DB1k 2009

[cooneyr]

Seems there is a bit of interest in running the DB1k again. For those that don't know it was developed to be a 1000km route that is over 50% gravel that can be attempted in 24 or less hours.

Last year we had 8 complete the route in 1 day with the fastest group doing it in 17ish hours, another group taking 20ish hours and the last group taking 23 hours. There was also a group of about 6 or so that did the route in two days.

The only thing we need to organise this year is the date we run it. The 1 day guys need as much light as possible cause riding in the dark through dust is pretty hard work. This suggest that we need to run as close to the summer solstice (22 Dec 08) as possible. I reckon the 3rd and 4th of Jan would be a good weekend but want to know what others think. If you are keen please vote in the attached poll.

Other things to know

The 2 day guys camp somewhere around St Arnaud for the night. We are currently investigating camping at the same stations' shearing shed as last year. There is a good chance that camping gear will be able to be taken between Nelson and St Arnaud by vehicle so you dont have to carry it.
If there is enough interest tea on the first night could be provided for the 2 day guys for a fee.
If doing the ride in one day it is best to be in small groups of riders (2 or 3) that all ride at a similar pace and have a similar stamina level.
This is not an organised ride so there is no costs to do the ride. To get through the Rainbow Road there is a charge of $15 for a motorbike.
Again this is not an organised ride so you are on your own regarding punctures, breakdowns etc. Make sure you have everything you need to do the ride including good tyres, clean air filter, tools, puncture repair kit, food, water etc etc
For a very large proportion of the route there is no cell phone coverage so making sure others know where you are at all times is essential.
You need a fuel range of at least 250kms
Stickers will be offered to all who complete the ride for a small charge - about $5
Anybody and everybody who is capable of the ride is most welcome - this ride is not limited to KB members only


A Google earth file of the route, six 1:250,000 topomaps that show the whole route and twelve detailed (1:50,000) topomaps that show where more tricky bits of the route are. I've put up the roll chart up as well and GPS files as well. All of the files can be found on my website (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/) - DB page here (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/DB1k.html).

So for now please post if you and your mates are interested (let me know the numbers), if you want to do the 1 day or 2 day and also please use the poll to give me an idea of when would be a good date for you to do the ride.

If you want to have a read about the 2008 run check out this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64527&highlight=dusty+butt). Zukin wrote a really cool article - you may have already read it in Kiwirider.

Cheers R

Edit 1 - Link to page with DB info added

Edit 2 - Ride Date
Seems it might be time to put a line in the sand and set the date of the ride.

The 1 Day DB1k will be on the 3rd of January 2009.

The 2 Day DB will be on the 3rd and 4th of January 2009.

It is very likely there will be a Waitangi weekend ride following the same or a similar course but I'll leave that for others to put together.

Edit 3 - Calendar

Please add your name to the calendar if you are planning on doing the DB1k.
One day run calendar here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1714&day=2009-1-3) - run on the 3rd Jan 09.
Two day run calender here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1715&day=2009-1-3) - run on the 3rd/4th Jan 09.

Edit 4 - 2 Day Accommodation

Will be in the Nelson Rowing Club Lodge at Lake Rotoroa. Padmei has kindly organised access to the lodge. Cost will be $10 per person for the night. There is a good chance that vehicle will be traveling between NN and Lake Rotoroa that will be able to carry food, beers, camping gear etc.

Edit 4 - Pre Ride Event (dinner)
There will be a BBQ tea at Warewolfs place on the eve of the DB1k i.e. 2nd Jan. It is BYO meat and drinks and gold coin koha for salads which will be provided. Start will be around 5.30pm. Basic workshop facilities will be available. If you dont know where Warewolf lives send him or myself a PM. This is the only time that all the DB1k riders will be able to meet so I suggest that you all come along. Also I'll hold a short briefing re current route info, expected weather etc etc.

WW has put up an event on the Calendar here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&ea=attend&e=1787)

Edit 5 - Rainbow Cost Increase
The cost to go through the Rainbow has increased to $15 from $10 of last year.

Edit 6 - Sunday Brunch
On Sunday the 4th, between 1100 and 1200, the one dayers (and really keen two dayers) will be meeting at Lambretta's Cafe Bar‎ (located here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Lambrettas,+Nelson&sll=-41.270775,173.284006&sspn=0.045093,0.06875&ie=UTF8&ll=-41.274226,173.2845&spn=0.011273,0.017188&z=16&iwloc=A)) for brunch.

Edit 7 - Roll Chart and GPS files now up.
Check out the DB1k page here (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/DB1k.html)

Edit 8 - Ride participation stickers.
As for the previous two years stickers will be available. They will be selling for $5 a pop, first in first served. Any profit will be given to KB (hopefully there will be some). They are for participation not a completion hence they will be available at the Pre DB1k BBQ on the 2nd. See this post (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1838534&postcount=280) for a preview.

[JATZ]

Any times good for us. Mrs jatz would like to do it this time so we'll do the 2 day option.

[offrd]

Not sure if would do the one day for the challenge or the two day for the sights.... but keen as !

Any north island "teams"?????


:scooter:

[NordieBoy]

I'd do the 2-dayer first up and the next year do it as a challenge.

I'm going to be taking lots of photos and find that side more fun than the 24 hour challenge bit at the moment.

[Peril]

Keen as Ryan :D I'd be in the 2 day event.

[XF650]

I would like to do the 2-dayer again.
Hey Nordie - is 'Smurf' coming?

[Padmei]

I'm in for the 2 dayer. I think a nite of socialising (doing repairs) would be good.

I may be able to get hold of a "lodge" bunkhouse thing with heaps of camping space & itchen etc. close to st Arnaud for the night - I will make tentative enquiries & get back.

[Padmei]

Hey Jatz I see the Tenere has taken first position on your bike list - does Mrs Jatz know this...:msn-wink:

[Balrog]

3 & 4th Jan sounds good to me.
People will need to get on to the accommodation pretty quick in Nelson around that time.

:stoogie:

[JATZ]

Hey Jatz I see the Tenere has taken first position on your bike list - does Mrs Jatz know this...:msn-wink:

I'm good with that.

It's the only time it will get to go in front of mine

[nigelp]

I am keen for later Jan - busy around new years.

[topo]

I'm in for the one day mission:stupid:, what time in the morning did you guy's leave last year? seems like the earlier the better.

[fridayflash]

shit sounds good! i was gonna head down to invercargil to the burt munro
but this sounds better... id better buy another road legal traillie, either that
or i put a set of trailwings on the tank750 or gn250 hehe

[NordieBoy]

I'm in for the one day mission:stupid:, what time in the morning did you guy's leave last year? seems like the earlier the better.

5:30 or so for the 1 dayers.

The first year we went over the Maungatapu in complete dark and fog :D

[GurlRacer]

I'll come down to help if you need, and any date is good for me :D

Good on ya dude!! :D

[cooneyr]

I'm in for the one day mission:stupid:, what time in the morning did you guy's leave last year? seems like the earlier the better.

Like Nordie said 5.30 am. We finished at around 1.30am. We got to the end of the St Arnaud end of the Howard Valley on the way north when it went dark at about 10 from memory . As I mentioned above riding in the dark with dust from the guys in front is hard work. It is like riding in very thick fog!


I'll come down to help if you need, and any date is good for me :D

Good on ya dude!! :D

You're most welcome come come and join in. Whether you are riding or not there will likely be a couple vehicles going up to St Arnaud with gear for the two day riders that you could catch a ride in.

Cheers R

[warewolf]

I'm not making commitments that far ahead yet; will know more in 6-8 weeks.

If it is the same route as last year, I will probably do the 2-day option, maybe as sweep.

[zeRax]

me and my trusty little black beast will be there :D

[Padmei]

I'm not making commitments that far ahead yet; will know more in 6-8 weeks.

If it is the same route as last year, I will probably do the 2-day option, maybe as sweep.


Thank god there will be some one to pick me up:laugh:

[cooneyr]

I'm not making commitments that far ahead yet; will know more in 6-8 weeks.

If it is the same route as last year, I will probably do the 2-day option, maybe as sweep.

Yep same route as last year. I'm doing the two day ride as well.

There may be a couple of last minute changes for the two day riders - short legs of the side of the main route. I'll have to check them out just before the ride as they are near some active logging sites. The one day riders wont appreciate them at 11pm in the dark and they will make the route longer.

Cheers R

[warewolf]

There may be a couple of last minute changes for the two day riders - short legs of the side of the main route. I was thinking of doing a little exploring down side-tracks, too :clap:

[cooneyr]

I was thinking of doing a little exploring down side-tracks, too :clap:

Keen to hear what you find :niceone:

Cheers R

[mazz1972]

Cheers for your info cooney (& everyone else)

I have emailed my lot up here to find out their preferences and will post when I know - or get them to join KB and post themselves!. There could be up to six of them, and so far they seem to be opting for the 2-day ride.

M

:ride:

[MXNUT]

Any north island "teams"?????

I would be a starter for the 2 day ride :Oi: :Playnice:

[PLUG]

1 dayer for me :shit:

[Balrog]

1 dayer for me :shit:

Excellent :)

[cooneyr]

1 dayer for me :shit:

3rd time lucky? Here's hoping :cool:

Cheers R

[marks]

Any north island "teams"?????:scooter:

I known to be easily (mis)led...

[Underground]

Is there a prize for the oldest bike / rider combo to finish the one dayer ?? if not I'll do the ...nah I'll do the one day anyway, what the hell !!

[OV Lander]

Commited for the January dates, but how about Waitangi Weekend?

[timg]

Waitangi Weekend is better suited for me too :yes:

[Adux]

Quite keen to have a crack at this db malarky, probably the 2 dayer, but too early to commit to dates yet, have family coming from the old country on 02 Jan, so not ideal timing.

