Licence Fraud

[Krusti]

Was in at Pak N Save the other day and the check out girl asked if I had any id for my cheque. I told her "No my wifes photocopying my licence so I can get $400"

Made her look for a second

Ya had to be there

[Ixion]

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If you think NZ is corrupt, try bribing a NZ Customs Service officer at a port of entry. You may want to bring some KY jelly with you, because they sure as hell aren't going to use any when they cavity search you, then put you on a flight back to where you came from.

Actually, that is itself corruption. There are other sorts of corruption beside bribery. The abuse of official powers for personal vengenence or to inflict "punishment" not sanctioned by the courts (which is exactly what you are saying would happen here ) is corruption. A State authority which would consider the misuse of official powers as normal could be said to be a corrupt one. If there were no legitmate gronds for the cavity search before the attenpted bribe , then there can be none afterward.

[James Deuce]

Actually, that is itself corruption. There are other sorts of corruption beside bribery. The abuse of official powers for personal vengenence or to inflict "punishment" not sanctioned by the courts (which is exactly what you are saying would happen here ) is corruption. A State authority which would consider the misuse of official powers as normal could be said to be a corrupt one. If there were no legitmate gronds for the cavity search before the attenpted bribe , then there can be none afterward.

Yes I know. I was just being a bastard.

Allow me a LITTLE poetic license!

[Wolf]

If there were no legitmate gronds for the cavity search before the attenpted bribe , then there can be none afterward.

Well, If I were a Customs Official and someone tried bribing me, I'd surmise they had something to hide and I would be duty-bound to go hunting for contraband...

*evil grin*

[Pixie]

Ooooh! touch-eeee!!!!

Good points but those guys haven't handed out a "Licence to Kill" to any incompetent that wanted one.

I guess the offending party was an "ernie" from your comments?

Speaking of "licences to kill"How many days per year of fire-arms training do cops get these days? 3? 10? No wonder they put rounds through their feet with monotonous regularity.

[Pixie]

You got it. What has realy pissed me off with this licence scam is that they are prepared to put drivers out on the road and endanger the citizens of a country that gave them a second chance. If any of these arsholes have NZ citizenship I hope it is taken off them. Probably not possible. And what about those Asians who knowingly knew what they were doing when they paid up the $400 plus. Just watch the Government run from that one.

Skyryder

They still put such drivers on the road,even when they've passed all the tests

[Pixie]

What! They're getting licences to go faster than 100 kph now! Where can I buy 1?

In Italy certain people (I saw a Sixty Minutes item on Lamborghini)such as factory test drivers do get "unlimited" licences.
They showed the Lambo passing a farm truck at over 250 km/h on a country road

[Pixie]

That's only cos they combined the two about twelve years ago and MOT officers became cops overnight. Is that not correct?

And they didn't have to have 50% of their brains removed upon joining

[Sniper]

Speaking of "licences to kill"How many days per year of fire-arms training do cops get these days? 3? 10? No wonder they put rounds through their feet with monotonous regularity.

When was the last time they did that and no they do an AQS and a shooting session quarterly

[Lou Girardin]

Ooooh! touch-eeee!!!!

Good points but those guys haven't handed out a "Licence to Kill" to any incompetent that wanted one.

I guess the offending party was an "ernie" from your comments?

What's an ernie?

[wkid_one]

He He he - this kinda reminds me of the sort of conversation you get in a Counterstrike game.....although slightly less intelligent...

[Lou Girardin]

Actually, that is itself corruption. There are other sorts of corruption beside bribery. The abuse of official powers for personal vengenence or to inflict "punishment" not sanctioned by the courts (which is exactly what you are saying would happen here ) is corruption. A State authority which would consider the misuse of official powers as normal could be said to be a corrupt one. If there were no legitmate gronds for the cavity search before the attenpted bribe , then there can be none afterward.

Very true, corruption can also be the politicising of a Police force.

[Ixion]

Very true, corruption can also be the politicising of a Police force.

Very much so. And that sophisticated corruption can be much more dangerous that a copper who takes a folded banknote. Ironically, in countries where cops and officials take bribes, this probably protects the people from political type corruption. Since the effects of the latter, despite orders from on high, can be negated by paying off the officers who must enforce the orders.

Thus it is that the relative incorruptability of the "coal face" ranks of our police and other services makes the corruption of the higher echelons so much more dangerous.

At the risk of having Godwin's Law quoted at me, I will point out that what made the Gestapo so dangerous was that they were *not* corrupt.

I am very certain that neither threat nor promise would persuade Mr Spudchuka or any of his collegues to deviate from their duty. I am less confidant of his Commissioner's resistance to Ministerial threats or persuasions.