Doing the runner

[**R1**]

Now im new to KB and dont know if this has come up b4 but....in the interest of public safty how fast do you have to go b4 the coppers call it off??? i usaly take off at full noise till i cant see them anymore, but that can reach speeds well over 250k. seems a tad dangerous, to the coppers on here do you have a set limmit that you cant exceed?

now i know people will go nuts about this thread, and so if i gave 2f$#ks about public safty i would stop, but realy i dont care, but its the coppers job to protect public safty so if the chase is reaching crazy speeds they must pull out??? i heard of a guy the other day had coppers chasing him down the highway at 220k's how safe is a car at that speed???? i know cars cant even closly keep up with a bike at speed around twisties, so should the coppers even try? in some parts of the world they have realised this and now have zero pusuit of bikes, but use choppers etc to catch them. perhaps its time NZ did the same??

Also whats the penalty for failing to stop??

[merv]

Is that a gun pointing at your head in your avatar? Just pull the trigger, that will fix your problem.

[Racer X]

Go as fast as you can as early as possible - and if there's heaps of traffic, then thats to your advantage as well.. I've only run once or twice - if I hadn't it woulda been jail :pinch:

[Quasievil]

Well having caught a guy on a VTR doing over 200km/hr in a commodore hp car go for it, I just hope you kill yourself alone and not someone in my family dickhead:finger:

[spudchucka]

No bike can outrun a radio. They all get whats coming to them eventually. Its better if they just vaporise themselves though, then we get the pleasure of shovelling their guts into a plastic bag and taking it home to their mummy's.

[MSTRS]

No bike can outrun a radio. They all get whats coming to them eventually. Its better if they just vaporise themselves though,
Time waits for no man, But physics is patient eh??

[Motoracer]

Now im new to KB and dont know if this has come up b4 but....in the interest of public safty how fast do you have to go b4 the coppers call it off??? i usaly take off at full noise till i cant see them anymore, but that can reach speeds well over 250k. seems a tad dangerous, to the coppers on here do you have a set limmit that you cant exceed?

now i know people will go nuts about this thread, and so if i gave 2f$#ks about public safty i would stop, but realy i dont care, but its the coppers job to protect public safty so if the chase is reaching crazy speeds they must pull out??? i heard of a guy the other day had coppers chasing him down the highway at 220k's how safe is a car at that speed???? i know cars cant even closly keep up with a bike at speed around twisties, so should the coppers even try? in some parts of the world they have realised this and now have zero pusuit of bikes, but use choppers etc to catch them. perhaps its time NZ did the same??

Also whats the penalty for failing to stop??The person doing the runner isn't the only one who has high levels of adrenaline pumping through his/her veins. The cop will be just as much commited to catch you as you will be to get away.

One of the main role of a cop is to be an authority figure. When someone disobeys the law and runs from it, you will make the cop like this => :angry2:

Most cops follow the rules, and they will do their job by stopping the chase in the name of public safety once the speeds exceed a given speed over a certain period of time (I don't have the figures).

However some cops don't really follow the rules by the book 100%. I have heard that at times, when they have been told to discontinue a pursuit, all they do is switch of the lights and siren and continue the chase. It'll be a cat and mouse thing after that, until they catch you or you crash and die or you get away. If you happen to kill your self or someone else, the cops can always say, "they already gave up prior to you crashing" (unless witnesses can prove otherwise).

Don't know about Church, but I know that there have been instances where a chopper has been called out for a bike pursuit here in AKL.

[Riff Raff]

I've seen too many innocent people killed because of arseholes like you. The sad thing is, the ones who recklessly endanger other peoples lives usually come away relatively uninjured. I don't know how they can live with themselves afterwards. Do you know how soul destroying it is to look at the body of a baby that was killed in a car crash cos some fuckwit got a kick out of being a complete and utter tosser? Fucking grow up!

[Bonez]

Fucking grow up! I second that motion. :bash:

[James Deuce]

There has been so much shit like this on this site in the last few days. I really, really need the entertainment. Spud's replies are becoming increasingly pithy, and, well, funny!

Keep 'em coming you trolls. You guys are hilarious.

[Yokai]

No bike can outrun a radio. They all get whats coming to them eventually. Its better if they just vaporise themselves though, then we get the pleasure of shovelling their guts into a plastic bag and taking it home to their mummy's.

Nicely put Spud.!

Now to r1:

1 - Get off the bike. Give it to someone who appreciates bikes and life and community and isn't a f***in' dickhead

2 - In the interests of answering your question, I believe police policy is to stop a pursuit once the police get to 180Kmh... Spud?

3 - Please don't come on any rides with me. There's fun and stuff, but you and people like you are exactly why bikers have a bad reputation. I don't need it, bikers in general don't need it, and there are track days for doing what you do. Get out on a track, man

4 - You are probably a decent human being. Please - get out on a track before you kill yourself and someone else. Take it where it's safe.

[sedge]

Man... If you are doing something silly and and a cop sees you, be honest about it and pull over. If you didn't see the cop while you were doing the thing then you are a sad fecker, a dangerous one who hasn't got their eyes open and deserves to be pulled over.

I've done some stupid things, I'm sure most of us have, when you get pulled over just say that you were being a cock, cops are people too and have cocky moments themselves, they generally tell you to put your cock away and take it easy.

Ta, Sedge ( Not usually a sad fecker but often a cock )

[Ms Piggy]

Is that a gun pointing at your head in your avatar? Just pull the trigger, that will fix your problem.
:killingme

[MSTRS]

I've seen too many innocent people killed because of arseholes like you. The sad thing is, the ones who recklessly endanger other peoples lives usually come away relatively uninjured. I don't know how they can live with themselves afterwards. Do you know how soul destroying it is to look at the body of a baby that was killed in a car crash cos some fuckwit got a kick out of being a complete and utter tosser? Fucking grow up!
Quite right, anointed one. See thread re Capital punishment.Road murder is in the same vein as any other heinous crime. We all appreciate the suberb job you AO's do out there, as most of us wouldn't have a bar of it. But R1Aaron isn't the fuckwit he appears to be. I've already exposed his little game of wind-up by revealing he rides a NiftyFifty :love2:

[manuboy]

Seriously Aaron man. What would be the point? It isn't about whether you're fast. Anybody in Production Superbikes could kick your ass any time, any place.

But (and i might be wrong) i bet none of those boys have ever thought in the way you do, or really ever posed a serious threat to other road users.

So what's it about? Adrenaline? If that's it, then it comes down to the fact that you need to find a way to get your buzz without risking anybody else. Seriously. I know one of your mates got cleaned up by a vehicle recently. So why do you still seem so bulletproof? And how are you gonna feel if you take somebody out with you (assuming you don't end up meat)?

I enjoy the odd 9/10ths riding session. But as has been said here oft enough, it's time and place. And i'd pull the pin asap if i thought i was hanging out more than just my own life to dry...

[Bandito]

Do yourself and my family a favour and go racing on track

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Now im new to KB and dont know if this has come up b4 but....in the interest of public safty how fast do you have to go b4 the coppers call it off???
I see the fishing is good today. :msn-wink: Your trolling efforts have worked a treat. :devil2:

[Sensei]

" BUDDHA BLESS YOU " R1Aarron RIP
SENSEI :sly:

[WINJA]

[QUOTE=manuboy]Seriously Aaron man. What would be the point? It isn't about whether you're fast. Anybody in Production Superbikes could kick your ass any time, any place.

But (and i might be wrong) i bet none of those boys have ever thought in the way you do, or really ever posed a serious threat to other road users.

So what's it about? Adrenaline? If that's it, then it comes down to the fact that you need to find a way to get your buzz without risking anybody else. Seriously. I know one of your mates got cleaned up by a vehicle recently. So why do you still seem so bulletproof? And how are you gonna feel if you take somebody out with you (assuming you don't end up meat)?

I enjoy the odd 9/10ths riding session. But as has been said here oft enough, it's time and place. And i'd pull the pin asap if i thought i was hanging out more than just my own life to dry...[/QUO TE]
YES ANYONE IN PRODUCTION SUPER BIKE WOULD BEAT HIM , BUT I KNOW A FEW OF THESE TOP LEVEL GUYS AND SOME OF THEM RIDE ON THE ROAD FAST AND THEY DO RUNNERS.
AARON YOU SHOULD TRY TO FIND WHO ALL YOUR REAL FRIENDS ARE SO IF YOU NEED TO STOP AT THEIR PLACE TO HIDE YOUR BIKE AND YOUR SELF YOU CAN. I ALWAYS LET MY FRIENDS STOP AT MY PLACE IF THEY DO A RUNNER.I HAVE AN AUNTIE WHO WILL ALWAYS LET ME USE HER GARAGE IN A SITUATION WHICH IS HANDY AS SHE LIVES NEAR WHERE I RIDE.GOOD TO SEE YOU DO RUNNERS I DONT SEE THE POINT IN STOPPING ANYMORE THE PIGS SHOULD JUST STOP AT A CERTAIN POINT, LIKE THAT GUY ON THE TRIUMPH NORTH OF AUCK THE PIGS WERE TOLD TO STOP AND THEY DIDNT AND 2 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIFE AS A RESULT IF THE POLICE STOPPED THE GUY ON THE BIKE WOULD HAVE SLOWED DOWN HE WAS PUSHED INTO A CRASH BY THE PIGS THE PURSUING COP WAS DOING 200K WITH FADING BRAKES AND ONE HAND ON HIS RT THE COP SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN PRISON

[onearmedbandit]

Aaron, you do enjoy a good wind-up don't you?? BTW, I've got the barrel back for your nifty 50, this time please don't try to do a rebore with a drill and sanding disc.

[azaa]

come on dude I no im only new aswell, so hi evry1.
But cops are there for a reason if you pull ova and just take
the ticket or the night in the cell you get to walk away alive if you act
like a dick and run when the cops do catch up u'll b dead or som1 else will.
Open your damn eyes man its not cool and stop watchin boy racer movies it shows way to much!!!

[madboy]

Each to their own in my book. I'm still silly enough to do a runner when the need arises... and i do say need. Cos the sad fact is, many cops are human beings, but the chances of figuring out whether they're a human being or not BEFORE they get close enough to see your plate is pretty slim.

Do I stop, get a ticket and some demerit points (or instant loss of licence and associated legal costs) or do I wind it up to 9/10ths and more than likely get away without taking enough risks to kill me?? Hmm... it's not really a hard question most of the time.

Of course, even I think of road conditions and other factors first - and no way will i put myself or the bike at risk. But "risk" is completely subjective. What an anally retentive Highway Patrol officer may consider risk will probably differ from what a detective on his way to investigate a burg (if they still do that!) considers risky... and they probably differ from what I consider risky too.

Each to their own.

[**R1**]

[QUOTE=manuboy]Seriously Aaron man. What would be the point? It isn't about whether you're fast. Anybody in Production Superbikes could kick your ass any time, any place.

But (and i might be wrong) i bet none of those boys have ever thought in the way you do, or really ever posed a serious threat to other road users.

So what's it about? Adrenaline? If that's it, then it comes down to the fact that you need to find a way to get your buzz without risking anybody else. Seriously. I know one of your mates got cleaned up by a vehicle recently. So why do you still seem so bulletproof? And how are you gonna feel if you take somebody out with you (assuming you don't end up meat)?

I enjoy the odd 9/10ths riding session. But as has been said here oft enough, it's time and place. And i'd pull the pin asap if i thought i was hanging out more than just my own life to dry...[/QUO TE]
YES ANYONE IN PRODUCTION SUPER BIKE WOULD BEAT HIM , BUT I KNOW A FEW OF THESE TOP LEVEL GUYS AND SOME OF THEM RIDE ON THE ROAD FAST AND THEY DO RUNNERS.
AARON YOU SHOULD TRY TO FIND WHO ALL YOUR REAL FRIENDS ARE SO IF YOU NEED TO STOP AT THEIR PLACE TO HIDE YOUR BIKE AND YOUR SELF YOU CAN. I ALWAYS LET MY FRIENDS STOP AT MY PLACE IF THEY DO A RUNNER.I HAVE AN AUNTIE WHO WILL ALWAYS LET ME USE HER GARAGE IN A SITUATION WHICH IS HANDY AS SHE LIVES NEAR WHERE I RIDE.GOOD TO SEE YOU DO RUNNERS I DONT SEE THE POINT IN STOPPING ANYMORE THE PIGS SHOULD JUST STOP AT A CERTAIN POINT, LIKE THAT GUY ON THE TRIUMPH NORTH OF AUCK THE PIGS WERE TOLD TO STOP AND THEY DIDNT AND 2 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIFE AS A RESULT IF THE POLICE STOPPED THE GUY ON THE BIKE WOULD HAVE SLOWED DOWN HE WAS PUSHED INTO A CRASH BY THE PIGS THE PURSUING COP WAS DOING 200K WITH FADING BRAKES AND ONE HAND ON HIS RT THE COP SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN PRISON

Yeah that was the other question i had. If the copper who cant drive at that speed hits and kills someone whos fault is it, mine for failing to stop or his for failing to learn to drive. i think they are trained to push you more and more untill u crash. i had 1 a few months back that didnt have a shit show of catching me but still he endangered the public long after i thought he would have given up, i had no plate on at the time so i played a bit of slow down let him catch up the wheelie off and still he carried on so i nailed it b4 he got on the radio to have his buddies tbone me or sumething.

[madboy]

I was out for dinner with a friend the other day who happens to be a remarkably normal person for a copper, and obviously i was taking the opportunity to gain as much information on "procedure" as possible... know thy enemy!!

He reckoned that it was completely random whether you did or didn't get chased, and whether you did or didn't happen to get a cop who could drive. Most with a knowledge of bikes would take one look at the bike and decide what the odds where before they made a decision. Those who didn't have a clue, well they're the plonkers who try it on with you.

Unfortunately he pointed out to me that he knew where i lived, which invalidated the advantage my bike had on his company car... Plate or no plate - a very warm bike sitting in the garage might be a bit hard to explain!!

[onearmedbandit]

re arrons post;
[gets popcorn, drink, puts feet up and waits for flaming session]

Hell yeah, you're one of them people I read about or see on tv. Wooo Hooo!! Gotta love the fact theres still some rebels about. Each to their own. Mind you, done a couple (or more) runners myself so I aint exactly innocent. So to comment on the dangers/etc of commiting an act like this would be hypocritical.

[Yokai]

If the copper who cant drive at that speed hits and kills someone whos fault is it, mine for failing to stop or his for failing to learn to drive.

Yours. You cause the chase. You cause the accident. You can't have it both ways.


i think they are trained to push you more and more untill u crash. i had 1 a few months back that didnt have a shit show of catching me but still he endangered the public long after i thought he would have given up,

Did you endanger the public? Yup. You do realise that is an offence right?


i had no plate on at the time

That's one too.

I have a question - do you steal? Do you rape? Do you murder? - you have so little regard for the law, and yet you know you can do this on a track. I'm probably responding to a troll, but hey - I'm bored at work and it's lunchtime.

I'd be glad to see you lose your licence, but frankly I don't think that would stop you. Get out on a track.
:thud:

[onearmedbandit]

The problem is, we can't get out to the track often enough.