[CrazyFrog]

I'll be a starter for either one or two dayer, depending on dates. Early Jan could have issues with traffic volumes on Molesworth/Rainbow due holiday period, could slow things down a bit for the one dayers. Also, the Molesworth road often closes in Jan due fire risk....do we have an alternative route option if this happens?

[arrowrider]

Depending on dates with work i'd be keen to drag myself up for the 2 day trip .:scooter:

[JATZ]

Depending on dates with work i'd be keen to drag myself up for the 2 day trip .:scooter:

I figure we'd only need to fill up once for the the trip, plus maybe a little sip just to make sure :woohoo:
Be nice to see another BIG do this one

[Peril]

Is there a prize for the oldest bike / rider combo to finish the one dayer ?? if not I'll do the ...nah I'll do the one day anyway, what the hell !!

Hmm how close would I get with an 86 Tenere and a 30 yr old rider? Don't think I'm fit enough to tackle the 1 day as of yet anyways :D

[Padmei]

Quite keen to have a crack at this db malarky, probably the 2 dayer, but too early to commit to dates yet, have family coming from the old country on 02 Jan, so not ideal timing.

Funny I'd ave thought it'd be perfect timing :devil2:

[Underground]

Hmm how close would I get with an 86 Tenere and a 30 yr old rider? Don't think I'm fit enough to tackle the 1 day as of yet anyways :D

Miles off young fella !! Be good to see some old bikes doing it though

[mazz1972]

I've got four guys so far saying yes they are starters for the 2-dayer, preferring later in Jan or sometime in Feb. Still checking with the other two guys.

How are people placed for the long weekends?

Wellington Anniversary (lower half of north isl) Sat 20th-Mon 22nd Jan
Waitangi weekend Fri 6th-Sun 8th Feb

Looks like there might be quite a bunch of you on the 2-dayer

[Peril]

Miles off young fella !! Be good to see some old bikes doing it though
I thought as much :)

Back to the topic of dates,I voted 2/3 Jan,but I'm easy on anything that's decided.

[cooneyr]

Wow fair bit of interest in the DB this year - I make it about 25 2 day riders and 5 or so 1 day riders so far. Given the current numbers for the 2 day run there may have to be a couple of accommodation options. There are a couple of the Nelsonians that are looking into options for us - I'll get back to you when I know more.

The date is most important for the 1 day guys in that they need as much light as possible. At the moment there is a 50% preference for a run on the 3/4th Jan so we have a clear winner for the preferred date so far. There has been talk of a Waitangi weekend running. As there is always a risk that the Molesworth will close early and as things dry out as summer progresses leaving the run till later increases the chance that the Molesworth will not be open.

CrazyFrog asked about a Plan B if the Molesworth doesn't open. Firstly the Molesworth opens on the 28th December if the conditions are right. It is more likely for it to open then and close early than the other way around. In saying this if it doesn't open there is a Plan B route, however, it unfortunately involves a heap of seal and running the Rainbow both ways.

With respect to other vehicles in the Molesworth - they weren't a real problem for the last couple of runs. Last year we came across one group of vehicles heading south just north of the Molesworth homestead and another group of vehicles heading north about 1/2 way though the Molesworth. With a bit of courtesy from bikes and vehicles they are pretty quickly passed.


Is there a prize for the oldest bike / rider combo to finish the one dayer ?? if not I'll do the ...nah I'll do the one day anyway, what the hell !!

No prizes to give out yet. If somebody wants to donate a couple feel free :D

If Jatz and Arrowrider bring a couple of DR750's, Peril and Mrs Jatz a couple of XT600Z's, myself and ma bro a couple of XTZ750's, Warewolf and Crazyfrog a couple of KTM 640 A's all we need is a couple of KTM 950/990's (Jezza might join us on his 950 S), and a second XRV650/750's (will you be on the XRV650 underground?). A photo of all these bikes lined up would be pretty cool!!!! Sorry all those others on "boring" non dakar bikes :bleh:

Cheers R

[warewolf]

What he said.

We only got held up by one convoy last year, or more accurately one vehicle in the convoy. For ten-fifteen minutes you question whether you are being impatient, then you get the subsequent vehicles ease over and wave you past at their earliest opportunity...

Long, long range prediction for spring & summer from metservice is average rainfall and marginally higher than average temperatures for most areas. That suggests a "normal" season for Molesworth.

Nelson anniversary will be Mon 2nd Feb? and Waitangi Day Fri 6th Feb... short week that!

[Crisis management]

I might be a starter for the 2 day, it sounds all a bit too good to miss.

[cooneyr]

.....Wellington Anniversary (lower half of north isl) Sat 20th-Mon 22nd Jan...


.....Nelson anniversary will be Mon 2nd Feb?.....

Regional holidays are not much good to those that are not from the region. There is enough geographic spread of people that there isn't much point in worrying about them.

Cheers R

[Underground]

If Jatz and Arrowrider bring a couple of DR750's, Peril and Mrs Jatz a couple of XT600Z's, myself and ma bro a couple of XTZ750's, Warewolf and Crazyfrog a couple of KTM 640 A's all we need is a couple of KTM 950/990's (Jezza might join us on his 950 S), and a second XRV650/750's (will you be on the XRV650 underground?). A photo of all these bikes lined up would be pretty cool!!!! Sorry all those others on "boring" non dakar bikes :bleh:

Cheers R[/QUOTE]

Yeah the @ will be up for it , Just gota find some new rings for it so I dont spend all day stopping to top up the oil

[Transalper]

I'd vote for Waitangi Weekend, maybe ride up on Thursday. Do 2 dayer starting Waitangi day and finish Saturday so i can get back on Sunday and go to work again Monday.

[pampa]

I could be up for the two day as well but can commit yet :no: ... early Jan sounds good to me

I apologise but I'll be bringing a white bike to the party :chase:

Cheers

[CrazyFrog]

I apologise but I'll be bringing a white bike to the party :chase:

Cheers

It won't be white for long......:laugh:

[JATZ]

Early Jan's prolly better for us.
Rode through Molesworth 2 times and Rainbow 3 times last summer and traffic was never an issue, most people pulled over fairly quickly to let us through.

[Balrog]

It won't be white for long......:laugh:

You'll retire a few bugs as well :)

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[Skinny_Birdman]

I'd vote for Waitangi Weekend, maybe ride up on Thursday. Do 2 dayer starting Waitangi day and finish Saturday so i can get back on Sunday and go to work again Monday.

I'm with TA on this one. I'm probably heading north with D for the new year holiday, so either late Jan or Waitangi would work better for me. As of last night I don't have a Blackbird anymore, so I also have to find a new bike at some point, although the Tranny is still probably the weapon of choice for the DB......

[mazz1972]

I've got one more so that makes five guys from up here for the 2-dayer.

We've got our club events kicking in then so from our point of view, preferred weekends would be:

10/11 Jan
17/18 Jan
31 Jan/1 Feb
7/8 Feb (Waitangi w/e)
21/22 Feb or after

At a push we may be able to juggle our club events but the calendar is getting tight!

At least three of the "better halves" will also come along, and do our own road trip, and meet up with the lads at the overnight stop, if that's ok.

M :woohoo:

[cooneyr]

Seems there is few who are keen on doing the ride on Waitangi weekend and a few more who are keen for later in January. I'm not that interested in organising a second 2 day run but given the availability of the maps, GPS route data and roll chart there is no reason why you guys couldn't do it yourselves. If the accommodation used for the 3/4th Jan is available for Waitangi weekend I'll look into arrangements.

What say you Waitangi Wranglers???

There is more than enough interest and commitment to have the 1 day on the 3rd (and they need the light), and the "main" 2 day ride on the same weekend - this is not changing now.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

I'd be up for both 2-dayers :D

Be able to do little "excursions" like the pylon track up the Porika etc :D

[cooneyr]

I'd be up for both 2-dayers :D

Be able to do little "excursions" like the pylon track up the Porika etc :D

Spent a couple of hours looking for "excursions" on the maps/GE the other day. I've got a few to check out between now and Xmas :D

Cheers R

[Alpha Solo]

I'd be keen to do some research rides, now my knee has healed and work is quietening down a bit - keep me in the loop.

P.

[mazz1972]

Waitangi weekend sounds like the go.

To you other Waitangi wrangers - what would be the preference for days?

Fri/Sat or Sat/Sun?

Doesn't make much difference either way for us since coming from the north isl anyway.

But would like to get on to ferry & accommodation bookings soonish.

[Transalper]

I'd vote for Waitangi Weekend, maybe ride up on Thursday.
Do 2 dayer starting Waitangi day (friday) and finish Saturday so i can get back home on Sunday and go to work again Monday.This is my preference. I doubt It'll happen any other way for me...

Hey Skinny BM, I'll be in the NI over NY too.

[NordieBoy]

Spent a couple of hours looking for "excursions" on the maps/GE the other day. I've got a few to check out between now and Xmas :D

Cheers R

Any you need checking just post up on the Nelson Rideout thread and someone will get onto it :D

May have to share around the GPS'sss though :rockon:

[cooneyr]

Any you need checking just post up on the Nelson Rideout thread and someone will get onto it :D

Where is my fun in that! When I get my sus sorted I'm into it :D I'll let you fullas know when I plan on being in the area.

Cheers R

[JATZ]

Early Jan for us, however I'd probly do it again @ waitangi and could probly talk mrs jatz into carting gear to where ever in the truck

[topo]

Thinking i might do the one-day'r in early jan:Punk:, and bring the co-pilot on the two-day'r at waitangi weekend:argue:

[warewolf]

Be able to do little "excursions" like the pylon track up the Porika etc :DAnyone explored the side road off the summit yet?

Another "must do" is the firebreak beside Jacobs Ladder... and no wimping out just because it looks like it is all horrible slick clay :crazy:

[NordieBoy]

Anyone explored the side road off the summit yet?

