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  • Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition!

    WCC are reviewing the use of on-road motorcycle parking, which may include the introduction of fees / charges.

    Do your bit by signing the "keep it free" petition:
    http://www.wellington.govt.nz/haveyo...ep/details/147

    PS: Kudos and credit to BRONZ for organising this.

    EDIT: Even if you aren't a Wellingtonian (I don't blame you, honest) - sign the petition. If parking fees for motorcycles goes ahead here, you can guarantee one council will set a precedent for other councils "justifying" fees to be a nationwide thing.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition! started by davebullet View original post
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    1. Str8 Jacket's Avatar
      Str8 Jacket -
      Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
      The bus travel prices are considerably more expensive in Wellingoton than London
      "Standard London Bus/Tram Fare is £2.20 per adult
      under 16's travel free
      £1.30 with Oyster (£4 daily maximum)"
      Exchange rate just over 2 to 1 and you can park cheaper as well.
      Yep, but ceaper than Aucks!

      It costs me (maintenance, WOF, etc included) just a little over $60 a month to ride to work. It costs over $180 to take the train or bus.....
    1. Scuba_Steve's Avatar
      Scuba_Steve -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
      http://www.wellington.govt.nz/news/d...em.php?id=4281

      Statement from the Council Website.

      Cheers
      They do make it sound like 'to increase bike parks we have to decrease car parks' which would be a load of shit, so I do hope this is not what they are trying to imply
    1. cheshirecat's Avatar
      cheshirecat -
      Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
      Yep, but ceaper than Aucks!

      It costs me (maintenance, WOF, etc included) just a little over $60 a month to ride to work. It costs over $180 to take the train or bus.....
      AND they have to subsidise trains and buses, which makes them look like they are going round in a spiral of increasing costs. No wonder they are desparate for income.
    1. Bald Eagle's Avatar
      Bald Eagle -
      Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
      Yep, but ceaper than Aucks!

      It costs me (maintenance, WOF, etc included) just a little over $60 a month to ride to work. It costs over $180 to take the train or bus.....
      That's if the transmetro has a winning "You will get there" option for your daily ticket price.
    1. Paul in NZ's Avatar
      Paul in NZ -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
      That's if the transmetro has a winning "You will get there" option for your daily ticket price.
      You mean a 'Will you get there?' lottery ticket....
    1. riffer's Avatar
      riffer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
      You mean a 'Will you get there?' lottery ticket....

      But hey, what about that scenery?
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
      But hey, what about that scenery?
      Like...the back of that fat chicks head coz there is only standing/crush room left after Naenae?????
    1. Str8 Jacket's Avatar
      Str8 Jacket -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
      That's if the transmetro has a winning "You will get there" option for your daily ticket price.
      Not to mention the fact that I would get soaking wet walking to the train station and while wating for said train. THEN, you get even more wet walking from the train station to work!

      I stay drier by riding my bike wearing coduras and riding...
    1. riffer's Avatar
      riffer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
      They do make it sound like 'to increase bike parks we have to decrease car parks' which would be a load of shit, so I do hope this is not what they are trying to imply

      There is no implication at all. This bit is quite clear. WCC do not official believe that there is any space left in the city which can be converted to bike parks, therefore to create more bike parks they would have to convert car parks.

      Here's a suggestion. Why don't we create a new thread? Call it potential new bike parks. there are plenty of areas in Welly city where we could safely and conveniently park motorcycles. How's about people take pics of areas in Wellington City they believe could be converted to bike parks and place them here so that we can present some evidence to Council on February 1?
    1. caseye's Avatar
      caseye -
      Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
      There is no implication at all. This bit is quite clear. WCC do not official believe that there is any space left in the city which can be converted to bike parks, therefore to create more bike parks they would have to convert car parks.

      Here's a suggestion. Why don't we create a new thread? Call it potential new bike parks. there are plenty of areas in Welly city where we could safely and conveniently park motorcycles. How's about people take pics of areas in Wellington City they believe could be converted to bike parks and place them here so that we can present some evidence to Council on February 1?


      At Last an idea of note that could become the first positive thing in this thread.
      Go forth you Wellyit's and take pics, be sensible, if it can be done without huge expense it could well be done.
      Play hard but fair lets see how you go.
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
      At Last an idea of note that could become the first positive thing in this thread.
      Go forth you Wellyit's and take pics, be sensible, if it can be done without huge expense it could well be done.
      Play hard but fair lets see how you go.
      Someone get the little annex thats got the cute iron fence cordoning off that spot at the western end of Courtenay Place right beside the old (I mean OLD) public loo building

      On corner of Taranaki st

      I used to park my bikes there when visiting the Holder of the Reigns at her work

      :-)
      Fit 6 bikes in it no sweat!
    1. swbarnett's Avatar
      swbarnett -
      Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
      How's about people take pics of areas in Wellington City they believe could be converted to bike parks and place them here so that we can present some evidence to Council on February 1?
      Damn good idea. Be even better if a bike is in the space demonstrating the lack of interference with anything non bike.



