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    Your next new bike must have ABS!

    Well that's what my wife made a condition of me getting my new bike last year.

    Well after todays journey home in the wet she may well have be right.

    I have never been a big fan of ABS on bikes and always felt that I knew best and could do my own ABS to regain control from a lockup situation. I certainly didn't see the point of ABS for in the dry riding and generally choose not to ride in the wet (except for the work bike). I had thought about removing the ABS fuse however as I had not ever felt it cut in (except once when stopping on gravel) I didn't see the point.

    Coming home this afternoon on SH1 it became quite wet, so I naturally held back a little and kept to a fairly constant speed. I was doing the same speed as the car in front of me however was aware that the gap was pretty large, so I thought I'd close in a little so as to stop someone filling my braking space.

    Well a couple of minutes later some tit decided to fill the now smaller space just as the traffic was starting to slow. He pulled out in front of me, saw the brakelights on the car that had been in front of me and then slammed his brakes on to an almost dead stop. Nice one! I didn't expect that.

    Anyhow, I stamp on the back brake and sweeze the front 'knee jerk reaction' tight. I instantly feel the ABS doing its job. Fantastic. I am stopping really quickly. I then wonder if the guy behend me can do the same? I dip my left shoulder pulling inside said tit then swing right into the now large space infront of him; only pausing to pip my horn so he is able to get a good view of the finger I am giving.

    Back up to 110Kph and home for lunch

    If you do ride in the wet a lot, do think about ABS for your next new bike. Today was the one and only time that it has saved me from a potentially serious misshap.

    Safe riding!

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    I'm sure that there are bikes out there with really good ABS. I just haven't ridden one yet.
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    Oh I wish I could afford a bike with ABS and integrated breaking. Will be quite a few years before the "new" bikes with these features drift down into my price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Oh I wish I could afford a bike with ABS and integrated breaking. Will be quite a few years before the "new" bikes with these features drift down into my price range.
    Integrated breaking is a feature reserved for Cheap Shitters(TM) from China. One suspects you mean integrated braking, hopefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Oh I wish I could afford a bike with ABS and integrated breaking. Will be quite a few years before the "new" bikes with these features drift down into my price range.
    I have seen some cheapy BMWs with ABS however there has been a lot of negative stuff written about the early efforts at ABS.

    I was every impresed (and surprised) by today's experience.

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    2009 cbr600rr seamless abs. well thats what every write up i have read says anyway.

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    Yeah my experiences with the F800S ABS was mixed. Been plenty written on forums about that subject ..more of a soft suspension set-up compromised the ABS from doing it's job some of the time.

    But in saying that, I was very impressed with it in the wet under full on braking! Hard to imagine many riders could do better in a panic situation.

    As ABS gets better each upgrade, it's only a matter of time before most new bikes have it as standard - and we're the better for it.
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    i think i will be getting either a Gixxer 600 or R6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Integrated breaking is a feature reserved for Cheap Shitters(TM) from China. One suspects you mean integrated braking, hopefully.
    Haha. Yes, you are correct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Yeah my experiences with the F800S ABS was mixed. Been plenty written on forums about that subject ..more of a soft suspension set-up compromised the ABS from doing it's job some of the time.

    But in saying that, I was very impressed with it in the wet under full on braking! Hard to imagine many riders could do better in a panic situation.

    As ABS gets better each upgrade, it's only a matter of time before most new bikes have it as standard - and we're the better for it.

    Another interesting twist is that it means we'll have to re-learn emergency breaking. Basically if you have ABS, and something bad happens, you just want to apply full breaking immediately so the ABS system knows it is an emergency and can re-act appropriately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Yeah my experiences with the F800S ABS was mixed. Been plenty written on forums about that subject ..more of a soft suspension set-up compromised the ABS from doing it's job some of the time.

    But in saying that, I was very impressed with it in the wet under full on braking! Hard to imagine many riders could do better in a panic situation.

    As ABS gets better each upgrade, it's only a matter of time before most new bikes have it as standard - and we're the better for it.
    I am aware that the F800s have come in for some criticism, however seeing the big beemers (not seen an F800 yet) perform at RRRS they are pretty bloody impressive. They consistanly out perform all others in the emergency braking.
    Next would have to be the Hondas with linked brakes, though we don't see a lot of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    I am aware that the F800s have come in for some criticism, however seeing the big beemers (not seen an F800 yet) perform at RRRS they are pretty bloody impressive. They consistanly out perform all others in the emergency braking.
    Next would have to be the Hondas with linked brakes, though we don't see a lot of them.
    I read somewhere that BMW have sorted the F800 ABS for the latest naked version - the F800R. They carefully worded their description of the new and improved ABS to not acknowledge that the first version had drawn criticism
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    I have managed to "confuse" my ABS (f800s) on a couple of occaisions.You do learn to "ride "around it ,I know for ceartain it has saved my butt twice now,once in the wet and once in the dry .You do rely on it more than you realise after a while,as I discovered after moving from an R1100s to aprilia Rsv r.Suspension setting does have an effect on the 3rd generation Beemer set up IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I have managed to "confuse" my ABS (f800s) on a couple of occaisions.You do learn to "ride "around it
    Somehow I think that learning to ride around a safety feature is never going to sound "right"
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Another interesting twist is that it means we'll have to re-learn emergency breaking. Basically if you have ABS, and something bad happens, you just want to apply full breaking immediately so the ABS system knows it is an emergency and can re-act appropriately.
    Good point. I need to not take ABS for granted.

    I am no longer cautious on using the back brake for fear of locking up. I haven't felt ABS kick in whilst braking hard, but may be it does and I just don't notice.

    If I were to push hard on a non-ABS bike to the degree of needing heavy braking, I might get a nasty surprise

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