Yep - That's the pylon track.
On the 1st DB I did it on my lonesome looking for Christian and someone else who had missed a turn near the bottom. There were some wickedly deep wheel ruts at the start and then it opened up to stuff I'd love to try again.


Another "must do" is the firebreak beside Jacobs Ladder... and no wimping out just because it looks like it is all horrible slick clay :crazy:

It doesn't just look like horrible slick clay, it IS horrible slick clay :D

[Underground]

Just a thought , why not change the route to end the one day at St Arnaud ,gives the two day'rs something to wait up for , and gives the one day'rs a cruisy ride the next day ?

[cooneyr]

Just a thought , why not change the route to end the one day at St Arnaud ,gives the two day'rs something to wait up for , and gives the one day'rs a cruisy ride the next day ?

Good idea but do you recon you will be fit to ride the next day after waiting till early morning of the 4th while continuously lubricating yourself :apint:

In really there is a much bigger issue - staring in St Arnaud means either going through the Rainbow "gate" at 6.30ish (bit early) or at about midnight (bit to late). The timing of run through the Rainbow and Molesworth is somewhat limited.

Also the run has been designed so that if it all turns to crap it is easy to bail to NN from anywhere around Much north for the 1 dayers. The riders should be back to Murch on the way north before it gets too dark. The last 250kms are all within about an hours ride in a direct line from NN. It is the last 250kms in the dark that are the hardest of the ride - obviously.

The DB1k is first and foremost a one day run so I'm not keen on the idea of mucking the one day riders around. The only other way I can see this working is if the two day riders go back to NN for the evening and get up to meet the other riders coming back in. How many of the two day riders would actually get up between around 0000 and 0300?

It is a bit of a bugger that it is hard for the two groups to meet up when the one day riders finish, but I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to reasonably and safely arrange it. Feel free to make other suggestions.

Cheers R

[Underground]

Thats all good cooney , sounds like you've thought through all that fairly thouroughly. In which case I'm with topo , get the one day'r out of the way then weve got plenty of time to practice up on the drinking for the Waitangi 2day'r

[topo]

:niceone::clap::2thumbsup:drinkup::drinkup: i'm practicing right now:yes:

[jezzaNZ]

Well since I will be in the SI about that time, 3&4th Jan I guess it would be rude not to turn up. Think the 1 day is looking the more likely option for me at this stage. Had a dream the other night....my 450 road reg'ed with a Safari tank and a couple of new sprockets.....hummmmmm sounds very tempting....could give the 17 hour record a nudge.....Jez

[cooneyr]

Well since I will be in the SI about that time, 3&4th Jan I guess it would be rude not to turn up. Think the 1 day is looking the more likely option for me at this stage. Had a dream the other night....my 450 road reg'ed with a Safari tank and a couple of new sprockets.....hummmmmm sounds very tempting....could give the 17 hour record a nudge.....Jez

On ya - the 1 day ride needs to be done at least once. You'd have to be pretty keen to beat the 17 hour record - not that I should be encouraging this sort of thing :oi-grr: We had 4 x 20/25min stops in 20 hours though we could have gone a little faster. The dust in the dark slows you down big time as well. Consistency is the key though not bursts of flat out and slow.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Seems it might be time to put a line in the sand and set the date of the ride.

The 1 Day DB1k will be on the 3rd of January 2009.

The 2 Day DB will be on the 3rd and 4th of January 2009.

It is very likely there will be a Waitangi weekend ride following the same or a similar course but I'll leave that for others to put together.

Cheers R

[warewolf]

We had 4 x 20/25min stops in 20 hours though we could have gone a little faster.Actually we stopped for an hour ~9:40-10:40pm at the end of the Howard Valley Rd, just on dark. Late dinner-ish snack, clean the visors, set up the torches to read the route sheet, etc, etc and put on the warm gear. We weren't in a hurry at all.

[cooneyr]

Actually we stopped for an hour ~9:40-10:40pm at the end of the Howard Valley Rd, just on dark. Late dinner-ish snack, clean the visors, set up the torches to read the route sheet, etc, etc and put on the warm gear. We weren't in a hurry at all.

Damn was it that long :wacko: Felt like 20 mins with all the mucking around re torches etc.

Cheers R

[mattsdakar]

Well since I will be in the SI about that time, 3&4th Jan I guess it would be rude not to turn up. Think the 1 day is looking the more likely option for me at this stage. Had a dream the other night....my 450 road reg'ed with a Safari tank and a couple of new sprockets.....hummmmmm sounds very tempting....could give the 17 hour record a nudge.....Jez

Being one of the the two 17hour riders I wouldn't recommend trying to match our time. We had perfect conditions and very short stops. I wont mention our average speed in this forum given the speed limits in the Molesworth but needless to say we were pushing the limits. It wasn't for the faint hearted and if I do it again, won't be doing such high speeds on the shingle again.

It is a fun event not a race and I would hate to see anyone hurt trying to match or beat a certain time

Rgds Matt

[zeRax]

bloody mad fish you are :P, im pretty bloody positive ill be doing 1dayer again, , id probably like to leave earlier than last time though.

[Balrog]

bloody mad fish you are :P, im pretty bloody positive ill be doing 1dayer again, , id probably like to leave earlier than last time though.

Agreed,
I think you want to aim to get out of the Porika the second time around while still having some
daylight left.

[Balrog]

Oh and I'm pretty sure I'll be doing the 1 day as well.
Its pretty close to the Hamner Springs Safari on 10-12 Jan, just trying to
work out travel plans at the moment.

[cooneyr]

Being one of the the two 17hour riders I wouldn't recommend trying to match our time. We had perfect conditions and very short stops. I wont mention our average speed in this forum given the speed limits in the Molesworth but needless to say we were pushing the limits. It wasn't for the faint hearted and if I do it again, won't be doing such high speeds on the shingle again.

It is a fun event not a race and I would hate to see anyone hurt trying to match or beat a certain time

Rgds Matt

Thanks for the comments Matt. Hopefully they put it in perspective for those with ideas of trying to do it in under about 19 hours.


Oh and I'm pretty sure I'll be doing the 1 day as well.....


.....im pretty bloody positive ill be doing 1dayer again,.....

Damn you fullers - the temptation is growing. I even have an excuse - a new bike.

Cheers R

[Padmei]

I'm doing the 2 day. For me riding for 2 days over excellent roads & trails beats feeling tired & uncomfortable for 24 hrs. I could see the concentration effort being quite high too.

[zeRax]

the concentration effort is bloody obscene, it really is constant heavy concentration, cause you always know uve got a long way to go. and you always know u want to get to the end.

really big trust in ones concentration, corners in dusty dark extreme tired conditions at a decent pace, argh , the idea is just a bit weird :P

[cooneyr]

......I could see the concentration effort being quite high too.


the concentration effort is bloody obscene...

Apparently I was talking mostly gibberish when wifey met me at the end of the 08 run. Transalper was very close to the end of his tether in Wakefield so we cruised back into NN. Warewolf seemed OK to me but I wasn't in a state to judge. The mental load the 1 day run is very significant.

Cheers R

[javahead]

Put me down for the 1-day too. It sounds pretty tough but worth doing once.

[Balrog]

Apparently I was talking mostly gibberish when wifey met me at the end of the 08 run. ..

Cheers R

lol, Ditto
When we got back to the lodging, Scotty and I were just sitting at the table staring into space.
MagicFairy cooked us up a nice feed, which we didn't think we wanted.
Until the 1st mouthful, then we couldn't eat it fast enough.

Not surprising considering the only food we'd had was a constant supply of
"One Square Meals" and water. Plus a few garage pies and Red Bulls

( all the major food groups )

[Balrog]

Just finished booking ferry tickets and accommodation :)


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[JATZ]

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^^Now thats classy:clap::clap: ^^

[cooneyr]

We have accommodation sorted for the night of the 3rd of Jan for the two day riders. Padmei through his associations with the Nelson Rowing Club has managed to get access to their lodge at Lake Rotoroa. Three rooms that sleep 6 and camping space if necessary. The cost will be $10 per person for the night. There is a good chance that vehicle will be travelling between NN and Lake Rotoroa that will be able to carry food, beers, camping gear etc.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Please add your name to the calendar if you are planning on doing the DB1k.

One day run calendar here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1714&day=2009-1-3) - run on the 3rd Jan 09.

Two day run calender here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1715&day=2009-1-3) - run on the 3rd/4th Jan 09.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Two day run calender here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1715&day=2009-1-3) - run on the 3rd/4th Jan 09.

Better change the wording on the calander item then :D

[warewolf]

Damn you fullers - the temptation is growing. I even have an excuse - a new bike. Actually that is a common theme amongst the keenest Grand Challenge chaps... "Hmm wonder what it'll be like on this bike?"

[warewolf]

Damn was it that long :wacko: Felt like 20 mins with all the mucking around re torches etc.I also felt we stopped too long in the Molesworth a couple of times. It would be easy for us to trim 90mins from our time without it becoming much more rushed or tiring. And the benefit is you wouldn't be up so late at night.

[warewolf]

Apparently I was talking mostly gibberish when wifey met me at the end of the 08 run.And this is different from normal, how? :bleh: :laugh:

Actually I'm surprised you could form words at all through that great big grin! :D


PS love the ticker, jimbo!

[cooneyr]

I also felt we stopped too long in the Molesworth a couple of times. It would be easy for us to trim 90mins from our time without it becoming much more rushed or tiring. And the benefit is you wouldn't be up so late at night.

Agreed. We could have cut a couple of number of stops and shortened a couple of others.


And this is different from normal, how? :bleh: :laugh:

Yer yer - if you know what I mean then thats all that matters. I just passed 5th and 6th form English and that was enough. Much prefer numbers or physics.


Actually I'm surprised you could form words at all through that great big grin! :D....

Yep the smile was embarrassingly large.