[dangerous]

LIKE THAT GUY ON THE TRIUMPH NORTH OF AUCK THE Police WERE TOLD TO STOP AND THEY DIDNT AND 2 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIFE AS A RESULT IF THE Police STOPPED THE GUY ON THE BIKE WOULD HAVE SLOWED DOWN HE WAS PUSHED INTO A CRASH BY THE Police THE PURSUING COP WAS DOING 200K WITH FADING BRAKES AND ONE HAND ON HIS RT THE COP SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN PRISON
Oh fuk off would ya........ If that jackass had stayed off the bike in the 1st place nobody would have died right, so puting the blame on the police is just a big wank. Whos to say that had the police not chased, that jackass couldive taken a left instead of a right and driven into your car with your family and killed the fuking lot of ya...... well hopfully you remaind alive but a vegtable for the rest of your life......................... be thinking diferently then aye, I bet you would of been glad that the police took chase.

ps: getting a little sick of these pointless threads :spudwhat:

[dangerous]

The problem is, we can't get out to the track often enough.
yeah ya can..... you can get the keys for Runapuna any old time, several guys I know do it all the time when trying to tune up race bikes, the problem is guys like Aaron dont get the 'high' the thrive for its just not the same is it? less danger, no law inforcer chasing, no oncomming suprises and the same boreing bit of tarseal every 2min's

[Yokai]

Well take it from me who is going to court on jan14 for "allegedly" doing 240kmh---- these guys did not give up at 180 ks.. but there radio sure did work a treat. No one needs tell me off unless they know me, my bike and the circumstances thanks.

Hey what were the circumstances? Were you on call? Cos I've met you, and you don't seem the sort that would go around bragging about this sort of stuff... I'm sure there's a good explanation... (Did I miss it?)



Oh - in response to your sig:

"let he who is without sin cast the first stone...PUT THAT DOWN MOTHER!" (Christ allegedly said it)

[Mongoose]

Well take it from me who is going to court on jan14 for "allegedly" doing 240kmh---- these guys did not give up at 180 ks.. but there radio sure did work a treat. No one needs tell me off unless they know me, my bike and the circumstances thanks.


Other than to say, Your Job? :kick:

[onearmedbandit]

yeah ya can..... you can get the keys for Runapuna any old time, several guys I know do it all the time when trying to tune up race bikes, the problem is guys like Aaron dont get the 'high' the thrive for its just not the same is it? less danger, no law inforcer chasing, no oncomming suprises and the same boreing bit of tarseal every 2min's

Well I'd be keen as for that kind of access, so would a few others I know, including aaron. Who do I need to talk to, Canterbury M/C?

[madboy]

dude - the whole fantasy that the police give up when the speeds become "dangerous" is the prime factor why i'm giving serious consideration to trading the 400 on an R1. Not cos I will be spending much time sitting at top speed, but just nice to know it doesn't have a governor at 190!!!

[WINJA]

Oh fuk off would ya........ If that jackass had stayed off the bike in the 1st place nobody would have died right, so puting the blame on the police is just a big wank. Whos to say that had the police not chased, that jackass couldive taken a left instead of a right and driven into your car with your family and killed the fuking lot of ya...... well hopfully you remaind alive but a vegtable for the rest of your life......................... be thinking diferently then aye, I bet you would of been glad that the police took chase.

ps: getting a little sick of these pointless threads :spudwhat:
BULLSHIT THE COPS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD TO STOP THE PURSUIT AND HE DIDNT, HE HAD NO BRAKES LEFT THATS WHY HE DROVE THRU THE CRASH SCENE. THE GUY ON THE BIKE HE IS A CRIMINAL WE KNOW THAT , AS SOON AS A COP DOES WHAT HE DID HES A CRIMINAL TOO

[Yokai]

The one car I passed was mufti HWP, who gave chase.. i didnt know and would have stopped had i knowen.(no blue and reds so i didnt do a runner he says).
<SNIP>
Charged with dangerous speed.. not for failing to stop cause the blue and reds not on.

Nice explanation - glad to see my people skills are still intact - Didn't have you down as a runner...
:Punk:

[dangerous]

BULLSHIT THE COPS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD TO STOP THE PURSUIT AND HE DIDNT, HE HAD NO BRAKES LEFT THATS WHY HE DROVE THRU THE CRASH SCENE. THE GUY ON THE BIKE HE IS A CRIMINAL WE KNOW THAT , AS SOON AS A COP DOES WHAT HE DID HES A CRIMINAL TOO
Yes the copper involved should have stoped when ordered, so I hope that his arse was haluled over the coals as mine or yours would have been...... but whos to say the dumbass that was riding the bike wouldent of killed anyway.

[**R1**]

Just to clear up a few details.

1, I dont go out looking for the cops.

2, Im not a complete wanker in town and around public areas (all the time) but sure i have done the odd boyracer drag and a few wheelies for fun and to show off. but normaly i stay somewhare close to the legal limit

3, I go out to the track every chance i get. if i could ride there everyday i would, but as someone said its not the most thrilling thing to do all the time but i did do a 1min 47sec around ruapuna the last have a go day, but if all i did was try to beat that it would no doubt all end in teers.

i think it all boils down to the amount of tickets ive had and the amount of times i have lost my licence, i have fully had enough of the coppers. sure they have a job to do, but i can honestly say in the 15 or so years i have been riding i have never caused a crash, nor have i ever hurt anyone on the road(perhads the odd whack that someone deserved for cutting me off etc)
what also makes matters worse is im on 95 demerit points so even a ticket for 61k's in a 50 then im riding with no licence (all bad) so i guess to me doing the bolt beats no licence.

[Jackrat]

I have no idea what speed the cops will call off a chase but I do know that if you think there's no cop cars that will catch a bike in the twistys then your sadly mistaken.A car has more than twice the tyre contact area of any bike and as good if not better braking potential.A good driver will catch you no worrys and from what I understand there are certain cops that do have the skill and the machines to do the job.Those guys will chase you until "THEY" think it's unsafe.If there are cars out there today that are as good as the Granada Capri's were in their day then your going to be in the shit sooner or later.I had the pleasure of driving a Granada for a while in the seventys,none and I mean NONE of the bikes I had a go with had a chance,even less so in the twistys.The guys I tryed out were all mates of mine on Z1000,GT750,GS750/1000,Ducati SS/SD/MHR ect ect.All of them had the goods on the Granada until we hit the twistys then it just ran them down.You can take most people that own SS dunny doors and XR8 Frauds but most of those people can't drive anyway so it's no real contest.
A copper than can drive is going to be another critter all-togeather.
All that being said,Ive heard so much Bullshit from guys like you since I've been a member of this site that I don't really care what you do unless it involves somebody else that didn't need a cunt like you in their day/life.
Give it your best shot.I hope you die slow.

[WINJA]

I have no idea what speed the cops will call off a chase but I do know that if you think there's no cop cars that will catch a bike in the twistys then your sadly mistaken.A car has more than twice the tyre contact area of any bike and as good if not better braking potential.A good driver will catch you no worrys and from what I understand there are certain cops that do have the skill and the machines to do the job.Those guys will chase you until "THEY" think it's unsafe.If there are cars out there today that are as good as the Granada Capri's were in their day then your going to be in the shit sooner or later.I had the pleasure of driving a Granada for a while in the seventys,none and I mean NONE of the bikes I had a go with had a chance,even less so in the twistys.The guys I tryed out were all mates of mine on Z1000,GT750,GS750/1000,Ducati SS/SD/MHR ect ect.All of them had the goods on the Granada until we hit the twistys then it just ran them down.You can take most people that own SS dunny doors and XR8 Frauds but most of those people can't drive anyway so it's no real contest.
A copper than can drive is going to be another critter all-togeather.
All that being said,Ive heard so much Bullshit from guys like you since I've been a member of this site that I don't really care what you do unless it involves somebody else that didn't need a cunt like you in their day/life.
Give it your best shot.I hope you die slow.
WELL OF COURSE THEIR GOING TO CATCH A SHIT RIDER ON A SHIT BIKE, IF YOUVE EVER BEEN TO A BIKE CAR DAY AT A TRACK YOULL SEE THE BIKES ARE FASTER IN EVERY ASPECT. EVEN IN THE PB WRITE UP HONDA NSX VERSUS BLADE THE CAR HAD A RACING DRIVER THE BIKE HAD A JOURNO THEY PUT EM ON THE TRACK AT THE SAME TIME THE CAR HAD NO CHANCE NOT EVEN CLOSE THEY WERE BOTH STOCK VEHICLES

[Blakamin]

WELL OF COURSE THEIR GOING TO CATCH A SHIT RIDER ON A SHIT BIKE, IF YOUVE EVER BEEN TO A BIKE CAR DAY AT A TRACK YOULL SEE THE BIKES ARE FASTER IN EVERY ASPECT. EVEN IN THE PB WRITE UP HONDA NSX VERSUS BLADE THE CAR HAD A RACING DRIVER THE BIKE HAD A JOURNO THEY PUT EM ON THE TRACK AT THE SAME TIME THE CAR HAD NO CHANCE NOT EVEN CLOSE THEY WERE BOTH STOCK VEHICLES
That could be the case on a track, but it sure as shit aint on the road....
I'd put a mate in his evo over you on your bike over Pi-Cock hill anyday...
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[sedge]

Um... you'll probably find that the farmer in his shitty old Hilux who lives up the top of Paekak hill would kick all our arses up it... sure you'd be quicker on the straights... but he's mean and weaves a bit on them... he knows the road and his truck has lots of dents and bloodstains on it, that's what really counts.

Sedge.

[onearmedbandit]

Nice attitude Jackrat. Can't ever imagine wishing a fellow biker has 'a slow death'. Whats up with that shit?

[MSTRS]

Um... you'll probably find that the farmer in his shitty old Hilux who lives up the top of Paekak hill would kick all our arses up it... sure you'd be quicker on the straights... but he's mean and weaves a bit on them... he knows the road and his truck has lots of dents and bloodstains on it, that's what really counts.

Sedge.
I know that man - spoilsport :killingme

[MSTRS]

spose it weeds the chaff from the hay but

[WINJA]

That could be the case on a track, but it sure as shit aint on the road....
I'd put a mate in his evo over you on your bike over Pi-Cock hill anyday...
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FUCK OFF JUST CAUSE YOU CANT RIDE DOESNT MEAN I CANT, IVE BEATEN EVERY HI PO CAR ON THE ROAD . NOT JUST BEATEN BUT REALLY BEATEN. UNLESS ITS ON GRAVEL BUT THATS A DIFFERENT STORY

[2_SL0]

Yes bikes are fast, but I agree with Jackrat a good driver in a good car, WILL CAtCH YOU, and if not the radio is a very handy item. I dont know what your knowledge of late model cars is, but the performance and handling of a modern police car or sportcar is not a laughing matter. YES the bike is faster but on the open road where many different conditions occur that the car is ALOT more forgiving towards than a bike I certainly wouldnt want to try to out run a late model police car with a good driver. You will end up in the ditch or the back of the police car, IT will happin sooner or later.

[dangerous]

That could be the case on a track, but it sure as shit aint on the road....
I'd put a mate in his evo over you on your bike over Pi-Cock hill anyday...
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I'd have to agree with that...... I've spent a bit of time lately in a 2000 911 2wd and I can push that thing faster around the hills than a bike I'd love to see how a 4wd goes, now I relise that a cop car isent a Porsche thats not my point but maybe the Germans have something cos its what they use.

[dangerous]

FUCK OFF JUST CAUSE YOU CANT RIDE DOESNT MEAN I CANT, IVE BEATEN EVERY HI PO CAR ON THE ROAD . NOT JUST BEATEN BUT REALLY BEATEN. UNLESS ITS ON GRAVEL BUT THATS A DIFFERENT STORY
And just what is it that you ride Winja? and dont wast my time by saying Suzuki :rolleyes:

[dangerous]

Nice attitude Jackrat. Can't ever imagine wishing a fellow biker has 'a slow death'. Whats up with that shit?
well thats JR for ya :wacko:

[toads]

Nice attitude Jackrat. Can't ever imagine wishing a fellow biker has 'a slow death'. Whats up with that shit?

I don't think JR meant that literally, just garnishing his post with a little spice I guess, all of us dread hearing of a fellow biker dying at all, but we all get angry when some dickhead whether in a car or on a bike, uses their vehicle as a weapon, cos they think they can get away with it.

[dangerous]

I don't think JR meant that literally, just garnishing his post with a little spice I guess, all of us dread hearing of a fellow biker dying at all, but we all get angry when some dickhead whether in a car or on a bike, uses their vehicle as a weapon, cos they think they can get away with it.
hey............. this is a testostrone charged thread, who let the shella in :msn-wink: cant have common sence here thank you :)

[WINJA]

And just what is it that you ride Winja? and dont wast my time by saying Suzuki :rolleyes:
WHAT I RIDE IS NOT RELEVANT, ITS HOW I USE IT, IVE OWNED A LOT OF SHITTERS AND STILL MADE THEM GO FAST.

[dangerous]

WHAT I RIDE IS NOT RELEVANT, ITS HOW I USE IT, IVE OWNED A LOT OF SHITTERS AND STILL MADE THEM GO FAST.
are yes........... I know what ya mean could tell a few stories there, but whats the deal with the bike you have at the moment? why the secret?
I'm buggered if I can work out the bike in ya profile too

[WINJA]

are yes........... I know what ya mean could tell a few stories there, but whats the deal with the bike you have at the moment? why the secret?
I'm buggered if I can work out the bike in ya profile too
NO SECRETS I HAVE 2 BIKES BOTH ARE SUZUKI SO I PUT SUZUKI IN THE PROFILE. TR50 GSXR1000K3. BUT IM ACTUALLY A KAWASAKI FAN. I ALSO HAD A AX9 IT LOOKED LIKE A REAL HUNK O SHIT DUCT TAPE FAIRINGS ETC. I TRIED TO GO FOR A RIDE WITH SOME TOSSERS ON GSXR1000'S ONE OF THEM LAUGHED AT ME AND SAID THEY GO FAST AND THEY WONT WAIT FOR ME I SAID OK ILL TAG ALONG AND SEE HOW I GO, FUCK DID THEY GET A SHOCK I GAVE THEM THE BIGGET KICKING EVER. ONE GUY SAID IT WAS OBVIOUS MY BIKE WAS A REAL WEAPON AND ASKED TO HAVE A RIDE , I LET HIM, WHEN WE STOPPED HE SHOOK MY HAND AND SAID FUCK THAT IS THE WORST BIKE EVER, I MISS THE OLD 9 ITS GOOD FOR GIVING OUT RIDING LESSONS

[jrandom]

are yes........... I know what ya mean could tell a few stories there, but whats the deal with the bike you have at the moment? why the secret?
I'm buggered if I can work out the bike in ya profile too

I believe Mr WINJA has previously mentioned a GSXR1000.

