Ahhhh, anti-biking mother

**PirateJafa** · 21st June 2009, 21:55

Originally Posted by Ixion

I done a course in it. Misery 101.

Ain't that the paper that costs you a gold ring, suit and a big cake to sit?

**Ixion** · 21st June 2009, 21:58

Nope. That's Human Sexuality - Lessons in Disappointment 102.

**ScarFace** · 21st June 2009, 22:17

Thanks guys, all this infomation is helping, I really wana be considerate about this as living at home and 200m away from Uni and Work is friggin sweet, saves me money for a bike

so I dont really wana get kicked out, but i mean shit, its not like Im an alcoholic, chain smoker with a taste for expensive women of the night. I just wana get some kicks another way, save some dosh on fuel, and look cool.

http://www.transport.govt.nz/researc...-Factsheet.pdf

Just had a read of these stats, Im jus gona present them how they are, she cant argue with M.O.T. stats haha,

two people died aged 15-19 due to a motorcycle accident in 2007,

you are twice as likely to crash with a higher cc bike, 500+

71% of the time its not the biker at fault,

45% of the time its due to alcohol, speed, drugs or a combonation of all,

only 21% of crashes involve learner bikers.

Not too sure what my next step is now.....

**Little Miss Trouble** · 21st June 2009, 22:27

Hmm, since you still live at home you do to some extent abide by her rules. Talk to her rationally, explain that you understand her fears and will do everything in your power to reduce the risks. Get the right gear, wear it all the time and get yourself to some proper training.

I had it easy - I'd been out of home for a few years and was already been giving my mum shocks well before then so when I told her I was getting a bike she just accepted it, and even bought some of my gear for me

**LaytonNZ** · 21st June 2009, 22:50

Funny enough i hated bikes untill i was 14 Then i went bike crazy! My mother and farther ride so..it took nothing to get a bike, But there was one condition, i spent 1,5k on gear and at least 300$ on a helmet.

**98tls** · 21st June 2009, 23:03

Originally Posted by ScarFace

Thanks guys, all this infomation is helping, I really wana be considerate about this as living at home and 200m away from Uni and Work is friggin sweet, saves me money for a bike

so I dont really wana get kicked out, but i mean shit, its not like Im an alcoholic, chain smoker with a taste for expensive women of the night. I just wana get some kicks another way, save some dosh on fuel, and look cool.

http://www.transport.govt.nz/researc...-Factsheet.pdf

Just had a read of these stats, Im jus gona present them how they are, she cant argue with M.O.T. stats haha,

two people died aged 15-19 due to a motorcycle accident in 2007,

you are twice as likely to crash with a higher cc bike, 500+

71% of the time its not the biker at fault,

45% of the time its due to alcohol, speed, drugs or a combonation of all,

only 21% of crashes involve learner bikers.

Not too sure what my next step is now.....

Wouldnt bother her with stats myself,Theres plenty of riders groups around,find one front up introduce yourself and i have no doubts all will go well,lots of benefits ie good buggers that have done it all before and many that are prepared to go out of there way to help out with sound advice re what bike/how to ride it etc,your mom sounds like a good un so methinks she will understand actions speak louder than words,above all no matter how frustrating it gets take a deep breath and remember in her own way shes just looking out for you.Good luck and post up how it all goes.

**bikerboy011** · 22nd June 2009, 00:25

Well my parents where the same untill i convinced my dad and hey look what he got me

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**sil3nt** · 22nd June 2009, 00:38

My mum was against me getting a bike. But she couldn't do much about it when she was thousands of kilometers away in europe

Now i get lectures about getting the right gear all the time

**CookMySock** · 22nd June 2009, 07:24

Originally Posted by 98tls

Wouldnt bother her with stats myself

I agree. You are much better off to be focused on what YOU can do about issues.

Steve

**wysper** · 22nd June 2009, 07:32

Originally Posted by 98tls

When i was 19 i probably wouldnt have taken any notice of her ranting and gone ahead anyway,but looking back that wouldnt have been the smartest move.Possibly sit her down and go through the motions of having a discussion about it,i guess at the end of the day she loves ya and is just doing what moms do when they love there son..look out for them.Is there an older experianced biker that you know?If so maybe he could be there as well.I wish you luck,above all when it gets frustrating remember shes only looking out for you in the only way she knows how.Moms are good though at times frustrating.

This it good advice. See if you can pick a time when emotions about THIS subject aren't running high. Maybe after dinner one night. And see if you can find out what her concerns really are. Mostly I think it will be that she doesn't want her baby to get hurt.

I am a dad now, my daugter is only 5 and already I am dreading her dating

As a parent I love my kids to bits and don't want them to come to any harm, but some harm is part of living and learning. The key will be to try to keep calm and don't blow up and make it a fight.

Talk about the saftey courses you will be doing, how you know it is a dangerous pasttime but you really want to try it and you will be as responsible and careful as possible. You will bring your mum's baby home safe.

Good luck.

**davebullet** · 22nd June 2009, 07:43

Have you been a reckless youngster? Have you been convicted of drunk driving? Have you crashed their car due to recklessness?

If you have been responsible up until now - remind your mother of that. Talk to her about the dangers. Show her you have done some research (or go and do it). Show your parents you are fully informed (and teach them. You will gain their confidence and approval).

Her concern is a parents one. Meaning instinct more likely than knowledge. If you have proven to her your responsibility with vehicles over the last few years and can sit down and discuss it with her, you will win her over.

Whatever you do, never raise your voice and yell at her. Don't tell her she doesn't understand. Show her you are in control of yourself when discussing with her. Act maturely and you will be given the responsibility.

Best of luck.

**Voltaire** · 22nd June 2009, 07:48

Originally Posted by Motu

When you are a parent yourself you will understand her concern.

Yes, I cringe when I think of the things I did with motor vehicles when I was young.....mind you cars were slow then....Z1000's were not.
Buy all the gear and get insurance, with whats left buy a bike

**BiK3RChiK** · 22nd June 2009, 09:03

Maybe even get some older rider to offer to take her for a little pootle around on the back and she might be next in line for a bike

**HungusMaximist** · 22nd June 2009, 09:18

All I can suggest is that don't be a dick about it and just be responsible as possible. Motorcycling isn't a walk in the park, even with all the stats and the pros you've listed,

Seeing that, I got my first bike in Melbourne so my parents didn't really have any input. When I moved back home in Aucks, one day I just rocked home with a bike, probably not the best example.

Just do what you gotta do, and make sure if you do get a bike, get insurance!