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  • Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition!

    WCC are reviewing the use of on-road motorcycle parking, which may include the introduction of fees / charges.

    Do your bit by signing the "keep it free" petition:
    http://www.wellington.govt.nz/haveyo...ep/details/147

    PS: Kudos and credit to BRONZ for organising this.

    EDIT: Even if you aren't a Wellingtonian (I don't blame you, honest) - sign the petition. If parking fees for motorcycles goes ahead here, you can guarantee one council will set a precedent for other councils "justifying" fees to be a nationwide thing.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition! started by davebullet View original post
    Comments 301 Comments
    1. steve_t's Avatar
      steve_t -
      How long does it take for the confirmation email to come thru? I checked my spam etc and it's been about 10 mins already
    1. cheshirecat's Avatar
      cheshirecat -
      http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home

      photos, links etc welcome
    1. riffer's Avatar
      riffer -
      This one might help better than your home page link.

      http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00002001124789
    1. cheshirecat's Avatar
      cheshirecat -
      That's weird - thought this was on a new thread. dam slippery that facebook.
    1. SpankMe's Avatar
      SpankMe -
      Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
      How long does it take for the confirmation email to come thru? I checked my spam etc and it's been about 10 mins already
      Should be instant, try again.
    1. Jvala's Avatar
      Jvala -
      I happily signed the petition. But - motorbikers can’t win, can we? Firstly the Govt stings us with higher ACC levies despite evidence showing it’s unnecessary; regardless, we keep on biking. Secondly, by motorbiking to work, we reduce congestion on motorways etc. just to find that cars regularly are using bike parks for their short term parking. And now, we supposed to pay for the privilege of reducing traffic jams – defies logic. WCC, please go to European cities and observe what’s happening there. They are happy to allow bikes (with or without engine) to park very densely. My plea – do your homework instead of thinking of ways to fill council coffers.
    1. jrandom's Avatar
      jrandom -
      A. Nobody who matters gives a fuck about internet 'petitions'.

      B. If you want free parking, get a bicycle, you fat cunts.
    1. all4A50s's Avatar
      all4A50s -
      SIGNED

      So correct me if I am wrong so I can make sense of the points the council are saying;
      They started ticketing/towing bikes parked on footpaths because of safety concerns, which in effect forced us to park on the road in designated places, where the bikes are more prone to being knocked over by wind or another vehicle. Not to mention the damage from bird poo as I can't park in an off street covered area and I can't park in the paid covered areas because of the bylaws prohibiting this.

      They introduce time limited parks, which are filled up with commercial vehicles, limiting our usage. And don't ticket them (I see this happen daily).

      They cite facts of emission and accident levels to justify introduction of fees for stationary vehicles with their engines turned off.

      What I would also like to know;
      Are they a going to supply free of charge water and wind-proof pouches or stickers that won't damage my bike in anyway?

      Will the charge reflect the size of vehicle?

      If the parking for motorcycles be limited to designated areas are they going to supply free transport for those who are unable to walk far?

      Will they introduce a system if paying by a machine for those who are unable to illiterate?

      Are they going to sign post and clearly mark where the areas they "Manage" so we don't inadvertently park illegally?
    1. scracha's Avatar
      scracha -
      Feedback?

      Some clever dick at BRONZ could do a redirect on their webpage to a nice short URL.
      Attachment 228727
    1. yungatart's Avatar
      yungatart -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zookey View Post
      Welly welly welly,i like the place# BUT. Good lord You must have one of the only towns that have free motorbike parking,there sure arnt any in the Bay,. What a carry on .next ya all wont chains ta tie down ya bikes,
      You want to get out of Havelock North occasionally. Plenty of free bike parks in Napier

      Signed...stick it to 'em boys. We can't tolerate such garbage any more
    1. steve_t's Avatar
      steve_t -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpankMe View Post
      Should be instant, try again.
      I tried again but it said I had already entered those details. It came through about 20 mins ago. Cheer mate
    1. jazzman's Avatar
      jazzman -
      If you Welli guys want to sort these fucks organise a ride into welli and take up all the car parks and pay for them at peak time. Pissed off cage drivers will sort the fucken council for you
    1. Zookey's Avatar
      Zookey -
      Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
      You want to get out of Havelock North occasionally. Plenty of free bike parks in Napier

