Wellington Wednesday Night Cruisy Summer Rides -- 2008/09

[325rocket]

:doh:hey its Sam here the guy who just came off on the Takas! :doh: well i have a nice load of lumps and bruises and its gunna hurt 2moro but till then its fine so the bike, well im thinking of cliaming on the insurance and i think that they will pay up so that will be nice, i am trying 2 put up some fotos of the bike but it's throwing a tanty at me so ill give 1 more go before i have to pick the munted bike up. See ya next time!!

gutted ... and welcome, nice first post haha

[I'm motarded]

:doh:hey its Sam here the guy who just came off on the Takas! :doh: well i have a nice load of lumps and bruises and its gunna hurt 2moro but till then its fine so the bike, well im thinking of cliaming on the insurance and i think that they will pay up so that will be nice, i am trying 2 put up some fotos of the bike but it's throwing a tanty at me so ill give 1 more go before i have to pick the munted bike up. See ya next time!!


Bugger dude, at least your ok

[sels1]

:doh:hey its Sam here the guy who just came off on the Takas!

Welcome aboard the site. Nice to meet you briefly at the duckpond. (We didnt go on the ride as we had a prior engagement) Sorry to hear you had an off. What happened?

[DEMONTRANSFORMER]

Hey guys new to this so show some sympothy for this sad sack:bash:!!
met one of the guys who rides from wellington! i work at caltex stokes valley pop in and say G'day sometime.

Will

[mattathm]

This ride looks far too dangerous. You guys are going to start getting the po po's attention. One has to wonder whether the ride leadership is out of step.

Im glad the wed night now has a dangerous look to it, just like the thursday ride... so now we are all even and back to square one. :girlfight:

Im thinking the leadership had nothing to do with why someone fell off.
I also thinking its either the riders or the bikes fault and no one elses, unless of course there was a third party like oil on the corner or something.

The GN250 is a great bike, to commute from lower hutt to seaview in peak hour traffic at 30kmh. Its also fine to go up the takas on but you gotta ride it to the weather conditions the bike conditions / setup and the riders experience has a massive effect as well.

I think Sams experience just doubled from his efforts tonight and hes not shy to tell everyone he fell off :2thumbsup im sure before he gets another ride up the takas he will have a look at the bikes setup, tyres suspension etc and go thru the owners manual and set it up correctly or ask for help in doing so on this web site.

Afterall everyone is here to help, so welcome aboard sam....
and get back to fixing ya bike.
Take a panadol now, the pain wont be so bad in the morn, heheheheee

[captain_andrey]

Good blast tonight, especially around the lake. That road is fun.

[mattathm]

Post #2

Wed night ride organisation...

Tonights ride was much more organised...

There was a small briefing at the lake, the destination was decided and a vote to stop at the top or carry on thru was also discussed.
There was also the question of an extra ride, no holes bared around the lake.
This was a great idea and those that wanted to go gave a hands up.

Once we made it to the pub on the other side, again the question was whos coming around the lake, once food was ordered everyone that wanted to go jumped on the bikes and off we went.

The grouping system worked well tonight, as the faaster riders set out front and the slower riders at the back.

All the extra rides once we arrive at our original destination are seperate from the actual wed night ride and how they are conducted depend totally on how many riders and their capabilites.
That sort of thing will be decided on the day.

All in all a great nights ride, thanks alot.

[Maki]

Post #2


There was also the question of an extra ride, no holes bared around the lake.


I prefer it when the holes are bared :bleh:

[Weaver]

I prefer it when the holes are bared :bleh:

Your signature seems to sum up the wedensday way of thinking.

[Hawkeye]

Post #2

Wed night ride organisation...

Tonights ride was much more organised...

There was a small briefing at the lake, the destination was decided and a vote to stop at the top or carry on thru was also discussed.
There was also the question of an extra ride, no holes bared around the lake.
This was a great idea and those that wanted to go gave a hands up.

Once we made it to the pub on the other side, again the question was whos coming around the lake, once food was ordered everyone that wanted to go jumped on the bikes and off we went.

The grouping system worked well tonight, as the faaster riders set out front and the slower riders at the back.

All the extra rides once we arrive at our original destination are seperate from the actual wed night ride and how they are conducted depend totally on how many riders and their capabilites.
That sort of thing will be decided on the day.

All in all a great nights ride, thanks alot.

It sounds like everyone 'did as they were told'.

[davebullet]

G'day Sam,

Glad you walked away from it. Damage to bike doesn't look that bad. I've had my share of oh shit moments (so has everyone here I'm sure) and lady luck I think more than anything has smiled upon me. I don't know what caused it, but take care and don't feel pressured to keep up with others. I know I do and have to get over myself to ride my own pace.

[Weaver]

don't feel pressured to keep up with others. I know I do and have to get over myself to ride my own pace.

But how else can people show off their mad skillz

[Hitcher]

So how many offs is that now for the Wednesday Night Ride's year so far?

[Sully60]

So how many offs is that now for the Wednesday Night Ride's year so far?

As they say, most bins wins. Wednesday is looking good in the early running.

[driftn]

You guys are all a bunch of huligons and I for one will not be atending one of the CRASHY WEDNESDAY NIGHT RIDES for fear of my life.

[Freakshow]

Before someone else brings it up I too had an off. I had to get off and push!!! I had a pleasant stroll for about half an hour while Guy kindly fetched some gas for me! I have to say it is mighty peaceful on the western side of the lake with no engines screaming! Thanks again GUY!

[Insanity_rules]

Hey all,
Great to meet up with you and good to see old friends last night. Big ups to Sam the man with the GN, you took your bin well in your stride. Just remember bikes are repairable and chicks dig scars.

I thought the leadership was great, I had the nice ploddy position in the back row riding with my buddy who has only had his license two weeks (first time for him on the hill). No one was in any way forced to keep pace and a good time was had.

For a change I even rode like my Nana's Nana and had a ball.

Look forward to becoming a regular fixture on Wednesdays again.

To all who think the Wednesday is becoming Bin fest, its just bad luck not bad management.

[Sully60]

, its just bad luck not bad management.

Tell that to Katman, I dare you!

[Deano]

To all who think the Wednesday is becoming Bin fest, its just bad luck not bad manmagement.

Que Katman.........

[Fatjim]

TBH, I think UB would be rolling his head in all the disgust he could muster. Which wouldn't be much.

[sinfull]

Crikey , its almost like a lottery !
Dont think Steve would have much to comment about a noob binning his ginny ! But then the No Holes Barred comment may get a reaction, though not of a sexual nature im sure as i've met his wife ! Lovely lady i might add

[davebullet]

But how else can people show off their mad skillz

Maybe we use the duck pond for some pre-ride wheelies, stoppies, burnouts and other antics. Get it out of our system. I have a couple of blind folds I could bring and a couple of broom sticks for a "head on chicken out joust", a new motorcycling event for the nuttas.

Of course I don't imply Sam's off was due to the above.

[Katman]

To all who think the Wednesday is becoming Bin fest, its just bad luck not bad management.

I just pissed LOLs.

Serious question though Deano - do you see the number of bins that these sorts of rides seem to attract as a laughing matter?

[Weaver]

I shall green bling whoever owns up to letting katman know about this thread
:clap:

[Katman]

I shall green bling whoever owns up to letting katman know about this thread
:clap:

Katman sees all.

[WuZards-Eugene]

You guys are all a bunch of huligons and I for one will not be atending one of the CRASHY WEDNESDAY NIGHT RIDES for fear of my life.

*****Notice for all learner riders*****

The Wednesday Night Cruisy Summer rides is no longer intended for learners who just wanna keep up with the big bikes. The Thursday Humble Ride Around Some Highways is more intended for your needs :stupid: , has the lowest bin history (for now :motu:), and will hone your skills in advanced crashin**, oopss, i mean riding.

If you feel that you are incapable of riding slowly, or safely, which ever you prefer, then please do not come on the Wednesday Night ride. The Wednesday Night Cruisy rides are intended on having a slow pootle over a hill at your own speed. If you feel that you cannot ride at your own comfortable speed then please go on the Thursday night rides so that you have a better story for other KBer's to moan and winge about :cry: :bash: :angry2: .

[Drogen Omen]

Way too much bitching and moaning... almost can't bring my self to turn up to the rides any more...

Accidents happen.

[Deano]

Serious question though Deano - do you see the number of bins that these sorts of rides seem to attract as a laughing matter?

No.

But it does help if they walk away ok. Some would say it is part of the learning process. To err is human and we often learn the best lessons from our mistakes.

But, riding beyond your limits, wheelies and stunts are neither big nor clever.

However, I am a big fan of personal responsibility also. :msn-wink:

[Deano]

But how else can people show off their mad skillz

You tell em mate !! :bash:



So how many offs is that now for the Wednesday Night Ride's year so far?


It's 4 or 5 for TCWNR (I think) and 2 for TRTNR since daylight saving started.

Not good people. Mistakes do happen but those are pretty bad stats aren't they ?

We all need to remember to ride within our limits and to the conditions peeps.

[fireliv]

You guys are having the exact same issues as we are (Chch Rides).

Its not our learners crashing, its our more experienced older riders who think they are great riding outside there abilities or doing dumb things.

All the best in sorting it out!!!

[davebullet]

You guys are having the exact same issues as we are (Chch Rides).

Its not our learners crashing, its our more experienced older riders who think they are great riding outside there abilities or doing dumb things.

All the best in sorting it out!!!

The only difference is the wind up here pushes our bikes over, and the smog in chch means you can't see where you are going :lol:

[Weaver]

I figured it out tonight. We went up Piecock and then around Greys road. I was having some fun on the hill and round the inlet, if you know what I mean. Once we got into the 50 zone and slowed down to a "cruisy" speed behind a car going about 40kph I binned my bike. So its the all this cruising thats causing the problems.

[davebullet]

Oh no - much damage to you or the bike?

[Deano]

I figured it out tonight. We went up Piecock and then around Greys road. I was having some fun on the hill and round the inlet, if you know what I mean. Once we got into the 50 zone and slowed down to a "cruisy" speed behind a car going about 40kph I binned my bike. So its the all this cruising thats causing the problems.

Fucken hooray !!

I was waiting to hear your story. That was a muppet moment wasn't it mate.

[Weaver]

Oh no - much damage to you or the bike?

Well since I decided to do it in style and have the bike slide into a road island, the crank case has smashed off

[James Deuce]

You guys are having the exact same issues as we are (Chch Rides).

Its not our learners crashing, its our more experienced older riders who think they are great riding outside there abilities or doing dumb things.

All the best in sorting it out!!!

You might want to read that again. It's n00b after n00b, after n00b, after weaver, after n00b, after n00b, after weaver.

ooops.

He's gonna kill me, but it's so worth it.

[James Deuce]

Way too much bitching and moaning... almost can't bring my self to turn up to the rides any more...

Accidents happen.
There's no such thing as an accident. If you don't know what went wrong, even when none of it was your fault, you're not learning.

[Deano]

You might want to read that again. It's n00b after n00b, after n00b, after weaver, after n00b, after n00b, after weaver.

ooops.

He's gonna kill me, but it's so worth it.