      Phottshop out the plate though.
    1. all4A50s's Avatar
      all4A50s -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
      http://www.wellington.govt.nz/news/d...em.php?id=4281

      Statement from the Council Website.

      Cheers
      So if there is that many bikes how about letting us park off the street, where we used to park.

      Quote Originally Posted by cheshirecat View Post
      AND they have to subsidise trains and buses, which makes them look like they are going round in a spiral of increasing costs. No wonder they are desparate for income.
      They could earn heaps by fining the private vehicles with only one person in them.

      Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
      But hey, what about that scenery?
      Last time i could see anything due to nodding off it was so hot and the windows being all fogged up.

      Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
      At Last an idea of note that could become the first positive thing in this thread.
      Go forth you Wellyit's and take pics, be sensible, if it can be done without huge expense it could well be done.
      Play hard but fair lets see how you go.
      Yes easy answer, free, less work for their staff and contracted services and will resolve the parking issue of so many bikes coming in. LET US PARK WHERE WE USED TO.

      Does anyone know with the increase in motorcycles coming into town, if there has been and how much of a decrease in other forms of transport being used. If the council are using the figures showing an increase in motorcycles traveling into town surely there must be figures showing decreases in other forms of transportation.
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by all4A50s View Post
      Does anyone know with the increase in motorcycles coming into town, if there has been and how much of a decrease in other forms of transport being used. If the council are using the figures showing an increase in motorcycles traveling into town surely there must be figures showing decreases in other forms of transportation.
      I know from the data I have been recieving from various sources (eg NZTA, MOT etc) that ALL forms of transport are up in usage factors

      Trains/busses already at peak capacity (catch a train you'll see) MORE cars and MORTE motorcycles and MORE cyclists accross the board

      The population is growing so more people are commuting to and from...
      Its the single occupant cars that piss me off....give a mate a ride, share the bloody road

      Anyway, who better to identify where a bike can park than bikers?
      I like the idea we submit the locations, I do not think council are shirking a responsibility at all this is cooperation IMO
    1. oneofsix's Avatar
      oneofsix -
      Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
      I know from the data I have been recieving from various sources (eg NZTA, MOT etc) that ALL forms of transport are up in usage factors

      Trains/busses already at peak capacity (catch a train you'll see) MORE cars and MORTE motorcycles and MORE cyclists accross the board

      The population is growing so more people are commuting to and from...
      Its the single occupant cars that piss me off....give a mate a ride, share the bloody road
      Yeah more parking for bikes, they are at least 50% occupied, throw on the bag with the work stuff in and it over 50%
    1. Scuba_Steve's Avatar
      Scuba_Steve -
      Hey since this is somewhat to do with the topic, A Spyder in a bike park acceptable??? Cause right now there's one parked in the bike parks outside our building, personally I think it should have a ticket issued 1. because it is more car than bike & 2. because he takes up about 3 bike parks, but what's everyone else's thought???
    1. bogan's Avatar
      bogan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
      Hey since this is somewhat to do with the topic, A Spyder in a bike park acceptable??? Cause right now there's one parked in the bike parks outside our building, personally I think it should have a ticket issued 1. because it is more car than bike & 2. because he takes up about 3 bike parks, but what's everyone else's thought???
      spyders/trikes are bike too, as far as i know they have motorcycle registration, require a motorcycle license to ride, and you gotta get geared up to ride em too, if you're just protesting about the size, what next, goldwings?
    1. oneofsix's Avatar
      oneofsix -
      Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
      Hey since this is somewhat to do with the topic, A Spyder in a bike park acceptable??? Cause right now there's one parked in the bike parks outside our building, personally I think it should have a ticket issued 1. because it is more car than bike & 2. because he takes up about 3 bike parks, but what's everyone else's thought???
      What are they registered as? I know they are advertised as "ride with a car license" so I would presume they register as a car?
    1. Scuba_Steve's Avatar
      Scuba_Steve -
      Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
      spyders/trikes are bike too, as far as i know they have motorcycle registration, require a motorcycle license to ride, and you gotta get geared up to ride em too, if you're just protesting about the size, what next, goldwings?
      No they are ridden on car licences but I do think you need a helmet, guess the real question is what they are Reg under I have a feeling that might actually be car too
    1. oneofsix's Avatar
      oneofsix -
      Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
      No they are ridden on car licences but I do think you need a helmet, guess the real question is what they are Reg under I have a feeling that might actually be car too
      don't be lazy, walk across and have a look
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