[Tony W]

Well since I will be in the SI about that time, 3&4th Jan I guess it would be rude not to turn up. Think the 1 day is looking the more likely option for me at this stage. Had a dream the other night....my 450 road reg'ed with a Safari tank and a couple of new sprockets.....hummmmmm sounds very tempting....could give the 17 hour record a nudge.....Jez

Mate, it's NOT a RACE!!!

GO HARD !!! you can do it.!!!

[jezzaNZ]

Cheers Tony, think I have been spending too much time following the Aussie Safari on the net. Looking fwd to your HB ride on the 1st & 2nd of Nov. Will we both be riding 950's ?:banana: Jez

[Transalper]

I also felt we stopped too long in the Molesworth a couple of times. It would be easy for us to trim 90mins from our time without it becoming much more rushed or tiring. And the benefit is you wouldn't be up so late at night.
You should have maybe said something then? I like the idea of not being up so late at night.
It's all a bit of a blur, definitely think our Blenheim and Howard Valley stops were excessive.
Didn't someone say we were ahead of schedule at Blenheim and we could afford to back off and conserve energy a little?
If I go 1 day again I would indeed want to get a few more sections done before sunset in the hope that I'd be finished at a more reasonable time of night.
I'll have the same old bike but just about to get a new helmet myself, and right now with the hype building feel tempted to go one day again (only to see how it would be in the new helmet of course).

Technically, having ridden the route a few times now, familiarity should help it be a little better for me this time.
Maybe I will if I get back from my North Island trip again in time (but that's just crazy talk really).
Still keen for 2day Waitangi weekend.

Also I'd stop at the Shell? on the left when we get in to Blenheim next time instead of the Mobil on the right.
Cheers
TA.

[warewolf]

You should have maybe said something then? I like the idea of not being up so late at night.Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At the time, didn't know how it would pan out. Got a much better idea now. :niceone: Just thoughts for fine tuning, really.

And it isn't a race, finishing was more important to us than finishing as fast as we possibly could, eh?

[Transalper]

Yep. must remember that all the roads and tracks have two way traffic so I wouldn't want to ride any faster, but I wonder if fine tuning stops to get in a little earlier would leave me fresher or more burned out. I tend to think fresher as I personally fade more quickly later in the evenings whether I been working hard earlier or not.
To ride faster would tire me out more and be riskier than shortening stops.

Bugger, the more I think about it the more I can see myself having another one day go at it. Maybe I should just stick my name on the calender.

[Balrog]

Resistance is futile, you know you want to.

The question is, who will crack first?
Transalper, cooneyr or warewolf

:Pokey:



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[jezzaNZ]

Busa 4 sale? Jim, you've seen the light and it's orange?

[Balrog]

Busa 4 sale? Jim, you've seen the light and it's orange?

:laugh:
The lights are more likely to be blue and red when the Busa's involved. :Police:

[mazz1972]

Bugger, the more I think about it the more I can see myself having another one day go at it.

TA it sounds like you are twisting your own arm!

So apart from my group of lads, is there anyone else wanting to do the 2-dayer over Waitangi weekend?

[Transalper]

......So apart from my group of lads, is there anyone else wanting to do the 2-dayer over Waitangi weekend?
Yep, still up for that. Want to do it as two dayer sometime and then (Waitangi Day Friday and saturday, ride back home on Sunday for work Monday) suits fine.

[nigelp]

I am also keen to do the Waitangi Day 2-dayer event!

[cooneyr]

Was thinking last night that we should have a pre ride event for everybody to meet (seeing as we don't get to meet afterward) and to have a bit of a briefing. Last year we had a BYO BBQ at one of the NN locals house but this may not be suitable this year. I'm looking for suggestions be they a BYO BBQ at somebody's place around NN, got to a pub somewhere, ...... Feel free to PM me if you have any ideas but want to ask questions first.

Oh and remember for all you out of towners that the Nelson Port Races are on the 2nd Jan. Good entertainment for the day but don't be getting sun burnt and dehydrated the day before the DB1k!

Cheers R

[warewolf]

resistance is futile, you know you want to.

The question is, who will crack first?
Transalper, cooneyr or warewolf:lol: :D :D :D

[buggsubique]

bloody mad fish you are :P, im pretty bloody positive ill be doing 1dayer again, , id probably like to leave earlier than last time though.

Mate, if I'm not holidaying with the tribe then I'd be up for an earlier start also. Gotta convice the wife that this is a good idea first...

Go the trailies!:wacko:

[JATZ]

Yip I'd be keen to do the waitangi weekend aswell

[NordieBoy]

Oh and remember for all you out of towners that the Nelson Port Races are on the 2nd Jan.

And ther'll be KiwiBikers racing that need a cheering section :2thumbsup

[NordieBoy]

The bugger with Waitangi weekend is Old Thumpers in Pohara is on at the same time along with a classic/twinshock trials event.

[GS650X]

I be ok for 3 January 2009

[Padmei]

I be ok for 3 January 2009


Welcome to the site GS650x

by the way are you a pirate? - cos I be one too oo-argh :lol:

[cooneyr]

I be ok for 3 January 2009

Welcome to the site W. Have a read through the thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64527&highlight=dusty+butt) started by the late Zukin about last years run and this thread for bits of useful info.

See you in Nelson on the 2nd/3rd.

Cheers R

[Peril]

Slightly off topic,but can anyone recommend a camping ground at that time of year that isn't full of young dickheads.So far we've looked at Brook Valley Holiday Park,which looks nice.Other than that,I have no idea :D

[JATZ]

Slightly off topic,but can anyone recommend a camping ground at that time of year that isn't full of young dickheads.So far we've looked at Brook Valley Holiday Park,which looks nice.Other than that,I have no idea :D

How long will you be in Nelson ? Tasman district allows freedom camping if you don't mind slumming it a bit, plenty of scope there, might even come up with something else between now and then

[Peril]

How long will you be in Nelson ? Tasman district allows freedom camping if you don't mind slumming it a bit, plenty of scope there
If I was by myself it wouldn't be too much of a worry,but since I'll be bringing my wife and 2 year old.. I think we need something with amenities :)

[JATZ]

might even come up with something else between now and then

...............

[cooneyr]

Slightly off topic,but can anyone recommend a camping ground at that time of year that isn't full of young dickheads.So far we've looked at Brook Valley Holiday Park,which looks nice.Other than that,I have no idea :D

The locals might be able to correct if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that most of the drop kick toy racers go up to the Maitai Camp now (burn outs outside the camp at 5.30 on the way through during the dusty anyone :innocent:). I believe that Tahunani is now relatively dickhead free. Not sure about the Brook sorry.

Cheers R

[richyrich]

i would be keen for a 2 dayer for a start so as to rubberneck if thats ok:beer:

[cooneyr]

i would be keen for a 2 dayer for a start so as to rubberneck if thats ok:beer:

The more the merrier - stick your name on the 2 day calender (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1715&day=2009-1-3).

Welcome to the site by the way.

Cheers R

[Transalper]

Resistance is futile, you know you want to.

The question is, who will crack first?
Transalper, cooneyr or warewolf
...
CrracK. :blink:
Looks like my holidays will be in the South Island now so no problem being at the right place and time.
I've added my name to the list.
Waitangi weekend is still a go for 2day for me too.

[cooneyr]

Snap - Bugger it I'll put my name down for the 1 day as well. I've been thinking it for a while - just waiting to see what El Scooto was going to do.

Going to be a pretty reasonable number doing the one dayer this year. Currently there is 11 KBers plus El (get of your arse and put your name on the list) and I know of two other non-KBers that are keen and there may be a couple more. Might have to be staggered starts between groups else the dust in the dark will be a pain in the arse for the last groups away.

Still looking for ideas for a gathering on the evening of the 2nd? Anybody know of any parks with BBQ's that we could use?

Cheers R

[warewolf]

CrracK. :blink::clap:

silly 10 char rule

[NordieBoy]

Still looking for ideas for a gathering on the evening of the 2nd? Anybody know of any parks with BBQ's that we could use?

Rabbit Island?

[cooneyr]

Hear ye hear ye, there will be a BBQ tea at Warewolfs place on the eve of the DB1k i.e. 2nd Jan. It is BYO meat and drinks and gold coin koha for salads which will be provided. Start will be around 5.30pm. Basic workshop facilities will be available. If you dont know where Warewolf lives send him or myself a PM.

This is the only time that all the DB1k riders will be able to meet so I suggest that you all come along. Also I'll hold a short briefing re current route info, expected weather etc etc.

Cheers R

[mazz1972]

Waitangi weekend is still a go for 2day for me too.

TA - still Waitangi weekend for my lot too, at least 5 lads have given it the big tick, maybe a couple more.

[Balrog]

CrracK. :blink:
Looks like my holidays will be in the South Island now so no problem being at the right place and time.
I've added my name to the list.
Waitangi weekend is still a go for 2day for me too.

:niceone:


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[cooneyr]

Went to NN to collect a vehicle for Bro/Sis-in-law this weekend and we decided to go back over Maruia Saddle on the way back south. Turns out the road was "Closed" but we decided to give it a nudge anyway (long way back down the Matakitaki to Murch and around the highway). It was easy to get through but there has obviously been a heap of wind and rain through the area. Lots of trees down (all large logs cleared now) and a few slips. There are a few branches and lots of twigs/leaves on the track over the saddle and there are quite a few muddy sections (5-10m long) where the slip clay has not been completely cleared. Also found one culvert that the top has broken leaving a nice big hole (straddled it in the vehicles but would nicely swallow a bike tyre). Will be easy to get through on a bike but wont be as fast as last year - more track than gravel road.

Anybody been over the Porika or Breaburn tracks recently. I suspect they are not much better?