You forgot Drew mate.:doh:

[Weaver]

You might want to read that again. It's n00b after n00b, after n00b, after weaver, after n00b, after n00b, after weaver.

ooops.

He's gonna kill me, but it's so worth it.

I could take that as a compliment.... or an insult. I'm going to go with compliment.
Thanks Jim, thats a right nice thing for you to say.

[Freakshow]

Weaver How many bikes have you broken now??

[Insanity_rules]

No.

But it does help if they walk away ok. Some would say it is part of the learning process. To err is human and we often learn the best lessons from our mistakes.

But, riding beyond your limits, wheelies and stunts are neither big nor clever.

However, I am a big fan of personal responsibility also. :msn-wink:

This man speaketh the truth. I could only comment from the last wednesday ride I went on (which was the 17th Dec) but I thought the lesson was learnt quite well. Poor Ol Sam comin to grief was a reminder to us all to ride to our abilities. I'm not trying to put you down at all Sam as I'm really glad you walked away and yours was more commuter tires and a greasy spot.

My Buddy (who had his L's for two weeks) got a real eye opener and got some better gear. Still keen on the Wednesday ride too.

[Pedrostt500]

To much crying over spilt milk here, we all know that there is a Danger factor in riding our bikes, its part of the attraction. if you wanted to be safe and wraped in cotten wool, buy a cage, or dont leave home and stay hanging off ya mommas tit.
Ok its up to each individual rider to check that their ride is in rideable condition, the law of the land requires your bike to have a current W.O.F and Reg, I dont care if you dont have these, thats your choice. What I do expect from fellow riders is that their bike is in rideable condition, ie lights working for night rides, breaks in fair working condition, tyres that are suitable for the type of riding, not baby Butt bald or full MX tyres for open road riding.
If ya rock up wearing shorts, vest & jandels well I don't care, I wont feel a thing when you lose your skin, though a jacket is better than no jacket, and any pair of gloves are better than non at all, and a pair of old work boots will help you keep your toes, but propper bike gear is worth the money spent.
If you can make it to the duck pond in one piece, and feel confident in a moderate ride over the hill or to any given destination, of the day, then there is no reason you can't come on the ride, though if you let the group know about your exsperience level then some allowances can be made for your ability, but you are still responsible to ride with in your own ability.
As far as it goes with binning your bike, well thats part of motorcycling life, its going to happen at least once to each of us, just learn from it.

[driftn]

I figured it out tonight. We went up Piecock and then around Greys road. I was having some fun on the hill and round the inlet, if you know what I mean. Once we got into the 50 zone and slowed down to a "cruisy" speed behind a car going about 40kph I binned my bike. So its the all this cruising thats causing the problems.



Hey man whos side are you on? Giving TRTNR another victim :nono:

[Weaver]

Hey man whos side are you on? Giving TRTNR another victim :nono:

Most bins wins

[Drogen Omen]

To much crying over spilt milk here, we all know that there is a Danger factor in riding our bikes, its part of the attraction. if you wanted to be safe and wraped in cotten wool, buy a cage, or dont leave home and stay hanging off ya mommas tit.
Ok its up to each individual rider to check that their ride is in rideable condition, the law of the land requires your bike to have a current W.O.F and Reg, I dont care if you dont have these, thats your choice. What I do expect from fellow riders is that their bike is in rideable condition, ie lights working for night rides, breaks in fair working condition, tyres that are suitable for the type of riding, not baby Butt bald or full MX tyres for open road riding.
If ya rock up wearing shorts, vest & jandels well I don't care, I wont feel a thing when you lose your skin, though a jacket is better than no jacket, and any pair of gloves are better than non at all, and a pair of old work boots will help you keep your toes, but propper bike gear is worth the money spent.
If you can make it to the duck pond in one piece, and feel confident in a moderate ride over the hill or to any given destination, of the day, then there is no reason you can't come on the ride, though if you let the group know about your exsperience level then some allowances can be made for your ability, but you are still responsible to ride with in your own ability.
As far as it goes with binning your bike, well thats part of motorcycling life, its going to happen at least once to each of us, just learn from it.

I couldn't have said it any better. :2thumbsup

If you choose to ride without proper gear please make sure you crash behind me so i don't have to see your skin skid marks all over the road.:sick:

I have had lots of accidents off road on my dirt bike but going 80 on dirt is different to going 80 on the road... on the dirt you have a relatively soft landing...

I got all my experience from Mountain biking and then adapted to the differences on my dirt bike. I also know the limits of my bike ride accordingly.

I find because of that experience have confidence in my riding ability... my bike just doesn't go fast enough or have quick acceleration.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU ALL RIDE SAFE AND TAKE NOTE OF YOUR OWN ABILITIES

[driftn]

Most bins wins



Yes but we want TCWNR to win this one so keep it up right next time aye.




Glad to here your ok though mate its never nice getting a ph call saying ....... crashed.

[sels1]

Ive been a regular on the Wed nite ride since its inception and occasionally turn out on the Thurs one too. The format of the rides hasnt changed much in that time, and if anything the Wed nite ride has got tamer. There seems to be more bins this season than in the previous ones combined. And the FACT is they are fairy evenly spread between L platers and fully licenced riders. (over the two nights)Why? well talk to the individuals involved - to err is human and we can all make mistakes.
It is NOT the fault of the person who suggests the destination, the person riding at the front, or the tail-end-charlie, or anyone else except the bloke who fails to keep his bike upright - and the ones I've spoken to happily acknowledge that.

What I havent enjoyed this year is the extra whinging and moaning particularly from those who dont participate or have any positive input to the ride.
This is not a company, a club or the military. there are no managers or administrators, there is nobody responsible for organisation - and thats the way most of us like it - we get on our bikes to escape that sort of crap.
We operate by consensus. Be responsible for your own actions.

PS>If you dont put your expectations on others, you wont need to throw a tantrum went they dont meet your expectations. Organising KBers is like herding cats, the sooner some folk learn that the better.
As you were.....

[ajturbo]

You guys are having the exact same issues as we are (Chch Rides).

Its not our learners crashing, its our more experienced older riders who think they are great riding outside there abilities or doing dumb things.

All the best in sorting it out!!!

the more i crash.. the more experienced i get....:2guns:

[Trudes]

I just received an Xmas card from my cousin who also rides and he wrote "Remember that most motorcycle accidents occur due to failure of the nut that connects the handlebars to the seat"
Thought it was kinda appropriate here!! Ride safe kids, and enjoy.

[James Deuce]

Ive been a regular on the Wed nite ride since its inception and occasionally turn out on the Thurs one too. The format of the rides hasnt changed much in that time, and if anything the Wed nite ride has got tamer. There seems to be more bins this season than in the previous ones combined. And the FACT is they are fairy evenly spread between L platers and fully licenced riders. (over the two nights)Why? well talk to the individuals involved - to err is human and we can all make mistakes.
It is NOT the fault of the person who suggests the destination, the person riding at the front, or the tail-end-charlie, or anyone else except the bloke who fails to keep his bike upright - and the ones I've spoken to happily acknowledge that.

What I havent enjoyed this year is the extra whinging and moaning particularly from those who dont participate or have any positive input to the ride.
This is not a company, a club or the military. there are no managers or administrators, there is nobody responsible for organisation - and thats the way most of us like it - we get on our bikes to escape that sort of crap.
We operate by consensus. Be responsible for your own actions.

PS>If you dont put your expectations on others, you wont need to throw a tantrum went they dont meet your expectations. Organising KBers is like herding cats, the sooner some folk learn that the better.
As you were.....

That there is entirely the problem. Sooner or later one of these anarchic little disasters is going to hurt or kill someone because people refuse to acknowledge that riding in a group is a quite different to riding by yourself, or with mates you've ridden with for years. A mixed group of n00bs, just graduated from n00bs, and crusties is asking for it. There's distinct attitudes to riding within the sub-groups that aren't compatible.

I used to participate, I used to have positive input, but there's absolutely nothing positive about a roaming group of the unlearned and the unwilling to learn.

Much safer to just stay away.

The format of the Wednesday one has changed dramatically, simply because Bruce isn't around to keep it sorted. The chat at the carpark is good stuff, the pub is always good but the ride itself gives me the willies.

I'd like to know who said falling off a motorcycle is compulsory. That attitude is ridiculous. People need to actually take pride in staying on, not falling off. Motorcycling must be the only form of transport where a dramatic display of incompetence is not only lauded, it's welcomed.

[Kendog]

As far as it goes with binning your bike, well thats part of motorcycling life, its going to happen at least once to each of us, just learn from it.
Why do people keep using this tired old line. It's a bullshit attempt to justify peoples inability to ride to the conditions/their ability/the bikes ability etc etc etc.



That there is entirely the problem. Sooner or later one of these anarchic little disasters is going to hurt or kill someone because people refuse to acknowledge that riding in a group is a quite different to riding by yourself, or with mates you've ridden with for years. A mixed group of n00bs, just graduated from n00bs, and crusties is asking for it. There's distinct attitudes to riding within the sub-groups that aren't compatible.

I used to participate, I used to have positive input, but there's absolutely nothing positive about a roaming group of the unlearned and the unwilling to learn.

Much safer to just stay away.

The format of the Wednesday one has changed dramatically, simply because Bruce isn't around to keep it sorted. The chat at the carpark is good stuff, the pub is always good but the ride itself gives me the willies.

I'd like to know who said falling off a motorcycle is compulsory. That attitude is ridiculous. People need to actually take pride in staying on, not falling off. Motorcycling must be the only form of transport where a dramatic display of incompetence is not only lauded, it's welcomed.

That sums up perfectly why I don't go to the Wednesday rides any more.

[davebullet]

Maybe we need a Tuesday night ride to start afresh? I mean we have another 4 days up our sleeve to re-invent and give it a go (since sunday, wed and thurs are already taken). If that fails, we can either recycle the days, or for a clean slate I'll campaign for more days of the week to be added.

[sinfull]

Maybe we need a Tuesday night ride to start afresh? I mean we have another 4 days up our sleeve to re-invent and give it a go (since sunday, wed and thurs are already taken). If that fails, we can either recycle the days, or for a clean slate I'll campaign for more days of the week to be added.
What happened to the carpark training stuff i seen/read about when i first got here a year or so back ? Wasn't someone doing a bit of coaching/training
in the hutt some where ?

[Fatjim]

Ive been a regular on the Wed nite ride since its inception and occasionally turn out on the Thurs one too. The format of the rides hasnt changed much in that time, and if anything the Wed nite ride has got tamer. There seems to be more bins this season than in the previous ones combined. And the FACT is they are fairy evenly spread between L platers and fully licenced riders. (over the two nights)Why? well talk to the individuals involved - to err is human and we can all make mistakes.
It is NOT the fault of the person who suggests the destination, the person riding at the front, or the tail-end-charlie, or anyone else except the bloke who fails to keep his bike upright - and the ones I've spoken to happily acknowledge that.

What I havent enjoyed this year is the extra whinging and moaning particularly from those who dont participate or have any positive input to the ride.
This is not a company, a club or the military. there are no managers or administrators, there is nobody responsible for organisation - and thats the way most of us like it - we get on our bikes to escape that sort of crap.
We operate by consensus. Be responsible for your own actions.

