided by lets say 20 people? That's just $8.50 per person.. Make it $10 per T-Shirt for the charity cause. That sounds good to me..

[motorbyclist]

ok guys here it is the draft layout of the CC CHALLENGE.....
as this is only a draft your comments are more than welcome and all feedback will be noted and considered for the final ride!

WHAT: CC Challenge

WHEN: Friday 6th June 2008 due to be back in Auckland on Sunday 8th June 2008


what does CC stand for in the name?? why not call it the Triple C?:niceone:

as for that date, how fixed is that? it just so happens to be the weekend between lectures ending and exams starting for us uni students, so getting up before noon on saturday isn't happening, and most of us will be too busy panicking about exams to prepare a bike/actually do the ride/deal with an injury:baby:

long story short, the 1st to 19th of july are the given dates for the inter-semester break

[Nagash]

as for that date, how fixed is that? it just so happens to be the weekend between lectures ending and exams starting for us uni students, so getting up before noon on saturday isn't happening, and most of us will be too busy panicking about exams to prepare a bike/actually do the ride/deal with an injury:baby:

long story short, the 1st to 19th of july are the given dates for the inter-semester break

But then after the 19th you'd have exams right? So it'd be unadvisable to do it at all after the 19th. So unless people are gonna be organised before that date I think the 6th is one of the few times to actually be able to do it.

[motorbyclist]

But then after the 19th you'd have exams right? So it'd be unadvisable to do it at all after the 19th. So unless people are gonna be organised before that date I think the 6th is one of the few times to actually be able to do it.

no, the 1st to the 19th is the break between semesters. so after exams and before lectures start again.

i would call it a holiday, but i just end up working

[shingo]

I'm definately interested in coming along on this, but would need the date to be changed to when motorbyclist has suggested.

Will just have to sort out a bike, hell i've got a goped in the garage, 25km/h top speed, now that would be an adventure :headbang:

[Gubb]

My auction closes at 7.25pm tonight.

Fingers crossed everyone.

[deanohit]

My auction closes at 7.25pm tonight.

Fingers crossed everyone.
Good luck mate! :soon:

[fireball]

no, the 1st to the 19th is the break between semesters. so after exams and before lectures start again.

i would call it a holiday, but i just end up working

as it was said this is a draft of the event.
i will let you know what can be done with the dates as soon as possible.

[Big Dog]

what does CC stand for in the name?? why not call it the Triple C?:niceone:

as for that date, how fixed is that? it just so happens to be the weekend between lectures ending and exams starting for us uni students, so getting up before noon on saturday isn't happening, and most of us will be too busy panicking about exams to prepare a bike/actually do the ride/deal with an injury:baby:

long story short, the 1st to 19th of july are the given dates for the inter-semester break
Cape Caper Challenge.
A dig at the lack of cc's in attendance.

[deanohit]

Cape Caper Challenge.
A dig at the lack of cc's in attendance.
Awesome name mate! :laugh:

[Big Dog]

PS. Glad to see so many of you have adopted links to this thread as your signature.
More the merrier, if you have friends you think may be interested they can register via you when we get organised enough to actually take registrations lol.

[fireball]

Awesome name mate! :laugh:

it took us all night to think of it :lol: nahh just a few names back and forth......


also it will be running the 6th to the 8th THE DATE WILL NOT CHANGE

[motorbyclist]

probably can't come then :(

[Big Dog]

Unfortunately the date has to be fixed now, otherwise there is no way to properly plan for the trip.
It is unfortunate if one or more persons can not make it on the date but it has to be fixed or we will only end up making it so someone else can't make it on the new dates.

[fireball]

probably can't come then :(

hey its only 3 days of study... make the challenge harder bring your books......

[motorbyclist]

but it's rightbefore uni exams, and i imagine uni students will have a fair few suitable bikes for this trip... owell

we'll see how much i need to learn when the time comes and decide then

[Gubb]

w00t!

I won. I am now the proud owner of a 1974 Suzuki K125.

Single Cylinder, 2 Stroke, Twin Exhaust! Oh Yeah! What a crap heap. Will need help to restore it though.

Whopping total of $300.

[deanohit]

w00t!

I won. I am now the proud owner of a 1974 Suzuki K125.