Pic of road closed sign with brown beast that we collected from NN (yes I know too many wheels but last time I checked I couldn't get four adults and an infant on a bike. A Ural patrol on the other hand... :Punk:)

Cheers R

[426crasher]

Count me in for the 2 day job. Managaed too change a few new year things around so i can now go. Not sure my arse can cope with 1000k in a day on the WR seat plus the lights are not real good at err... lighting things up in the dark. I'll stick my name on the list.
Cheers Tony.

[cooneyr]

Count me in for the 2 day job. Managaed too change a few new year things around so i can now go. Not sure my arse can cope with 1000k in a day on the WR seat plus the lights are not real good at err... lighting things up in the dark. I'll stick my name on the list.
Cheers Tony.

On ya fulla - look forward to catching up in NN. Not sure that I've be very keen on doing the DB1k on the WR seat either. Tis bloody hard and narrow.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Not sure that I've be very keen on doing the DB1k on the WR seat either. Tis bloody hard and narrow.
Exactly the rep the DR seat gets too...

[cooneyr]

Exactly the rep the DR seat gets too...

I've been for a blat on said WR. If the DR guys think the DR seat is a hard and narrow seat they'd think the WR doesn't have a seat. Not even remotely in the same league - probably be more comfortable sitting on the frame rails of the DR. You'd learn how to ride standing up 80% of the time very fast on a WR (well this one anyway).

Cheers R

[426crasher]

On ya fulla - look forward to catching up in NN. Not sure that I've be very keen on doing the DB1k on the WR seat either. Tis bloody hard and narrow.

Cheers R

Your not kidding it's ard n narrow. Although there might be a faint chance of me adding to the 2 wheel stable with something a little more suitable,before the off.

Cheers Tony.

[GS650X]

Hi all I see Cooneyr was through Maruia saddle I shot up from Dunedin to see a mate in Nelson on Sat 29th Sep found the saddle as stated the Porika and Breaburn were ok not the same number of slips. We will need to keep a look out 3-4 Jan as there will be a few 4x4 on these rd, they hurt when you hit them head on A.

[cooneyr]

Hi all I see Cooneyr was through Maruia saddle I shot up from Dunedin to see a mate in Nelson on Sat 29th Sep found the saddle as stated the Porika and Breaburn were ok not the same number of slips. We will need to keep a look out 3-4 Jan as there will be a few 4x4 on these rd, they hurt when you hit them head on A.

Thanks for the heads up about the Porika and Breaburn. There will potentially be 4x4 or other vehicles on all parts of the DB1k route. The route is entirely all on publicly accessible roads/tracks so all will need to ride as though there is a vehicle around every blind corner.

Cheers R

[Balrog]

.. so all will need to ride as though there is a vehicle around every blind corner...


I had a big fright on the Maruia saddle, with an oncoming 4x4.

Lucky it was tight and twisty so the speed was down, we both just stopped ( one lane anyway ).
But getting tired, and everything being so deserted, very easy to do.

So best to ride 2nd or 3rd :laugh:

[bishxt]

Hi I've just added to the calendar for the one dayer, in fact it's for me and Grant who's not a KB'er. Never been to Nelson, or quite a few places on the route!, so I'd be grateful for some hints about a good place to stay for the nights of the 2nd & 3rd of Jan.

Cheers Bish

[NordieBoy]

1 double bed, 1 single bed a couple of rollup mattresses and a fully(ish) equipped gargre available here about 1km from the DB start and 1.5km from the Port Nelson Street Races on the Friday.

[JATZ]

1 double bed, 1 single bed a couple of rollup mattresses and a fully(ish) equipped gargre available here about 1km from the DB start and 1.5km from the Port Nelson Street Races on the Friday.


Ooo, Ooo, Pick us, Pick us. :wavey:

Been thinkin we should stay in Nelson the night before :sleep:, Saves leavin home at about 4:30.

BTW do we get a cooked breakie (runny eggs and crispy bacon):Punk:

[NordieBoy]

Ooo, Ooo, Pick us, Pick us. :wavey:

Been thinkin we should stay in Nelson the night before :sleep:, Saves leavin home at about 4:30.

BTW do we get a cooked breakie (runny eggs and crispy bacon):Punk:

You need to get over, drop yer crap off here, off to the Port Races for the day and then off to the Warewolf's Den for the BBQ dinner on Friday evening.

Bacon and eggs?
You supply 'em, I'll cook 'em.

[Padmei]

You supply 'em, I'll cook 'em.

Um Jatz I'd suggest you go to Maccas for brekkie....

Port races yeh baby!!

[bishxt]

Thanks anyway but, the accomodation's now sorted. The BBQ and races sound good - we'll have to haul up there early and catch them.
Cheers Bish :Punk:

[Padmei]

I may have an empty house depending on if the family stay down in Chch. Will let yous guys know closer to event.

Only cold weetbix for brekkie tho...

[Padmei]

how many signed up now?

[cooneyr]

how many signed up now?

One day entries here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1714&day=2009-1-3) and two day entries here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1715&day=2009-1-3). If you are interested in the ride and haven't already please put your name on the calendar. I have heard from some non KBers from Chch so there is approx another 3 or 4 to add to the one dayer list. El Scooto ya lazy bugger stick you name on the one day list :2guns: Current totals based on what I know is around 17/18 one day riders and 8 two day riders.

The start is going to be interesting this year - either have to stagger the start times for each group or people will have to be very conscientious of others behind them wanting to pass. Also had a few one day riders talking of wanting to start around 5am as the ride over the Mangatapu is in the semi dark anyway and light isnt needed on the seal from Pelorus to North Bank road but this means less time in the dark at the end of the ride when your are tired. Guess we can discuss this more at the BBQ.

As mentioned in the very first post it is best for the one day riders to form into small groups of riders (2 or 3) that all ride at a similar pace and have a similar stamina level. Big groups of riders tend to take to long to regroup, pass gates etc especially when spread out due to dust - is is the Dusty Butt after all.

Hopefully catch a few of you at the port races.

Cheers R

[Alpha Solo]

You need to get over, drop yer crap off here, off to the Port Races for the day and then off to the Warewolf's Den for the BBQ dinner on Friday evening.

Bacon and eggs?
You supply 'em, I'll cook 'em.

Sounds good - always wanted to see the port races, can you put me down for the single bed?

I can bring the eggs / beer and cheer etc.

_ I'd also be up for a 5am start if there is a list being formed.

Cheers,

p.

[Waihou Thumper]

Hi all.
Yep, I am keen as mustard.
If I get the time off work, I will be there with bells on.
Can just rough it out there and sleep rough, eat rough and ride rough...lol
Are there route maps or do we tag along with the leader or follow someone that has done it before?
Newbie here, in fact it will be the first time in the South with a motorbike this time....
Mark

[cooneyr]

Gidday Mark.

On my web site (http://www.advroutes.org.nz) I have a page about the DB1k (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/DB1k.html). On it there is a google map with the route overlaid and some topomaps. Eventually I'll put the updated roll chart and some GPS file up there as well (take your pick as to what works for you).

Plan is to use the Nelson Rowing Club Lodge at Lake Rotoroa ($10 pp) for the over night stop on the two day ride. Obviously if your a nutter your will be doing the 1 day ride which ideally doesn't have any sleeping stops - try and be home (back to NN) in less than 24 hours.

I'm sure you will have a ball with a bike around the upper part of the South Island.

Cheers R

P.S. All the info you need is in the first post of this thread. I have tried to keep that updated with anything of significance to the ride.

[Waihou Thumper]

Great! Thanks very much.
The idea of the adventure part appeals, and yes, I am a nutter as when I ride I ride till the tank empties out....lol

[NordieBoy]

Shane says that if the Surf is still working then he's up for the 2-day chase.
He can carry extra fuel/oil/tyres/food/tubes etc to lighten the load on the more sedate/new adventurers doing the 2-day.

[Peril]

Am I correct in thinking us 2 days are staying indoors overnight?
Just need to know wether I need to suss out a small tent type thing.

[NordieBoy]

Am I correct in thinking us 2 days are staying indoors overnight?
Just need to know wether I need to suss out a small tent type thing.

Yep. Indoors.

Padmei. Are there cooking faculty, fakul, stuff things there?

[warewolf]

He can carry extra fuel/oil/tyres/food/tubes etc Mmmm, beer!!!

[Padmei]

Yep the "lodge" consists of 3 buildings. The First is the Kitchen with 2 ovens (mmm nachos mmmm) & fridges as well as a large open plan lounge with old couches and hinged tables for eating. Will check re plates & forks etc.

The second is the bunk house which has 4 rooms (I think) with 6 bunks per room & boys & girls showers & toilets.

The third building you guys don't need to know about because that's where I'm sleeping Mahahahaha.

The buildings are old but perfect for the adv type crew. Also there is ample room to pitch a tent if you want to do the wild thing all night & not be watched.

The only thing which may not need to be said but I will say it anyway is that it is on DOC land & we're able to use the place as long as we respect it. ie no bonfires, burnouts & associated hoonism.
This doesn't mean we can't spend the evening having heated debates over oil choice or tyre mileage- by god now I'm getting excited...:argue:

[NordieBoy]

This doesn't mean we can't spend the evening having heated debates over oil choice or tyre mileage- by god now I'm getting excited...:argue:

Damn.
I may need to leave the Golden Boy on then...

[warewolf]

This doesn't mean we can't spend the evening having heated debates over oil choiceOilve or peanut?

:jerry:

[NordieBoy]

Oilve or peanut?

:jerry:

Grape seed!

[XF650]

Shane says that if the Surf is still working then he's up for the 2-day chase.
He can carry extra fuel/oil/tyres/food/tubes etc to lighten the load on the more sedate/new adventurers doing the 2-day.

........and to help pick up our bikes. Smurf provides an awesome service.

[NordieBoy]

Damn. Just been thinking...
If Mt Patriarch was included in the DB then you could leave out the long section down to Springs Junction/Palmer Road.

But it would probably mean getting in far too late to the overnight stop.