PS>If you dont put your expectations on others, you wont need to throw a tantrum went they dont meet your expectations. Organising KBers is like herding cats, the sooner some folk learn that the better.
As you were.....

I think you'll remember then that this was a mentoring ride. We didn't make a point of riding in groups, we had a front and a rear. With the more experienced helping the noobs get to the top and back.

You talk to some of the guys/gals who started as noobs when this ride was going 2 years ago. How many of them remember other riders mentoring them by riding with them in 2's, or maybe 3's at most.

I wouldn't want to ride as a group on Wednesday. Thursday with experienced riders gives me the shivers enough.

[Trudes]

Just out of interest, what would the general ratio of L platers to experienced mentor type riders on TCWNR be? Does there need to be some more "seniors" turning up? Or are there generally not that many newer riders coming?
I would hate to see this ride disappear completely because of some moaning and wingeing on here about a few minor accidents, that we all know that even the carefullest of us can still have.
It's been a while since I've been able to come along to a TCWNR, so can't comment on people's riding on the ride or anyone's attitude or the organisation etc, but like all things, it seems to have progressed and changed by the sounds of things.
Maybe some of the people that are concerned about this ride should turn up to a few Wednesdays and offer some words of wisdom, offer to be TEC etc and get this ride back on track if you think it's fallen off, before more people do.

[Hawkeye]

Just out of interest, what would the general ratio of L platers to experienced mentor type riders on TCWNR be? Does there need to be some more "seniors" turning up? Or are there generally not that many newer riders coming?
I would hate to see this ride disappear completely because of some moaning and wingeing on here about a few minor accidents, that we all know that even the carefullest of us can still have.
It's been a while since I've been able to come along to a TCWNR, so can't comment on people's riding on the ride or anyone's attitude or the organisation etc, but like all things, it seems to have progressed and changed by the sounds of things.
Maybe some of the people that are concerned about this ride should turn up to a few Wednesdays and offer some words of wisdom, offer to be TEC etc and get this ride back on track if you think it's fallen off, before more people do.

I have to agree with you there Trudes. There seems to be a number of folks that state 'I used come along but don't anymore because.....'.
Maybe the format has changed due to lack of 'mentors'. I use the word mentors loosely here because it's more about the more experienced giving guidance to those of us who are less experienced.
The mentoring system on here has been revamped lately because there was the general feeling that there were too many acting as mentors who did not have the necessary skill set. Yet here we are trying to change that. The Wednesday night ride is not a 'mentor' session. It is a group of like minded people who want to enjoy doing what they enjoy doing.

I may end up not bothering with the Wednesday night ride. Why? Not because of the 'perceived' dangers. More because I am getting sick of all of the whinging going on about it (generally from those that do not come along).
I do not expect anyone else to look after me on these rides. I go at my own pace and look after number one. I do not race, feel the need to race, or feel the need to get there faster than the other guy. I RIDE MY OWN RIDE.

I have been lucky to have made some good friends who I am happy and comfortable to ride with AND WILL CONTINUE TO RIDE WITH.

[Ocean1]

Just out of interest, what would the general ratio of L platers to experienced mentor type riders on TCWNR be? Does there need to be some more "seniors" turning up? Or are there generally not that many newer riders coming?
I would hate to see this ride disappear completely because of some moaning and wingeing on here about a few minor accidents, that we all know that even the carefullest of us can still have.
It's been a while since I've been able to come along to a TCWNR, so can't comment on people's riding on the ride or anyone's attitude or the organisation etc, but like all things, it seems to have progressed and changed by the sounds of things.
Maybe some of the people that are concerned about this ride should turn up to a few Wednesdays and offer some words of wisdom, offer to be TEC etc and get this ride back on track if you think it's fallen off, before more people do.

Damn fine post m’dear.

Numbers vary a lot, largest variable being the weather. I’ve attended irregularly for the last couple of years, and in passing I’d say there’s been little change in how the ride is managed. I do, however, see a trend towards more L platers, a consistent cadre of intermediates and progressively less and less seniors.

That is a problem, it’s already been noted that the few bins there’s been have been novices, predominantly at speeds that can only be seen as almost pedestrian. I have been on a couple of Wed rides where the speeds were inappropriate for L platers, but that was ‘cause there wasn’t any there.

I don’t consider myself a senior. My contributions, such as they are, have been limited to simple advice to whatever novices wish to chat about the ride at the pub. I think I’ve scored a few hits there, but I simply don’t have the depth of road experience to be advising any but the most inexperienced. We need more seniors, particularly those with some ability or experience in teaching/training, (another skill I lack).

Never met Bruce, so I’ve no idea what his ambitions for the ride were. I know several who benefited from his methods, and I’d like to know more about how he structured the learning aspect of the ride. Lets hear a bit more about how the ride should be structured and less about how it shouldn’t eh? I believe I’d rather hear that from those who’re prepared to help implement any eventual consensus, though.

It may very well be that there’s a need to split the event into separate functions, (it’s worked OK recently, and before), particularly if there’s seen to be a need for actual “organised” mentoring in smaller groups, although I’d personally prefer the same destination to be retained. To those who care enough to post here: Piss, or get off the pot. Sels is one of the only genuine senior to regularly turn up, and I believe his contribution and those of the few others that do turn up when they can is both valuable and worthy of recognition.

Lets hear some simple, constructive suggestions, eh?

Oh, and if I hear "there's no such thing as an accident" once more time this year I'm going to get pissed.

[Bullitt]

I get concerned when I see people on here saying they might stop coming just because of the complaining on this thread. Complaining that is 99% done by people who dont come on the ride.

Ive been on most of the rides this year and coincidentally Ive missed most of the weeks when someone has fallen off. But from what Ive seen the standard of riding hasnt been that dangerous.

There has been enough talk, if people want things to change come along and do something about it. Bitching on here about a ride you havnt been on this year can only reduce crashes if it reduces the number of people who come, which Im sure isnt anyones intention.

I missed last week and Im away for the next couple. See you all some time in January

[Number One]

That sums up perfectly why I don't go to the Wednesday rides any more.

I find the online drama over it all a bit of a turn off also - though I'm most happy riding by myself...well with the exception of a few special lovelies that is.

[STOLLI R1]

I went for my first ride with the group last week. I found that the pace was just fine. I find that some ride faster than me, and some ride slower. I think some pers need to realise that we all have limits in our head as to what causes the instinctive fear reaction. The more experienced riders have this boundary set somewhere near the peg scraping, knee sliding rear wheel steering moment. New riders tend to have it set alot earlier and its only by pushing things that wee bit further that the boundary grows.

This process makes the fundamental difference in pace on a ride. The experienced riders have already gone through the whole crashing thing in rides well before the Wednesday evening cruises. What we have is pers who are beginning that process. They see the good riders and try to do what they do but sometimes without the understanding of the subtle things going on in the riders head as he or she rushes off into the distance.

Remember this, what feels slow to one pers may be a new experience to another. Don't get worked up about being too fast or too slow, just get to the destination and be smiling when you get there.

Some people fall off MX bikes in nice grassy paddocks while they develop their fear reaction boundary we have road riders doing the same thing, just on tar seal.

Experience is exactly that, doing it at least once before. You need to fall down at some point or you'll never know when it can happen.

I've been riding since 1989 and figure I have a reasonable understanding of what it takes to get about on a bike but I still look at pers riding styles n stuff to see if there's more I can try to improve (there always is). I know we aren't there to baby sit but I have no problem with dropping a few pearls of wisdom if someone wants to pick them up. I'm sure most of you feel that way. If Slighty turned up for a ride you would be trying your best to see how he does it and then try do the same, thats what the new pers are doing on these rides.

I will try to be at as many rides as I can logistically manage. When I'm there I'll tend to use my ex MC mechanic eyes to critique each bike I see. In doing that I hope to spot things that might compound the possibilty of someone having an off.

Based on my wee ride the other night I am impressed with the group. Good on you all for making it regular.

[Trudes]

I would hope that if "Slighty" came on TCWNR he would ride at the pace set by the group.... which in this case would be "Cruisy", otherwise he should wait and ride on the TRTNR where the pace is whatever speed you want to do.
The point of TCWNR is to ride at a cruisy speed, not to show the "Noobs" how fast we can ride and what it looks like when sparks are coming off your pegs and or knee sliders.

[Number One]

More seniors you say Ocean1...you mean like this crowd? (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/mamasimona/Familia/Granny_Finger3.jpg)

[Ocean1]

God between us and evil. The medical support alone would be a major logistical event.

[Pedrostt500]

As long as the drama Queens, keep the Drama on here, and not on the ride all is well, in fact I have herd very little drama about the rides on the rides.
The Wednesday ride is a very good training tool for all types of riders regardless of their exsperience, firstly because it is about learning from first hand exsperience, then from the input of fellow riders, The route between the duck pond and Featherston is a very good peice of road to learn on as it give a good variation of different road conditions and types in a relativly short distance.
As stated else where in this thread Each Rider IS Responsible for Their Own Ride. It can't be said any more simply than that.
I attend these rides for the social side of the ride.

[Number One]

So you are saying there are actually NO bitch fights on the ride then :shutup: I'm almost disappointed :lol:

[Howie]

As someone who has been along to only a few of these rides over the last to years, due to the timing being a bit tight for me normally. I believe the rides are a good idea, but what I see is that there is a group of riders of intermidiate experience who want to ride at a slightly faster pace than the newer riders, which is fine as long as everyone is made aware of the "ride your own ride" motto, and someone with reasonable riding abilities volunteers as tail end charlie, and that everyone is aware who it is.
As to Sam's crash, I am sure Sam and his friend(sorry forgotton your name) have been over it a few times and some lesson's have been learned.
I was behind Sam when he fell off, and the only thing I will say on here is that it was a combination of things that caused the fall. Sam you haven't posted anymore on here yet, I hope you are healing well, and hope to see you on a ride in the future.

Cheers Paul

[Laxi]

Some dumb learner questions:
1. What time do you usually aim to finish?
2. What size group(s) do you travel in?
3. How much experience is needed to do the Rimutakas safely?
4. Do you travel at the slowest rider speed?

Cheerrs,
David.

I went along with a friend to check out a ride last week, had a great time, friendly, helpful bunch of guys. ive had my bike for 3 weeks and i didnt go expecting to keep up with zx6r's or anything, hill is as safe as you make it, just go your own speed, your out to enjoy the ride you'l find somone sticks with you, and you eventually catch up with the fast guys, and thanks to the guys for a great ride too, hopfully i can do more rides

[Laxi]

As someone who has been along to only a few of these rides over the last to years, due to the timing being a bit tight for me normally. I believe the rides are a good idea, but what I see is that there is a group of riders of intermidiate experience who want to ride at a slightly faster pace than the newer riders, which is fine as long as everyone is made aware of the "ride your own ride" motto, and someone with reasonable riding abilities volunteers as tail end charlie, and that everyone is aware who it is.
As to Sam's crash, I am sure Sam and his friend(sorry forgotton your name) have been over it a few times and some lesson's have been learned.
I was behind Sam when he fell off, and the only thing I will say on here is that it was a combination of things that caused the fall. Sam you haven't posted anymore on here yet, I hope you are healing well, and hope to see you on a ride in the future.