Whopping total of $300.
Bwahahaha, what a score! :niceone:
Another one doin the ride in style. :cool:

[EJK]

You rock! lol

[deanohit]

also it will be running the 6th to the 8th THE DATE WILL NOT CHANGE
Is the date up on the calender yet?

[EJK]

I'll donate by buying some pucture kits and extra handy stuffs (which I learnt from my Kawakawa experience ;))

[deanohit]

I'll donate by buying some pucture kits and extra handy stuffs (which I learnt from my Kawakawa experience ;))
Dude, just stick some dual purpose tires on ya bike, then it'll be a mighty FI 150cc gravel muncher! :banana:

Skidiiiiiiiiiiieeeee!!!!!!!!!!

[Nagash]

Dodgey looking seller, but good luck if you get it!

A100's are bloody hilarious wee things.

[Nagash]

New trader, with a -1 feed back rating.

I s'pose with pick up only there isn't anything that could go wrong..

[fireball]

Is the date up on the calender yet?

it is going to be put up in ohh about 5 mins! i know lazy me!

come on guys get everyone you know involved!!!!

(i convinced dad he has to buy me a new helmet!):devil2:

[EJK]

What makes him dodgey?

4 unanswered questions and -1 rep star lol

[fireball]

I just had a brill idea. We are doing the ride for spirit of adventure trust and outward bound right? Lets finish the ride at spirit of adventure trust headquarters? Have a informal little ceremony giving a handful of cash etc?

it is for outward bound!

just got an email back from the CEO and he loves the idea and has let some of his other departments know about what we are doing! so we have their full support and they will be giving us a hand with getting it out there but will let you all know more as i get the information to hand.....

[Gubb]

i am looking at that this... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-142808982.htm

careful, he stole the Pic from this Auction, of a different bike!

See. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=141960281)

I wouldn't.

[Ixion]

Hm. Yes, that's an X5 not an AX100. he's also listed it as 150cc which an AX100 ain't. (nor is an X5 )

[fireball]

I thort we were splitting it between Spirit of adventure and outward bound?


read the draft mate all you need to know is there on page 12

[motorbyclist]

read the draft mate all you need to know is there on page 12

uh, we're only up to page 6.... well for me anyway

it's post #177 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1445654&postcount=177)

[Badger8]

Cape Caper Challenge.
A dig at the lack of cc's in attendance.

That's good, i was tryin to think of what it could stand for... all i could come up with was Craaazy Coonts! :shutup: :whistle:

[Badger8]

it is for outward bound!

just got an email back from the CEO and he loves the idea and has let some of his other departments know about what we are doing! so we have their full support and they will be giving us a hand with getting it out there but will let you all know more as i get the information to hand.....

Sounds awesome :)
We should make up signs to hang off our overloaded babies, have a donation bucket for anyone we chat to along the way who wants to make a donation etc... i'm getting more and more excited! :Punk::rockon:

Already put in for leave on the friday and the monday, figure i might need a day of recovery :bleh:

SOFTCOCK!!!

Who said that? :shifty:

[gijoe1313]

Only CCC's eez to be tast'in like theez! (For those who remember CC ads from oh so long ago! :pinch:)

Anyhow, sounds like Hubba Gubba and I are off for our own mini epic road trip to collect our rides from various places of plunder!

I can even use the pirate flag Arrrrr!

Avast there ye landlubbers!

[Gubb]

Avast there ye landlubbers!
Maybe that should read handgubbas!

[Badger8]

So i could take a real slow pice of shit 400 and it would count?
Just how the rules are read.

The rules are just a guideline mate, dont get hung up on the details and get into the spirit! :niceone:
An inappropriate steed, a trip to the cape, have a bloody good time with some bloody hard case folk, and raise some money for a bloody good cause :yes: Sounds like a recipe for success to me :wari:

[Nagash]

Flags aye.. i'm in the middle of creating flag poles for my cruiser, but I can make some up for the scoot aswell :D

Shall be fun.

[Badger8]

Flags aye.. i'm in the middle of creating flag poles for my cruiser, but I can make some up for the scoot aswell :D

Shall be fun.

"Death or Glory" flags anyone? :D :headbang:

[deanohit]

"Death or Glory" flags anyone? :D :headbang:

I'd fly one!
At the mo all I got is a :blank: for a flag.

