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    Early Motubikes

    Paparazzi kindly scanned some old photos for me - I thought I'd show you some of my early bikes...get an idea of where I'm coming from.

    We'll start with the glamour bike,the bike that forms the core of how I approach motorcycles,from then on till now,every bike I ride is compared to this one...all fall short.In the late 60s as a teenager we used to go to the scrambles as MX was called in those days,the big Britsh 4 strokes against the European 2 strokes,and the most impressive of all was the Rickman Metisse - they seemed to be always in the air,lofting the front wheel at will and doing big slides out of the turns,I loved the Rickmans.One day after watching a meeting at Mangere Mountain (imagine that,MX in the city,forget that it was a monument,a historic site) and in the carpark was road legal Rickman,a red one...this was outta sight,like seeing a speedway bike on the street,I was sooooo impressed - ''I'm gunna do that one day,gunna ride a Rickman on the road''

    My dream came true in 74/75,I found a 1963 Rickman Metisse minus motor,and I had engine and parts from a wrecked 1973 Triumph Daytona lying around,I was going to put it into something else,but the Rickman was made for this motor,so I built one up out of what parts I had and could find and put it together.Most of the work making it road ready had been done by the previous owner,and the bike had always been registered,so always had a plate (all numbers)it was just a head and tail light,a speedo that never worked and mufflers.Len Perry had once owned the bike and I remember Dave Tompkins riding it.

    I took it to Taranaki almost finished and got it going there - on my first ride on the paddocks to ''run it in'' I was onto it right away,I just knew what it could do right off..we ''fit'' we did.2nd or 3rd gear slides (4 speed box),full lock,rooster tail of grass and cow shit 20ft in the air,then just pick it and toss it right down hard the otherway..full lock 3rd gear figure 8s,again and again - oh,bliss,this bike was paradise! Jumps were fun too,long and low - launch off some hump and drop the rear wheel down,then just power down the paddock standing on the pegs on the rear wheel with a rooster tail out behind.This bike was directly connected to brain and eyes,it just did what you wanted,you never thought it couldn't this,it just did....never lowsided and swapped ends,never highsided and tossed you off,never looped,it was a magic carpet.

    But I wasn't to use this bike too much off road,it was my gravel road bike.I had been riding on gravel for a few years...and it's not easy as you know.I had learned to drive a car fast on gravel,that's easy,but I wanted to do the same with a bike - ride a bike like a rally car.I knew guys who could ride well on gravel,but I wanted to do it faster,with more style,I wanted to flattrack on the road.The Rickman taught me how to do this,well in my mind anyway,not many people saw me doing this...as today,people don't really get into gravel,I hardly ever see any other bikes on my roads,then or now.The long 58in wheelbase meant it could slide really well,but still had quick steering,I never even noticed the front wheel on this bike,I just pointed the bike where I wanted to go and snapped open the throttle,the back wheel spun up and we were off.

    I was an adventure rider before the name was thought of,on all the back roads,lost,going on beaches,up tracks,into forests.Anyway....the bike that's most important to me of all the bikes I've owned.In the photos,all I have of the bike first is as I put it on the road,with high pipes,but I kept burning my legs on them and made some TT pipes going under the engine and coming out splayed in front of the rear wheel,as in the second picture.It originaly had a 19in Velocette rear wheel,as in the first pic,but couldn't gear it up,so fitted a conical Triumph wheel,cutting the sprockets so I could have a Rocket III sprocket for off road and a Trident one for road.In 1977 short hair was certainly not cool,the only guys who had short hair had just been released,but I chopped it all off,not a good look - I'm not happy,the bike has a half short in the zener diode and I haven't figured that out yet.Last shot is me on the Rosebank Speedway,you can't tell,but I'm pretty well crossed up.
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    geez, you were ugly...... :spudwave:

    just kidding (I still wear flanelette)... cool write-up

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    Interesting read and pics

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    IM SHOCKED!!! YOU DONT HAVE A MOUSTACHE OR WHITE HAIR!!! Good write up and nice photos
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    Cool - real cool

    I remember the Rickmans. But they were way beyond what I could afford then

    The Enfield Rickman was the one I lusted after.

    Yeah, it was good in those days. You could go trail riding heaps of palces within 15 minutes ride of home in Auckland.