Cheers Paul

just wanted to say, hope hes ok & gets his bike fixed up! that accident helped me learn a little bit more, watch your own riding, dont follow the guy in front exactly cause you or your bike aint the same as him & his bike

[Hawkeye]

I went along with a friend to check out a ride last week, had a great time, friendly, helpful bunch of guys. ive had my bike for 3 weeks and i didnt go expecting to keep up with zx6r's or anything, hill is as safe as you make it, just go your own speed, your out to enjoy the ride you'l find somone sticks with you, and you eventually catch up with the fast guys, and thanks to the guys for a great ride too, hopfully i can do more rides

"And that is the case for the defence your honour"......

[sels1]

That there is entirely the problem.
Thank goodness you have identified the entire problem. I wish I was as clever as you.
I think its a given that anyone who buys a moyorcycle and gains a licence understands there is an element of risk to that form of transport. Its not rocket science that riding in a group can increase that element of risk. Despite that, the Meetings and Events forum is full of group rides all over the country. (not to mention RAT, HOG, Ulysess etc group rides)
READ POST No1 IN THIS THREAD. And Hitcher didnt add the word cruisy to the title until a few weeks ago. It does not mention mentoring. It does mention group consensus. Cant see any anarchy in that.


I think you'll remember then that this was a mentoring ride. We didn't make a point of riding in groups, we had a front and a rear. With the more experienced helping the noobs get to the top and back.
Some truth in that, but you cant have a mentoring ride if you dont have any mentors. It is disappointing that hardly any of UncleBs mates and peers have seen fit to try and carry on his legacy.

And for the information of those who dont come on Wednesdays, there is one of Bruces former pupils who turns up most weeks and does his best with mentoring new riders. He dosent post on KB any more because of some of the crap that goes on in this thread, but he gets off his butt and contributes in person.
Most weeks a couple of more experienced riders volunteer to lead the cruisy group (which includes new riders), and go tail-end-charlie. Not too dissimilar to how it was done in Bruces time. Those not inclined to a newbie pace (its a free country) are encouraged to go on ahead and everyone meets up at the destination, and enjoys the social interaction.

... Complaining that is 99% done by people who dont come on the ride.
There has been enough talk, if people want things to change come along and do something about it. Bitching on here about a ride you havnt been on this year can only reduce crashes if it reduces the number of people who come, which Im sure isnt anyones intention.
Exactly.

[Drogen Omen]

Is there a ride set for this Wednesday 24/12/2008?

Also was wondering if the longer ride up to Palmy was happening on the Wednesday 31/12/2008 and if so what time is the meet at the duck pond. I think a 9:30am or 10am meet would be good.

[ArcAngellives]

Hey is there one on christmas eve ? you know im just trying to avoid my family :)

[captain_andrey]

I'm up for a ride, I have nothing better to do.

[Fatjim]

There has been enough talk, if people want things to change come along and do something about it. Bitching on here about a ride you havnt been on this year can only reduce crashes if it reduces the number of people who come, which Im sure isnt anyones intention.



First of all, I ain't bitching. I'm just pointing out some facts. And secondly, why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.

The point is, lots of people are falling off. If you are organising this ride, or consider yourself a senior rider on this ride, then start thinking about how you can make it safer, rather than patting yourself on the back for showing up.

[Bullitt]

First of all, I ain't bitching. I'm just pointing out some facts. And secondly, why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.

The point is, lots of people are falling off. If you are organising this ride, or consider yourself a senior rider on this ride, then start thinking about how you can make it safer, rather than patting yourself on the back for showing up.

Some facts have been pointed out, alot more opinions have been stated.

There are reasons why every individual crash has occured. But theres no reason why there have been so many crashes. Not one post in this thread will have stoped a TCWNR crash in the past or the future.

Ive been riding awhile but I in no way consider myself in a position to give advice to newer riders, most of it would do more harm than good. Im not patting myself on the back for attending, but Im also not trying to put other people off attending.

Come along on the ride or dont, post constructive comments regarding an individual week or the ride overall if you want but saying how terrible everything is is no help to anyone

[Hawkeye]

Can I just say for the record - Number One, I just :love: that new avatar (not your signature one by the way, I'm not THAT way inclined) :no:

[koba]

Here, this (http://www.goodhealthmatters.co.uk/images/BioCare_Cervagyn_Vaginal_Cream_50g_o.jpg)may help with the sand contamination some of you lads have.

[Fatjim]

Some facts have been pointed out, alot more opinions have been stated.

There are reasons why every individual crash has occured. But theres no reason why there have been so many crashes. Not one post in this thread will have stoped a TCWNR crash in the past or the future.

Ive been riding awhile but I in no way consider myself in a position to give advice to newer riders, most of it would do more harm than good. Im not patting myself on the back for attending, but Im also not trying to put other people off attending.

Come along on the ride or dont, post constructive comments regarding an individual week or the ride overall if you want but saying how terrible everything is is no help to anyone

Actually, saying how "terrible everything is" is constructive, it may get some people to stop and think. As for the rest of your post, honestly, it comes across as meaningless and lacking in any substance. Its a very blah blah blah thing. I kinda feel like the Simpsons dog. What point are you actually trying to get accross?

[WuZards-Eugene]

Im in. Whats the plan, waiarapas or wainui coast???

[Ocean1]

I think you'll remember then that this was a mentoring ride.

Which, presumably, required the attendance of a few mentors ™ eh?


We didn't make a point of riding in groups, we had a front and a rear. With the more experienced helping the noobs get to the top and back.


You talk to some of the guys/gals who started as noobs when this ride was going 2 years ago. How many of them remember other riders mentoring them by riding with them in 2's, or maybe 3's at most.

So, you did ride in groups… or not?


I wouldn't want to ride as a group on Wednesday. Thursday with experienced riders gives me the shivers enough.


First of all, I ain't bitching. I'm just pointing out some facts. And secondly, why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.

The point is, lots of people are falling off. If you are organising this ride, or consider yourself a senior rider on this ride, then start thinking about how you can make it safer, rather than patting yourself on the back for showing up.

No, dude, you’re definitely bitching. And if you figure turning up yourself ain’t going to help then what the hell makes you think blaming anyone else is?

You seem to suggest the senior dudes are directly responsible for the couple of low speed low-sides there’s been, should be responsible for every aspect of the noobs safety. Whatever anyone may think of that is irrelevant, there ARE no seniors turning up, certainly nowhere near enough to handle 2 or 3 learners each. And ill considered negative bullshit like this makes damn sure they won’t.

So when the next gaggle of noobs trundles off over the hill all on their lonesome I'm pickin' the person responsible for their safety will be you.

[Number One]

Can I just say for the record - Number One, I just :love: that new avatar (not your signature one by the way, I'm not THAT way inclined) :no:
Soooooo off topic BUT I am pleased that it pleased you sir ;)

[Fatjim]

Which, presumably, required the attendance of a few mentors ™ eh?





So, you did ride in groups… or not?





No, dude, you’re definitely bitching. And if you figure turning up yourself ain’t going to help then what the hell makes you think blaming anyone else is?

You seem to suggest the senior dudes are directly responsible for the couple of low speed low-sides there’s been, should be responsible for every aspect of the noobs safety. Whatever anyone may think of that is irrelevant, there ARE no seniors turning up, certainly nowhere near enough to handle 2 or 3 learners each. And ill considered negative bullshit like this makes damn sure they won’t.

So when the next gaggle of noobs trundles off over the hill all on their lonesome I'm pickin' the person responsible for their safety will be you.

sorry I don't agree with you. I'm perfectly free to sit back here and criticise if I want to. Just cause I don't show up on the WNR anymore doesn't make my opinions any less valid. Talk about burying your head in the sand.

The simple fact is: MORE people than NORMAL are falling off. Maybe the ride needs to re-evaluate what factors are contributing that can be eliminated. Bleating about people not showing up is a cop out.

[Drogen Omen]

I have to go to family xmas eve dinner so cant do this wednesday...

But I am SUPER keen for the all day ride up to Palmy on the Wednesday 31/12/2008

[325rocket]

Actually, saying how "terrible everything is" is constructive, ... ... ...
What point are you actually trying to get accross?

That pissing and moaning wont achieve anything … much like you stated yourself (below)


why the fuck should I come along and argue about how to stop people falling off, it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind is it. I'm better off not getting out of my seat, it wastes less breath.
.

thats the winning attitude!



sorry I don't agree with you. I'm perfectly free to sit back here and criticise if I want to. Just cause I don't show up on the WNR anymore doesn't make my opinions any less valid.

Bleating about people not showing up is a cop out.

How about just bleating in general? Hows that working so far?

[Drogen Omen]

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......

:argue::argue:
:argue::argue:
:argue::argue:

YOU BUNCH BITCH TOO MUCH...
PLAY NICE OTHERWISE IM GONA HAVE TO DRIVE OVER ALL YOUR BIKES WITH MY TANK... hmmm need to win lotto first so i can buy a tank... didnt think that one through... hahahahahahaha!!!

:mad:

:Playnice:

[Fatjim]

Hows that working so far?

I dunno. Lets see if people take their collective heads out the arses and figure out what they're doing wrong eh?

[*extasy*eyes*]

hey i met someone at the traffic lights a few wednesdays ago ... i think he was riding a triumph? nyway followed him to where you guys meet up for this WNR (dunno if u remeber me .. was riding a lil' red ninja) the ride looks like a really neat idea and heaps of fun but sadly have to work till 7 on wed and wont be here during New Years but will definatly come along next year :D big ups

[captain_andrey]

hey i met someone at the traffic lights a few wednesdays ago ... i think he was riding a triumph? nyway followed him to where you guys meet up for this WNR (dunno if u remeber me .. was riding a lil' red ninja) the ride looks like a really neat idea and heaps of fun but sadly have to work till 7 on wed and wont be here during New Years but will definatly come along next year :D big ups

Yeah we remember you :love:
That was the biggest girl turnout we've had in a while even if most of them were riding pillion.

[imne1]

is there going to be a ride tomorrow night?

I'm tootling up to Napier for the break, might be good to time my departure with this. Up until recently I was committed with work & study madness n couldnt come :-(

[captain_andrey]

The weather looks crappy for tomorrow and I dont want to wear my wets. If its not raining, I'm there.

[Bullitt]

Actually, saying how "terrible everything is" is constructive, it may get some people to stop and think. As for the rest of your post, honestly, it comes across as meaningless and lacking in any substance. Its a very blah blah blah thing. I kinda feel like the Simpsons dog. What point are you actually trying to get accross?

I agree saying how terrible is can be constructive, when its said once or twice. That was about 30 pages ago. I think everyone agrees that the number of crashes this year is bad and im sure most of them could have been avoided. Where we disagree is whether they could have been avoided by the actions of people who were on the ride but not involved in the accidents.

The sole point im trying to get across is what I said quite a few pages ago:
There has been enough talk, if people want things to change come along and do something about it. Bitching on here about a ride you havnt been on this year can only reduce crashes if it reduces the number of people who come, which Im sure isnt anyones intention.