[cooneyr]

Damn. Just been thinking...
If Mt Patriarch was included in the DB then you could leave out the long section down to Springs Junction/Palmer Road.

But it would probably mean getting in far too late to the overnight stop.

Hmm - down to Mt Pat and back would give us about 76km. This would mean we wouldn't need to any further go south than about 1/2 way along the Maruia West Bank Road i.e. we would still run down to Springs. I don't see any real advantage in this and it would put the one day riders going over the Porika, Breaburn etc later i.e. darker. I'd rather try and pick up some KM's after the Porika on the way back north as a means of loosing the springs south bit but the forestry natzies made this difficult last time I tried.

I appreciate that Mt Pat will give some good views but those from Altimarlock will be better :D

Cheers R

[warewolf]

Yebbut Palmer Rd was the funnest! :2thumbsup

[cooneyr]

Yebbut Palmer Rd was the funnest! :2thumbsup

If you have good sus and don't get caught out by the hidden ford/s. Oh I suppose the nice hard smooth gravel surface and winding road was pretty cool too. :niceone:

Cheers R

[Balrog]

Yebbut Palmer Rd was the funnest! :2thumbsup

Great bit of road :2thumbsup
I'm never sure how far to go down it though.
Last time we went all the way to the farm houses / Milk yard looking thingy.

Not sure if that's to far or not far enough.

[warewolf]

Last time we went all the way to the farm houses / Milk yard looking thingy.

Not sure if that's to far or not far enough.Perfect!

Silly 10 char rule

[cooneyr]

Great bit of road :2thumbsup
I'm never sure how far to go down it though.
Last time we went all the way to the farm houses / Milk yard looking thingy.

Not sure if that's to far or not far enough.

Which ones? The first ones (where the the bridge is) is way to short. You should end up actually in the farm yard about 100m after going through a creek. The roll chart should be correct.

In theory there is a paper road carrying on from there to the upper Grey River (fishermen use it) but this is along a stock race and the farmer asked we didn't use it unless we had too.

Cheers R

[Balrog]

Which ones? The first ones (where the the bridge is) is way to short. You should end up actually in the farm yard about 100m after going through a creek...
Cheers R

Yeah I think thats the one, its the place in the 1st two pics of this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1376116&postcount=327) post.

I thought we might have gone a bit too far.
I felt like I was on someone elses property. :confused:

Jim

[cooneyr]

Yeah I think thats the one, its the place in the 1st two pics of this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1376116&postcount=327) post.

I thought we might have gone a bit too far.
I felt like I was on someone elses property. :confused:

Jim

Yep that's the end of the road that we use. We asked the farmer about access cause of the private property sign up the road a bit. Seems it is there to keep out "unwanteds" but it not actually legal.

Cheers R

[pampa]

Hi all, I've added my name to the 2 dayer which I'm planning to attend :msn-wink:.

May I ask someone to give me some advice in regards accommodation?

Cheers,
Pampa

[NordieBoy]

Hi all, I've added my name to the 2 dayer which I'm planning to attend :msn-wink:.

May I ask someone to give me some advice in regards accommodation?

Cheers,
Pampa

Accommodation in Nelson?

[pampa]

Accommodation in Nelson?
:doh:Yeap and wherever we stay after the first day of riding.

Cheers,
Pampa

[cooneyr]

:doh:Yeap and wherever we stay after the first day of riding.

Cheers,
Pampa

Stop after the first day of riding for the two day riders is at the Nelson Rowing Club lodge. Check out the first post for details.

Cheers R

[Peril]

Hi all, I've added my name to the 2 dayer which I'm planning to attend :msn-wink:.

May I ask someone to give me some advice in regards accommodation?

Cheers,
Pampa

Just to give you an idea,we're staying at Tahuna Beach holiday park.
Tent site is $15 per person per night,24 hour security,security gate at entrance and sounds like they've kicked all the young dickheads out nowdays and made it more of a family place.

[_Shrek_]

hi guys looking at doing this one, as i've not been following this thread could some tell me what date its on & are we riding in our own groups?

cheers K

[Transalper]

....as i've not been following this thread could some tell me what date its on & are we riding in our own groups?

cheers KForget following the thread, have you read post #1? :2guns: you know, the one post that is regularly updated with the most current details on it.

[pampa]

Stop after the first day of riding for the two day riders is at the Nelson Rowing Club lodge. Check out the first post for details.

Cheers R

Hi, sorry didn't check first post. One thing I'm unclear (I'm kinda slow :blink:) regarding the stop @ Nelson RC on the first night, do I need to book it or is it done by putting my name trhough?


Just to give you an idea,we're staying at Tahuna Beach holiday park.
Tent site is $15 per person per night,24 hour security,security gate at entrance and sounds like they've kicked all the young dickheads out nowdays and made it more of a family place.

Hi Peril, thanks for the advice I'll look into that one seems reasonable.

Cheers,
Pampa

[cooneyr]

Yep the "lodge" consists of 3 buildings. The First is the Kitchen with 2 ovens (mmm nachos mmmm) & fridges as well as a large open plan lounge with old couches and hinged tables for eating. Will check re plates & forks etc.

The second is the bunk house which has 4 rooms (I think) with 6 bunks per room & boys & girls showers & toilets.

The third building you guys don't need to know about because that's where I'm sleeping Mahahahaha.

The buildings are old but perfect for the adv type crew. Also there is ample room to pitch a tent if you want to do the wild thing all night & not be watched......


Hi, sorry didn't check first post. One thing I'm unclear (I'm kinda slow :blink:) regarding the stop @ Nelson RC on the first night, do I need to book it or is it done by putting my name trhough?....

You raise a good point Pampa re number of spaces for the two day riders at Lake Rotoroa. I take it from Padmei's post that there is 4 rooms with 6 bunk i.e. a total of 24 beds. This would indicated that there is plenty of beds. I'm not sure how much space there is for gear though so even if every person has two beds, one to sleep in and one to store gear there is still enough beds for the 9 that are currently on the two day list.

I would estimate, and maybe Padmei can help, that there would be space/beds for around 15/18 riders with the remainder of the beds used for gear. I will keep an eye on the list and when the number reaches 15 (if Padmei agrees with this number) the late comers will have to think about tents etc.

Cheers R

[pampa]

You raise a good point Pampa re number of spaces for the two day riders at Lake Rotoroa. I take it from Padmei's post that there is 4 rooms with 6 bunk i.e. a total of 24 beds. This would indicated that there is plenty of beds. I'm not sure how much space there is for gear though so even if every person has two beds, one to sleep in and one to store gear there is still enough beds for the 9 that are currently on the two day list.

I would estimate, and maybe Padmei can help, that there would be space/beds for around 15/18 riders with the remainder of the beds used for gear. I will keep an eye on the list and when the number reaches 15 (if Padmei agrees with this number) the late comers will have to think about tents etc.

Cheers R

Great thanks for the detailed post.

In other order of things, fuel u said 250+ ... how much more over two fifty to be safe :devil2:

Cheers,
Pampa

[cooneyr]

Great thanks for the detailed post.

In other order of things, fuel u said 250+ ... how much more over two fifty to be safe :devil2:

Cheers,
Pampa

It depends on how consistent your fuel consumption is. There is one large hill climb and a few smaller hills. The distance is almost exactly 250km from fuel stop to fuel stop. Having a range of 300kms would be very nice to have but around 280km should suffice (I take no responsibility if you run out though :D)

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

hi R
you will need to up date the 1st thread as they are now charging $15 per bike, I'm going through this coming week

cheers K

[cooneyr]

Thanks for that K. I'll update the first post. I guess that diesel is more expensive for their annual "maintenance".

Cheers R

[JATZ]

Great thanks for the detailed post.

In other order of things, fuel u said 250+ ... how much more over two fifty to be safe :devil2:

Cheers,
Pampa

Mate, I can suck some out of my tank for you if you run out :msn-wink: 'course the freight charge will probly cripple ya :bleh:


hi R
you will need to up date the 1st thread as they are now charging $15 per bike, I'm going through this coming week

cheers K

Might see ya at the rally then Shrek. Will mrs Shrek be doing the dusty and are you doin the 1 or 2 day ?

[TuckerBag]

Hi all,
I am looking seriously at doing the 2-dayer. Am a bit of a newby to adv riding.
I have a fairly gutless XT400 (jap import that I got for $1630) that I am currently doing pipe and jets on to try and get it going a bit better.
I live near Tauranga so need to look at booking the ferry pretty soon.
Just waiting to see if I can get some decent grunt out of my XT before commiting.
Won't be keen to do it if bike can't accelerate reasonably hard up to 100km/h.
Hope to have pipe and jetting all sussed out by Monday 3rd Nov.
Will post again after Monday.

Later, Tuck.

[NordieBoy]

Won't be keen to do it if bike can't accelerate reasonably hard up to 100km/h.

I kept the road sections down to a nice cruisy 85-95kph last time. Much easier on the body.

[Padmei]

As long as the old packhorse is running you'll be right. I'm not set on breaking any records - the longer on the road the less flesh lost to the sandflies :rolleyes:

[warewolf]

Just waiting to see if I can get some decent grunt out of my XT before commiting.
Won't be keen to do it if bike can't accelerate reasonably hard up to 100km/h.Hmmm, it's never going to have the sort of grunt your other three bikes have. I gather you are not new to dirt riding with those 2Ts in your stable.

If it is healthy, a 400-4T single should be ample, even in std trim. It should be at least as strong as my '01 DR-Z250, and I'd have no hesitation taking it on a DB. Does it have any JDM restrictors or something?

[JATZ]

One small question tuckerbag......

How do you see your gauges with that enourmous tank bag ?

[426crasher]

Hi all,
Won't be keen to do it if bike can't accelerate reasonably hard up to 100km/h.


Your XT will handle the DB just fine as it is. My WR is crap on the seal, 90km/h road speed, so you wont be lagging behind. I'm more likely to be behind you on the road.
Give it a go!!

