Stolen Bikes!

[Mom]

Makes no difference to me whether they are super expensive sports bikes or a cheap and cheerful heap of crap commuter or something in between. I dont care if it is an off road unregistered hell for leather dirt bike or a kids little put/put two wheeler. The fact it is chrome as far as the eye can see that you have waited forever to get or spent a fortune on personalising it to your taste, or its older cousin, the loud and obnoxious bleck one is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

Reading here recently has really highlighted how prevalant bike theft is.

Obviously we all take what we deem to be ok security, or we take none at all, or somewhere in between.

How do we stop our pride and joy bikes from being stolen?

Any of you been offered cheap parts?

Any of you been offered a deal too good to be true?

Any of you seen cheap parts on Tard me?

There has to be a market for stolen bikes/parts. We are bikers, ergo we are the market?

So who is buying this stuff??

Discuss...

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

I remember reading a bike mag in the uk and they did a page spread about bike theft.

They placed some bikes in a busy city centre and just put disc locks on them. Then a white van pulled up and a couple of guys pulled up in a white van and just picked up the bike and put it in the van! Alarm going and people watching but no one did a thing!

basic point was that disc locks are ok for preventing the odd opportunist but people targeting bikes will pinch them very easily unless securly anchored against something hard to move.

[Headbanger]

Bikes are easy to pinch no matter what you lock them to, Mine is in a vault, multiple padlocks,chains and steel bars. Probably slow some one down for less then 10 minutes if they were keen to get it and had the right tools.

Lets hope the company that monitors the alarm is on the ball.

Best bet is to keep em out of sight.

as for the original post, I have no idea, I don't associate with bike thieves.

[lostinflyz]

i just saw my neighboors car cabled and locked to his concrete fence. ohh what a world we live in.

if people want a bike they will take it. but a few basic things can stop the younger "insert stereotype" theives (i.e. discs locks/padlocks)

Ive noticed you cant rely on anyone to notice anything and that a well hidden bike is just about always safer than a well secured exposed one

[Mom]

I remember reading a bike mag in the uk and they did a page spread about bike theft.

They placed some bikes in a busy city centre and just put disc locks on them. Then a white van pulled up and a couple of guys pulled up in a white van and just picked up the bike and put it in the van! Alarm going and people watching but no one did a thing!

basic point was that disc locks are ok for preventing the odd opportunist but people targeting bikes will pinch them very easily unless securly anchored against something hard to move.

i just saw my neighboors car cabled and locked to his concrete fence. ohh what a world we live in.

if people want a bike they will take it. but a few basic things can stop the younger "insert stereotype" theives (i.e. discs locks/padlocks)

Ive noticed you cant rely on anyone to notice anything and that a well hidden bike is just about always safer than a well secured exposed one

Excellent stuff, but who buys the bikes/bits?

Yes we all take what we accept as our minimum security. Yes, society does not give a shit on the whole, though maybe turn a blind eye is becomg the "safest" option. Read the news some day, I dont blame people for ignoring things.

Where is the market?

[98tls]

Not sure where the market is but have found a dog to be the best way of keeping my bike safe in the garage,if he can hear a hedgehog out in the back yard he will hear a low-life bike thief for sure.

[MIZXR]

David Carter, a Christchurch MP, a few years ago told my parents after one of my bikes was flogged that without theft there would be no second hand market so guess why they let the crims away.

[madbikeboy]

Hi Mom, hope you're not on the recieving end...

I agree with the notion that the parts must be turning up on trademe, or in a pub, or whatever. By purchasing those cheap fairings (or whatever) you're supporting the lifestyle of the chain of scumbags who ripped them from one of your fellow bikers homes/workplaces etc.

I'm trialling a new GPS / tracking device on my scoot. We are trialling the device to ensure that it doesn't cause any problems with the bike. The cool thing is that I now have telemetry for track days, so I can measure speed, braking forces, aceleration etc. Even better, when I'm sitting at work I can see where my precious is.

The people who are supplying the unit are a bunch of really good buggers, and once we are sure that there are no worries, we'll be selling them.

The units aren't cheap - and before anyone PM's me telling me there are cheaper alternatives (which there are, but $20 disk locks seem to fall short) - compare the cost to your insurance premium, or in my case, work out how much time and effort has gone into tuning, modifying, and set up, and the price is actually very reasonable.

More news to follow.

Mom, good on you for saying it out loud.

[MIZXR]

All well and good but how do you get the bike back?

The cops. I had a bike stolen and it was located by a truck driver I knew In the time it took for the filth to get there the could have striped the bike, sold the gear and taken a flight to England.

A GPS tracker won't help this and NZ won't allow the victim to go get it so....?

[Mom]

All well and good but how do you get the bike back?

The cops. I had a bike stolen and it was located by a truck driver I knew In the time it took for the filth to get there the could have striped the bike, sold the gear and taken a flight to England.

A GPS tracker won't help this and NZ won't allow the victim to go get it so....?

Fuct indeed! So where is the market for these ripped machines? Apologies for repeating myself, and this was not directed at you.

Perhaps I should have headed this up...cheap GSXR parts and placed it it the online trading section of the forum. Bet I would have been over run by offers to buy shit!

[Conquiztador]

Sadly nothing new under the sun. Horses used to be stolen.

Own a bike and be prepared to walk out to an empty spot.

What to do? No idea. My solutions would put me in jail.

Only things I have managed to come up with are:
- Own some crap that nobody wants.
- Own such a customised bike that nothing can be sold of it
- Sleep with her and have her at arms length 24/7
- Be in a patched gang. A seriously bad ass one.
- Insurance (a good one!)
- Be known for beating the shit outta anyone who even looks at her.
- Be so rich that it does not matter
- Be so wasted that you don't care
- Just steal another one...

Also, earlier:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...+alarms&page=3

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...+alarms&page=3

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ht=bike+alarms

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ht=bike+alarms

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ht=bike+alarms

And there is heaps more.

[Ixion]

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There has to be a market for stolen bikes/parts. We are bikers, ergo we are the market?

So who is buying this stuff??

Discuss...

Not necessarily. Some stuff like engines ends up in non bike areas (eg karts). Some bikes (chookchasers) are sold no questions asked to people who ride them (eg farnmers) but aren't really bikers. And I suspect that harley stuff and such like may go off shore.

Not much can be sone about it. Hard to say the the guy in the helmet fiddling with his ignition or disk lock is actually stealing it. Loading it ina avn, well , yeah I'd ask. Just innocent like "Oh , having a bit of trouble mate, anything I can do to help.". Clicky clicky clicky phone camera. *555 might be a starter.

Of course, if we *catch* the bastards, then that's another matter .

Old rule, is don't let it out of sight.

Maybe BRONZ might have a word with the cops. Anyone know if theres a bike-pinching squad or anything? Sort of a bit specialised, you'd think there might be. If there isn't there should be.

[Conquiztador]

I have asked this on here before, but never got any answers:

Is there a PI or such in NZ that specialises in bike recovery?

[CB ARGH]

My bike jacket (Revit RS2 Leather Jacket)seemed too good to be true. $899 brand new in the store... the jacket looked less than a year old and he too $300 for it. I didn't really care, it was cheap. Thankfully I haven't had to go buy many parts for the bike, all my parts were brand spanking new!

[Forest]

David Carter, a Christchurch MP, a few years ago told my parents after one of my bikes was flogged that without theft there would be no second hand market so guess why they let the crims away.

I think that quote is back to front.

There wouldn't be theft without a second hand market. Crims steal stuff because (somewhere) there is a market they can sell the parts into.