Feel free to suggest what should be done differently in a way thats possible but I havnt seen anyone do that yet.

[Fatjim]

I give up.

[James Deuce]

I know the feeling.

[Weaver]

Its all starting to sound like alot of porridge to me

[Fatjim]

Just like that bike of yours. Just kidding.

[James Deuce]

Its all starting to sound like alot of porridge to me
It's better with salt. Whisky too.

[WuZards-Eugene]

im in for tomorro's ride. Does anyone know if the royals going to be open???

[Weaver]

It's better with salt. Whisky too.

What isn't?

[James Deuce]

What isn't?
Women. But then we have managed to create a drink they can't enjoy, because of their feeble minds and inferior palette, so we've excluded them without much effort.

[mashman]

Women. But then we have managed to create a drink they can't enjoy, because of their feeble minds and inferior palette, so we've excluded them without much effort.

Ohhhhhhhh i dunno, a pinch of salt and shitloads of whisky seems to work wonders...

[GrayWolf]

sorry I don't agree with you. I'm perfectly free to sit back here and criticise if I want to. Just cause I don't show up on the WNR anymore doesn't make my opinions any less valid. Talk about burying your head in the sand.

Amazing, Opinion on a topic with no actual 'first hand real data' I think its called living Vicariously.


The simple fact is: MORE people than NORMAL are falling off. Maybe the ride needs to re-evaluate what factors are contributing that can be eliminated. Bleating about people not showing up is a cop out.

However, I do have something to add to this thread which does have some substance and maybe of some help. A theory in Psychology called 'Flow'. By Professor Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi.

The basis of this theory is a balance of skill, challenge and arousal.
Low challenge against high skill level = boredom
High challenge against low skill level = anxiety
equal chalenge against skill level = flow (enjoyment or arousal)
This is a very basic breakdown and I would suggest reading this theory. For the competent motorcyclist, the speed of a Wednesday night ride could be boring, (low challenge). Unless you use the low speed to really self evaluate your technique. Low challenge can lead to lower concentration levels. For a novice/newer rider the challenge is a lot higher Vs the skill level. Probably near a flow/anxiety state. boredom and anxiety could contribute to why both types have had an off on the cruisey rides. Low concentration (boredom) and; high concentration on the direct task (riding) with no extra for assessing road conditions, thinking ahead etc.
I wonder how many on here who are commenting negatively could stand up and say their skill level is up to what it should be? When did you last do an advanced/refresher riding course? Just how much riding experience do you have? Weekend warrior? Fair weather rider? Commuter? How many years? its easy to sit back and snipe. Do I need a refresher? Yes I do, I aquired the Advanced test in the UK about 20yrs ago. That required being taught and followed by a qualified Police Motorcyclist. I KNOW I've developed a few :innocent: bad habbits since then. Experience? Yeh 34 years of it and between 20-30,000km a year, do the bloody maths. Expert rider? No I am not!
Do I have the expertise to train another? NO! Does being a racing rider make you a shit hot/super safe road rider? Not according to many of the top racing riders over the years.

So PLEASE people, have a good think before sniping and moaning on here about the Wednesday rides and actualy come up with something constructive.
I agree with Hawkeye, there's people I've met on those rides I would very happily ride with any time.

[davebullet]

equal chalenge against skill level = flow (enjoyment or arousal)


I agree with that. Another way of putting it is sorta like going from using two hands down to one hand to undo a bra.

[ajturbo]

I agree with that. Another way of putting it is sorta like going from using two hands down to one hand to undo a bra.
only ONE hand???
who wants to let me try that???

[RantyDave]

only ONE hand???
The trick is that the one hand has to be holding a pair of scissors.

Dave

[Pex Adams]

People - LISTEN TO ME CAREFULLY. Before I come and start cracking some heads!!!

1. Senior (mentor) riders, take some responsibility here - learners are looking at you as 'role models'. Even on this tread they are looking at you and thinking I'm going to act like YOU! No wonder people are falling off....

2. Learners - You take some responsibility as well! You are not Valentino, nor was Bruce, which is why he's DEAD! and let me remind you of that!

Look, I don't want to have to go on a ride, or on this website and know that there is a possibility of anyone of you not coming back, EVER! Nor do I want to hear people critcising people (Fatjim) who are trying to help others get better. Its like voting, if you don't vote, you have no right to criticise.

Finally, maybe its time for a change - how about looking at going to some carparks, and practicing skills. Emergency Braking might be a great start (from the sounds of it) even in the wet. Also what about getting people to learn to look over each others bike.. Because until you all can start riding together, how about we all start getting along together!

Now lets get back to reality here - Merry Christmas, and be thankful you are having one, because Bruce isn't!

[davebullet]

only ONE hand???
who wants to let me try that???

It's taken some time to perfect the one handed technique for bra clasp undo-age. I've found the best way (if you are right handed like me) is to put your thumb into the underlapping part of the strap and use your index finger and 2nd finger to pull the overlapping part over - and hey presto, one undone strap. This technique is applied from the front of said bra wearer so you are reaching around the back.

Extra for experts:
1. Try on a multi clasp bra - especially the reinforced models. Speed triples and speed fours (aka 3 clasp and 4 clasp bras) are a real challenge
2. Speed trials - under 2 second release
3. Covert manoeuvre.... use the left hand to offer a gift / present, whilst the right hand quietly and effectively applies the technique (and you get away with it).

Dave.

[James Deuce]

Do I have the expertise to train another? NO! Does being a racing rider make you a shit hot/super safe road rider? Not according to many of the top racing riders over the years.

So PLEASE people, have a good think before sniping and moaning on here about the Wednesday rides and actualy come up with something constructive.
I agree with Hawkeye, there's people I've met on those rides I would very happily ride with any time.

It's not about training, its about hanging with people who have good habits. Training is for the RRRS Guys and Gals and the Roadsafe Guys and Gals. I do refresher courses every 2-3 years, just to beat the bad habits out again.

I've put a lot of energy into helping out people with roadcraft over the years, but people don't want to learn roadcraft, they just want to ride over the Rimutakas as fast as possible, trailing parts and fallen riders. I offered to put some energy into the KB mentor scheme, but I have a problem with expressing an honest opinion from time to time, and people forget that opinions are worthless and get very upset. They have no problem returning the honesty though.

There's no equivalent to RoSPA in NZ, because Transit/LTSA have deemed rider and driver training unsafe and don't want the Police to put time into rider or driver training as it promotes over-confident drivers/riders.

The biggest problem with the Wednesday rides as they stand at the moment are the lack of respect shown by riders of all capabilities and experience levels for each other. Most of the people you talk with will tell you they are "good" riders. I know a couple and I'm not one of them. There's no focus on maintaining a little discipline, things like overtaking a slow vehicle one bike at a time, staying on your own side of the road, and leaving a safe distance between bikes travelling together. There's often very little discussion about meeting points and destinations, as can be evidenced by posts in this thread.

When you've been riding for years there's stuff you take for granted, and one of those is confidence and a positive outlook, a sense of control over your destiny. None of the people I've spent time with go on the Wednesday rides. They've moved away, a couple have died (fell in with a different crowd and paid the price), had big accidents because I made them over confident, or just quietly gotten on with enjoying their riding without needing the affirmation and approval of a group of people on KB. The "mentor scheme" in Wellington isn't working and I'm not prepared to own responsibility for it. I simply don't have time. However in time honoured KB fashion that means I'm not prepared to man up, so my opinion is worthless.

Merry Xmas.

[captain_andrey]

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Someone tell me when all the bitching stops.

[Hawkeye]

captain_andrey unsubscribes from this thread.
Someone tell me when all the bitching stops.

I'm with you captain.:bye:

[Fatjim]

Yeah guys, stop bloody bitching, and start bloody listening.

[ukiwi]

This is fucking insane
Im with Andrey and Hawkeye

Both me and the wife both ride with L plates and go on the Wednesday rides. Every time we have found plenty of experience and advice on offer. There has always been a leader and tec who, in our opinion, have organised and controlled things well, in fact I leaned more following Sels once up the tukas than I have in the past 6 months riding alone.
My wife, Lilly2wheels, changed her riding style, for the better, after a ride over to kapati and a chat with a couple of the senior riders who had followed her over.
So for the life of me I cant understand what the fuck all this is about.
I guarantee that all this BULLSHIT is stopping new riders from coming along.
Whatever is said here, the rides are a great way to spend your evenings, a great place to learn and are SAFE.

We will still be there for the rides, and the people we get to ride with and learn from, but this is it for me on the site, driving me fucking mental reading all this shit, and yes I understand its peoples views, opinions, advice blah fucking blah, but honestly no-one gives a fuck unless you turn up on the night

[driftn]

I agree with that. Another way of putting it is sorta like going from using two hands down to one hand to undo a bra.

I once looked at a bea and it just came undone. Hands are for the hopeless

[Fatjim]

Much more fun using your teeth, especially when the clasp is on the front.

BTW, see ya ukiwi.

[Drogen Omen]

and once again....

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH ......

:argue::argue:
:argue::argue:
:argue::argue:

YOU BUNCH BITCH TOO MUCH...

:mad:

:Playnice:

[Drogen Omen]

Merry Christmas everyone.

[captain_andrey]

Not so merry when you dont have a bike :bye:

[sinned]

Merry Christmas
The earliest I will be back on the ride is 21 January 2009.

[GrayWolf]

I've put a lot of energy into helping out people with roadcraft over the years, but people don't want to learn roadcraft, they just want to ride over the Rimutakas as fast as possible,
There's no equivalent to RoSPA in NZ, because Transit/LTSA have deemed rider and driver training unsafe and don't want the Police to put time into rider or driver training as it promotes over-confident drivers/riders.

Hi James,
more of a question than response to your post. Understand fully about the roadcraft comment.
However, I know of BRoNZ, are there other groups that are lobby active in NZ? UK has MAG, or FEM for Europe. I am just pontificating a bit as with the current crop of adverts on TV extolling the virtue of buying a cage with electronic stability control. Maybe its time the old adage of training overconfident drivers/riders was challenged. Surely those new ads are simply going to produce a crop of drivers who are overconfident because the car will 'do it for me' I dont need to be skillful anymore.
I went through the time in the UK when Peter Bottomly attempted to legislate compulsary leg protectors on all Motorcycles. This was successfuly challenged and stopped. Are the Lobby groups here strong enough to issue a similar challenge?

[James Deuce]

Hi James,
more of a question than response to your post. Understand fully about the roadcraft comment.
However, I know of BRoNZ, are there other groups that are lobby active in NZ? UK has MAG, or FEM for Europe. I am just pontificating a bit as with the current crop of adverts on TV extolling the virtue of buying a cage with electronic stability control. Maybe its time the old adage of training overconfident drivers/riders was challenged. Surely those new ads are simply going to produce a crop of drivers who are overconfident because the car will 'do it for me' I dont need to be skillful anymore.
I went through the time in the UK when Peter Bottomly attempted to legislate compulsary leg protectors on all Motorcycles. This was successfuly challenged and stopped. Are the Lobby groups here strong enough to issue a similar challenge?