[Gubb]

Count me in for a patch and a flag.

[kave]

Would this bike be suitable, or not acceptable due to number of wheels?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-143009370.htm?key=185009

[deanohit]

Would this bike be suitable, or not acceptable due to number of wheels?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-143009370.htm?key=185009
Definitely suitable due to the unsuitableness of it! 50cc, $1000, buggerall top speed, low mileage, over 12 years old, big as cooler on the back, just perfect!
I nominate you drinks carrier, that cooler on the back will hold more than a few coldies! :niceone:

[Nagash]

Would this bike be suitable, or not acceptable due to number of wheels?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-143009370.htm?key=185009

Hah! That's awsome!

And the guy says it'll make it to 50 so he'll keep up with the rest of us :lol:

Man it's gonna be a long slow ride...

[deanohit]

Hah! That's awsome!
Damn right thats an awesome rig for this ride!


Man it's gonna be a long slow ride...
Nah, it's only about a 1000kms round trip,




oh wait, at 50-60 most of the time!:scooter:

[Badger8]

Man it's gonna be a long slow ride...

Yup, tis not just a ride, TIS AN ADVENTURE! :niceone:
Argh me hearties!

Sounds like there'll be a few scoots that wont get much beyond 50 or 60k's. hence the spreading over three days :yes:
Never thought i'd be in the fast pack coz i'm capable of doing up to about 80k, but i dont think it'll be too far from the truth somehow! :lol:

[gijoe1313]

Now I'm seeing if I can make a rig for a sidecar on my little heap! :lol:

Need somewhere to stash my gears! :lol:

[Neon]

Man I gotta say this does sound like a lot of fun...

Is there going to be a cutoff date for joining in?

[Gubb]

That Gyro is amazing! Could cut off the roof, and make a wee Trailer from it.

Andy, it's never too late! Start browsing a bike now!

EDIT: Got my tow bar put on the Cage today, one step closer to a pre-CCC road Trip.

[Big Dog]

So i could take a real slow pice of shit 400 and it would count?
Just how the rules are read.

Not to good at reading are we?

Exemptions on any specific rule may be applied for by messaging fireball or myself.

If you feel the need to keep questioning the ride you clearly do not have the spirit to enjoy it. You may be happier on another ride.

[Big Dog]

Would this bike be suitable, or not acceptable due to number of wheels?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-143009370.htm?key=185009

Definitely inappropriate enough to receive an exepmtion.

[Big Dog]

Man I gotta say this does sound like a lot of fun...

Is there going to be a cutoff date for joining in?
Muster time.

[Badger8]

Not trying to shit stirr

Dude, come on, stop nit-picking and get into the spirit of it will you? :Playnice:
The idea is to go to the cape on an inappropriate bike, it's about the challenge, having some fun. If it's about rules then i think you might be in the wrong place? :done:

[fireball]

Dude, come on, stop nit-picking and get into the spirit of it will you? :Playnice:
The idea is to go to the cape on an inappropriate bike, it's about the challenge, having some fun. If it's about rules then i think you might be in the wrong place? :done:

thank you at least someone has it right.

[Badger8]

I cant be fucked reading through 300 odd posts of developments, no. And i plan on riding my entry there, which if i am stuck on a bike that can not SAFLY ride solo then i will not be coming.

The whole point is to be on an inappropriate bike, especially the lack of ability to cruise on the open rd. If you've gotta ride to aucks on it by yourself to make it to the start, then this may not be the best ride to join in on. Last thing we want is a bike down before the start line! :doh:

[deanohit]

Dude, come on, stop nit-picking and get into the spirit of it will you? :Playnice:
The idea is to go to the cape on an inappropriate bike, it's about the challenge, having some fun. If it's about rules then i think you might be in the wrong place? :done:

Spot on mate! :clap:

[deanohit]

Ok. I am for the ride. I am. i am also remembering when i went on spirit of NZ we got told 'if there is any injury caused by a mast on this ship THE CONCEPT is dead for ever, so be careful.'

Outward bound would also have similar safety problems. Do they want to be associated with a ride that somebody is killed or injured on? Just keep it in mind...