[**R1**]

I have no idea what speed the cops will call off a chase but I do know that if you think there's no cop cars that will catch a bike in the twistys then your sadly mistaken.A car has more than twice the tyre contact area of any bike and as good if not better braking potential.A good driver will catch you no worrys and from what I understand there are certain cops that do have the skill and the machines to do the job.Those guys will chase you until "THEY" think it's unsafe.If there are cars out there today that are as good as the Granada Capri's were in their day then your going to be in the shit sooner or later.I had the pleasure of driving a Granada for a while in the seventys,none and I mean NONE of the bikes I had a go with had a chance,even less so in the twistys.The guys I tryed out were all mates of mine on Z1000,GT750,GS750/1000,Ducati SS/SD/MHR ect ect.All of them had the goods on the Granada until we hit the twistys then it just ran them down.You can take most people that own SS dunny doors and XR8 Frauds but most of those people can't drive anyway so it's no real contest.
A copper than can drive is going to be another critter all-togeather.
All that being said,Ive heard so much Bullshit from guys like you since I've been a member of this site that I don't really care what you do unless it involves somebody else that didn't need a cunt like you in their day/life.
Give it your best shot.I hope you die slow.

I recon you have never riden anything like an R1 or a thou from the load of bullshit you just puked out, as someone has said a 911 is pretty dam fast but lets face facts has any1 tried the bolt on a late model 1000 and been cought???? i have done a few runners over the years and even more since i have had the R1 and a cop with any car hasnt even got close,

well thats my experiance anyway.

as for wishing me dead... y dont you stop all the big talk BITCH and come do the job yourself. some people talk so big when they hide behind their PC screen.

as for all that crap about ganada and gt750's. 1, i dont know what the fuk a granada is and 2, a gt750 was a hunk of shit that stoned pot smokn hippies used like a decade ago, come on man its the new millinium. i dont mind the updated Z1000 tho does mean wheelies

[**R1**]

NO SECRETS I HAVE 2 BIKES BOTH ARE SUZUKI SO I PUT SUZUKI IN THE PROFILE. TR50 GSXR1000K3. BUT IM ACTUALLY A KAWASAKI FAN. I ALSO HAD A AX9 IT LOOKED LIKE A REAL HUNK O SHIT DUCT TAPE FAIRINGS ETC. I TRIED TO GO FOR A RIDE WITH SOME TOSSERS ON GSXR1000'S ONE OF THEM LAUGHED AT ME AND SAID THEY GO FAST AND THEY WONT WAIT FOR ME I SAID OK ILL TAG ALONG AND SEE HOW I GO, FUCK DID THEY GET A SHOCK I GAVE THEM THE BIGGET KICKING EVER. ONE GUY SAID IT WAS OBVIOUS MY BIKE WAS A REAL WEAPON AND ASKED TO HAVE A RIDE , I LET HIM, WHEN WE STOPPED HE SHOOK MY HAND AND SAID FUCK THAT IS THE WORST BIKE EVER, I MISS THE OLD 9 ITS GOOD FOR GIVING OUT RIDING LESSONS
HAHAHAHA i used to get the same thing on my old zxr750 was good fun but used to stretch the fuk outa the throttle cable

[Mongoose]

... and come do the job yourself. some people talk so big when they hide behind their PC screen.


About the most true words you have typed on here yet!! :calm:

[**R1**]

Yes bikes are fast, but I agree with Jackrat a good driver in a good car, WILL CAtCH YOU, and if not the radio is a very handy item. I dont know what your knowledge of late model cars is, but the performance and handling of a modern police car or sportcar is not a laughing matter. YES the bike is faster but on the open road where many different conditions occur that the car is ALOT more forgiving towards than a bike I certainly wouldnt want to try to out run a late model police car with a good driver. You will end up in the ditch or the back of the police car, IT will happin sooner or later.
Dude have you riden an R1? as for cars being more forgiving hhhmmmm i dont think so you only have to go over the white line and bang ya dead. with a bike u just tip her in a bit more and ya sweet. i have also run at the drags a few times and the only street cars faster than my bike down the 1/4 dont go around corners, but then thats only the ones i have seen.

what duz a copper wagon do down the 1/4????
that would be a laugh :killingme

[Mongoose]

what duz a copper wagon do down the 1/4????
that would be a laugh :killingme
How fast does a radio wave get down the 1/4mile? now that will be a laugh when you find out :yeah:

[**R1**]

I have no idea what speed the cops will call off a chase but I do know that if you think there's no cop cars that will catch a bike in the twistys then your sadly mistaken.A car has more than twice the tyre contact area of any bike and as good if not better braking potential.A good driver will catch you no worrys and from what I understand there are certain cops that do have the skill and the machines to do the job.Those guys will chase you until "THEY" think it's unsafe.If there are cars out there today that are as good as the Granada Capri's were in their day then your going to be in the shit sooner or later.I had the pleasure of driving a Granada for a while in the seventys,none and I mean NONE of the bikes I had a go with had a chance,even less so in the twistys.The guys I tryed out were all mates of mine on Z1000,GT750,GS750/1000,Ducati SS/SD/MHR ect ect.All of them had the goods on the Granada until we hit the twistys then it just ran them down.You can take most people that own SS dunny doors and XR8 Frauds but most of those people can't drive anyway so it's no real contest.
A copper than can drive is going to be another critter all-togeather.
All that being said,Ive heard so much Bullshit from guys like you since I've been a member of this site that I don't really care what you do unless it involves somebody else that didn't need a cunt like you in their day/life.
Give it your best shot.I hope you die slow.

MAN your full of shit i was just checn out your old threads
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=1483
you have dun it yourself ya Big DICKHEAD, i think this giant brain has a small memory problem or he talks shit and rides a uni cycle :lol: ya winner

[**R1**]

How fast does a radio wave get down the 1/4mile? now that will be a laugh when you find out :yeah:
M8 i would be finishd b4 any1 had a chance to answer the radio :buggerd: :killingme

[Mongoose]

M8 i would be finishd b4 any1 had a chance to answer the radio :buggerd: :killingme


So your riding skills are that poor that you would crash so soon?? :disapint:

By the way, just read the link you put up, re-read it yourself and ask yourself "Are the circumstances the same?"
Maybe you are way to young to remember, or know some one who does, what the roads were like back then, the cars/bikes the cops had back then, how much other traffic was on the roads back then. If you knew the answers to those, you would appreciate there is no comparison to then and now.

[Kickaha]

Well I'd be keen as for that kind of access, so would a few others I know, including aaron. Who do I need to talk to, Canterbury M/C?


Every Tuesday and Friday is multi hire day you just turn up at the track pay your money and away you go

if there are a few people out there it is split into 20min sessions cars,single/ seaters/bikes,you also need a spotter with you in case they have to come pick you up




I go out to the track every chance i get. if i could ride there everyday i would, but as someone said its not the most thrilling thing to do all the time but i did do a 1min 47sec around ruapuna the last have a go day, but if all i did was try to beat that it would no doubt all end in teers.


That'd be just about fast enough to beat the slow F3 guys,I might have a chance against you on my bucket after all :rolleyes:

[onearmedbandit]

Kickaha - Is that all? No membership or anything, just turn up and pay? If that is the case, I'm changing my day off to Tuesday and setting up camp at the track. Farkin brilliant!!

[Jackrat]

Nice attitude Jackrat. Can't ever imagine wishing a fellow biker has 'a slow death'. Whats up with that shit?

Yeah Good point,stupid thing to say. :o
When I hear somebody say they just don't care about others I get pissed an respond in kind.
Makes it worse since I've spent a fair bit of time counting the spots on the ceiling at middlemore because of a similar attitude.
Have slapped meself about the ears an won't do it again,,,,,,,,
til I forget :shutup:

[**R1**]

man 60+ replys but no answers to my Q's and i just reread my first post hhhmmmm sily thing to say "dont care about public safty" coz i do. but at the time when ya see the blue and reds ya only have micro seconds to think, 9 time out of 10 im prety sure i hit the gas b4 i even think about it. and i get the funny feeling some of you dont like what i have to say...... bugger for you :banana:

[dangerous]

Kickaha - Is that all? No membership or anything, just turn up and pay? If that is the case, I'm changing my day off to Tuesday and setting up camp at the track. Farkin brilliant!!
And about $50 for the arvo................ man it wasent that long ago when we used to just drive through the gates and onto the track, no one gave a shit............. hell maybe it was a while ago :doobey:

[Kickaha]

Kickaha - Is that all? No membership or anything, just turn up and pay? If that is the case, I'm changing my day off to Tuesday and setting up camp at the track. Farkin brilliant!!


No membership,although Cant car club members(I think) get a better rate so if you're planning on doing a few it may be worth while looking at joining

if you get lucky there wont be any cars out there and you'll get heaps of track time,it's worth ringing the track to check as sometimes the track is hired out to different organisations for driver training etc or when big race meets are coming up

Tuesdays are the best as you dont get as many of the guys practising for their weekends racing

[onearmedbandit]

Well thats that then isn't it? I'll be informing my boss that I'll be needing tuesdays off from now on, getting me a spotter and heading to Ruapuna just as soon as I can. Should have really got off my lazy ass and done some digging myself on this issue, big thanks to those whop have enlightened me. And Manuboys hooking me up with a track day next year.

BTW, yes I am a track virgin. Driven a formula ford around 'puna though a few years back, but only about 10 laps. I've been riding for about 15yrs now, and haven't got out to the track. Shameful...

[Jackrat]

MAN your full of shit i was just checn out your old threads
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=1483
you have dun it yourself ya Big DICKHEAD, i think this giant brain has a small memory problem or he talks shit and rides a uni cycle :lol: ya winner

Read it closer .
Both those situations were around thirty years ago and happened on the spur of the moment,I wasn't planning on fucking with the cops at the exspence of others like you.Unlike you I do care about other peoples safty.
When I wrote about those two incidents it was as an example of something stupid I'd done in the past and I as much as said so,or did you miss that.
BTW you don't have to go seaching my old threads for ammo' I've made a lot of fuck ups and payed the price in a number of ways.
A permanant disabilty,Five years in prison,untold money down the drain,the death of one of my brothers,the deaths of several of my friends.
You can have a dig if you like,you'll find mention of all of it on this site in one form or another.I have a bloody good memory,I can remember the faces of all of them.I also have a very keen appreciation of just how lucky I was.A great deal of that appreciation goes to the cops that you seem to like bagging out so much.Yeah, just like I did,happy now.

[2_SL0]

Dude have you riden an R1? as for cars being more forgiving hhhmmmm i dont think so you only have to go over the white line and bang ya dead. with a bike u just tip her in a bit more and ya sweet. i have also run at the drags a few times and the only street cars faster than my bike down the 1/4 dont go around corners, but then thats only the ones i have seen.

what duz a copper wagon do down the 1/4????
that would be a laugh :killingme
I would rather be in my car than on a bike if I hit a patch of oil, or put a wheel on the whitelline in the wet. I compleltly agree bikes are faster, but that doesnt make it acceptable to do a runner.

[gav]

That'd be just about fast enough to beat the slow F3 guys,I might have a chance against you on my bucket after all :rolleyes:
Yip, think F3 lap record is 1.38 set by Andy Bolwell on a ZXR400, think the 125 record is 1.38.8 or something like that.
Think I use to do 1.50's on my ZXR400 :disapint:

[inlinefour]

Well having caught a guy on a VTR doing over 200km/hr in a commodore hp car go for it, I just hope you kill yourself alone and not someone in my family dickhead:finger:

Apparently there are several people here on KB that should not be allowed to ride on public roads...

[inlinefour]

I second that motion. :bash:

I add to that vote... :finger:

[jimbo600]

Um... you'll probably find that the farmer in his shitty old Hilux who lives up the top of Paekak hill would kick all our arses up it... sure you'd be quicker on the straights... but he's mean and weaves a bit on them... he knows the road and his truck has lots of dents and bloodstains on it, that's what really counts.

Sedge.

Most of the residents on that rd are knob jockeys. They believe that the rd is an extension of their personal driveway and putter along at a heady 40kmh holding up the show. Except for one dude who drives a XR6 turbo, when he sees a bike behind him he feeds it the jandal, and I tell you what he knows what he's doing, good on him.

[ajturbo]

BTW, I've got the barrel back for your nifty 50, this time please don't try to do a rebore with a drill and sanding disc.


ahhh shit ...i was just thinking to do that to my scooter so that luke can go faster on it!.....so will it work? :lol:

[Posh Tourer :P]

man 60+ replys but no answers to my Q's and i just reread my first post hhhmmmm sily thing to say "dont care about public safty" coz i do. but at the time when ya see the blue and reds ya only have micro seconds to think, 9 time out of 10 im prety sure i hit the gas b4 i even think about it. and i get the funny feeling some of you dont like what i have to say...... bugger for you :banana:

Wow really?? I would never have guessed.....

Oh and if you read properly, there are answers to your question, just maybe not the ones you wnated to hear, cos its a little bit complicated not a simple cut at a certain speed.

[Posh Tourer :P]

as for all that crap about ganada and gt750's. 1, i dont know what the fuk a granada is and 2, a gt750 was a hunk of shit that stoned pot smokn hippies used like a decade ago, come on man its the new millinium. i dont mind the updated Z1000 tho does mean wheelies

Errr if you read properly, he was saying that about a decade ago (1994, the height of pot-smoking hippie-ness) the cop cars could beat the bikes.

Now what do you think has happened in the past few years that has suddenly made bikes so much faster than the cars? I suppose the car makers have just been sitting around not bothering with improvements in speed and handling

[Posh Tourer :P]

as for cars being more forgiving hhhmmmm i dont think so you only have to go over the white line and bang ya dead. with a bike u just tip her in a bit more and ya sweet.

Err and when you get a slide when you are cranked over, what happens? When you lose control for a moment while thrashing it, what happens?
At least with cars you get another chance sometimes if you fuck up. Thats what I would call forgiving

[Mongoose]

Errr if you read properly, he was saying that about a decade ago (1994, the height of pot-smoking hippie-ness) the cop cars could beat the bikes.

Now what do you think has happened in the past few years that has suddenly made bikes so much faster than the cars? I suppose the car makers have just been sitting around not bothering with improvements in speed and handling


In fear of sounding "Old", 1994 the height of pot-smoking hippie-ness?
hell, there i was under the impression that that was more '64/'74. :gob:
Piece brothers

[avgas]

yeh cars can be fast - but u have to be a real wanker to drive fast in them. Or did you not pass 5th form physics.
Evos are turboed bricks, you hit anything (or anyone) at 200k - they are dead. If anyone here thinks there car is sweet at that speed round corners they can suck my shit - its attidues like that, that kill other inocent people.
I ride a bike cos i know that if i fuck up at some rediculous speed im only gonna kill myself.
As for out running the cops - i know of a guy that used to live down paraparam, and he out ran the cops on a mountain bike down on the beach. So its not what you have got - its if you are dumb enough to try it.
ps : old is just as good as the new, you have to respect all bikes, otherwise you end up being a bike ricer

[Jackrat]

yeh cars can be fast - but u have to be a real wanker to drive fast in them. Or did you not pass 5th form physics.
Evos are turboed bricks, you hit anything (or anyone) at 200k - they are dead. If anyone here thinks there car is sweet at that speed round corners they can suck my shit - its attidues like that, that kill other inocent people.
I ride a bike cos i know that if i fuck up at some rediculous speed im only gonna kill myself.
As for out running the cops - i know of a guy that used to live down paraparam, and he out ran the cops on a mountain bike down on the beach. So its not what you have got - its if you are dumb enough to try it.
ps : old is just as good as the new, you have to respect all bikes, otherwise you end up being a bike ricer

Maybe you could ring the parents of the girl killed up by Whangarei an tell them that.I'm sure they'd be most impressed.
Nobody KNOWS what will happen if they mess up in/on any vehicule. :rolleyes:

[onearmedbandit]

Yup, 180+kgs (what late model sportsbikes weigh when wet) at 200km/h is still gonna hurt, and make a decent size hole/impact in a car.