Ixion is the man to talk to in regard to BRONZ activities. He's been writing some very challenging stuff for BRONZ that is being published in Kiwi Rider in BRONZ's monthly column. NZ has two challenges when it comes to attempting to challenge any Government edict:

1. Small population base overall and in regard to the "motorcycling public".
2. The "she'll be right" attitude that pervades our culture.

I think you're right, but I think we need to focus on attitude ahead of mechanical and physical skills. Developing a "sixth sense" is paramount to riding on the road and enjoying a long career at it.

[henry]

Not so merry when you dont have a bike :bye:

OK, I'll bite. Where's your bike?

[captain_andrey]

OK, I'll bite. Where's your bike?

Last I saw it, on the back of a tow truck. Lots of missing bits on it :bye:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=88886

[Drogen Omen]

Last I saw it, on the back of a tow truck. Lots of missing bits on it :bye:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=88886

That sux mate... hope you get it sorted... how bad was the damage...?

I guess there is no ride planned for the rest of us tomorrow either...

[Filter_nz]

Is this ride going to happen tomorrow being new years eve and all?

[rodimus]

How about an earlier ride today? Perhaps Midday.

Surely most people will be doing other stuff by 6pm.

[Drogen Omen]

Seems to be realy windy but its still sunny.

not sure about a big ride today though. its a bit late to plan for now.

[Bullitt]

Im still down south. I see you all next week.

[_STAIN_]

Good ride, Good company. Cheers

Wed. Ride 31-12-2008.....carnage Nil ;)

[ZZR1100]

For the summer daylight saving period (from 28 September).

Rendezvous point: The Duck/Elephant Pond in Avalon Park, off Fairway Drive, Lower Hutt (map attached)

Arrive with a full tank of gas.

Assemble from 6:00pm

Depart at 6:30pm

These are informal easy-paced rides, ideal for learners and people new to Wellington to meet up and go riding.

The default ride is often over the Rimutakas to either the Tin Hut at Tauherenikau or the Red Pub in Featherston. But a final decision about destination is generally left to a group consensus prior to departure. Weather and road conditions on the Hill, combined with a Group Vibe, mean other destinations and routes are sometimes chosen.

There may be a couple of "practice" rides required prior to 28 September...

Well thanks I had my first wednesday ride and loved it even though only 3 of us were there it was alot of fun. Thanks guys made it worth while

[Drogen Omen]

Well I'm back at work now and am keen for a ride this wednesday so hope to see you all there and i will try and drag along a friend for his first ride with the group.

[insomnia01]

hi all, any objections for a fellow kb'er from out of town tagging along for a cruise this weds?

[Drogen Omen]

no objections here... hope to see you then.

[captain_andrey]

No Objections, but I wont be there. Still no bike :(

[Number One]

hi all, any objections for a fellow kb'er from out of town tagging along for a cruise this weds?
If you are shouting the beers then HELL YES I am sure they will be happy to see you!

:lol:

[Drogen Omen]

No Objections, but I wont be there. Still no bike :(

Was your bike totaled??? or is it being fixed???

hope to see you back on the rides soon.

[captain_andrey]

Totaled. Insurance getting me a brand new one or the cash. Very small chance I get it by Wednesday though.

[Hitcher]

I may have to show off the new Italian, if work allows...

[Drogen Omen]

Totaled. Insurance getting me a brand new one or the cash. Very small chance I get it by Wednesday though.

Damnnnnn... did you break anything?

maybe you should get a stronger bike... you can have my DR350 for $3500... hahahaha comes with spare set of dirt tyres and a spare front wheel with a new Adventure tyre on it.

or you could get a Buell Lightning XB12ss...

[Kiwi.in.transit]

Hi everyone,
I'm still on my L's and think I'm (finally) ready to ride with some other people. It'd be a great opportunity to learn from riders who really know their stuff. Er, only problem is I'm coming from town and I'm too scared of rush hour traffic on the motorway... :eek5: I don't suppose there's any rides around wellington that I'd be able to come along on that wouldn't require rush hour traffic riding...? :)

[captain_andrey]

Not a scratch on me. On the bike, the crankcase was destroyed and frame cracked.

[sels1]

Hi everyone,
I'm still on my L's and think I'm (finally) ready to ride with some other people. It'd be a great opportunity to learn from riders who really know their stuff. Er, only problem is I'm coming from town and I'm too scared of rush hour traffic on the motorway... :eek5: I don't suppose there's any rides around wellington that I'd be able to come along on that wouldn't require rush hour traffic riding...? :)
The traffic at that time of night may not be as bad as you think - it moves along fairly slowly. Maybe one of the Wgtn based riders might offer to escort you out....?

[captain_andrey]

Hi everyone,
I'm still on my L's and think I'm (finally) ready to ride with some other people. It'd be a great opportunity to learn from riders who really know their stuff. Er, only problem is I'm coming from town and I'm too scared of rush hour traffic on the motorway... :eek5: I don't suppose there's any rides around wellington that I'd be able to come along on that wouldn't require rush hour traffic riding...? :)

There must be other people coming down from town, surely someone can ride with you and be your tail gunner. Hell, if i get my bike in time, I'd be happy to pop back into town and ride back with ya.
There are Sunday morning cruise rides as well but I've never been to one so cant comment on what they are like.

[madmal64]

Hi everyone,
I'm still on my L's and think I'm (finally) ready to ride with some other people. It'd be a great opportunity to learn from riders who really know their stuff. Er, only problem is I'm coming from town and I'm too scared of rush hour traffic on the motorway... :eek5: I don't suppose there's any rides around wellington that I'd be able to come along on that wouldn't require rush hour traffic riding...? :)
Hey I may have to ride to work on Wed (damn it). Im happy to ride out with you if you are keen? Its still fairly quiet in Welly this week on the roads.

[325rocket]

Hi everyone,
I'm still on my L's and think I'm (finally) ready to ride with some other people. It'd be a great opportunity to learn from riders who really know their stuff. Er, only problem is I'm coming from town and I'm too scared of rush hour traffic on the motorway... :eek5: I don't suppose there's any rides around wellington that I'd be able to come along on that wouldn't require rush hour traffic riding...? :)

theres not a lot of traffic on the road yet, but if it helps i can go via wellington and you can follow me out.

[Cloggy]

I will do my best to be there as well for the first time this Wednesday.
See first hand what all the kafuffle is about.
Went for a blat over the Rimu's on Boxing day, also first time. It was great. Much nicer on a bike than in a car.
See you all there on Wednesday.

[chazza404]

Totaled. Insurance getting me a brand new one or the cash. Very small chance I get it by Wednesday though.

lol wow nice effort :) what ya guna get if they pay out comp?

[captain_andrey]

Test riding a 2009 R6 tomorrow. If i dont like it, will just get another CBR

[STOLLI R1]

I'm torn between a Tuesday or Wednesday ride now. Spoilt for choice as it were.. I think I'll stick to the Wednesday thing.

[Drogen Omen]

Hi everyone,
I'm still on my L's and think I'm (finally) ready to ride with some other people. It'd be a great opportunity to learn from riders who really know their stuff. Er, only problem is I'm coming from town and I'm too scared of rush hour traffic on the motorway... :eek5: I don't suppose there's any rides around wellington that I'd be able to come along on that wouldn't require rush hour traffic riding...? :)

hey mate, i work on top end of willis street by the church and would be more than happy to ride with ya. my wife's on her learners also. drop me a txt 021 758 190 if you wana meet up for the ride to the meet point.

[Bullitt]

Looks like Im out for this week too. Have to go look at a flat at 7pm. Finding a flat with a garage is a pain in the ass.

[Drogen Omen]

Test riding a 2009 R6 tomorrow. If i dont like it, will just get another CBR

R6... i know a guy who had an R6 and he was a wanker... not sure if he was like that or if it was the bike that made him that way ... heheheheh

Test ride the Buell mate its the black Lightning XB12s at welly motorcycles... :love:

[Drogen Omen]

I'm torn between a Tuesday or Wednesday ride now. Spoilt for choice as it were.. I think I'll stick to the Wednesday thing.

There's a Tuesday night ride...??? Since when???


Looks like Im out for this week too. Have to go look at a flat at 7pm. Finding a flat with a garage is a pain in the ass.

Garage...!!! I would just park it in the bedroom... hehehehe

[LardEmbargo]

Have to go look at a flat at 7pm. Finding a flat with a garage is a pain in the ass.

yeah isn't it just. I got a not bad flat in Mt Cook, poor abandoned bike's relegated to a lock-up in Johnsonville FFS


Garage...!!! I would just park it in the bedroom... hehehehe

well obviously, but then if I haven't got a gargre where am I sposd to prak my sprots bike?

[Bullitt]

Garage...!!! I would just park it in the bedroom... hehehehe

Bike maybe (though not with my turning circle:blink:). This is more of a problem...

[Freakshow]

Bike maybe (though not with my turning circle:blink:). This is more of a problem...

That tiny! You should be able to stand it on its side up against the front door out of the way!

Won't make it for next few weeks as bike in Auckland and Iam on crutches... GRR

[Pedrostt500]

Yep I will be there.

[Kiwi.in.transit]

Thanks for all the escort offers :) makes a girl feel all warm and fuzzy inside :grouphug: I'll get in touch with those of you who offered to help me out and hopefully see the rest of you out there! After all, fortune favours the bold... right?

[Jaackaas]

Sounds like good fun! I may come along some time.

[chazza404]

Test riding a 2009 R6 tomorrow. If i dont like it, will just get another CBR

What about a gixxer? or the 09 zx6r is meant to be quite nice still nothing quite like the honda for looks :)

let us know how the ride was, hope to see ya tomorrow

[captain_andrey]

What about a gixxer? or the 09 zx6r is meant to be quite nice still nothing quite like the honda for looks :)

let us know how the ride was, hope to see ya tomorrow

Had a ride on the R6 over haywards today and its a fun bike but its really a track bike. Lots of power up high and lacking quite a bit down low. Sitting position is good, bit more racy then the honda but much better then the daytona.
Its really hard to put down any 600 i rode but honda is way better overall as a street bike.

PS i think gixxers are ugly as, and everyone seems to have one and I havent seen the 09 zx6r yet.

[Maki]

Don't tell me that white one is ugly. It looks pretty good to me.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/14555/2009-suzuki-gsx-r600-arrives-with-three-new-colours/

[ajturbo]

Don't tell me that white one is ugly. It looks pretty good to me.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/14555/2009-suzuki-gsx-r600-arrives-with-three-new-colours/

wow if you look closely, you can see th outline of th new 1125r buell in th front..... should i stop drinking??

[flame]

Had a ride on the R6 over haywards today and its a fun bike but its really a track bike. Lots of power up high and lacking quite a bit down low. Sitting position is good, bit more racy then the honda but much better then the daytona.
Its really hard to put down any 600 i rode but honda is way better overall as a street bike.

PS i think gixxers are ugly as, and everyone seems to have one and I havent seen the 09 zx6r yet.

I think you need a sexy black 749!