Getting to the ride is your own responsibility, these guys are doing what they can to give us the best chance of surviving, ideas like stick together and wear fluro.
If your worried about the trip up to the meet point, trailer your bike.

[Badger8]

Ok. I am for the ride. I am.


I'm starting to wonder... :confused:



Outward bound would also have similar safety problems. Do they want to be associated with a ride that somebody is killed or injured on? Just keep it in mind...

Seems to me like they're for the idea... :whistle:


it is for outward bound!

just got an email back from the CEO and he loves the idea and has let some of his other departments know about what we are doing! so we have their full support and they will be giving us a hand with getting it out there but will let you all know more as i get the information to hand.....

:calm:

[Big Dog]

Ok. I am for the ride. I am. i am also remembering when i went on spirit of NZ we got told 'if there is any injury caused by a mast on this ship THE CONCEPT is dead for ever, so be careful.'

Outward bound would also have similar safety problems. Do they want to be associated with a ride that somebody is killed or injured on? Just keep it in mind...

This has of course been considered.
Probability if injury or death? I would imagine less than a typical weekend away one up on the Katana.
Given the lower average speed, the team work etc.

This will mostly be about mental challenge rather than physical demand.
Pretty much anything should be able to make it the paltry 1,000 km's.


If you have genuine queries rather than a desire to troll and ruin the fun for everyone else I suggest you do so in a more positive / constructive manner.

[fireball]

Ok. I am for the ride. I am. i am also remembering when i went on spirit of NZ we got told 'if there is any injury caused by a mast on this ship THE CONCEPT is dead for ever, so be careful.'

Outward bound would also have similar safety problems. Do they want to be associated with a ride that somebody is killed or injured on? Just keep it in mind...


i have had it with you. stop your bitching and moaning if you dont like it fuck off we are not here to look after you, no one is making you do this and stop trying to make this into a negative thing i am putting a lot of effort and time into this and im not going to let you screw it up, and yes this is so worth the infraction im likely to get.

[Big Dog]

What we need to remember is we need to represent the organization we are supporting. Having fun, in a manner that stretches our understanding and self believes in the wilds of NZ. I dont know what outward bound are like, and if i am not suitable for the ride given the questions i am asking then so be it.
No one has said you are not welcome.
We have however questioned how much you will enjoy such a caper.

[fireball]

I have outlined my position in a PM to fireball.

and now that has been dealt with get this back on topic please

[fireball]

so how is everyone going with getting sponsors and ideas on who to approach?

and about accommodation up north any progress?

[Badger8]

My dad has a high vis vest with 'safty inspecter, could i wear that on the 'ride?'

Hi-vis is Hi-vis, the point being that's it's Hi-vis :yes:
I'll be wearing one from work with our logo on it, and have several from various jobs that i can lend out if needed. :niceone:

Actually, just had a thought. if it's got it in big letters all across the back, might not be so suitable :Oops: I can lend you a plain one if needed, not a problemo :)

[Big Dog]

i have had it with you. stop your bitching and moaning if you dont like it fuck off we are not here to look after you, no one is making you do this and stop trying to make this into a negative thing i am putting a lot of effort and time into this and im not going to let you screw it up, and yes this is so worth the infraction im likely to get.

Exactly what Outward Bound is all about if I recall... finding safety in teamwork while the guides leave you largely to your own devices beyond a schedule.

Correct me if I am wrong but there is very little "hand holding".

[Badger8]

so how is everyone going with getting sponsors and ideas on who to approach?

and about accommodation up north any progress?

I've never been much good with getting sponsors for stuff... to me it always sounds like "i'm doing somethin stupid, giz some money for it will ya?"
i know that's not it at all, i just suck at that sorta thing :D

No joy on the accommodation front at this stage. i might be able to get us a front lawn in kerikeri, but is dependent on too many factors to say yes at this stage. Something closer to kaitaia way would probably be more suited anyways, closer to the cape for the up-and-down jaunt on sat, the more time for photo's and shenanigans the better :yes:

[fireball]

I can lend you a plain one if needed, not a problemo :)

LilSel has a few plain ones they are not hard to get and are cheap as chips if you the right people....

[FROSTY]

My only question--Is there such a thing as an Innapropriate bike?
at 16 I was touring rhe NI on a honda CB100--80km/h flat out