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[Wolf]

I sent:

I heard your stance on how motorcyclists should be mandatory organ donors and should not be given life-saving measures if involved in a nasty accident.

I think the same could be applied to people of sub-normal intellect - those who are basically so stupid that they are a waste of oxygen - but wait...

That'd be you!

Grow a brain-cell, Brian Dickheadson.

While I feel it's bloody crazy not to be wearing a helmet (didn't always feel that way when I was young and foolish) deeming tham to have no rights to medical assistance and decreeing that their organs can be harvested (in contravention of US law which prohibits the unconsentual harvesting of organs) is a tad on the extreme side - and singling out motorcyclists who ride without helmets (what about cagers without seatbelts, anyone exceeding the speed limit, those drunk in charge of a vehicle etc etc) is bigotry plain and simple.

S'pose I should be sympathetic to him, really, he was pimple-faced and too prone to hallitosis and embarrassing rashes as a teen and so wasn't cool enough to ride a bike and now he's twisted up with jealousy and hatred for all those cool dudes who do ride bikes, kinda tragic really - we should send him flowers.

[Skunk]

I sent:

I heard your stance on how motorcyclists should be mandatory organ donors and should not be given life-saving measures if involved in a nasty accident.

I think the same could be applied to people of sub-normal intellect - those who are basically so stupid that they are a waste of oxygen - but wait...

That'd be you!

Grow a brain-cell, Brian Dickheadson.

While I feel it's bloody crazy not to be wearing a helmet (didn't always feel that way when I was young and foolish) deeming tham to have no rights to medical assistance and decreeing that their organs can be harvested (in contravention of US law which prohibits the unconsentual harvesting of organs) is a tad on the extreme side - and singling out motorcyclists who ride without helmets (what about cagers without seatbelts, anyone exceeding the speed limit, those drunk in charge of a vehicle etc etc) is bigotry plain and simple.

S'pose I should be sympathetic to him, really, he was pimple-faced and too prone to hallitosis and embarrassing rashes as a teen and so wasn't cool enough to ride a bike and now he's twisted up with jealousy and hatred for all those cool dudes who do ride bikes, kinda tragic really - we should send him flowers.

Pity you didn't read his story instaed of the AMA story eh?

[Ixion]

Pity you didn't read his story instaed of the AMA story eh?

No harm. The message is still good. Do not meddle in the affairs of bikers for they are savage and quick to anger.

[Paul in NZ]

I feel kinda stink now that I sent my internet wrath to that guy before getting the full story.

well I suppose thats what the internet is all about. scathing flame-mails sent from under-informed people with too much time.

at least I used the polite insult method instead of fuxkors yuo teh suxor and r dumb!!!111

Well you could always applogise?

just a thought....

[Paul in NZ]

I don't actually agree with organ donation, or transplants, so I guess it stops right there for me.

Spoken like a man with all his functions intact...

[2_SL0]

Don't know about you guys but I read the original story at Detroit Free Press and got a different view of what he was saying to that of the AMA...
Another 'bite sized snippet' of the whole story...

I agree its been taken out of context.

[madboy]

I read the AMA story - Brian is a completely idiot.

Then I read Brian's column... ummm, I agree with him. What he's saying is that if you choose to ride without a helmet then you should be a compulsory organ donor and denied lifesavings medical treatment. Well - I'd be pretty damned unimpressed if my hard earned taxes were paying for some oxygen thief who banged up his bike without a helmet and scrambled his eggs!!

[pyrocam]

Well you could always applogise?

just a thought....

'apologise?' what is 'apologise?' sorry I dont speak german :P

nah once I sent it and read through the other stuff I decided it was still in relevancy. chances are he doesnt read them anyway as he would have heaps of pissed of bikers emailing him.

[Wolf]

Pity you didn't read his story instaed of the AMA story eh?

Did read his full column afterwards.

While I agree that riding without a helmet is boneheaded (pun intended, not necessarily successful), and I agree that those who ride without helmets for no good reason are asking for trouble, I still disagree with his sensationalist approach to the subject (comparisons with Kevorkian etc) and his automatic assumption that there is going to be a massive increase in people riding around without helmets, having accidents and costing their taxpayers money.

1) The bikers have to decide to take "advantage" of the law change - if they made helmets voluntary here tomorrow, I would still wear one under most circumstances because I am mindful that my head is not armoured. I feel kinda naked without full protective gear these days. I'd bet (judging by the posts here) a lot of people here would feel the same way and I suspect a lot of those in America would agree. I don't think he'd be seeing the streets suddenly flooded with bare-headed bikers.

2) They've got to have an accident. Not wearing a helmet does not make them any more or less prone to accidents than anyone else. Admittedly they'd be at greater risk of injury in an accident than anyone who is wearing a helmet - but they've got to come off first.