[captain_andrey]

Don't tell me that white one is ugly. It looks pretty good to me.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/14555/2009-suzuki-gsx-r600-arrives-with-three-new-colours/

Sorry, I don't like the exhaust a single bit, nor do i like the front cowling/lights. Just personal taste.
If I had to rate the current 600s purely on looks:
R6 > 675 > CBR > ZX6R > GSXR.
Ugly is probably too strong of a word to use on any of them. Its just the worst looking one. I know if I had to get one, I would regret it every time I see another 600 next to me.

[madmal64]

I think you need a sexy black 749!

Not a bad idea! Apparently there is one for sale somewhere in Welly. Lady owner Im told.
BTW it looks like its going to be a great evening for a scoot. Yeh Ha:shifty:

[captain_andrey]

I think you need a sexy black 749!

I take it they don't make these any more? I don't know why, but I don't think I could ever buy a second hand bike. Is that wrong? Its such a personal item to me.
848 is an amazing bike though. If only I could afford one :drool:

[flame]

I take it they don't make these any more? I don't know why, but I don't think I could ever buy a second hand bike. Is that wrong? Its such a personal item to me.
848 is an amazing bike though. If only I could afford one :drool:
nah, dont make them any more. And your right, 848 is sure pretty hot, but same as you, I couldn't afford that new beastie :)

As for second hand, Ive done the 'new bike' thing, just got over taking the big hit when you sell it. But if your buying to keep it for a long time then new would be my choice. Since I seem to change my bikes every year at least (gals aloud to change her mind every day ya'know;)) then I find I don't loose anywhere near as money on them by buying 'used'.

[captain_andrey]

As for second hand, Ive done the 'new bike' thing, just got over taking the big hit when you sell it. But if your buying to keep it for a long time then new would be my choice. Since I seem to change my bikes every year at least (gals aloud to change her mind every day ya'know;)) then I find I don't loose anywhere near as money on them by buying 'used'.

I plan to keep this one for a couple of years till the warranty runs out. Selling the bike is just as hard for me. When I sold my 250, the buyer asked if I wanted to go for rides and I couldn't cos I couldn't bare to see my bike in someone else's hands. :bye:

[Hawkeye]

captain_andrey unsubscribes from this thread.
Someone tell me when all the bitching stops.

For someone that has 'unsubscibed' from this thread, you sure seem to do a lot of posting :whistle:....or has the bitching finally stopped?:clap:

[captain_andrey]

For someone that has 'unsubscibed' from this thread, you sure seem to do a lot of posting :whistle:....or has the bitching finally stopped?:clap:

shhh i was hoping they wont notice

[Drogen Omen]

seems to be a little windy today... how about a niced and easy ride some where... dont realy wana ride over the rimutaka hill...

Any one know what the weathers like over the coast to paraparaumu???

also what is this Tuesday ride??? is it invites only???

[I'm motarded]

also what is this Tuesday ride??? is it invites only???

Nah man it was a once off ride yesterday i think for something to do

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89494

[insomnia01]

hi all, do you think you fellas will be running tonight?

[STOLLI R1]

I'm keen if the weather stays like this. Word is that it's meant to improve as the day goes on.

[sels1]

seems to be a little windy today... how about a niced and easy ride some where... dont realy wana ride over the rimutaka hill...
Any one know what the weathers like over the coast to paraparaumu???
Its not a bad day on the coast today, bit cloudy and a bit of wind.
Couple of options this way - ride over the Paekak Hill to Gordy's Bar in Paraparaumu or ride to the top of the PK Hill carpark then back around the Pauatahanui inlet to the Montieths Bar or Sandbar at Mana.

hi all, do you think you fellas will be running tonight?
Yep every Wed thru summer. Even when its crap weather there is always a few keen ones turn up.

[Maki]

The weather is just fine. It will be a bit windy but nothing extreme.

[Her_C4]

If the brackets for my new (OLD!) bike are finished, I may take it for our very first ride together and join you all at the destination (if someone would be good enough to tell me where that might be.... :confused:)

[GurlRacer]

I'm in Wellington now... keen to go for a ride if someone can have me as pillion.. only problem is I'd need to be picked up from the hutt. I'm stuck without a car and my flatmates bike isn't running :doh: (And yes, I come with all my own gear :D )

[Drogen Omen]

Its not a bad day on the coast today, bit cloudy and a bit of wind.
Couple of options this way - ride over the Paekak Hill to Gordy's Bar in Paraparaumu or ride to the top of the PK Hill carpark then back around the Pauatahanui inlet to the Montieths Bar or Sandbar at Mana.


Sounds good but I'm not confident enough to ride over the paekak hill and neither is my wife... especial if its windy....

so would have to meet you guys at the other end...

[Drogen Omen]

Test riding a 2009 R6 tomorrow. If i dont like it, will just get another CBR


Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Buell Lightning XB12s (short wheel base version) pic attached

[sels1]

Sounds good but I'm not confident enough to ride over the paekak hill and neither is my wife... especial if its windy....
so would have to meet you guys at the other end...
Could always do laps of the inlet....
Actually most of the PK Hill is a sheltered run up the valley and is not difficult when taken at an easy pace. Its only the bit from Paekak up to the carpark that is challanging in places.
There are other options anyway....we havnt done the run out to Makara this year yet...
Decide at the duck pond

[mattathm]

I'm in Wellington now... keen to go for a ride if someone can have me as pillion.. only problem is I'd need to be picked up from the hutt. I'm stuck without a car and my flatmates bike isn't running :doh: (And yes, I come with all my own gear :D )



Please post picture of your gear. :lol:

[gixxer-king]

Im seeing alot of guys here that are wanting to build up experience and skills before taking on the big hill. You guys are all welcome to join in the 250/learner rides. We go at a good pace where everyone is safe and comfy. great way to meet others and get some knowledge in those nogins and then later on we will all do the hill together.

see the clubs---> 250 notice board for meeting times and dates.

[Gareth51]

I'm in Wellington now... keen to go for a ride if someone can have me as pillion.. only problem is I'd need to be picked up from the hutt. I'm stuck without a car and my flatmates bike isn't running :doh: (And yes, I come with all my own gear :D )

Sels and I will pick you up for the ride, not quite HB weather tonight but not to worry it won't stop us from riding

[GurlRacer]

Hehehe excellent :D

See you lot tonight :D

[Insanity_rules]

I'm in for a ride, I'll see you happy lot at the elephant pond tonight.

[sels1]

Im seeing alot of guys here that are wanting to build up experience and skills before taking on the big hill. You guys are all welcome to join in the 250/learner rides. We go at a good pace where everyone is safe and comfy. great way to meet others and get some knowledge in those nogins and then later on we will all do the hill together.

see the clubs---> 250 notice board for meeting times and dates.

Good on ya for organising this. Will encourage new riders that turn up to check it out - do you want to post a link?

[carbonhed]

Anyone can come on these rides... right?

Would be good to meet some new faces / riding buddies.

Thanks, Chris.

[GurlRacer]

Anyone can come on these rides... right?

Would be good to meet some new faces / riding buddies.

Thanks, Chris.

Well, if I'm going then yes, anyone can go :D

It'll be great to have you along!! :D This will be my first Wellington Wednesday ride so we'll be in the same boat :)

[wilber]

Open to all ,arrive 6ish depart 630ish

[325rocket]

lots of bikes tonight...

heres a photo of them ... ( and GurlRacers head :doh: )

[Sparky Bills]

There were a few bikes tonight...
I could tell by the amount coming the other way on piekok hill leaning over with their bodys crossing the centre line.
I had to really slow down till you all went past.
Please keep in mind people that even if your bike isnt over the line, your body still is.

[Insanity_rules]

lots of bikes tonight...

heres a photo of them ... ( and GurlRacers head :doh: )

Oh look theres our bikes and my damn broken indicator bracket, oh well that'll teach me for being a show off. Great ride you guys and thanks to Guy for the DVD. I'll watch it tomorrow. Oh and could the bloke who has it next after me PM me so I can get it to you?

Oh and thanks to Sels and Gareth for being such great entertainment back over the Haywards.

[ajturbo]

There were a few bikes tonight...
I could tell by the amount coming the other way on piekok hill leaning over with their bodys crossing the centre line.
I had to really slow down till you all went past.
Please keep in mind people that even if your bike isnt over the line, your body still is.
stop being so sensible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i was going to go tonight, but i finished work at 3... by the time i was suppose to be on the bike i was onto my 2nd beer...
then the phone went... then tea... phone again...
yer i'm getting real slack...

but i am off to coro for a BBq at the end of the month.......

[STOLLI R1]

Oh so happy, another primo ride with no dramas. Good bastards at Monteiths.
You should all remember the man punting a Yamaha Skorpio along for the ride. We were heading back around the bays on the way to Haywards. A nice young man with passenger in a lovely new Suzuki Swift decided he had found the best spot to perform a U turn. Out go the anchors and a nicely timed swerve had the trusty Skorpio around the front of the offending vehicle. I had done all the breaking I needed, so I gave them a scowl (very pale face on the driver, can't think why) and we continued our merry way. Well done Cloggy, good defensive riding.

I counted 26 bikes parked up at the end - nice.

[Her_C4]

...... I may take it for our very first ride together and join you all at the destination (if someone would be good enough to tell me where that might be.... :confused:)




I counted 26 bikes parked up at the end - nice.


Coulda' been 27:baby::crybaby:

[nigel]

Oh look theres our bikes and my damn broken indicator bracket, oh well that'll teach me for being a show off.

Hehe, you gave a chance for someone to show their prowess and kiwi ingenuity with the ole' duct tape so it all ends well eh? :)

[GurlRacer]

lots of bikes tonight...

heres a photo of them ... ( and GurlRacers head :doh: )

Ahh damnit! I don't normally have that problem :lol: Most people look straight over the top of me!

Was good to meet you lot today! I look forward to future rides.. hopefully on my own bike one day :)

And my photos... :)
1. Group at top of hill!
2. Same as above
3. Lone ranger of sorts?
4. Kiwi ingenuity / the road bit his shiny metal ass :lol:

[flame]

sounds like I missed a good ride:doh:

The wines and company in Kelson were too great to pass up though :)
Next week I may have to come along and play:niceone:

[Insanity_rules]

Hehe, you gave a chance for someone to show their prowess and kiwi ingenuity with the ole' duct tape so it all ends well eh? :)

Yeah thanks for the reminder Nigel, I need to thank Hawkeye and his mighty Duct tape or I wouldn't be indicating right and the many people who came to my aid.


4. Kiwi ingenuity / the road bit his shiny metal ass :lol:

You said a mouthful there GurlRacer. I'd like to point out I didnt come off. My footpeg bottomed on a rather narly corner while I was doing my best Rossi impersonation and bounced the frame into the bottom of my seat. And I'd also like to point out I was following Nigel.

[GurlRacer]

Oh! And a HUGE thanks to Sels and Gareth for picking me up and dropping me home :D Muchly appreciated!
But alas, didn't beat you with the photos... ended up getting straight into the dishes and washing when I got home... oh..

[Hawkeye]

I need to thank Hawkeye and his mighty Duct tape

No Problem Insanity. I have always found it advantagous (sp - sorry Hitcher:hitcher:) to have a roll under the seat for such occasions.