    And the MOT were pretty good about truning a blind eye to dubiously legal bikes heading to the dirt.

    And heaps of good gravel roads then too. Nowdays everythings sealed, which gets a bit boring. I hate it when a nice road gets sealed, theres almost no gravel roads around Auckland now. Takes all the interest out of it, and attracts the bunnies
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    So what happened to the bike? You still got it? Know of its history if you sold it?

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    How about another couple,just to show you sports bike guys I'm not that biased.This is what was called a Triton - a wideline Norton Featherbed with a Triumph engine,this one a 61 650 engine and gearbox.Mathew McCahon originaly built it as a beach racer - whenever he saw me on it he would crack up,he reckon he tossed it together out of junk and didn't beleive it could still run,but the owner before me rebuilt it from the ground up.Back then everyone rode a chop,apehangers,chrome etc,this bike was matt black with a red frame (it went through a Coke machine spray booth),years ahead of any Honda colour scheme,so I was kinda out of place....as usual.

    Had all the fruit - Bonny cams,pistons,sometimes twin carbs,swept back pipes,central oil tank,glass tank with big cutouts for the clipons,rearsets - the original Cafe Racer,in a class of my own.Far better handling than anything on the road at the time,kinda lost on a 19 yr old,but I thought I was shit hot,coulda cleaned up Ago but he was too scared and never came to NZ to take up the challange....guess we all been there eh?
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    Good lord, reading this reminded me of a jawa that i had my first riding lessons on (one with real gears) had to drop a 4'' nail into a hole in the head light for a key! and the kick start flopped down and became the gear leaver... oh how things have changed, had a load of fun on that bike, mmm where did i put my bowl of sherry and glass of mince???..

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    good writeup, enjoyed the read & nice to see some pics of earlier bikes & hear of Your early days on the riding scene.
    ..it's another red light nightmare..

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    Nice pics and write up. It's nice to know there's someone even older than me out there.

    It's always interesting to look back at what we used to ride on, and what sort of gear we used to ride in. Now those weren't stubbies were they?

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    Great write up indeed......reminds me i should get this finished.


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    OMG. I remember those weird gearlever/kickstarts now

    Quote Originally Posted by Enn
    Good lord, reading this reminded me of a jawa that i had my first riding lessons on (one with real gears) had to drop a 4'' nail into a hole in the head light for a key! and the kick start flopped down and became the gear leaver... oh how things have changed, had a load of fun on that bike, mmm where did i put my bowl of sherry and glass of mince???..
    I'd forgotten all about them - indeed forgotten almost everything about the unlamented Jawa's I owned (I can only plead insanity as my defence for owning them in the first place)
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu
    How about another couple,just to show you sports bike guys I'm not that biased.This is what was called a Triton - a wideline Norton Featherbed with a Triumph engine,this one a 61 650 engine and gearbox.
    Iron head on a '61 ? Or is it just the photo?

    How many head gaskets did you blow?. I used to be able to get home on my Speed Twin having blown yet another head gasket on the way home, pull the head and replace the gasket that night, and ride to work the next morning. As a matter of routine!
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu
    How about another couple,just to show you sports bike guys I'm not that biased.This is what was called a Triton - a wideline Norton Featherbed with a Triumph engine,this one a 61 650 engine and gearbox.Mathew McCahon originaly built it as a beach racer - whenever he saw me on it he would crack up,he reckon he tossed it together out of junk and didn't beleive it could still run,but the owner before me rebuilt it from the ground up.Back then everyone rode a chop,apehangers,chrome etc,this bike was matt black with a red frame (it went through a Coke machine spray booth),years ahead of any Honda colour scheme,so I was kinda out of place....as usual.

    Had all the fruit - Bonny cams,pistons,sometimes twin carbs,swept back pipes,central oil tank,glass tank with big cutouts for the clipons,rearsets - the original Cafe Racer,in a class of my own.Far better handling than anything on the road at the time,kinda lost on a 19 yr old,but I thought I was shit hot,coulda cleaned up Ago but he was too scared and never came to NZ to take up the challange....guess we all been there eh?
    Are you coming to the 'Naki, you slackarse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    I remember the Rickmans.
    Yeah, me too.
    First few scrambles (motocross) events I went to there were Rickmans, CCMs, etc. and even a few Jap bikes, which seemed really crap in comparison.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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