Rekindling the greatest ever bike debate

[xwhatsit]

You do realise that one of my legs weighs as much as you and your bike combined? (and is roughly as powerful)

Centre stands are weight best left on the jack stored in the shed.

In that case you should've fit pedals to that RS125


Guzzi V8 and Y2k have to go. Replace Guzzi V8 with the first MV transverse four, replace Y2k with... anything remotely relevant to motorcycling.

[nudemetalz]

Replace the Guzzi??.....
ooi....how do you !!!

[Big Dave]

I just rang about getting the RS125 back. I want to test it, and I have a cunning plan.

[Edbear]

if you read any contemporary magazine review (of the early Jappers you're on about) written often by aging editors who wrote the original hype-articles back when they were still wet behind the ears ... you will find they admit now that they handled like pigs, and that was when they were new

I recall the Two Wheels test on the GS1000 saying that the Japs were finally beginning to build frames that could handle the engines. There were some good handlers back in the day, the 400 triple Kwaka handled well, the GS Suzuki's, 750 and 1000 and the GT380 triple. Generally, though, the engines overpowered the chassis' for a while. My T500 wasn't too great if hitting a bump mid-corner!

[Big Dave]

>>Replace the Guzzi??.....<<

Yes, whatsit yo' fool. You have to get it going before you can replace it.

[Motu]

if you read any contemporary magazine review (of the early Jappers you're on about) written often by aging editors who wrote the original hype-articles back when they were still wet behind the ears ... you will find they admit now that they handled like pigs, and that was when they were new

I'm sticking to the early '70's when it was said the CB750 (and Toycollector says) out performed everything else.The TT100 tyres and Girling shocks were so far ahead of the garbage Japanese suspension and Bridgestone tyres that it would be suicide for a CB750 to try and keep up with a Trident or Commando.Sure,with 40 years of development you can make a CB750 handle well - but with that same time frame you can make a Trident or Commando put out serious reliable and oil tight power. The CB750 was hyped up out of proportion...mainly in the USA where 1/4 mile times and top speed was all that mattered in road tests.

[toycollector10]

Whatever...Another of my hobbies is collecting 1970's bike magazines. And I own classic Japanese bikes, check my profile. But I have also owned BSA's and have ridden Nortons. When I could get them started. Love those Lucas electrics too.

Imagine the pipe and cloth cap, the tweed and old school respect for "Old Britain" and all of her motorcycles. God Save the Queen old boy.

Japanese bikes hit them full and square between the eyes and they just couldn't take it, just like you mate. Just like Toyota, Nissan and Honda cars prevail over dead ducks GM, Rover, Rolls Royce, Austin, Morris, Jaguar and the list goes on and on.

British crap build and design. Get over it!

[Indiana_Jones]

British crap build and design. Get over it!

You sir, go too far.

Pistols at dawn!

-Indy

[Motu]

Get over it!

Touchy aren't we? Can't handle a bit of truth about Jap Crap?

[Big Dave]

Indy - keep it civil!

[Indiana_Jones]

Indy - keep it civil!

I'm sorry, I got lost in the heat of the moment lol

-Indy

[nudemetalz]

>>Replace the Guzzi??.....<<

Yes, whatsit yo' fool. You have to get it going before you can replace it.

ahhh,...but will the Guzzi be leaking oil like the Trumpy....??

[ducatilover]

Honda mvx250 was the greatest sack of ring a ring puss My spada is by far the best spada I own and that works for me, has for over three years

[toycollector10]

Touchy aren't we? Can't handle a bit of truth about Jap Crap?

You made me do it..didn't you!

Substitute Santiago and the Marine Corps and you have the Japanese bike versus the British old bangers down.




It's an allegory in the third millenium. "We use words like honour, code, loyalty"...And etc but when you and me boil it all down the big Japper versus Brit Metal debate is just all bull-shit. Right?

Each to their own but just don't slag off the Japanese bike if you ain't thrashed one yourself. OK.

[Ixion]

Whatever...Another of my hobbies is collecting 1970's bike magazines. And I own classic Japanese bikes, check my profile. But I have also owned BSA's and have ridden Nortons. When I could get them started. Love those Lucas electrics too.

Imagine the pipe and cloth cap, the tweed and old school respect for "Old Britain" and all of her motorcycles. God Save the Queen old boy.

Japanese bikes hit them full and square between the eyes and they just couldn't take it, just like you mate. Just like Toyota, Nissan and Honda cars prevail over dead ducks GM, Rover, Rolls Royce, Austin, Morris, Jaguar and the list goes on and on.

British crap build and design. Get over it!

I've owned or ridden most of the 60s/70s era Jap bikes (and still do). And owned or ridden most of the 60s/70s era Briddish iron. And still do.

Own both Briddish and Jap bikes of the era. Gotta say, the Brits have the better handling. Maybe the Jappa might stay with them, but the Brit would be a lot more relaxed doing it.

Brakes , now, that's anothe rmatter.

Never had any problem starting British bikes, though.