[Drogen Omen]

Was a very laxed ride, had fun see u guys next week.

[Hitcher]

The Shiver enjoyed her first Wednesday nighter.

[sels1]

A very pleasant little pootle tonight, thoroughly enjoyable. Good to catch up with the usual suspects and see a few new faces too. The Montieths bar is a good venue, plenty of room, food came out quick considering the crowd, and they even put on a couple of free platters of nibbles. (puts a certain bar a few doors up to shame...)

Oh! And a HUGE thanks to Sels and Gareth for picking me up
You're welcome - you're a good pillion. (Ya must be gettin to know that seat quite well by now anyways:cool: )

And I got to traverse the PK Hill 4 times tonight.....:2thumbsup

[Gareth51]

It was a great ride tonight,some fast some slow,
for Sels and I ...down piekok,up piekok,down piekok,up piekok :drool:
What a great spot the Monteiths Bar is, 28 bikers walk through the door and within minutes everyone has a drink with food not far behind,what great service :clap:
Was nice to have GurlRacer along for the ride,a few more bikes than she is use to in the HB rides.

See you all next week

[WuZards-Eugene]

Hey everyone

Awesome ride tonight, good to see so many on such a crap day, not exactly what I was expecting. Monteiths Bar was great, definitely must do a repeat at another stage.

Thanks Bryce for the hose and bits, got it sorted out when I got home. Took the kwaka for a good run, works a treat.

See ya all next week.

[Cloggy]

Yep, I had a good time too.
First time out and I can tell you I will be back for more rides. Good fun and good company. One of the highlights for me?... The noise of 25+ bikes sitting at the light at the bottom of Kelson as the lights turn green. Bloody awesome.
See you lot next week.

[RoadRacer04]

That was a bloody good ride. i dont know wat it is but riding with other ppl is just so much more fun than riding alone. Nice to meet some of the faces behind the names. You will definatly see me at more of these rides.....

Cheers

Josh

[insomnia01]

:niceone::niceone: BIG UP'S TO THE WELLY CREW YOU GUY'S & GALS :headbang::headbang: thanks for letting a out of town KB'ER enjoy a sensational ride with awesome company & views to boot ( Damn, the view from Pai- cock hill is still breath taking ) I thank those I managed to have a quick chat with ( Hitcher, Roadracer,Hawkeye ( what was the test ???) apologies if I have forgotten your name ) 24+ bikers doing what bikers do best. Respect :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[Hitcher]

It's always good to have some out-of-towners along -- even those from the Waikato!

[madmal64]

It was a good night last night. Great to have some "imports" along for the ride. I really enjoyed the company and what a fantastic way to blow off hump day for the 1st week back at work.

[gixxer-king]

Good on ya for organising this. Will encourage new riders that turn up to check it out - do you want to post a link?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89401.

anyone at all can come on these. club 250 is for people to build up skills, not try to show off ones they dont quite have yet, so as long as the 350/400 riders dont winge that we are too slow you'll all be welcomed with open arms.

As with any rides we uunderstand some will be quicker then others. the pooint of the rides is to learn to ride in a group and to enjoy the scenery together so just keep it in mind guys.

the bike days are gonna be to show how to maintain the beast, what acessories are out there, why locks etc are a good idea and how to SAFELY modify your bike, (I've already seen learners with 7 inch gps units mounted to their handle bars) tut tut.

So all will be good.

look forward to seeing everyone.

[Drogen Omen]

HOLDEN fan for life.

:Police:Police Tab to date $720:Police:


My daily rant... please don't be offended

Hey Gixxer... I don't really think your police tab is setting a very good example to others...

did you get another speeding ticket??? I noticed that your tab was $500ish the other day... you wont be able to ride with the 250 club if you loose your license...:spanking:

and for a moterbiker I am shocked that you are advertising a car that is full of Ford parts.... not that I'm a Ford lover I actual can't stand Holdens and Fords...

Get a Honda City it does THE SPEED LIMIT and is eco friendly...

Rant over...

[Rev DJ]

Great ride last night - good to see a couple of dozen bikes streaming around the inlet. I was towards the back (as per usual :yawn:) and it was a spectacular sight seeing the bikes ahead making their way round the shoreline. Good to meet some new riders (carbonhed (nice 675) - Gurlracer) and to say hi to riders I'd met before. Cheers DJ

[carbonhed]

That was fun!

Pretty freaky to start with riding in a bunch like that but once I'd found a couple of stable wheels to follow ( blue R1 and SV1000... hmmm must be something about large blue motorcycles :cool:) I began to wind back from maximum alert threat mode.

Very friendly too. Thanks everybody.

See you next week :clap:

Chris.

[captain_andrey]

Getting my bike tomorrow so I will see everyone next week :Punk:

[Bullitt]

Getting my bike tomorrow so I will see everyone next week :Punk:

CBR?

Well I found a flat (in Mirimar) so I should be there next week...hopefully, I havnt been doing so well at that lately

[captain_andrey]

CBR?

Well I found a flat (in Mirimar) so I should be there next week...hopefully, I havnt been doing so well at that lately

Yep, its exactly the same. You wont spot the difference apart from brand new chicken strips.

[Number One]

Yep, its exactly the same. You wont spot the difference apart from brand new chicken strips.
Go to bed...it will come around quicker :lol:

[Paul in NZ]

The classic bike club is ending up at the sand bar this wed - if you dudes end up there you could look at a small number of odd bikes ;-)

[ajturbo]

The classic bike club is ending up at the sand bar this wed - if you dudes end up there you could look at a small number of odd bikes ;-)
sounds like a plan????

[Gareth51]

Kapiti Riders meet at Mobil (by traffic lights) ready to leave at 5:15

[Gareth51]

Kapiti Riders meet at Mobil (by traffic lights) ready to leave at 5:15

[sels1]

sounds like a plan????
u actually going to turn up AJ?l:bleh::lol:


Kapiti Riders meet at Mobil (by traffic lights) ready to leave at 5:15
looks like a good day for it.....I'll be there

[Drogen Omen]

Is the sandbar close to that Monteths bar that we went to???

I guess the ride is gona be a pikok hill ride today aye... will need to convince the wife that its quite safe to ride it.

[Rev DJ]

What a neat summer's day - great for a ride... shame I cant make it tonight - meeting an ex-Army friend. Ride safe and catch you all next week. DJ

[carbonhed]

Kapiti Riders meet at Mobil (by traffic lights) ready to leave at 5:15

I should be able to get there in time.

What a perfect day for a blat :woohoo:

[madmal64]

If work stops getting in the way of life I will be there. Could be a little late (5-10mins) so a bit of procrastination on where we are heading would be good:shifty:

[sels1]

Is the sandbar close to that Monteths bar that we went to???.
Yes it is. We used to go there often til we discovered the Montieths was better!


I guess the ride is gona be a pikok hill ride today aye...
hmmm not necessarily....its a good nite for the Tukas too...will see what the consensus is at the duckpond...

[RoadRacer04]

c u all thea.

[I'm motarded]

Good ride tonight, good to see close to 40 odd bikes there...

see you all next week

[Hawkeye]

Had a good blast over the hill tonight. 5 then headed off around a loop after ordering food. Great to see so many bikes out. Off on a tiki tour of the South Island (in cage :weep:) with friends from the UK so won't be out for a few weeks. Ride safe.:wavey:

[KoroJ]

38 bikes is quite a good turnout....I presume, since it's probably a year since my last Cruisy Wednesday ride.

A couple of pics.

[Maki]

Fantastic ride yesterday. Thanks to everyone who gave me kind and constructive advice. Brilliant.

[Insanity_rules]

Had a good blast over the hill tonight. 5 then headed off around a loop after ordering food. Great to see so many bikes out. Off on a tiki tour of the South Island (in cage :weep:) with friends from the UK so won't be out for a few weeks. Ride safe.:wavey:

Oh no I'll have to carry my own duct tape! :laugh: Have fun mate, see ya when you get back.

[Gareth51]

What another great Wednesday night ride it was,40 odd bikes, great :clap:

[Her_C4]

38 bikes is quite a good turnout....I presume, since it's probably a year since my last Cruisy Wednesday ride.

A couple of pics.

That's a LOT of VERY nice bikes;):2thumbsup Fourty bikes in one ride is a bit daunting for me though :sweatdrop - make sure you WAVE to me if you see me out and about :whistle:;)

[Insanity_rules]

Psst... Hey guys, me here.

Hands up whos next with the ride on DVD and I'll get it to ya. I felt so compelled to write a review if anyones interested http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=90544. I found it really quite good.

Rubber side down and I'll see ya all on Wednesday.

[Cloggy]

I think the Icelandic guy on the red Kawasaki is next in line. Not sure what his handle is on here (could be Maki??) Guy also gave him another DVD last Wednesday night. Not sure if it is the same one. Either way, if he doesn't contact you, I'll put my hand up as being next in line (pm sent). I can see some common denominators between some of the pointers about riding defensively which Guy gave me during our ride over the Rimu's last week and some of the topics covered on the DVD as per your review.
Sounds like it is a "must watch".

[Maki]

I think the Icelandic guy on the red Kawasaki is next in line. Not sure what his handle is on here (could be Maki??) Guy also gave him another DVD last Wednesday night. Not sure if it is the same one. Either way, if he doesn't contact you, I'll put my hand up as being next in line (pm sent). I can see some common denominators between some of the pointers about riding defensively which Guy gave me during our ride over the Rimu's last week and some of the topics covered on the DVD as per your review.
Sounds like it is a "must watch".

Yes, that's me but I have to work next Wednesday. I will try to make it on the Wednesday after that. The next in line should get the DVD this coming Wednesday and maybe I can get it later.

I got a DVD about group rides from Guy last Wednesday and it has some good information, thanks Guy. I will bring it next time I make it for the ride.

Cheers

[Insanity_rules]

Yes, that's me but I have to work next Wednesday. I will try to make it on the Wednesday after that. The next in line should get the DVD this coming Wednesday and maybe I can get it later.

I got a DVD about group rides from Guy last Wednesday and it has some good information, thanks Guy. I will bring it next time I make it for the ride.

Cheers


Sweet as Maki, I'll give it to Cloggy. Sorry you wont be out but i guess work has to pay for bikes right?

[Lilly2w]

Looks like another premo day tomorrow!

[sels1]

Its a good day for it.
Kapiti riders meet at Mobil by the lights for a 5:15ish departure

[elle-f]

Where ya going to?

[Nasty]

Where ya going to?

Like they know yet ;)

[davebullet]

No kids tonight... I might be up for the ride.

[Drogen Omen]

I'm coming alone this arvo, wife is busy so seeya at the duck pond.

[Lissa]

Where ya going to?

Well if they coming over to the rapa, then we could meet them at the Tin Hutt maybes??

[chazza404]

I'm coming alone this arvo, wife is busy so seeya at the duck pond.

So you'll be letting loose and leading yea? :D

[Drogen Omen]

So you'll be letting loose and leading yea? :D

haha yeah... well i managed to catch up to Captain Andrey on the way back up the hill last week. he takes off on the streights but i'm quicker on the twisties...

had my DR sliding sideways round most of those corners...