      Signed...stick it to 'em boys. We can't tolerate such garbage any more
      I seem to have lost the plot here ,as i thought we were discussing dedicated motorcycle parking,and when i get the trumpet serviced at Anza in Palmy damned if i saw any,and only cars parked outside their showrooms,and that goes for all the local Bike shops.
    1. Zookey's Avatar
      Zookey -
      Quote Originally Posted by jazzman View Post
      If you Welli guys want to sort these fucks organise a ride into welli and take up all the car parks and pay for them at peak time. Pissed off cage drivers will sort the fucken council for you
      What a good idea ,as long as you could get them away from the forum long enough.
    1. Kendog's Avatar
      Kendog -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zookey View Post
      I seem to have lost the plot here ,as i thought we were discussing dedicated motorcycle parking,and when i get the trumpet serviced at Anza in Palmy damned if i saw any,and only cars parked outside their showrooms,and that goes for all the local Bike shops.
      You must be losing the plot, last time I rode to Palmy there were designated free bike parks all over the place. Not big parking spaces like Wellington, but free marked smaller spaces pretty much everywhere a car would not fit.
    1. Meekey_Mouse's Avatar
      Meekey_Mouse -
      I'll be signing the petition, but...

      "Retain free parking for motorcycles in Wellington Central City

      We, the undersigned, request that Wellington City Council continue to provide free parking for motorcycles within the Wellington Central City at the current designated motorcycle parking spaces."

      Doesn't this mean that even if they acknowledge this petition and agree to it, any further bike parks they create can be created to charge?

      I'm not trying to bag the person who wrote this up at all, just merely asking a question
    1. Scuba_Steve's Avatar
      Scuba_Steve -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kendog View Post
      You must be losing the plot, last time I rode to Palmy there were designated free bike parks all over the place. Not big parking spaces like Wellington, but free marked smaller spaces pretty much everywhere a car would not fit.
      yea palmys full of 'em anywhere theres a FH where there would otherwise be a car park, thats a bike park (obviously your NOT allowed to block or cover the FH itself tho) and anywhere by corners etc where theres not enough room for another car park, you'll also find a bike park.
    1. riffer's Avatar
      riffer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Meekey_Mouse View Post
      I'll be signing the petition, but...

      "Retain free parking for motorcycles in Wellington Central City

      We, the undersigned, request that Wellington City Council continue to provide free parking for motorcycles within the Wellington Central City at the current designated motorcycle parking spaces."

      Doesn't this mean that even if they acknowledge this petition and agree to it, any further bike parks they create can be created to charge?

      I'm not trying to bag the person who wrote this up at all, just merely asking a question
      As the person who instigated the epetition please allow me to clarify. WCC have rejected outright anything other than this petition. The words in this petition come directly from the Manager of Infrastructure Performance, and the ONLY way we were able to get ANY EPETITION AT ALL was if we went with it. Unfortunately BRONZ hands were tied on this one.

      Having said that, the petition does not mean we are not able to push for more. BRONZ, WIMA, MAG and other motorcycling representatives will be meeting with WCC on February 1 and we WILL be demanding a raft of measures to save free motorcycle parking, establish more free motorcycle parks, institute motorcycle lanes for safer riding in the city, and a number of other measures I can't mention at the moment as we are still working on the details.

      - Simon Gotlieb
    1. GOONR's Avatar
      GOONR -
      Stuff Article
    1. Nasty's Avatar
      Nasty -
      Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
      As the person who instigated the epetition please allow me to clarify. WCC have rejected outright anything other than this petition. The words in this petition come directly from the Manager of Infrastructure Performance, and the ONLY way we were able to get ANY EPETITION AT ALL was if we went with it. Unfortunately BRONZ hands were tied on this one.

      Having said that, the petition does not mean we are not able to push for more. BRONZ, WIMA, MAG and other motorcycling representatives will be meeting with WCC on February 1 and we WILL be demanding a raft of measures to save free motorcycle parking, establish more free motorcycle parks, institute motorcycle lanes for safer riding in the city, and a number of other measures I can't mention at the moment as we are still working on the details.

      - Simon Gotlieb
      To me it seems a fair and reasonable petition ... according to the article this morning http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4540...cycle-parks-go - there is yet another threat from motorcyclists ... but when reading you find that this issue is not out for public consultation yet. So there is plenty of time to rally the troops . .and also to partcipate in that process.

      The petition is a good way to commence the process for this year. This does appear to be something that drags its ugly head up every year or two.
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