BIker down harbour bridge

[Blackbird]

Jim 2 has made a telling point about "fault". I did an advanced road riders course a couple of years back as I'd never had a peer review and I'm not ashamed to admit that I had more than a few faults to correct. I'm sure I've slipped back again and need to constantly remind myself of a few fundamentals. One of them is the 12 second rule and also fits in with Vifferman's comments. The rule means that you should be scanning ahead for problems/hazards a distance equivalent to what you would cover in 12 seconds at your current speed.

[flyin]

hope the rider makes a speedy recovery!!

Woah!! imagine that sitting in a cage in traffic..... screech of brakes then a fully armoured biker flies through the car.............. flag that!!

They have a few hidden Que lights signs round welly, hutt valley, i believe theres a set of orange flashie ones at the start of the terrace tunnel ( i had an incident in a cage on this corner a few yrs back now failing to stop for traffic in the tunnel doing 50 for fun.........)

[flyin]

havn't heard the 12 second rule but that sounds plenty sensible. alot like an aeroplane - dont let it take you anywhere your mind hasn't already been 2mins (12sec on a bike) before

[Ixion]

Thats why you are always supposed to maintain 2 seconds of distance between the vehicle in front AND 2 SECONDS BETWEEN YOU AND THE VEHICLE BEHIND. You cannot rely on the vehicle behind to keep a safe distance so if he is tailgating you then you simply keep 4 seconds of breaking distance between you and the car ahead.

Yes, though best to assume that a tailgater is by definition and idiot, and allow some extra for an idiot factor.

The other thing is that I think the 2 second rule assumes the vehicle in FRONT of you is applying it also. If HE is tailgating the vehicle in front of HIM you need to allow extra also - ie you can't rely on him having a stop distance.

All of which is a bit theoretical in Dorkland traffic where Wally will zoom into even a one second gap.

[750Y]

... It was a black '04 CBR 1000 RR. Don't know about the damages on the bike yet but I'd imagine fucked forks, buckled wheels etc etc at minimum.

Cheers!

hmmm i hope it's not who i think it is...

[Motoracer]

hmmm i hope it's not who i think it is...

Na it's not man.

[Lias]

If i was that bloke, and I'd just gone through two bloody windscreens my first stop after A&E would be the lotto shop!

[FROSTY:Me]

As a rule i do ride as though there are NO sensible riders/drivers

[jrandom]

As a rule i do ride as though there are NO sensible riders/drivers

Including yourself?

[SPman]

All of which is a bit theoretical in Dorkland traffic where Wally will zoom into even a one second gap.

One second gap! Luxury! From my observation - if a car will actually fit, with , maybe a metre either end, some Dorkus Stupidus Fuckwitus, will attempt to intricate himself therein!

[Ixion]

One second gap! Luxury! From my observation - if a car will actually fit, with , maybe a metre either end, some Dorkus Stupidus Fuckwitus, will attempt to intricate himself therein!

Gee there must be just a bunch of nanas when you go out on the muddleway. Fancy needing a metre at each end, the good folks around me only need a centimetre.

Whereupon :

Wally 1 in Lane A "Oh look a gap, I must dive into that" Dives
Wally 2 in Lane B " Oh look , a gap just vacated by that guy ; I must dive into that" Dives.
Wally 3 in Lane A (originally behind Wally1 ) " Oh look a gap in lane B. I must dive into that " Dives
Wally 3 in Lane B (originally behind Wally 2 now behind Wally 1) " Oh look a gap. I must dive into that" Dives
.....
.... Rinse lather repeat all the way back down the queue.

Quite soon all the wallys that were in lane A are in lane B and vice versa. No one has actually made any progress forward.

Sigh.

[justsomeguy]

Gee there must be just a bunch of nanas when you go out on the muddleway. Fancy needing a metre at each end, the good folks around me only need a centimetre.

Whereupon :

Wally 1 in Lane A "Oh look a gap, I must dive into that" Dives
Wally 2 in Lane B " Oh look , a gap just vacated by that guy ; I must dive into that" Dives.
Wally 3 in Lane A (originally behind Wally1 ) " Oh look a gap in lane B. I must dive into that " Dives
Wally 3 in Lane B (originally behind Wally 2 now behind Wally 1) " Oh look a gap. I must dive into that" Dives
.....
.... Rinse lather repeat all the way back down the queue.

Quite soon all the wallys that were in lane A are in lane B and vice versa. No one has actually made any progress forward.

Sigh.

............. this is so true....

I see it all the time everyday..... bunch of fucktards all of em.......

[moggy]

As a rule i do ride as though there are NO sensible riders/drivers

In the training before taking my test, I was told to ride as if everyone was out to kill you. Pretty good philosophy I think.

[Marmoot]

hmmm i hope it's not who i think it is...

we be thinking of same person eh?

[HDTboy]

One second gap! Luxury! From my observation - if a car will actually fit, with , maybe a metre either end, some Dorkus Stupidus Fuckwitus, will attempt to intricate himself therein!

i agree completely