3) His column notes that the Senate also voted that every biker - not just those who are not wearing a helmet - must have medical insurance, so they're paying for their own medical bills anyway. And if I were a money grubbing scum sucking insurance company (Oops, sorry - an intelligent company hoping to off-set reasonably expected losses) I would make sure that the bikers who choose to ride without helmets would be paying a damn-sight bigger premium than those who wear helmets.

So my assessment still stands - he needs to grow a brain cell.

[inlinefour]

I'm going to air my opinion. Be as it may be different to some others.

I think that helmet laws are a great thing. As a trainee RN I have got to see many motorbike accident victims. Yes those who ride without a helmet are putting themselves at risk, but lests face it. Its exactly the same as cagers who drive without a seat belt.
Now ask yourself this. Do you ever do any dangerous activity that increases your chances of being seriously injured? I do, its called sports and often my everyday life can result in being in hazerdous situations and then there it the topic of my work, dealing with acutely psychotic people at times.
For someone else to state that anyone indulging in a dangerous activity should not be given the opportunity of medical care is farking pathetic and those individuals should have a good look at themselves. At the end of the day Brian Dickerson is probably just some 2nd rate columnist who was worried about his job. So he started this shite to save his job. Hell the wanker might as well run for NZ Government as this sort of bullshit is common place there...

Right, I've going to air my opinion. Be as it may be different to some others.
I'm happy for people to disagree with my views but have to ask, whats next apartite(sp)?

[Motu]

2) They've got to have an accident. Not wearing a helmet does not make them any more or less prone to accidents than anyone else. Admittedly they'd be at greater risk of injury in an accident than anyone who is wearing a helmet - but they've got to come off first.
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Those foaming at the mouth types who say anyone not wearing a helmet is going to be killed in the worst possible way and is mentaly impared don't get this little statement,it's all in the hands of the rider.90% of those on this site have never ridden legaly without a helmet - I spent the 3 most stupid years of my life on a motorcycle not wearing a helmet - bugger,and I'm still here! Of course I always wear one now,and shit,I'm STILL here!

[Wolf]

Now ask yourself this. Do you ever do any dangerous activity that increases your chances of being seriously injured? I do, its called sports

Yeah. I've done less damage to myself arsing off my bike than I've noted in rugby players - but then again, I was wearing armour and I only hit the tarmac at 50-100km/h, whereas they don't wear armour and hit/got hit by fuck-knows-what.

then there it the topic of my work, dealing with acutely psychotic people at times.

Since when have you dealt with me?

[inlinefour]

Yeah. I've done less damage to myself arsing off my bike than I've noted in rugby players - but then again, I was wearing armour and I only hit the tarmac at 50-100km/h, whereas they don't wear armour and hit/got hit by fuck-knows-what.


Since when have you dealt with me?

Do you need dealing with? I'm sure they will look after you well up there in Hamilton(PT)

[Ixion]

Those foaming at the mouth types who say anyone not wearing a helmet is going to be killed in the worst possible way and is mentaly impared don't get this little statement,it's all in the hands of the rider.90% of those on this site have never ridden legaly without a helmet - I spent the 3 most stupid years of my life on a motorcycle not wearing a helmet - bugger,and I'm still here! Of course I always wear one now,and shit,I'm STILL here!

I have always worn a helmet, including a number of years before they become a legal requirement. But I knew a lot of guys who didn't (most didn't). Never knew anyone injured as a result. (Actually, never had a biking mate who was seriously injured at all)

Don't really agree with the compulsion thing. 'Cos I'm a coward and don't like the idea of getting hurt if I can reduce the risk without a negative side, I will. So always wear helmet, gear, seatbelts. But it should be up to each person to decide, and not wearing a helmet doesn't mean you're as good as dead.

I suspect too many bikers place too much trust in their gear and figure that they can bin it and get away with it. All the helmets and gear in the world won't save you if things go seriously pear shaped. May help, but if you come off at speed it's all in the luck of the biker gods and whatever providence looks after idiots (like me)

[SlashWylde]

Well, I see it as a bit tongue-in-cheek, the guy's just being a bit sensationalistic and in doing so has attracted a lot of attention (international even) to the issue. This is the essence of sucessful journalism.

For what it's worth I aggree with the thrust of the article but not with the jibe that donorcyclists should sign papers declining extraordinary lifesaving measures.

On a related note, I've been dowloading and watching episodes of "The Great Biker Build-Off" lately (got 12 episodes now ) and half the time these jokers featured in the shows aren't wearing a lid. Thus I find it monumentally sad that the legendary Indian Larry should die performing a stunt whilst taking part in a show all about motorcycles, which has made no moves to promote the wearing of helmets even in helmet optional states.

Don't get me wrong I'm not blaming anyone for his untimely demise buy maybe just maybe if helmet laws were universal in the states, Larry would still be with us. Just a thought...