[2_SL0]

yeh cars can be fast - but u have to be a real wanker to drive fast in them. Or did you not pass 5th form physics.
Evos are turboed bricks, you hit anything (or anyone) at 200k - they are dead. If anyone here thinks there car is sweet at that speed round corners they can suck my shit - its attidues like that, that kill other inocent people.
I ride a bike cos i know that if i fuck up at some rediculous speed im only gonna kill myself.
As for out running the cops - i know of a guy that used to live down paraparam, and he out ran the cops on a mountain bike down on the beach. So its not what you have got - its if you are dumb enough to try it.
ps : old is just as good as the new, you have to respect all bikes, otherwise you end up being a bike ricer


OMG, as people already said, a 180 kg sportbike @ 200kmh, or even 100Kmh will seriously damage a car and its occupants. Its not even worth talking to people like yourself, your attitudes are so strangely backward.

[MSTRS]

I ride a bike cos i know that if i fuck up at some rediculous speed im only gonna kill myself.

You are so full of bullshit, it's a wonder you can fit on a bike :(

[Bonez]

Go as fast as you can as early as possible - and if there's heaps of traffic, then thats to your advantage as well.. I've only run once or twice - if I hadn't it woulda been jail :pinch:Seems we have another seasoned rider amongst us.

[inlinefour]

Seems we have another seasoned rider amongst us.

What is he seasoned with? Whatever it is it smells like what the cats/dog roll around in when there is a female on heat :bleh: :lol:

[loosebruce]

Shit i'm no angel, i have run from the cops before, even got caught runnning from the cops before, i must say i learnt my lesson there and then, i have done it since then, but i'm talking 3am deserted motorway kinda shit not 4pm in the arvo with school kids running around the show and traffic everywhere etc. There is no excuse for running and if i get caught i deserve everything coming to me and then some, judge me as you will, besides half the time when you pull over and stop for them you get off a shitload lighter, not always!

One thing i always keep in mind before people go slagging off how cops can't drive and shit like that, the HP boys oh n gals go through pretty extensive driver training and spend a fair bit of time at the track practicing driving skills and techniques, you'd have to be pretty daft to say a HP officer couldn't drive for shit, coz they sure can, i heard someone mention how safe is a car at 200km earlier, well how safe is a bike? HP cars aren't run of the mill standard commies with pretty blue n red lights and bright stickers slapped on them, last i heard they had an engine managment, suspension, exhaust and slightly tweaked brakes. They aren't all that slow and it's mostly the HP that i come into contact with :innocent: and commom knowledge being a raido travels faster than what i ever will. They will eventully get ya one or another.

A bike is faster than a car in twistys?? There are more than a few cars out there more than capable of giving the learn to pretty much anyone on this site in the twistys, they will brake later and harder than a bike and will carry a lot more corner speed than a bike ever will, the only advantage a bike has is straightline speed, not always enough. Sure most cars dont have a shit show, but you'd have to be pretty on it to give it to a good driver behind a evo or wrx, they're freakin weapons on the road. And both a bike and car are just as dangerous in a corner, but if i could have the grip a car offered on a bike i wouldn't say no.

[Slipstream]

WHAT I RIDE IS NOT RELEVANT, ITS HOW I USE IT, IVE OWNED A LOT OF SHITTERS AND STILL MADE THEM GO FAST.

I found one of your old 'shitters' dude ....
http://www.primetimeinteractive.com/IMAGES/thumbnails/toilet_thumb.jpg


....how fast did it go again?:ride:

[NC]

A toilet so clean, even children now can safely play "barbies jacuzzi".

https://sslserver.com/inventiveparent.com/pottypalseat_small.jpg

[WINJA]

I found one of your old 'shitters' dude ....
http://www.primetimeinteractive.com/IMAGES/thumbnails/toilet_thumb.jpg


....how fast did it go again?:ride:
WOW THATS THE NEW HONDA FIREBLADE, LOOKS GOOD IN PEARL WHITE AND WOOD GRAIN FINISH

[SuperDave]

Just to clear up a few details.
been riding i have never caused a crash, nor have i ever hurt anyone on the road(perhads the odd whack that someone deserved for cutting me off etc)
what also makes matters worse is im on 95 demerit points so even a ticket for 61k's in a 50 then im riding with no licence (all bad) so i guess to me doing the bolt beats no licence.

How about just riding at the speed limit? Idiot.

[NC]

How about just riding at the speed limit? Idiot.
:cat hissing emoticon:

[Coyote]

I found one of your old 'shitters' dude ....
http://www.primetimeinteractive.com/IMAGES/thumbnails/toilet_thumb.jpg


....how fast did it go again?:ride:
Damn, I've always wanted one of them. Isn't there a pub in Carterton that races them?

[mini_hooks_]

I found one of your old 'shitters' dude ....
http://www.primetimeinteractive.com/IMAGES/thumbnails/toilet_thumb.jpg


....how fast did it go again?:ride:

bloody awsome...i like that :moon:

[mini_hooks_]

How about just riding at the speed limit? Idiot.

yea...i can only drive...i cant ride a bike over a 250 but atleast i can keep to the speed limit..i mean come on mate uyougotta grow up sooner or later!!!

[mini_hooks_]

:cat hissing emoticon:

:Offtopic: lol

[marty]

Damn, I've always wanted one of them. Isn't there a pub in Carterton that races them?
i think that IS the pub in carterton...

[Zapf]

Shit i'm no angel, i have run from the cops before, even got caught runnning from the cops before, i must say i learnt my lesson there and then, i have done it since then, but i'm talking 3am deserted motorway kinda shit not 4pm in the arvo with school kids running around the show and traffic everywhere etc. There is no excuse for running and if i get caught i deserve everything coming to me and then some, judge me as you will, besides half the time when you pull over and stop for them you get off a shitload lighter, not always!

One thing i always keep in mind before people go slagging off how cops can't drive and shit like that, the HP boys oh n gals go through pretty extensive driver training and spend a fair bit of time at the track practicing driving skills and techniques, you'd have to be pretty daft to say a HP officer couldn't drive for shit, coz they sure can, i heard someone mention how safe is a car at 200km earlier, well how safe is a bike? HP cars aren't run of the mill standard commies with pretty blue n red lights and bright stickers slapped on them, last i heard they had an engine managment, suspension, exhaust and slightly tweaked brakes. They aren't all that slow and it's mostly the HP that i come into contact with :innocent: and commom knowledge being a raido travels faster than what i ever will. They will eventully get ya one or another.

A bike is faster than a car in twistys?? There are more than a few cars out there more than capable of giving the learn to pretty much anyone on this site in the twistys, they will brake later and harder than a bike and will carry a lot more corner speed than a bike ever will, the only advantage a bike has is straightline speed, not always enough. Sure most cars dont have a shit show, but you'd have to be pretty on it to give it to a good driver behind a evo or wrx, they're freakin weapons on the road. And both a bike and car are just as dangerous in a corner, but if i could have the grip a car offered on a bike i wouldn't say no.

ermm remind me to bring my skyline onto a KB ride if I ever get it back on the road... it beats a Evo 6 in stright line and a STi RA 2 Dr in the back roads... ..... :calm: now where is my keys.... :wacko:

[WINJA]

ermm remind me to bring my skyline onto a KB ride if I ever get it back on the road... it beats a Evo 6 in stright line and a STi RA 2 Dr in the back roads... ..... :calm: now where is my keys.... :wacko:
A BOY RACER IN A WRX COULDNT GET AWAY FROM ME GOING DOWN DOMAIN DRIVE AND I WAS ON A TR50 :Pokey: FUCK I GAVE HIM HEAPS HE COULDNT BELIEVE IT WAS A 50CC AUTOMATIC, WHAT I DIDNT TELL HIM WAS I RACED IT AND DID A MIILION LAPS AT A RACE TRACK , HE NEVER WILL LOOK AT HIS CAR THE SAME, WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY UP HILL THOUGH

[Stevo]

Wanna do a runner? I'd go for a dirt bike and head off road. But that is just me. A bit more at home there plus a cop car is gonna struggle in deep ruts

[mini_hooks_]

Wanna do a runner? I'd go for a dirt bike and head off road. But that is just me. A bit more at home there plus a cop car is gonna struggle in deep ruts

yeah thats a good idea...but how do you change bikes from an R1 to a dirt bike in the middle of a high speed chase??? :doh: but if you could find a way to do it, it would be a GREAT idea :2thumbsup :cool:

[mini_hooks_]

Damn, I've always wanted one of them. Isn't there a pub in Carterton that races them?

your avatar is just as good as mine!!! :Punk:

[aff-man]

Hahahahah saw this... and those runners out there i say you should aquire one

[Coyote]

your avatar is just as good as mine!!! :Punk:
Booyah!!!!

[Coyote]

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Where can you get hold of one of them. I'll have to get one and make it road legal

[mini_hooks_]

Hahahahah saw this... and those runners out there i say you should aquire one

were did you say you get those again...thats bloody awsome :lol:

[aff-man]

were did you say you get those again...thats bloody awsome :lol:

It's probably just a solanoid (spelling) really easy to make :eek:

[mini_hooks_]

It's probably just a solanoid (spelling) really easy to make :eek:

wait till you see dad's/hooks's bike next he'll have one :sly: :rockon:

[Zapf]

A BOY RACER IN A WRX COULDNT GET AWAY FROM ME GOING DOWN DOMAIN DRIVE AND I WAS ON A TR50 :Pokey: FUCK I GAVE HIM HEAPS HE COULDNT BELIEVE IT WAS A 50CC AUTOMATIC, WHAT I DIDNT TELL HIM WAS I RACED IT AND DID A MIILION LAPS AT A RACE TRACK , HE NEVER WILL LOOK AT HIS CAR THE SAME, WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY UP HILL THOUGH

true... but there are alot of crappy dingers out there even if its a WRX... and I assume u know the difference between a normail WRX and a STi 2Dr?

[mini_hooks_]

Where can you get hold of one of them. I'll have to get one and make it road legal

i've ridden one at a circus so i suppose you could ask them were to get them...but good luck on getting it road worthy :2thumbsup

[Mr Skid]

yeah thats a good idea...but how do you change bikes from an R1 to a dirt bike in the middle of a high speed chase??? :doh: but if you could find a way to do it, it would be a GREAT idea :2thumbsup :cool:

motard! :not:

[Coyote]

motard! :not:
Motard is awesome

[Coyote]

i've ridden one at a circus so i suppose you could ask them were to get them...but good luck on getting it road worthy :2thumbsup
I'll also add a roll cage and dirt suspension, for the hell of it

[mattt]

Where can you get hold of one of them. I'll have to get one and make it road legal

At all Harley Shops :yeah:

[dangerous]

yeah thats a good idea...but how do you change bikes from an R1 to a dirt bike in the middle of a high speed chase??? :doh: but if you could find a way to do it, it would be a GREAT idea :2thumbsup :cool:
Havent you watched biker Boys? ;)

[dangerous]

Hahahahah saw this... and those runners out there i say you should aquire one
ahh finely it opened..... a mate had his BMW100rs plate riged up to his choke nob, worked wel to.

[avgas]

OMG, as people already said, a 180 kg sportbike @ 200kmh, or even 100Kmh will seriously damage a car and its occupants. Its not even worth talking to people like yourself, your attitudes are so strangely backward.
Sorry bout that i was missinterpreted.
My point being, a car travelling 100 or 200ks into an accident it going to cause more trouble then a bike. As for that girl getting killed up north - wasnt that a highway 69 member running from the cops???? Either way it was a pity that it all happend like that. My heart felt sorrow that the family has to live with motorcyclists as the bane, the pit of their sorows. No one deserves to die young.
But no, lets ban all motorcycles that exceed 100ks.
On the rare occasions i do hit 200ks - it usually in the middle of the night (1-3 in the morn), out of town, where there are no cars, people.....even the cows are asleep.
As for damaging cars - that what they are there for. My ideals are not backwards, they simply keep other motorcyclist (or drivers for that matter) on the road safer. As it means when i drive a car, i treat it like a 500+kg heap of flying metal, and drive 1/2 as fast then if it were a 250ks peice of metal - keeping speeds down below speed limits. And accerelating slower as well.
Some people have other ideas on this matter, and feel if a car is as fast as a bike, it should be driven as fast.
Now do you believe i am full of shit cos i dont floor a cage everywhere?

[avgas]

A toilet so clean, even children now can safely play "barbies jacuzzi".

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Or G I Joe can play Phuket rescue

[jrandom]

As it means when i drive a car, i treat it like a 500+kg heap of flying metal, and drive 1/2 as fast then if it were a 250ks peice of metal

I have to respond to this.

You're missing some physics. Kinetic energy is a square function - it equals half of mass multiplied by the square of velocity. Something weighing half as much as something else, but travelling at twice the speed, has TWICE the energy. Your 250kg at 200kph will hit twice as hard as a 500kg mass travelling at 100kph.

But since cars are actually at *least* four times the mass of your bike, your hypothetical 250kg bike and rider at 200kph has the SAME impact energy as a 1000kg car and occupant (say, an MX5, or Starlet) hitting at 100kph.

And we all know how much mess even a smallish car makes when it hits something at 100kph.

So think about physics when you twist the throttle, and don't be too cavalier about the potential consequences of high-speed riding.

[WINJA]

true... but there are alot of crappy dingers out there even if its a WRX... and I assume u know the difference between a normail WRX and a STi 2Dr?
LATE MODEL TURBO 4 WHEEL DRIVE ANYTHING STILL LOOKS STUPID WHEN IT CANT BEAT AN AUTOMATIC 50 CC SCOOTER ROUND THE TWISTYS

[Quasievil]

I have to respond to this.

You're missing some physics. Kinetic energy is a square function - it equals half of mass multiplied by the square of velocity. Something weighing half as much as something else, but travelling at twice the speed, has TWICE the energy. Your 250kg at 200kph will hit twice as hard as a 500kg mass travelling at 100kph.

But since cars are actually at *least* four times the mass of your bike, your hypothetical 250kg bike and rider at 200kph has the SAME impact energy as a 1000kg car and occupant (say, an MX5, or Starlet) hitting at 100kph.

And we all know how much mess even a smallish car makes when it hits something at 100kph.

So think about physics when you twist the throttle, and don't be too cavalier about the potential consequences of high-speed riding.
Man you got a big brain :eek5:

[Motu]

I'll take on any bike with my Pajero....Micheal Schumacher taught me how to drive - you are allowd two moves - one to knock the wanker off his bike,another to back up and finish him off.

