What is the difference...

[bull]

I watched part of the story...only part because my thoughts were..sorry for your lose but, dont point and blame anyone but your son. The father said '' he dosen't blame his son, he blames the car manufacture for producing the cars and the government for allowing these cars into the country''....

They went on to say '' we dont why they we speeding''...
Um, try...because they were racing the other vehicle that got towed along with the rooted car.

Thats the part that i remember the most too - had my 12yr old in the room who also saw it and he was the first to say "crap, its the driver who pushes his foot to make the car go" think im doing ok as a parent so far, followed up with my son about making decisions, from passengers point of view, whether to sound like a pussy telling driver to slow down or end up dead. He saw where i was heading with this.

That father is hurting im sure and can let it go that he blames the cars but deep down you can guarantee that he knows whom was responsible.

[Ixion]

Fuck That. why the fuck should the cops be responsible for providing places for us to go nuts in vehicles? christ, heres two options.
Speedway, there are two wheeled (solo bikes) three wheeled (sidechairs) and four wheeled options. ..

Option 2. and even cheaper. TRACKDAYS. Not that expensive and you can go as fast as you like. film it. put it on youtube, brag to your mates about how fast you went.

Oh, and then there are drag racing meetings held all over the place regularly that anyone can go in.

..l

But many of the young men loosely called "boy racers" are not really into racing at all.

They just want to be able to hang out with some mates , show off their cars, and (if they're lucky) pull a chick.

Now , honestly, all you old folk, cast your minds back. And when I say "Remember a certain Mercury Coupe/Ford Zephyr/Valiant Charger", doesn't it ring a few bells?

Yes sure, they're going to be a bit noisey about it. So send them off somewhere where they're not going to wake people up. Not many folk sleeping along the Te Rapa straight .

And yes, they're obnoxious insufferable smart arses. Gee, I was too at that age.

Most of them aren't looking for anything as serious as organised competative motorsport (some may be into that, and good on them). They just want to hang out , brag to their mates, compare cars, impress the chick with the big tits, have a few beers and go home (preferably with said chick).Actually, pretty much the same as a bunch of bikers after a ride.

Stupid stunts like spreading diesel on the raod - clobber their arses right hard. Hooning around in the small hours where people are trying to sleep, ditto. But I don't think it's fair or natural to expect them to behave like grey cardigan wearing old fossils. I wasn't like that when I was their age. Nor were you. Old heads, young shoulders n stuff.

[davebullet]

........just as there are Motorcyclists and Fuckwits on Motorcycles.

How is the public supposed to tell the difference?

You only need to tell who is an inconsiderate selfish risk taker vs those who are considerate and abide by the law.

As you know, motorcycles encourage pushing the envelope and making one become a fuckwit. There are far more normal and sedate car drivers as a ratio to total car drivers vs. those on motorcycles.

[Squid]

between Boy Racers and Fuckwits on Motorcycles.

There are Car Enthusiasts and there are Boy Racers........

........just as there are Motorcyclists and Fuckwits on Motorcycles.

How is the public supposed to tell the difference?

the fuckwits on motorcycles ride kawasakis or hondas. Usally on one wheel.

When was the last time you saw or heard of a bunch of bikers meeting up to go up and down the local straight peice of road at all hours though? Least we have the decency to find a set of twisties for that sort of carry on.

[Squiggles]

There isnt a difference besides two fewer wheels. Boy racers though, come on, Lets just label them Roadracers.

both are willing to take risks to do something they enjoy

Least we have the decency to find a set of twisties for that sort of carry on.

Is it acceptable then for me to play fuckwit on the twisty roads?...

[Mikkel]

The difference is, obviously, that the boi-racer is a primple faced youf with no respect of the law of the land who's going to spend the rest of his life paying off the fines collected for his anti-social behaviour...

... while the fuckwit biker is full grown man with plenty of tatoos and contacts in the drug dealing circles who will hunt down and brutally maim and kill you and your children if you ever presume to even indicate a mild displeasure with his conduct on the public roads.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

where the cops didn't ping them on the way in for no WOF/REGO, here are the organisations that would save money by doing so...

errr so you still want break the law that every one else has to abide by, by still driving an un-REGOed and un-WOFed car on the road getting to and from the site where you are allowed to do you boy racing????

[gunrunner]

Its easy ... Fuckwits know nothing bout their bikes , enthusiasts maintain and look after theirs .

[Aaron_newrider]

I stopped reading after this.

Police responsibility is to uphold the law. End of.

Do you have any responsibility at all ?

Honest question.

Quick note: I don't have a car or a bike at the moment and am out of my "let's loose my licence for pulling a handbreak" stage.... don't do dumb shit anymore. Used to think drink driving was ok when I was 16 - now I figure it's live vs $40 taxi.

Yeah "boyracers" should have some responsibility, definately, but if we leave the responsibility upto one group of people it never works. Police are there to uphold the law yes totally correct, but there are quite afew instances where police work within the community and if you look at their projects they do around the country this is shown.