Cheers Tony.

[Padmei]

One small question tuckerbag......

How do you see your gauges with that enourmous tank bag ?


Careful I reckon he could carry a body in that bag:msn-wink:

[Transalper]

Just make sure the bikes you use have more than enough life left in their Chains, Sprockets, Brake pads and Tyres, with cleanish air filters etc enough to get you there, + the 1000km ride and home again.

[TuckerBag]

Amazingly, the tank bag doesn't actually get in the way,... well not much anyway. I was quite surprised myself.
I tend to agree with the theme of recent posts,.. basically, power is not anywhere near as important as reliability on the DB1k.
Will be altering a stock DR-Z400 pipe to fit it tomorrow..., Cant help myself. :-) Got it off TradeMe for $50 plus $30 freight.
And yes, I will be taking a good look at tyres,chain,sprockets,pads etc. Good words of wisdom there Transalper.

[marks]

My WR is crap on the seal, 90km/h road speed, so you wont be lagging behind. I'm more likely to be behind you on the road.
Give it a go!!

Cheers Tony.

If you are going to ride a WR 1000km over 2 days with a stock seat you will need a new one of these :shake:

[426crasher]

If you are going to ride a WR 1000km over 2 days with a stock seat you will need a new one of these :shake:

CHCH to Nelson, DB1K, then back to CHCH i recon the very least i will need is a new :shake: LOL. Currently trolling through tardme for a replacement arse.

Cheers Tony.

[Balrog]

... Currently trolling through tardme for a replacement arse...


... or you could just upgrade the padding on the existing arse.
Pass the beer and chocolate honey, I'm training :drinkup: :corn:

[Aslan]

OK I've made the ferry bookings - God willing I'm in for the two day event. Looking forward to meeting up with you all - cheers Aslan :niceone:

[NordieBoy]

Pass the beer and chocolate honey, I'm training :drinkup: :corn:

Mmmmmm.... Chocolate honey....

[Padmei]

Mmmmmm.... Chocolate honey....

Smeared on an arse???:(

[TuckerBag]

Mods to XT400
OK, well I've fitted the DRZ400 pipe. It was not too tricky and looks quite standard. I raised the needles on both carbs 2 notches to richen it up a tad, just 'cause. (note: 2 carbs on a single piston) Drilled some holes in the airbox inlet. Filled it up with 98 octane petrol.

End result: Seems quite a lot better. Definitely much stronger through the Bottom and Midrange. Top end only marginally better, but better.

I am actually quite happy with the bike now. All for about $2000. :-)
Took it on a 250km ride today all loaded up just to check it out. No probs.
All thats left to do is to bite the bullet and book the ferry and commit to the DB1k. Hope to do that very soon. Just need to make absolutely sure that I will have that time free.

[Ally67]

Smeared on an arse???:(


Mmmmmm.... Chocolate honey....

i,m now very worried about you two.:blink:

[NordieBoy]

i,m now very worried about you two.:blink:

He started it!

He only rides a green bike so the grass stains don't show up :devil2:

[NordieBoy]

Mods to XT400
OK, well I've fitted the DRZ400 pipe. It was not too tricky and looks quite standard. I raised the needles on both carbs 2 notches to richen it up a tad, just 'cause. (note: 2 carbs on a single piston) Drilled some holes in the airbox inlet. Filled it up with 98 octane petrol.

End result: Seems quite a lot better. Definitely much stronger through the Bottom and Midrange. Top end only marginally better, but better.

Next tank try 91 octane.
My Nordie and DR both have a stronger bottom and mid range with 91.

[JATZ]

wot e said /\ /\

I know my dr runs much better on 91

[Underground]

Oh... I thought I just used 91 because I was a cheapskate , now I see there is a 'reason' for it :confused:

[NordieBoy]

My VT250 hated it but my singles love it.

[Racing Dave]

Just a bit of info. My mate enquired last week about when the Rainbow Road will open, and there's a wee problem. It seems that currently it's closed by "massive" slips, but it is hoped to have them cleared by Christmas, so it can open when Molesworth does. If so, shouldn't be an issue for the DB1K, but no doubt there'll be updates as the date gets nearer.

[Underground]

We're going through Rainbow this week so will update on the condition when we get back

[buggsubique]

wot e said /\ /\

I know my dr runs much better on 91

Hmmm, maybe I should try the Z on it? Even though the manual says min 95? I normally run it on that high octane stuff from BP (98?)

Sorry, should start a new thread, but anyways...

[cooneyr]

Just a bit of info. My mate enquired last week about when the Rainbow Road will open, and there's a wee problem. It seems that currently it's closed by "massive" slips, but it is hoped to have them cleared by Christmas, so it can open when Molesworth does. If so, shouldn't be an issue for the DB1K, but no doubt there'll be updates as the date gets nearer.

I rang about a key yesterday and have been told the slip it near Hells gate (the southern most locked gate area) but the road is open. We are heading through in a couple of weekends time so will also be able to report back. Thanks for the heads up RD but I really don't think this is going to be an issue.

I have been told however that the road is definitely not a fast road at the moment due to the slip and other issues. I assume from this that it is pretty rough over the slip. Sounds like fun:D

Cheers R

[Transalper]

How about we don't repeat last years "you might not be able to get through" posts and everyone rest assured that you will be briefed on what you can and can't do at the BBQ on Friday arvo at warewolfs. If plan B is needed to be implemented it will be done then.
Last year there was all kinds of concern about the Molesworth but we had a plan B and after all the fuss didn't need it.

[Racing Dave]

Good news if it's open already, but my mate's info seemed to think otherwise. An actual report from a KBer will help. As an aside, the petrol station that's actually in Hanmer Springs (opposite the Heritage) isn't a petrol station any more, there's no pumps now. The Caltex just out of town on the way back to SH7 is open 7:30am to 6:00pm 7 days.

[Transalper]

Yep, same as the last two DB1K runs and the route sheet takes you straight to the Caltex just on the edge of town anyway.
Good on ya 4 trying to be helpful I suppose.

[Woodman]

Next tank try 91 octane.
My Nordie and DR both have a stronger bottom and mid range with 91.

yea just done that experiment with my klr, and it definitely runs better at all rev ranges on 91, and will lug out of a wrong gear choice now. Only issue is now I cannot get over 400ks from a tank.

[Racing Dave]

Hi Transalper. Yes, I was only trying to help, I don't often buy petrol in the Hanmer Village, preferring to avoid the tourists, and I didn't know it had closed some time ago. I'm keen for the DB1K to run smoothly, as I expect to be part of the 2009 ride, but I don't want to be counted in the numbers just yet as I'm still sorting out my plan. Cheers.

[NordieBoy]

We'll do a proper roadbook in French 'specially for you.
And a 32 page addendum Sat morning :devil2:

[Padmei]

Only issue is now I cannot get over 400ks from a tank.

Every one else can - they just use Jatz' tank

[Cross Rider]

How bigs your tank? Mine goes on reserve at 400k and then I have about 30 or so k left.

[Woodman]

How bigs your tank? Mine goes on reserve at 400k and then I have about 30 or so k left.

Tank is normal KLR size and no dents etc to take up space. Thing is I used to be able to get 400 ks before hitting reserve too but that was when I was mainly road riding, and have just recently realised that the klr handles way better on gravel with a lot of revs so that may have skewed my experiment a bit. Off topic for this thread I know

[cooneyr]

Spoke with a person tonight that went through the rainbow about two weeks ago. The slip near hells gate has not had a track cut across it yet and it is loose scree. Apparently not to hard to ride though, as there was a motard in the group that managed OK as well. Dozer was onsite ready to work too by the sounds of it. It also sounds like the southern end is badly potholed again.

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Had a suggestion that we should have brunch on the sunday for the one dayers (and keen two dayers) similar to what we did after the 2008 run. Plan is therefore to meet on Sunday the 4th, between 1100 and 1200, at at Lambretta's Cafe Bar‎ (located here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Lambrettas,+Nelson&sll=-41.270775,173.284006&sspn=0.045093,0.06875&ie=UTF8&ll=-41.274226,173.2845&spn=0.011273,0.017188&z=16&iwloc=A)).

First post has been updated with details as well.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Just fixed the computer of a couple who earlier in the year came across a guy on the Dry Weather Road who'd dropped his sump bung :yes:

[Transalper]

Just been having another read of Nordies report with pics from the last 2-dayer (http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/reports/db1k2k8/Ride%20Report.html).
Very nice nordie.:niceone:

[Cross Rider]

Tank is normal KLR size and no dents etc to take up space. Thing is I used to be able to get 400 ks before hitting reserve too but that was when I was mainly road riding, and have just recently realised that the klr handles way better on gravel with a lot of revs so that may have skewed my experiment a bit. Off topic for this thread I know

Guess it's back to carrying a small top up tank with you. I've never done 400k on just dirt, it's always been a mixture of both tarmac/dirt/tarmac. You going to do the DB run next year?

[NordieBoy]

Just been having another read of Nordies report with pics from the last 2-dayer (http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/reports/db1k2k8/Ride%20Report.html).
Very nice nordie.:niceone:

Just re-read it myself.

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[helenoftroy]

Spoke with a person tonight that went through the rainbow about two weeks ago. The slip near hells gate has not had a track cut across it yet and it is loose scree. Apparently not to hard to ride though, as there was a motard in the group that managed OK as well. Dozer was onsite ready to work too by the sounds of it. It also sounds like the southern end is badly potholed again.