[jrandom]

Man you got a big brain :eek5:

Don't be silly, that's fifth form stuff.

Although you're *almost* an official Old Bugger, so you could be forgiven for either (a) forgetting it or (b) being grumpy enough to take the piss out of my (presumed) condescension. I can't figure out which one you're doing, though...

[mini_hooks_]

I'll also add a roll cage and dirt suspension, for the hell of it

ahhhhh.....the good times :2thumbsup

[manuboy]

LATE MODEL TURBO 4 WHEEL DRIVE ANYTHING STILL LOOKS STUPID WHEN IT CANT BEAT AN AUTOMATIC 50 CC SCOOTER ROUND THE TWISTYS

Dude, just on the quiet, i'm trying to grow some very very special gunja in quiet plot known only to the aliens and me. Except they're stuggling a little. Slightly burnt edges and not as quick as i'd like the wee buggers to grow.

I need a man who has a LOT of expericence with these herbs bro, and it sounds like you're my man. I'll fly ya down, put you up, anything - just as long as i come out of it with some fucking good herb bro...

I'll even let ya ride my electric step-thru... it eats porshe GT3's in the tight stuff... :crazy:

[Quasievil]

Don't be silly, that's fifth form stuff.

Although you're *almost* an official Old Bugger, so you could be forgiven for either (a) forgetting it or (b) being grumpy enough to take the piss out of my (presumed) condescension. I can't figure out which one you're doing, though...
I left school when I was 5 and turned to a biker gang for guidance and learning:stoogie:

[dangerous]

Manu: fuk thats still funny even after the 3rd read, but mate the electric step-thru is even faster than ya SV so that may not be a fair race :killingme

[lewis_walker]

LATE MODEL TURBO 4 WHEEL DRIVE ANYTHING STILL LOOKS STUPID WHEN IT CANT BEAT AN AUTOMATIC 50 CC SCOOTER ROUND THE TWISTYS

Is this serious? I hope not - but I have heard it many times from different fellow bikers that they reckon any old bike will beat a car through the twisties.

It just is not the case. Sure, a bike will accelerate out of a bend faster than a car, but a good car, driven well will do the corner itself faster than a bike.

I've even experienced this myself; I used to drive a BMW 330, and although it wasn't the fastest of cars it was pretty swift, and it had BIG tyres and good handling. I could actually out do 600's, 1000's etc. on a very twisty section on the way to work. (There wasn't enough length of straight for the bikes' acceleration to win out). I could brake later, and corner faster.

And if you think the bikers just weren't very good riders - it's not that, it's just boring old physics. Cars have good a much greater area of rubber in contact with the road, and the traction really makes for better braking and cornering, even when you take into account they are much heavier..

[avgas]

:wacko:
Man now im confused. So i usually do 120 or less on average on my bike, but know u want me to do 1/4 of that in my car. sorry i missed the point here.
What is said was:
A car travelling at the same speed as a bike is going to do more damage than a bike.
and i get bad rep for it
Either some one here doesnt believe this, or their lying.
one point too JR that i learnt was cars absorb impact, as do bikes. However motorcyclist also absorb impact during an accident (the drivers absorb a minor amount). So effectively the motorcyclist would be 1st to die, car driver 2nd.
Unless the car, hit motorbike, rider flys. But thankyou JR for pointing out kinematics to some people here :not: As some believe a car CAN travel as fast as a bike on the roads. Your a cool guy
Now in my final statement.......I am not some lunitic u all percieve me to be :laugh: Infact my worst accident i have ever had, i was only doing 35kph. I have thrown away all my childish needs many years ago. Infact my last bike was a GB with a top speed of 140 down a hill.
And to those of you, who still dont believe a am the semi-old type now.
Bite me :devil2: cos the rest of u seem a cool group of guys

[White trash]

Manu: fuk thats still funny even after the 3rd read, but mate the electric step-thru is even faster than ya SV so that may not be a fair race :killingme

This from a guy who rides a Guzzi and a Honda. What the hell is wrong with you man?

[White trash]

Is this serious? I hope not - but I have heard it many times from different fellow bikers that they reckon any old bike will beat a car through the twisties.

It just is not the case. Sure, a bike will accelerate out of a bend faster than a car, but a good car, driven well will do the corner itself faster than a bike.

I've even experienced this myself; I used to drive a BMW 330, and although it wasn't the fastest of cars it was pretty swift, and it had BIG tyres and good handling. I could actually out do 600's, 1000's etc. on a very twisty section on the way to work. (There wasn't enough length of straight for the bikes' acceleration to win out). I could brake later, and corner faster.

And if you think the bikers just weren't very good riders - it's not that, it's just boring old physics. Cars have good a much greater area of rubber in contact with the road, and the traction really makes for better braking and cornering, even when you take into account they are much heavier..

Half true.

Performance Bikes did a test two years ago between a modified WRX, a Gixxer 1K :not: and smelly old GS500.

The GS500 bet the car in every single test except the braking.

On the cornering, the bike would go to the outside, inside, any way the rider wanted.

[avgas]

:love2:
Now i got another good rep. Oh joy ren.
wots wrong with a GS500 - fine machine ;)
how about those 1/4 mile machines.......oh wait thats a straight

[Zapf]

:wacko:
Man now im confused. So i usually do 120 or less on average on my bike, but know u want me to do 1/4 of that in my car. sorry i missed the point here.
What is said was:
A car travelling at the same speed as a bike is going to do more damage than a bike.
and i get bad rep for it
Either some one here doesnt believe this, or their lying.
one point too JR that i learnt was cars absorb impact, as do bikes. However motorcyclist also absorb impact during an accident (the drivers absorb a minor amount). So effectively the motorcyclist would be 1st to die, car driver 2nd.
Unless the car, hit motorbike, rider flys. But thankyou JR for pointing out kinematics to some people here :not: As some believe a car CAN travel as fast as a bike on the roads. Your a cool guy
Now in my final statement.......I am not some lunitic u all percieve me to be :laugh: Infact my worst accident i have ever had, i was only doing 35kph. I have thrown away all my childish needs many years ago. Infact my last bike was a GB with a top speed of 140 down a hill.
And to those of you, who still dont believe a am the semi-old type now.
Bite me :devil2: cos the rest of u seem a cool group of guys

contary to what you think I recon the bike can do more damage than the car... See when a car hits something head on, the force is spread evenly across the entire front section of the car hence the crumple zone gets to work effectively. But when I bike impacts a car, that force is transmitted thru only a narrow section of the car.... 1/2 meter at most. Hence depending on where you hit, the passangers / car can be worse off than hitting another car...

we bikers really need ejection seats... helps to clear us of oncoming cages :innocent:

see the damage a bike does to cars.... check out the attachment.

[Kickaha]

What the hell is wrong with you man?


When you meet him you'll find it's fairly obvious :whistle:

[dangerous]

This from a guy who rides a Guzzi and a Honda. What the hell is wrong with you man?
Its the company down this way..... dodgy as

[jonnyrr1]

what is up with all the ball bag bike riders on this site...?
aaron has a good point...?
who hasnt done the runner or thought about it as the cop car turned his lights on and does a u-turn cause he saw you lift the front wheel or give it a lil to much gas and you know you were doing over 100kph.......?

iv done it a few times well maybe more than a few, but i also have paid my fines, and lost my licence........

so for all you cock suckers out there you need to chill the f*#k out and ride your bikes and relax,
why do you get so uptite about what some one on a web site has to say....?

you guys ... whoops i mean nanas are funny.

[loosebruce]

what is up with all the ball bag bike riders on this site...?
aaron has a good point...?
who hasnt done the runner or thought about it as the cop car turned his lights on and does a u-turn cause he saw you lift the front wheel or give it a lil to much gas and you know you were doing over 100kph.......?

iv done it a few times well maybe more than a few, but i also have paid my fines, and lost my licence........

so for all you cock suckers out there you need to chill the f*#k out and ride your bikes and relax,
why do you get so uptite about what some one on a web site has to say....?

you guys ... whoops i mean nanas are funny.

Aaron did have a good point bro, and im pretty sure that alot of bikers on this site have done The RUNNER at least once, me more than a few thats for sure and yeah i paid my fines, lost my licence (eh twice :Oops: ).
But i think you'll also find that alot of people on this site are more of the older wiser type (no offence peeps) and dont really get off too much on this kinda stuff being talked about on this site, there are other sites around where this stuff is all they talk about but not this one.
I dont think it's really fair for you to come onto this site as a new member and start calling people "cocksuckers" etc, and as for nana's well there are more than a few rather fast riders on this site. I know evreyone is entitled to there opinons for sure but yeah i think a majority of peeps on this site dont appreciate that kinda talk, so most of us keep it the minimum/or not at all to keep the peace and enjoy riding with the people we meet, as i'm sure you're meet some pretty kick arse people on this site. As i have.

Ride on man :cool:

[Motoracer]

Aaron did have a good point bro, and im pretty sure that alot of bikers on this site have done The RUNNER at least once, me more than a few thats for sure and yeah i paid my fines, lost my licence (eh twice :Oops: ).
But i think you'll also find that alot of people on this site are more of the older wiser type (no offence peeps) and dont really get off too much on this kinda stuff being talked about on this site, there are other sites around where this stuff is all they talk about but not this one.
I dont think it's really fair for you to come onto this site as a new member and start calling people "cocksuckers" etc, and as for nana's well there are more than a few rather fast riders on this site. I know evreyone is entitled to there opinons for sure but yeah i think a majority of peeps on this site dont appreciate that kinda talk, so most of us keep it the minimum/or not at all to keep the peace and enjoy riding with the people we meet, as i'm sure you're meet some pretty kick arse people on this site. As i have.

Ride on man :cool:Very well put bro. You deserve a good rep point!

[Kwaka-Kid]

Yeah well put LB Mate! You get my mark.

Id also like to say that along with what bruce said of people being the older wiser type often means they dont feel the need to brag/post crap about how the last 174 times they have run from those bloody cops who cant catch squat all. Infact i would even go as far as saying maybe they have noticed that we have a few HP guys signed up here, + ive heard dirty rumours of unsigned-up HP guys checking here!.. Theres a time and a place for everything, i wouldnt want anything i did that could come and bite me in the butt later on to be recorded on here.

And finally for my view? Yeah-Nah. Ill admit when ive seen the cop go passed me and know i was speeding... watching my mirrors as he indicates to do a U turn... its run through my head, change down change down, gas gas gas whats coming up next when can i next turn right? But my sense has always gotten the better of me (thankfully in every case) and i have pulled over, infact the time before last (first time, it doesnt happen often) by the time i realised he was pulling over and we had passed eachother at 100odd kmph each way and some thoughts of where i could run to had gone thru my head he was literally right behind me at the next glance in the mirror! was a smack back to reality that my little 400 isnt the shiznit, and that chances are a trained HP cop in his HP car could probably do my favourite set of twisties faster then me (those buggers have like 225's man!)

Meh, maybe my perception of reality is harsh but id rather it be that way then be living in a dream world.

[Zapf]

Quote from Sportsbike.com

This is reposted without permission from the LABiker mail list. Incredible accident scene photo. I'd bet wherever it's served from is gonna have problems cause this one is gonna get cross posted everywhere. Luckily, nobody died.
Here's the story from LABiker Brandon:

This photo is from a group ride yesterday (Sunday). A bunch of friends from Springfield, MO went for a group ride in northern Arkansas. Great roads, great weather, great day for a ride. Unfortunately an unknown 'new kid' on a 600RR joined the ride, with a a horrible ego/skill ratio. The guys were afraid to mention it to him, out of politeness I guess.

They should have. His riding ended up causing tens of thousands in damage, probably hundreds of thousands in medical, and only by the grace of God was no one killed. BARELY.

This is a shot taken at the scene of the accident, mere seconds after the crash. 'Bo' (lower left corner, *UNDER* the truck), is the new CBR 600RR rider that overcooked the corner and proceeded to lowside and wedge himself *under* the Chevy.

The older white Ford in the photo veered into the oncoming lane to go around the wreck, decided against it, and started backing down the hill. This is where Jason (Duc rider, Springfield Police Officer) met the truck, 1/2 way around the corner. Jason jumped from the bike just before impact, and ended up with his head/shoulder through the windshield. Paul (following behind Jason) hit the old Ford as well, though didn't sustain as much damage.

Luckily the other riders knew enough not to move ANYONE, so they left Bo under the truck, and Jason on the hood. Bo might lose his right arm; the doctors haven't decided yet. Jason was conscious the whole time, but understood not to move. Good thing. He's got a fractured C7 vertabra (I think the same thing that happened to Christopeher Reeves).

So...next time you think it's rude or impolite to tell that 'over his head' rider to cool down or screw off, think of this.

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well I'll let u all make up your own mind... But I reserve the right to refuse riding with anyone who is deemed to be a danger to themselves or others :moon:

[madboy]

After reading this entire thread, the conclusions I draw have bugger all to do with motorcylcing, and more to do with human nature. Why is it that many people have a complete intolerance for others whose views don't happen to agree with their own?

I understand that Aaron does the runner... so what? Those who vehemently disagree respond with insults. Will that stop him from doing the runner? I doubt it.

Hell, I've had the best part of 15 years of "input" into my driving/riding habits. This includes race/rally (cars), driving/riding instructors, mates, parents, inlaws, girlfriends, workmates (incl the CEO), lawyers, cops, even my daughter told me off for spinning it up in a 4WD Lancer (for the record, it was a slippery intersection!)

But yesterday in that same Lancer (minus the daughter) I was travelling at a speed that would surely draw insults from some of the forum users here. And were I not on holiday at the moment, I would be hitting similar speeds almost every day on the way to work on my bike. And had a cop jumped out of the bushes?? I'm damn sure the options would have been calculated pretty fast in my head - and losing my license for the 4th time is not high on my priority list.

Interesting that people chose to insult/degrade and fall back on saying that "oh, yeah, I did that years ago but now i'm older and wiser and i know better so you're just a #%&*@". Well in 10 or 20 years time when we're older and wiser, we'll probably agree. But did you listen back in the days? I sure as hell didn't!!

The very long-winded point i had, I guess, is tolerance. Act like adults for god's sake!!!!

[Bonez]

I'll take on any bike with my Pajero....Micheal Schumacher taught me how to drive - you are allowd two moves - one to knock the wanker off his bike,another to back up and finish him off.Lol. :killingme

[inlinefour]

"I'll take on any bike with my Pajero....Micheal Schumacher taught me how to drive - you are allowd two moves - one to knock the wanker off his bike,another to back up and finish him off."

I've got a Toyota Surf, but I've never thought of using it like that before :stupid: Now I'll use it to pick up a fallen rider and also his/her bike. I think I've had enough of this thread as it is getting pretty pathetic and I would have hope that maybe some people would have known better? :yes:

[Sniper]

Well only being 20 and still class myself as invincible (ummm??) I still wouldnt run from the cops.

I have so much to lose. My job, car, BIKE, relationship, friends. I live away from most forms of transport if I lose my licence I mean, Blenheim doesnt even have a bus service to help me out.