For example, I was watching the news and police are asking in one smaller town for party's to have guest lists to judge the size and if there are likely to be problems so appropriate resources can be made avalibale.

[Aaron_newrider]

Sorry - don't know how to break it up so i've used red



the thread you replied doesn't suggest that there is drag-racing at the speedway. it actually suggests drag-racing as option 3

Pointing out the fact that that's what move "boyracers" like to do so the option isin't that attractive to them.

the Police are not responsible for fixing community based problems (as you put it) they are responsible for criminal based issues. the community must be responsible for its own 'civil' issues.

Police work around the country with community based problems all the time - I think you need to look at this link http://www.police.govt.nz/service/community/index.html

back in my day, we didn't google everything we wanted to find out about... we picked up a phone and called (not texted either - voice over copper - old skool) or, or check this, even went and visted personally to find out information.

"Boyracers" aren't going to go to the trouble of finding stuff to be honest, need easy fast information as that's what everything else is like and that's what is expected these days to be honest


thought you were in Parnell, so what does the distance from Mairangi Bay have to do with anything?

I grew up in Mairangi Bay and that's where I would leave from, why pick at that point?

if you can't afford the gas to 'race' legit, how can you afford the gas to 'race' illegal.

Because at the moment they rase illegally down the road 5min from their house, not 140kms return trip away

drag meetings are really quite regular, http://forums.performancecar.co.nz/ would be a good start.
back in the day was Street Meet on the last sunday of every month - easy peasy.

Fantastic - so lets get the message out there to the young hoons and let them know it's on.

[ducatilover]

The difference is a fuckwit biker goes a fuckload faster and requires a rag and spatula to scrape up. Boi-racers take a crane and tow truck. Both are twats, both ruin the name for car enthusiasts and motorcyclists, both do not tend to have any idea of the limitations of the vehicle they are piloting, like the 'thrill' of projecting themselves down a road at a silly speed and have no sense to realise that once they push that little bit extra that lives are in grave danger. I like fast things, but there is a time and place. I'm not preaching from my pedastall, I fell off a few years back and don't have the damn ladder to it anymore I hate the fuckwit cagers / boy racers and dick cheese bikers equally. I do not want to be riding happily one day and get wiped out by a damn eg civic that couldn't pull a turd off my boot driven by some hoodie/cap backwards faggot.

Rant over

[Aaron_newrider]

But many of the young men loosely called "boy racers" are not really into racing at all.

They just want to be able to hang out with some mates , show off their cars, and (if they're lucky) pull a chick.

Now , honestly, all you old folk, cast your minds back. And when I say "Remember a certain Mercury Coupe/Ford Zephyr/Valiant Charger", doesn't it ring a few bells?

Yes sure, they're going to be a bit noisey about it. So send them off somewhere where they're not going to wake people up. Not many folk sleeping along the Te Rapa straight .

And yes, they're obnoxious insufferable smart arses. Gee, I was too at that age.

Most of them aren't looking for anything as serious as organised competative motorsport (some may be into that, and good on them). They just want to hang out , brag to their mates, compare cars, impress the chick with the big tits, have a few beers and go home (preferably with said chick).Actually, pretty much the same as a bunch of bikers after a ride.

Stupid stunts like spreading diesel on the raod - clobber their arses right hard. Hooning around in the small hours where people are trying to sleep, ditto. But I don't think it's fair or natural to expect them to behave like grey cardigan wearing old fossils. I wasn't like that when I was their age. Nor were you. Old heads, young shoulders n stuff.

Totally agree with that stuff there, when I was 16 I remember thinking I was all hot shot and stuff because I had the flashest car. Total little smart arse also

One thing police have done is inform petrol stations that they are not to sell diesel to these kids at night, it's usually pretty obvious what it's for... and you know what, it worked! I was out south one night and heard some guy say he was going to get some, was at the petrol station with a can, and they wouldn't let him buy it. Good work police! Community policing, police fixing community issues.

When 16, If I had the opportunity to go and drag I would have, but I wouldn't have paid more than probably $30 for it, and I wouldn't have risked a full circut race cause i couldnt afford to fix dents and didnt want to dent.

Aaron

[ducatilover]

When 16, If I had the opportunity to go and drag I would have, but I wouldn't have paid more than probably $30 for it, and I wouldn't have risked a full circut race cause i couldnt afford to fix dents and didnt want to dent.

Aaron

But a circuit race is a lot safer then a road race, drags are well worth the money, unless you own a shitty japper and fuck it because the strip has a lot more grip...ahhh the turbo mirages blowing gear boxes

[Squiggles]

But a circuit race is a lot safer then a road race, drags are well worth the money, unless you own a shitty japper and fuck it because the strip has a lot more grip...ahhh the turbo mirages blowing gear boxes

Thats what makes this thread interesting... under the guise of "supporting" "boyracer" activities, He's actually talking about the same behaviour that labels riders "fuckwit bikers"

[ducatilover]

Thats what makes this thread interesting... under the guise of "supporting" "boyracer" activities, He's actually talking about the same behaviour that labels riders "fuckwit bikers"

You are right there