Cheers R
Oh Ryan your such a gentleman!:hug:basically if this old girl,a Husky motard on road tyres,and Shrek on the GS1150 can conquer the slip well !!.....you lot can:lol:

Just been having another read of Nordies report with pics from the last 2-dayer (http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/reports/db1k2k8/Ride%20Report.html).
Very nice nordie.:niceone:
Good for me to look at......looks awesome......asking myself...."can i do it?":devil2:

[JATZ]

Oh Ryan your such a gentleman!:hug:basically if this old girl,a Husky motard on road tyres,and Shrek on the GS1150 can conquer the slip well !!.....you lot can:lol:

Good for me to look at......looks awesome......asking myself...."can i do it?":devil2:


Course you can :Punk: and Mrs Jatz needs the company

[Aslan]

great report Nordie Boy and great YouTube video - looking forward to meeting all you 'two dayers' - cheers Aslan :Playnice:

[Aslan]

Oh Ryan your such a gentleman!:hug:basically if this old girl,a Husky motard on road tyres,and Shrek on the GS1150 can conquer the slip well !!.....you lot can:lol:

Good for me to look at......looks awesome......asking myself...."can i do it?":devil2:

me to Helen of Troy - 'feel the fear and do it eh?' - reckon at 61 I may be the oldest old fart planning on taking part - cheers :beer:

[helenoftroy]

Course you can :Punk: and Mrs Jatz needs the company
:msn-wink:....think Mrs Jatz and I would get on well:hug:

me to Helen of Troy - 'feel the fear and do it eh?' - reckon at 61 I may be the oldest old fart planning on taking part - cheers :beer:
Lifes for living- absolutely:2thumbsup....Hope to be there....you've got 10yrs on me lol
Transalper had better set me a training plan:scooter::scooter::scooter:

[Woodman]

Guess it's back to carrying a small top up tank with you. I've never done 400k on just dirt, it's always been a mixture of both tarmac/dirt/tarmac. You going to do the DB run next year?

Its still a great range really, and compared to my previous bike (xl600 at 180 kms per tank) it is heaven. I wouldn't mind havin a go at the db1k and it would be a good chance to do the rainbow as I haven't done it yet.

[Underground]

Just been for a bit of a 3 day 2up jaunt around the district, Rainbow is sweet , the potholes are awesome but theres some machinery up there so I guess thats the end of them for now, still costs $25 per vehicle for a key till its opened (worth it tho). Palmers road is smooth enough to skateboard on ,and some bugger was grading the braeburn today.
And by the way Big river is real interesting two up ,needed a beer after that one

[cooneyr]

...Lifes for living- absolutely:2thumbsup....Hope to be there....you've got 10yrs on me lol
Transalper had better set me a training plan:scooter::scooter::scooter:

Your right, life is for living. Im sure TA and I can come up with a bit of a plan for some training but I recon you will be able to do the Manga and Porika. The rest of it is similar to the Rainbow or better.


Just been for a bit of a 3 day 2up jaunt around the district, Rainbow is sweet , the potholes are awesome but theres some machinery up there so I guess thats the end of them for now, still costs $25 per vehicle for a key till its opened (worth it tho). Palmers road is smooth enough to skateboard on ,and some bugger was grading the braeburn today.
And by the way Big river is real interesting two up ,needed a beer after that one

Thanks for the info. One point though, from talking to the Rainbow managers I understood that the key cost $15 for bikes?

Cheers R

[Underground]

Mabe you're right ,he just told me $25 per vehicle ,I might have got two wheels for the price of four ?

[helenoftroy]

Your right, life is for living. Im sure TA and I can come up with a bit of a plan for some training but I recon you will be able to do the Manga and Porika. The rest of it is similar to the Rainbow or better.
Thanks for the info. One point though, from talking to the Rainbow managers I understood that the key cost $15 for bikes?
Cheers R
Another adventure!!:woohoo:

Mabe you're right ,he just told me $25 per vehicle ,I might have got two wheels for the price of four ?
Yeah $15 for two wheels:laugh:

[Padmei]

It's getting closer & I'm getting excited.

[Balrog]

This much closer :eek5:


http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/4;10722;417/st/20090103/e/Dusty+Butt+2009/dt/18/k/df40/event.png
(http://www.TickerFactory.com/)

[Padmei]

te hee hee



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[topo]

New rear tyre ordered, bar risers made, "rallye" stlye fairing under construction (cos i want too:bleh:). only thing left is a route-sheet holder, does anyone know where to pick one up from?

ONLY 1020hrs(ish) to go:clap:

[NordieBoy]

only thing left is a route-sheet holder, does anyone know where to pick one up from?

Pics of my build here...
Payless Plastics... (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=964330&postcount=78)

In fact I'm not going to use it for the Dusty...

[Padmei]

New rear tyre ordered, bar risers made, "rallye" stlye fairing under construction (cos i want too:bleh:). only thing left is a route-sheet holder, does anyone know where to pick one up from?

ONLY 1020hrs(ish) to go:clap:

How are you making your ralye style fairing? I'm about to attempt a larger screen on Gonzo!

About how many hours would it be for the first day riding? - not racing or nanaing it but riding without any holdups - just so I get an idea. Also is a route map roller thing essential?

[JATZ]

How are you making your ralye style fairing? I'm about to attempt a larger screen on Gonzo!

About how many hours would it be for the first day riding? - not racing or nanaing it but riding without any holdups - just so I get an idea. Also is a route map roller thing essential?

From memory we left Nsn about 5:30 am and rode into St Arnaud about 6:00 pm.
I didn't have a route map holder thinga mi jig, and didn't get lost


New rear tyre ordered, bar risers made, "rallye" stlye fairing under construction (cos i want too:bleh:). only thing left is a route-sheet holder, does anyone know where to pick one up from?

ONLY 1020hrs(ish) to go:clap:

You could get y'self one of them new fangled GPS things:niceone:

[Padmei]

Jeez thats a long day:sweatdrop

[topo]

Just finished the prototype, will test it tomorrow to make sure it works:niceone:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/topo-t-south/IMG_3132.jpg

The final setup will be mounted just infront of the light mounts which will leave enough room for either a route sheet holder or GPS.

[cooneyr]

Speaking of roll charts and GPS thingames I've just updated the DB1k page (http://www.advroutes.org.nz/DB1k.html) such that there is a link to the latest roll chart and two GPS files. Can people download files/upload files to GPSr from the page and let me know if there are any problems. I think everything is OK but ya never know.

I'm especially interested in the GPS route files and making sure they work with various GPSr's out there.

Cheers R

[topo]

I'v just had a quick search of DB threads with no luck, so can anyone tell me if there are any specific rules in the DB1k09 ie. can you start at anytime on the 3rd (i'm keen to start at 3am'ish) and do you need photos to show that you made the full loop?

[NordieBoy]

Jeez thats a long day:sweatdrop

This time some bugger booked the rowing club thingy for the night so we're going over the Porika as well so it'll be even later :D

We have nice long stops though.

It's a good long cruise.

[NordieBoy]

I'v just had a quick search of DB threads with no luck, so can anyone tell me if there are any specific rules in the DB1k09 ie. can you start at anytime on the 3rd (i'm keen to start at 3am'ish) and do you need photos to show that you made the full loop?

The first rule of the Dusty is you don't talk about the Dusty...
Hang-on... Something wrong there...

Start whenever you're comfortable.
Take a photo of your speedo showing start mileage...
Close gates behind you... Be kind to children... Leave the sheep alone... That sort of thing.
1000km later...

[NordieBoy]

Also is a route map roller thing essential?

Not on the 2-day.

[cooneyr]

I'v just had a quick search of DB threads with no luck, so can anyone tell me if there are any specific rules in the DB1k09 ie. can you start at anytime on the 3rd (i'm keen to start at 3am'ish) and do you need photos to show that you made the full loop?

There are no rules. This ride is entirely for yourself edification i.e. can you handle the jandal. As such there are no rules re photos etc etc. You might like to take a photo of your bikes dash at the beginning with a watch with the time and date visible just as evidence to post on here at the later date for bragging rights etc.

Re starting time it is pretty much up to you but I would respectfully request that you think about your safety and group up with at least one other. It would ruin others (those not in your group) day if they had to give up on their ride to extract your from the molesworth or rainbow etc. I obviously cant force you to do this but I will add that I have been extracted from the Rainbow via chopper and it took 3 hours just to get the chopper after being located within 5 mins of my crash.


This time some bugger booked the rowing club thingy for the night so we're going over the Porika as well so it'll be even later :D

We have nice long stops though.

It's a good long cruise.

Harden up ya nancy boy :bleh: You lot are only riding 550ish km hence even if you maintained the typical adv ride pace of about 50kph average it will take you ten hours. Edit - damn my math sux tonight. Make that 11 hours.

Cheers R

[Transalper]

Um, I beleieve the molsworth is only supposed to be traversed between 7am and 7pm? which might make a 3am start a little early? or is it going to take you 4 hours to get to the first ranger station? Maybe it does, I don't remember and I'll still be in bed at 3am hell, I may have only just gotten to sleep.

[NordieBoy]

We took 7 hours to get to the Molesworth Information Centre on the 2-day.
How long did you guys take?

[CrazyFrog]

We took 7 hours to get to the Molesworth Information Centre on the 2-day.
How long did you guys take?

Seven hours!!!! What the hell were you doing? I've done the 500km Nelson - Mangatapu - Molesworth - Rainbow - Nelson loop in March (okay, I didn't do Mt Altimarch) in 7 1/2 hours......mind you, if there was a cop on the Molesworth I might have lost my licence. Riding time around 6hrs 45min, food/fuel stops 45mins.
Katie-M loved it hard and fast.:Punk:....and I slept well afterwards.

[Underground]

[QUOTE=Padmei;1819611]How are you making your ralye style fairing? I'm about to attempt a larger screen on Gonzo!

I just made a shorter screen for my @ ,Its pretty easy to shape that fancy perspex stuff by heating it over a gas ring (didnt have a heat gun)
Its got quite a few marks on it and looks a bit rough but if I spent another $20 on a new piece of plastic Im sure I could make a nice one ,but what the hell ,I get a lot less buffeting with a shorter one