So Im just glad to say that my common sense gets the better of me everytime a policeman turns around. But in saying that, I dont mean to say that others have less common sense than me or anyone else for that matter. If you think you can run from the cops and get away, good on ya, you have a good story to tell at the next BBQ or down at the pub. But if you do it at the safety expense of others, you are a real wanker and deserve to be caught and put off the road!!

But thats my opinion and you can decide for yourself if Im right or wrong. I dont like pointing fingers but I do sit on the side and watch and learn

[mini_hooks_]

Well only being 20 and still class myself as invincible (ummm??) I still wouldnt run from the cops.

I have so much to lose. My job, car, BIKE, relationship, friends. I live away from most forms of transport if I lose my licence I mean, Blenheim doesnt even have a bus service to help me out.

So Im just glad to say that my common sense gets the better of me everytime a policeman turns around. But in saying that, I dont mean to say that others have less common sense than me or anyone else for that matter. If you think you can run from the cops and get away, good on ya, you have a good story to tell at the next BBQ or down at the pub. But if you do it at the safety expense of others, you are a real wanker and deserve to be caught and put off the road!!

But thats my opinion and you can decide for yourself if Im right or wrong. I dont like pointing fingers but I do sit on the side and watch and learn

that is well said...i like your way of thinking.....buy the way does blenhim have any cars at all???? :shifty:

[Sniper]

Cars?? what are caares??

[Stevo]

.........................and losing my license for the 4th time is not high on my priority list.

Act like adults for god's sake!!!!

Well you said it!
You are obviously one to not think of your daughter and family OR have THEM high on your priority list. It also seems you will lose your license again with your current attitude.

I always seem to have demerit points! and at the moment 75 of them

BUT
I alter my driving behaviour a bit so as not to lose my license. I rather love my freedom of being able to get where I want when I want and not having to rely on others or risk driving without a license

[NZIrish]

After reading this entire thread, the conclusions I draw have bugger all to do with motorcylcing, and more to do with human nature. Why is it that many people have a complete intolerance for others whose views don't happen to agree with their own?

I understand that Aaron does the runner... so what? Those who vehemently disagree respond with insults. Will that stop him from doing the runner? I doubt it.

Hell, I've had the best part of 15 years of "input" into my driving/riding habits. This includes race/rally (cars), driving/riding instructors, mates, parents, inlaws, girlfriends, workmates (incl the CEO), lawyers, cops, even my daughter told me off for spinning it up in a 4WD Lancer (for the record, it was a slippery intersection!)

But yesterday in that same Lancer (minus the daughter) I was travelling at a speed that would surely draw insults from some of the forum users here. And were I not on holiday at the moment, I would be hitting similar speeds almost every day on the way to work on my bike. And had a cop jumped out of the bushes?? I'm damn sure the options would have been calculated pretty fast in my head - and losing my license for the 4th time is not high on my priority list.

Interesting that people chose to insult/degrade and fall back on saying that "oh, yeah, I did that years ago but now i'm older and wiser and i know better so you're just a #%&*@". Well in 10 or 20 years time when we're older and wiser, we'll probably agree. But did you listen back in the days? I sure as hell didn't!!

The very long-winded point i had, I guess, is tolerance. Act like adults for god's sake!!!!


I agree with this thread and think no one should be pointing the finger at anyone saying "he/she should do that and he/she should do this"...at the end of the day it's a difference of opinion..........no ones asking you to go to war over it.
On the topic of the Police & Driving habits; There are Police members members here who may know other Police who have bad driving habits, as there are motorcyclists with bad riding habits.
I know of a few while off duty who have done 'runners' in their cars & bikes from their mates. In one instance I heard of a member who overturned his car after a jug night, was tracked by a dog handler mate to an address but would'nt' come out.
During the mid to late eighties cops in Wellington would on a night-shift, chase each other around the Wellington Streets in the early hours, throwing eggs and rotten veges at each other from their patrol cars, driving at excessive brek-neck speeds, up one way streets, using their lights & sirens etc etc,to alleviate boredom and increase moral.
There are numerous war stories such as these, that show the Police themselves are not exempt when it comes to the misuse of speed, most of us in fact have seen it in the news how 'senior' Police members have been caught speeding...in some cases quite seriously. The point is that before anyone here slams 'anyone' for their behaviour, a self anaylsis of your own behaviour can be a very sobering thing!

[James Deuce]

I don't care how anyone puts, a 200kg bike travelling at speeds in excess of 200km/hr is going to kill someone if the runner gets it wrong. We had proof of that last year.

If you're going to discuss "human nature" please bear in mind that we are only physically capable of instantly responding to a situation at speeds of less than 12 mph. Over that, reaction time becomes an increasingly important factor. We had a graphic example of how a speeding bike, doing a runner from the cops, can kill an "innocent bystander" and do horrendous damage to the vehicle it struck.

I've got kids. I'm not going to lie down and say that it's OK for someone to add yet another thing to the list of stuff that can kill them needlessly (it's always needless btw). Especially if it is preventable by doing something simple like stopping when you get pinged. Respect for the law of the country you live in is the cornerstone of civilisation. Giving in to personal desires to avoid punishment is a slippery slope.

Running is stupid. It puts you at risk, the cop chasing (who also doesn't need to add yet another risk factor to their already risky job) at risk, and everybody you flash by at supersonic speed at risk. That fundamental lack of respect for well known limitations on "personal freedom" (speed limits), and the fundamental lack of respect for the consequences of your actions is what got me riled up.

There are better ways to commit suicide, and less random ways to kill someone. Oh yeah, that's right I forgot. Everybody who answers to the negative of my point will no doubt claim that their huge personal skill on a motorcycle will allow them to avoid any potential problem. Yeah right.

[Bonez]

There are better ways to commit suicide, and less random ways to kill someone. Oh yeah, that's right I forgot. Everybody who answers to the negative of my point will no doubt claim that their huge personal skill on a motorcycle will allow them to avoid any potential problem. Yeah right. Spot on ol son.

[avgas]

Aaron did have a good point bro, and im pretty sure that alot of bikers on this site have done The RUNNER at least once, me more than a few thats for sure and yeah i paid my fines, lost my licence (eh twice :Oops: ).
But i think you'll also find that alot of people on this site are more of the older wiser type (no offence peeps) and dont really get off too much on this kinda stuff being talked about on this site, there are other sites around where this stuff is all they talk about but not this one.
I dont think it's really fair for you to come onto this site as a new member and start calling people "cocksuckers" etc, and as for nana's well there are more than a few rather fast riders on this site. I know evreyone is entitled to there opinons for sure but yeah i think a majority of peeps on this site dont appreciate that kinda talk, so most of us keep it the minimum/or not at all to keep the peace and enjoy riding with the people we meet, as i'm sure you're meet some pretty kick arse people on this site. As i have.

Ride on man :cool:

Yeh valid point here. At then end of the day - everyone here rides (hopefully). Isnt that what counts. Anyhows the avgas's is doing dishes - so if i dont get up im a dead man.
Im sorry to everyone here who thinks i do 200kph everywhere, i dont. I have hit it though (as mentioned before - when the cows sleep), as have alot of you - so dont be so critical of me.
Havent gone past 240 yet though. I did a runner from the cops years ago - when i was still young and arrogant. Now im young and broken (learned)

[scumdog]

. Why is it that many people have a complete intolerance for others whose views don't happen to agree with their own?

I understand that Aaron does the runner... so what? Those who vehemently disagree respond with insults. Will that stop him from doing the runner? I doubt it.

But yesterday in that same Lancer (minus the daughter) I was travelling at a speed that would surely draw insults from some of the forum users here. And were I not on holiday at the moment, I would be hitting similar speeds almost every day on the way to work on my bike. And had a cop jumped out of the bushes?? I'm damn sure the options would have been calculated pretty fast in my head - and losing my license for the 4th time is not high on my priority list.

The very long-winded point i had, I guess, is tolerance. Act like adults for god's sake!!!!

(1) Just because YOU have an opinion differing to the rest does not make it any more 'right' especially when it involves a possible risk to those others, our opinion relates to what is legal combined with what could pose a risk to us.

(2) Losing your licence for the 4th!!!! time (WTF) might not be a priority to YOU but if you're that slow a learner I think it is an immediately a priority for the rest of us. How many time would you piss on a live electric fence before you learned it was not the best thing to do? probably more times than the rest of us. :disapint:

(3) Yes, we are trying to act like adults, we have a bit of 'fun' now and then but don't blow our trumpets about how we are making a career out of breaking the law. :2thumbsup

If you comments are not a troll you are one sorry-arsed slow learner!! :angry:

[scumdog]

Why is it the 'newest' members (especially those born in the mid 70's) seem to have the most to say and often in the most provocative way and in disagreement with us less young members?
Must be 'human nature I'd say? <_<

[avgas]

There are better ways to commit suicide, and less random ways to kill someone. Oh yeah, that's right I forgot. Everybody who answers to the negative of my point will no doubt claim that their huge personal skill on a motorcycle will allow them to avoid any potential problem. Yeah right.
I dont condone killing people, if they deserve to die - you just ignore them.
:apint:
or do this :kick: :eyepoke: :bash:
I dont have any skill.....cos ive only been riding for 10 years.
funny thing is heaps of people get theyre egos confused with skill.
This forums is like :brick: either way we're all dicks whou should be out riding.
Final points, dont run from cops......but if you do (you dumbass), it better be for a really good reason.
Im going for a ride

[avgas]

Why is it the 'newest' members (especially those born in the mid 70's) seem to have the most to say and often in the most provocative way and in disagreement with us less young members?
Must be 'human nature I'd say? <_<
Yeh funny thing is all the ol' ens i ride with are absolutely nuts. They all god hell for leather and leave me in theyre dust. Have to be different bikes for different types or something. Cos they all ride ZZR1100s, ZX10s, R1s, 955's and aprillas.

[WINJA]

Is this serious? I hope not - but I have heard it many times from different fellow bikers that they reckon any old bike will beat a car through the twisties.

It just is not the case. Sure, a bike will accelerate out of a bend faster than a car, but a good car, driven well will do the corner itself faster than a bike.

I've even experienced this myself; I used to drive a BMW 330, and although it wasn't the fastest of cars it was pretty swift, and it had BIG tyres and good handling. I could actually out do 600's, 1000's etc. on a very twisty section on the way to work. (There wasn't enough length of straight for the bikes' acceleration to win out). I could brake later, and corner faster.

And if you think the bikers just weren't very good riders - it's not that, it's just boring old physics. Cars have good a much greater area of rubber in contact with the road, and the traction really makes for better braking and cornering, even when you take into account they are much heavier..
OF COURSE YOUD THINK A CAR IS FASTER YOU PROBABLY CANT RIDE PROPERLY. I HAVE SEEN 100S OF TIMES WHEN A CAR TRIED TO RACE ME AND I CAN BEAT IT EVERY WHERE ON THE ROAD , THE CORNERS THE STRAIGHTS AND THE BRAKES, I ALWAYS SAY THOSE WHO CANT RIDE DRIVE YOU FIT PERFECTLY IN THIS CATEGORY DID YOU READ MY EARLIER POST BLADE V NSX . WERE YOU AT PUKE WHEN CRAIG BAIRD WAS TESTING BMW'S

[onearmedbandit]

Winja - a racetrack is different to some pot-holed, rutted, gravelly hill road. Sure bikes can stop quicker than most cars, but only in ideal conditions. On a track, yep I'd give it to the bike most times (seen enough tests from both car and bike mags proving this point) but on some shitty poorly maintained public road, hmmmm, there lies the difference.

[onearmedbandit]

And SD, I was born in the mid 70's. Hope you're not putting me in some grouping because of my age. Was just talking to another rider (01 R1) last night, and while we agreed that speed is still a buzz for us, we also agreed that we'd rather go for a quickish ride that we come home from in one piece, than an all and all out blast with a trip to the hospital/morgue at the end. Obvious I know, but this is coming from two riders who have done the odd runner, lost our licences once or twice, but have now 'matured'. We all go through it.

[inlinefour]

opinionated B/S is all this is. Obviously no one has actually been around the high preformance car scene here. If they had then remarks like above would not exsist. I've been passed by a few cars while racing on a high preformance bike in the past. Has anyone bothered to look at all the forms of motorsport and THEN compare that to their own riding abilities, I'd say not...

[onearmedbandit]

Was that aimed at me Honda?? Because if it was nowhere did I say I'd completed these tests. This info came from numerous tests I've read. I should have also stated that these tests were all done on tracks, you know, billiard table smooth, no traffic to worry about, dry conditions. On a normal public road, it would go to the vehicle with more contact patch. And I've driven many many hi-po cars, from older V8's through to STi's, EVO's, highly modded GTR's, NSX, factory 911RSR racer (on the road, not the best place for it!!), so I can speak from experience.

[Jantar]

[QUOTE=Jim2]
Running is stupid. It puts you at risk, the cop chasing (who also doesn't need to add yet another risk factor to their already risky job) at risk, ..... QUOTE]

But the cop does have the option of not to chase. That way no-one is at risk.

[James Deuce]

Running is stupid. It puts you at risk, the cop chasing (who also doesn't need to add yet another risk factor to their already risky job) at risk, .....

But the cop does have the option of not to chase. That way no-one is at risk.

Not entirely true. If every cop ignored every situation requiring a chase, then at least one of them would lose their job for not actually doing it.

[scumdog]

And SD, I was born in the mid 70's. Hope you're not putting me in some grouping because of my age. Was just talking to another rider (01 R1) last night, and while we agreed that speed is still a buzz for us, we also agreed that we'd rather go for a quickish ride that we come home from in one piece, than an all and all out blast with a trip to the hospital/morgue at the end. Obvious I know, but this is coming from two riders who have done the odd runner, lost our licences once or twice, but have now 'matured'. We all go through it.

Hell no, far from it, I never relaise that you WERE born in the mid 70's it was more of a :Pokey: at the two more vocal pro-runner members on this thread who were both born in '75 and who have about 50 or so postings between them.

No problem with you attitude to a quick blast in an 'appropriate' area, good for getting rid of the 'cobwebs' :msn-wink: :whistle:

[scumdog]

[QUOTE=Jim2]
Running is stupid. It puts you at risk, the cop chasing (who also doesn't need to add yet another risk factor to their already risky job) at risk, ..... QUOTE]

But the cop does have the option of not to chase. That way no-one is at risk.

Not always so, several crashes have been a result of idiots doing a runner as soon as a cop-car appears on the horizon, regardless of the fact the cop hasn't even realised these idiots a speeding off and has not even chased them.
This includes a pretty bad one down here a few years ago, driver was drunk and disqualified, saw cop-car on another street and did runner, cop wasn't chasing but found crash after seeing car spin out and discoverd it wrapped around a pole, that's just one intance of that but yeah if there were no chases there would likely be less crashes.

Just hope the public would be happy with the response "yeah, we spotted your stolen car with all your burgled property inside it but we decided not to chase it for safety reasons...."

[onearmedbandit]

Ahhh, '75, 't was a fine year.

[onearmedbandit]

Off topic I know, but on an American sportbike forum I frequent we had a guy complaining about getting pulled for a routine check, mainly because of the number of bike thefts in that area. See, the cop was actually looking out for joe public (late at night, like 2am or something) but the guy couldn't see this. All it was to him was an annoyance, couldn't see the reasoning behind it. Sure, its annoying getting impeded in your flow due to a 'routine' check, but I'd rather that knowing that the police were taking part in an active attempt to reduce bike thefts. Can't win 'em all though, always going to have someone upset. Seems as though the old internet has given them a louder voice.

[scumdog]

Ahhh, '75, 't was a fine year.

Especially if you were in your mid 20's :whistle:

[jrandom]

Born in 1975?

Pah. Ancient worn-out senile buggers the lot of 'em.

[Sniper]

Hahaha :lol:

Glad I was born in the 80's?

[onearmedbandit]

Eh, who said that? Let my find my glasses, ah now thats better. Oh shit, these are bettys. Betty, where'd I put my damn glasses? Why, in my day we'd have you flogged, publicly. Grumble grumble.

[inlinefour]

Eh, who said that? Let my find my glasses, ah now thats better. Oh shit, these are bettys. Betty, where'd I put my damn glasses? Why, in my day we'd have you flogged, publicly. Grumble grumble.


I think you missed to boat/point here. Motorsport comes in all forms just like the vehicles on PS2 games and the such. Many of these forms of motorsport may be watched on sky digital and do not exsist in NZ, nor buy any shit show in hell, are permitted on any road in most places in the western world. There ARE cars that will beat you or others on their bikes, just none that you will ever encounter probably within yer lifetime... (Oh and originally it was not directed just at you). :niceone:

[Blakamin]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3146860a11,00.html
and put a good driver in it and see if it cant outrun a bike....


oh and Avgas, my dads best mates wife became a vegetable when some fuckwit was doing a runner... yeah, he (rider) died and she didnt, but to her 3 under-5 year old daughters and her husband she might as well have...... she could never remember who the were....
and the rider wasnt doing more than 140 without a headlight when he went straight up the bonnet and into the passenger-side windscreen..... doesn't take 200k to wreck someone elses life.


peace

[onearmedbandit]

I think you missed to boat/point here. Motorsport comes in all forms just like the vehicles on PS2 games and the such. Many of these forms of motorsport may be watched on sky digital and do not exsist in NZ, nor buy any shit show in hell, are permitted on any road in most places in the western world. There ARE cars that will beat you or others on their bikes, just none that you will ever encounter probably within yer lifetime... (Oh and originally it was not directed just at you). :niceone:


Maybe I've missed the boat here again, but since when have we been talking pure race cars? (re your reference to motorsport.) And if you read my post I agreed that a well sorted car with a good driver would take down a bike on most, if not all, roads.

Still trying to get my head around your motorsport reference. I don't see the relevance. Help the blind to see Honda.

[Blakamin]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=lambo
by how much?????? 0.4 of a second.... and thats a 999 with a friggin good rider... but listen to the commentary..... a car can beat a bike, heaps of times... just not this one

[Blakamin]

I think you missed to boat/point here. Motorsport comes in all forms just like the vehicles on PS2 games and the such. Many of these forms of motorsport may be watched on sky digital and do not exsist in NZ, nor buy any shit show in hell, are permitted on any road in most places in the western world. There ARE cars that will beat you or others on their bikes, just none that you will ever encounter probably within yer lifetime... (Oh and originally it was not directed just at you). :niceone:
and I still reckon this guys evo would kill you over Pi-Cock hill

[NC]

Ahhh, '75, 't was a fine year.
But '81 was still waaaay better :eek:

[Sensei]

65 Yea now that's getting more like it
SENSEI

[avgas]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3146860a11,00.html
and put a good driver in it and see if it cant outrun a bike....
oh and Avgas, my dads best mates wife became a vegetable when some fuckwit was doing a runner... yeah, he (rider) died and she didnt, but to her 3 under-5 year old daughters and her husband she might as well have...... she could never remember who the were....
and the rider wasnt doing more than 140 without a headlight when he went straight up the bonnet and into the passenger-side windscreen..... doesn't take 200k to wreck someone elses life.
peace
yeh good point, however i dont think u will see me riding without a headlight.
But a point i put to you is, how fast is your bike? The reason i ask this is u must quote a speed you have done on it.....no.
Sad to hear about your dads mate man, its riders like this that shouldnt be allowed to get on the road in the 1st place.
PS: My runners from the cops were below 100kph. And lasted for about 30sec - where i could tuck the bike somewhere and switch it off. The guy who started this thread.....well thats another story

[onearmedbandit]

One of my brothers was born in Nov 1969, so of course one of his favourite songs was...??

[onearmedbandit]

The guy who started this thread.....well thats another story

Well tell us what the story is, would love to know.

[Blakamin]

But a point i put to you is, how fast is your bike? The reason i ask this is u must quote a speed you have done on it.....no.

not very fast.... I prefer corners and trying to go around them quick....and pie-cock has a 100k limit.... trying the corners at that would be interesting!
dont know what the Duc top speed is.... goin fast in a straight line was something I used to spend money on in (semi) drag cars in my early 20s
I did a hundred and SomethingAboveFif.... about 6500rpm, the other day (yesterday) in a passing lane on a road divided by a big concrete wall.... then I saw a cop car on the otherside and backed off to 110.... I think the boy-racer behind me was more shocked with the cop, coz I had a feeling he was there somewhere... had been all day
probably the first time i've ridden over 120 in over a month.... Its only a short trip to the twisties from my house (10k) so fast speeds aren't really needed.
hence, the 600 and not a 900.
also, with the shitty SH1, one-lane-road-with-people-doing-70k-on-it around these parts, makes it hard to go ballistic even if I wanted to. :)

[edit] the guy switched the light off coz he was doing a runner... it was just getting dark and he'd had a beer or 6... bike wasn't stolen tho

[Slipstream]

One of my brothers was born in Nov 1969, so of course one of his favourite songs was...??
'Summer of 69' by ...Bryan Adams???

[mini_hooks_]

'Summer of 69' by ...Bryan Adams???

i thought it would be "getting old is just one of those things" by dire straits
:gob: :shifty:

[avgas]

Well tell us what the story is, would love to know.
"Hey there mister tambourine man, play a song for me........"
Sorry my sis is the big bob dylan fan.
hmmmmmmmmm story.
This is my favourite story to listen too before/after/during a ride
"In the shuffelling madness, of a locomotives breath......" :Punk: :ride:
but another good story "Take a look at my girlfriend, shes the only one i got...." :hug:
cant really relate to the 60's sorry - back then i would have been in my -20s

[dangerous]

i thought it would be "getting old is just one of those things" by dire straits
:gob: :shifty:
That aint no dire straits song, fella

[mini_hooks_]

That aint no dire straits song, fella
whoops :killingme sorry i was looking at the wrong band name its a hardline song...sorry mate

[mini_hooks_]

Cars?? what are caares??

LMFAO... i thought as much!!! but if no cars, why roads? :killingme

[Hitcher]

whoops sorry i was looking at the wrong band name its a hardline song...sorry mate
Oy! Let's have a bit of capitalisation around here. You're lucky I'm not a moderator or otherwise nobody would be able to get to use smilies until they had first passed a spelling and punctuation test!

[Firefight]

Oy! Let's have a bit of capitalisation around here. You're lucky I'm not a moderator or otherwise nobody would be able to get to use smilies until they had first passed a spelling and punctuation test!

thats not fair, Id never be able to use them.

F/F :crazy:

[onearmedbandit]

'Summer of 69' by ...Bryan Adams???

Give that lady a gold star!!

[2_SL0]

oH pOOh :moon: :bleh: :yes: :lol: :shake: :first: :)

[NC]

Stop it!




:laugh:

[Ex Cop]

:Police: As an ex and possibly reformed cop maybe I can shed a little light, firstly most cops live for chases or any adrenalin buzz whether they like to admit it or not that is why they joined up in the first place. I have in the past caught some very quick bikes in a patrol car and as soon as they turned onto a back road I was pretty sure I was going to catch them unless they were extremly good. A car can corner very fast full lock, sledging around corners and it takes big balls to out ride a well trained cop.

The call for calling off the pursuit is made on the info given to ops by cop in pursuit, how hyped up he is, traffic cond, speeds etc all play a part. If the cop remains calm and gives limited info who says it isnt safe? Only if it all turns to custard does he end up in the crap.

If he can prove you knew you were being chased then that is Reckless driving and hello jail, Mr popularity :buggerd: :moon:

Personally I had the attitude that if a guy could outrun me and the radio then he deseved to get away but mine was a minority view.

Rather than out run I believe you would be better to out smart!

Apart from all this the chances of making sound choices at 220 plus for more than a few minutes on any road and not killing some one is very slim. Lastly remember when in court a Judge will ALWAYS believe the cops story unless you have some VERY VERY good evidence to the contrary. :done:

[avgas]

I used to run away from my parents with no pants on. :rolleyes: :laugh:
Then i turned 18 :bleh:

[Jantar]

: Lastly remember when in court a Judge will ALWAYS believe the cops story unless you have some VERY VERY good evidence to the contrary. :done:

This is probably the main reason why motorcyclists will attempt a runner. We all know of cases where riders have been ticketed at speeds that they simply were not doing, (someone trying to makle quaota perhaps?), then when they try and defend the ticket in front of a judge, the court will almost always believe the cop first.

There are times that I have successfully done a runner, but more often I'll stop, take the ticket, then defend the case. I have got off a lot of tickets through a sound defense in court.

[mini_hooks_]

Oy! Let's have a bit of capitalisation around here. You're lucky I'm not a moderator or otherwise nobody would be able to get to use smilies until they had first passed a spelling and punctuation test!

:whocares: spelling isnt an essential part of this site so long as the people can still read it... :niceone:

[Hitcher]

Spelling isn't an essential part of this site so long as the people can still read it...
You say that now, Grasshopper...

[Yokai]

I used to run away from my parents with no pants on. :rolleyes: :laugh:
Then i turned 18 :bleh:
And now girls run away from you with no pants on .... or so I've heard
:lol:

[James Deuce]

:whocares: spelling isnt an essential part of this site so long as the people can still read it... :niceone:
Some of us can't. I loathe sitting down to someone's incoherent, unpunctuated, nihilistic dissertation on the apparent "l337n355" of blue tyres.

Grow some cojones and learnt to use YOUR language properly, instead of toeing the anti-existentialist, PC line that nothing is my fault or responsibility. EVERYTHING is your fault AND your responsibility.

[vifferman]

:Police: As an ex and possibly reformed cop ...Welcome to Kiwi Biker, Ex cop. :spudwave:



Hey - did you used to be a policeman? :spudwhat:

[Ex Cop]

Welcome to Kiwi Biker, Ex cop. :spudwave:



Hey - did you used to be a policeman? :spudwhat:

:o Yeah I was a snake for 8 years :innocent:

[NC]

Well :sly:

:crazy:

[inlinefour]

Maybe I've missed the boat here again, but since when have we been talking pure race cars? (re your reference to motorsport.) And if you read my post I agreed that a well sorted car with a good driver would take down a bike on most, if not all, roads.

Still trying to get my head around your motorsport reference. I don't see the relevance. Help the blind to see Honda.

Yea I prefer the two wheeled type, but I also follow the cage racing that comes in all sorts of forms (WRC, V8 Supercars, Trucks and a multitude of car classes). I don't believe that comparing one to another is right, just like comparing my mate on his Lead scooter should not be compared to my bike. They are just different and all pretty awesome in their own respect :headbang:

[dangerous]

Well :sly:

:crazy:
arrrrrrrrrr................ how the hell do you get away with 1 word 1 smiley posts...... I tried this yesterday and the message I got was a min of 10 caractors, are you special or something :msn-wink:

[inlinefour]

American Medical Association researchers have made a remarkable discovery.

It seems that some patients needing blood transfusions may benefit from receiving chicken blood rather than human blood.

It tends to make the men cocky and the women lay better.
.......Just thought you'd like to know.

Thought it might help those who want to improve their self esteem :killingme

[Blakamin]

Some of us can't. I loathe sitting down to someone's incoherent, unpunctuated, nihilistic dissertation on the apparent "l337n355" of blue tyres.

and here I am without my dictionary handy.....


I think he means "I fuckin hate it when people dont write in proper english"


but I can't be sure :shutup:

[Sniper]

arrrrrrrrrr................ how the hell do you get away with 1 word 1 smiley posts...... I tried this yesterday and the message I got was a min of 10 caractors, are you special or something :msn-wink:

Try adding a few space bar strokes before a space :whistle:

[spudchucka]

:o Yeah I was a snake for 8 years :innocent:
Pre or post merger?

[MSTRS]

:o Yeah I was a snake for 8 years :innocent:
Now, as a novitiate, it is recommended that for you to achieve full membership, you must rejoin the ranks & become our private fifth columnist :niceone:

[marty]

iS tIHS wAHT yUO'RE tAKLING aBUOT mR hITCHRE?

[marty]

Grow some cojones and learnt to use YOUR language properly, instead of toeing the anti-existentialist, PC line that nothing is my fault or responsibility. EVERYTHING is your fault AND your responsibility................:rockon:

[avgas]

And now girls run away from you with no pants on .... or so I've heard
:lol:
You'd be supprised.
Nah with the weather being as it is - gotta were the pants these days.
Unless im really drunk and my GF is around to look afta me :innocent:
...
in conclusion i would like to say this
"Thunderlizards Rule!!!" :moon:

[NC]

arrrrrrrrrr................ how the hell do you get away with 1 word 1 smiley posts...... I tried this yesterday and the message I got was a min of 10 caractors, are you special or something :msn-wink:
Yeah, I'm psycho, remember?
:shifty:

[Ex Cop]

Pre or post merger?

5 years pre merger, 3 years post. Did the full cross training etc. :brick:

[Ex Cop]

Now, as a novitiate, it is recommended that for you to achieve full membership, you must rejoin the ranks & become our private fifth columnist :niceone:

:finger: to that idea, I would rather be :buggerd: up the :moon: then :Pokey: I'm a reformed :tugger: and have no intentions of going back!

Dont get me wrong there are alot of nice cops in the job. I just didnt work with many of them.

:ride: :yeah: :ride:

[spudchucka]

:finger: to that idea, I would rather be :buggerd: up the :moon: then :Pokey: I'm a reformed :tugger: and have no intentions of going back!

Dont get me wrong there are alot of nice cops in the job. I just didnt work with many of them.

:ride: :yeah: :ride:
Where did you work? I'll be sure never to transfer there!

[scumdog]

Where did you work? I'll be sure never to transfer there!

Spud, vacancy here and you can't get a better than that - NOBODY who's come down here regretted it, and we're ALL friendly eh!

[Ghost Lemur]

Spud, vacancy here and you can't get a better than that - NOBODY who's come down here regretted it, and we're ALL friendly eh!

I'd just like to go to one of you're Christmas Parties. I can almost picture the flow of whisky.... pffft and they thought that piddly wave was large. :lol:

[scumdog]

I'd just like to go to one of you're Christmas Parties. I can almost picture the flow of whisky.... pffft and they thought that piddly wave was large. :lol:

Last Christmas Party was a doozie, much drinking, China Beach fancy dress and if somebody had struck a match in the mini-bus on the way home it would have ignited like Bhudist monk at a protest! :crazy:

[marty]

ahh the mainland retirement home. does ANYONE ever come back up north after smelling the sweet sweet smells of the canterbury plains/mckenzie country/central otago????

[marty]

still, there's not much that beats a good piss up and fight in the rotorua police bar

[Mongoose]

ahh the mainland retirement home. does ANYONE ever come back up north after smelling the sweet sweet smells of the canterbury plains/mckenzie country/central otago????

Why would they want to?? :buggerd: if I know

[spudchucka]

Last Christmas Party was a doozie, much drinking, China Beach fancy dress and if somebody had struck a match in the mini-bus on the way home it would have ignited like Bhudist monk at a protest! :crazy:
We had a bus tour this year, visited 4 rural pubs, which was just right. I reckon just one more pub an it could have got ugly though.

Thanks for the invite SD but down your way would be too close to the inlaws for for my liking.

[NC]

Spud, vacancy here and you can't get a better than that - NOBODY who's come down here regretted it, and we're ALL friendly eh!
They have crime in Otago?

[Yokai]

They have crime in Otago?
Not if you don't count marrying your sister (ducks and runs)...

[vifferman]

ahh the mainland retirement home. does ANYONE ever come back up north after smelling the sweet sweet smells of the canterbury plains/mckenzie country/central otago????Yes.
But they regret it for YEARS afterwards.:crybaby:

But (am I allowed two buts in a row, in one post?!?) we'll be returning to our spiritual home soon(ish).:headbang:

[Gasman]

Well here we go again. I've been away for 3 months and lookat this! 16 pages of thread caused by another go fast wanker, wanting to boast about his prowess. Since it was a few months ago, are you still out there, as in ALIVE? Perhaps you learn't that not all bikers think (or more accurately can't think) like you.


There's another born every minute........... :angry2:

Looks like the end of the thread is much more fun...nice words about Canterbury.......can't be a bad thing, and FANTASTIC for riding.....just like I did yesterday.

[Ghost Lemur]

...But (am I allowed two buts in a row, in one post?!?) we'll be returning to our spiritual home soon(ish).:headbang:

Where? When?

You must be looking foward to doing the Pass', etc, with mrsV on the back.

[vifferman]

Where? When?

You must be looking foward to doing the Pass', etc, with mrsV on the back.I lived in Chch for a mere 26 munce (left in late '96), but we're planning to move back when the youngest finishes high school, so that'll be in about 3 years. If I can wait that long....
We've been back a few times since leaving, mainly to go skiing.
There's a lot of rides still do do, as apart from Kaikoura to Chch, I've ridden only around Lyttleton Harbour, Port Hills, and the city itself.

The way the vifferbabe's talking, I reckon we'll do The Big Tour long before we move back though, so I reckon we may see a few more KBers this summer or next.:)

[dangerous]

There's a lot of rides still do do, as apart from Kaikoura to Chch, I've ridden only around Lyttleton Harbour, Port Hills, and the city itself.

Went for a spin up to Arthers Pass today for lunch with SuzyQ great rd, twin territory up there it tiz and less that 300k return.

[Mongoose]

They have crime in Otago?

You may be suprised what we have in Otago ;)

[mini_hooks_]

ahh the mainland retirement home. does ANYONE ever come back up north after smelling the sweet sweet smells of the canterbury plains/mckenzie country/central otago????

i did... :2thumbsup :thud:

[madboy]

wow... how easy it is to wind up the ignorant. I notice people are quick to judge without ever seeking the factual basis behind it.

While I admit to runners, and I admit to 3 disq, I'm interested to know what people think I did during/causing these outcomes?

And thank you to the person who was kind enough to give me the red mark... appreciate your feedback.

:2thumbsup

[spudchucka]

After reading this entire thread, the conclusions I draw have bugger all to do with motorcylcing, and more to do with human nature. Why is it that many people have a complete intolerance for others whose views don't happen to agree with their own?

I understand that Aaron does the runner... so what? Those who vehemently disagree respond with insults. Will that stop him from doing the runner? I doubt it.

Hell, I've had the best part of 15 years of "input" into my driving/riding habits. This includes race/rally (cars), driving/riding instructors, mates, parents, inlaws, girlfriends, workmates (incl the CEO), lawyers, cops, even my daughter told me off for spinning it up in a 4WD Lancer (for the record, it was a slippery intersection!)

But yesterday in that same Lancer (minus the daughter) I was travelling at a speed that would surely draw insults from some of the forum users here. And were I not on holiday at the moment, I would be hitting similar speeds almost every day on the way to work on my bike. And had a cop jumped out of the bushes?? I'm damn sure the options would have been calculated pretty fast in my head - and losing my license for the 4th time is not high on my priority list.

Interesting that people chose to insult/degrade and fall back on saying that "oh, yeah, I did that years ago but now i'm older and wiser and i know better so you're just a #%&*@". Well in 10 or 20 years time when we're older and wiser, we'll probably agree. But did you listen back in the days? I sure as hell didn't!!

The very long-winded point i had, I guess, is tolerance. Act like adults for god's sake!!!!
Have you ever considered that doing the runner and behaving like a pratt behind the wheel or on a bike shows a great lack of tolerance for the other road users that just want to get where they are going safely and without being menaced by some third and subsequent disqualified road criminal?

Why the hell should law abiding road users tolerate fuckwits doing the runner and endangering innocent lives and property? There is absolutely no reason to. The person doing the runner has usually commited an offence in order to want to run in the first place. This isn't always known to the cop, disqualified drivers, stolen vehicles etc, you often don't know until the person is stopped. Then when they do the runner they commit further offences, clearly demonstrating that they have a total disregard for the law and the safety of others.

The NZ public and the police should not show any tolearance at all for this outright nuisance behaviour. The people engaging in this practice should be banned from driving for life and forfeit whatever vehicles they possess to the state.

Act like adults? This thread aside, your own actions, described by yourself are far from "adult" behaviour. Even your daughter can see that!

I guess its a good thing you work in insurance and can jack up your own policies because normally a 3rd & subsequent disqualified driver would be paying in blood for insurance cover.

No, it wasn't me that gave you the bad rep point but after reading your most recent post in this thread I was promted to read your previous posts and I can understand why you received it.

[**R1**]

Man i have been out riding a lot so havnt wasted to much time on the PC,
i get the feeling there are mixed feelings on the subject??? :thud:

well seem to be some good points both ways i feel much calmer now after so many trips out on the bikes, so i'll say that for those that push the point of public safty i fully see your point ...i have a wife and 2 kids of my own and so help me god i would slit any mother fuckers neck that hurt them, but im not going to start hunting down and killing people just coz 1 day it MIGHT happn.
at the end of the day thats life. As(look a cap and full stop just for hitcher) for my actions i aint going to try 300kph dwn columbo street on a friday night to avoid a chat wif the coppers but givn the right time and place :2thumbsup Cya im gone, and hay as many of you in your deludedness(is that a word?) think perhaps one day some copper in a car will catch me :shake:(dont think so) but thats my opinion, as the first page of the site says "a site for all new zealand motorcyclists" and as most of you are so "mature" you will just accept it...or not for all the abuse and PM's in the world i aint going to change just coz some self rightious dick head on here said so, as for people that have info or similar experiances...bring it on. the abuse was ok to you can keep it coming :2thumbsup

[onearmedbandit]

Okay then, fuck you Aaron, yeah you heard me!


J/K bro, how was the ride up to Picton? We need to catch up, go out for a friggin ride.

[Ex Cop]

I have no doubt that you, R1, may be fully capable of eluding every Mario Andretti cop in this country and probably safely too?! I have had a few cream me, leaving me in their dust as well. In the old days when I rode a "high perfomance BMW R80 Patrol bike" :killingme I had a Bimota pull away that much that he turned around and came back toward me waving knowing full well I didnt have a shit show in Hell of catching him. We both had a good laugh I suspect.

The real problem arises tho when some jumped up know it all, bulletproof, rookie kid hears these stories and thinks, " I can do that, piece of piss" He neither has the common sense nor experiance to know when to back off and give it up. This is when we have disasters.

I have come across heaps more of this type of rider!

Obviously you realise the risks involved and are prepared to live with any outcome. Your choice.

I can also put one bullet in a 38 revolver, point it at my head and keep pulling the trigger, spin the mag, pull again, might not fire for a long time. Probably will sometime tho. :Oops:
Its just my opinion.

"Now lets be carefull out there" :ride:

[Fluffy Cat]

Well interesting seems we have some saints out there.It seems speed is bad and the govt/dept transport whatever has done a great job brainwashing us the public but what are the figures i.e fast sport bike deaths,where are the accidents occuring, what age groups,type of road,what did they hit etc?.Now it seems to me that speed is a factor but it is not the main factor in head on smashes which seem to be causing many of the fatalites in NZ.The point been that you can do 6000 kph on your side of the road and the other rider/driver can do the same on their side with no problem.But with both in the same lane traveling towards each other then there is a prob.The main prob is bad riding/driving then factor in some speed for extra damage.The funny thing is this the govt are pushing this speed thing pretty hard but have done nothing about the sale of vehicles that can break the speed limit ie suzuki jimmy 1.3l capable of 120kph etc etc.I am getting some crossed purposes here and then there are the police piggy in the middle having to follow a perverted policy.Sure you look kind of dumb when you follow the rest of the lemmings off the cliff....cause we are all saints all the time in all the ways.Lets rename this site Kiwi Saint Bikers.

[Roadrash]

he does say he's asking in the interest of public safety.
:kick:

[MSTRS]

I have come across heaps more of this type of rider!


And some of them in heaps?? :devil2:

[**R1**]

Okay then, fuck you Aaron, yeah you heard me!


J/K bro, how was the ride up to Picton? We need to catch up, go out for a friggin ride.
for sure bro....i need a new rear tyre tho i only got 1500k's out of the last one...but as you know there's always one more ride left in it :2thumbsup

the ride up2 picton was allgd took 2hrs 45mins and i didnt realy speed that much....well it didnt feel like it anyway, the ride back was pissing down but still sliping and sliding in the rain is all good fun that took dam near 3hrs tho.

[**R1**]

he does say he's asking in the interest of public safety.
:kick:
coz i care :buggerd:

[**R1**]

Well interesting seems we have some saints out there.It seems speed is bad and the govt/dept transport whatever has done a great job brainwashing us the public but what are the figures i.e fast sport bike deaths,where are the accidents occuring, what age groups,type of road,what did they hit etc?.Now it seems to me that speed is a factor but it is not the main factor in head on smashes which seem to be causing many of the fatalites in NZ.The point been that you can do 6000 kph on your side of the road and the other rider/driver can do the same on their side with no problem.But with both in the same lane traveling towards each other then there is a prob.The main prob is bad riding/driving then factor in some speed for extra damage.The funny thing is this the govt are pushing this speed thing pretty hard but have done nothing about the sale of vehicles that can break the speed limit ie suzuki jimmy 1.3l capable of 120kph etc etc.I am getting some crossed purposes here and then there are the police piggy in the middle having to follow a perverted policy.Sure you look kind of dumb when you follow the rest of the lemmings off the cliff....cause we are all saints all the time in all the ways.Lets rename this site Kiwi Saint Bikers.
you got it... they should split the site saints(old people, coppers, chicks) one side and sinners(good riders, not cops, and young people) the other, then when you sign up you can pick a side and there would be world peace......well a lot less winjing :2thumbsup

[**R1**]

I have no doubt that you, R1, may be fully capable of eluding every Mario Andretti cop in this country and probably safely too?! I have had a few cream me, leaving me in their dust as well. In the old days when I rode a "high perfomance BMW R80 Patrol bike" :killingme I had a Bimota pull away that much that he turned around and came back toward me waving knowing full well I didnt have a shit show in Hell of catching him. We both had a good laugh I suspect.

The real problem arises tho when some jumped up know it all, bulletproof, rookie kid hears these stories and thinks, " I can do that, piece of piss" He neither has the common sense nor experiance to know when to back off and give it up. This is when we have disasters.

I have come across heaps more of this type of rider!

Obviously you realise the risks involved and are prepared to live with any outcome. Your choice.

I can also put one bullet in a 38 revolver, point it at my head and keep pulling the trigger, spin the mag, pull again, might not fire for a long time. Probably will sometime tho. :Oops:
Its just my opinion.

"Now lets be carefull out there" :ride:

Thats the best reply yet... you have actualy opened my eyes....i never thought of the young impresionable(how the hell do ya spell that) that may think he can get away with it as well....so all you that think you can get away with it think very long and hard b4 ya try...well not to long or mr/miss plod could already have ya :crybaby:

[Krusti]

:whistle: That should keep this thread going for at least another year! Keeping the fems, cops, oldies out that is.

[**R1**]

:whistle: That should keep this thread going for at least another year! Keeping the fems, cops, oldies out that is.
yeah but i did say they could have their own section :buggerd: :killingme
and i did include good riders etc so i will apologise now to any chicks and oldies that are good riders your all good....there's an old dude that i go for early morning blasts with... M A N is he fast.

[James Deuce]

yeah but i did say they could have their own section :buggerd: :killingme
and i did include good riders etc so i will apologise now to any chicks and oldies that are good riders your all good....there's an old dude that i go for early morning blasts with... M A N is he fast.
Yeah and you're a perfect example of humanity yourself. We're all different.

The one thing everybody here, on both sides of the argument is missing is that not everyone on the road drives/rides with the same level of committment to improving their own vehicle control skills as some of the people on Kiwi Biker do.

Even then you factor in random acts of God and P, and you are not going to get away with it all the the time. Why run from a cop at warp factor 9, putting yourself at risk, and the "average" driver who just crossed the centre line around that blind corner just ahead YOU know you can take at 210 easily?

Is it because you and the others advocating doing a runner don't have the guts to face up to making a screw up and getting busted? You know: Personal responsibility. The mentality behind doing a runner is twisted at best, and not because "Saint" Jim says so. One rule for the bullet proof young uns and another for the battered oldies seems to be the point you're trying to make. Irrespective of the fact that most of the old bastards on here take a while to warm up in the morning because their battered hardware is frozen up again.

All we're trying to do is let you know that you can't get away with a "Fuck you I'm bulletproof" attitude forever. We know because we didn't. If you ignore us, don't expect a friendly pat on the head, and a "there, there, it'll be alright in the morning", because it won't be.

Most of the vehicles we ride and drive are capable of being driven safely at far greater speeds than they are. We don't take driving and riding seriously in NZ. It isn't taught in a serious fashion, and there's no obligation to increase you skills or knowledge as time goes by.

[James Deuce]

:whistle: That should keep this thread going for at least another year! Keeping the fems, cops, oldies out that is.

I hope it does - debate is healthy. Entrenched attitudes are what kill a great number of people in NZ on the roads every year.

Btw - I didn't know Kawasaki made a ZZR100. ;)