Is there really a problem.... They are easy to identify...... They pay a hell of a lot of tax so I don't have to (thanks guys)...... Ok driving around at night is a bit of a pain..... They mostly kill themselves, no problem here, applied eugenics..... It keeps them off bikes, which was somthing their fathers did....
Its just fashionable at the moment to be a boy racer, just as it was fashionable for my generation to have a motorbike.
There y'go. Something we all agree on. The enemy is not boy racers or fuckwit bikers. It's politicians.
Now, you wants to step forward to head up a cadre?
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
It's about the comparison of "motorcycle fuckwits" to the public image of "boy racers"!
Katman is asking, "what is the difference" and if any, how would the public know?
Katman is passionate about the image that motorcyclists portray to the general public and how the end result affects motorcyclists in general!
In other words, "We reap what we sow" and only "we", the motorcyclists, can control that by our public behaviour!
I admire Katman's persistence and resolve. (excellent qualities in any man)
I fear the task is so big, that to some, he (Katman) appears to be tilting at windmills and those who might hear him, may stop listening!
That would be a shame, because the general public and officiator's of all descriptions view us (motorcyclists) as an unnecessary evil nuisance!
Similar to the current public attitude to the "boy racer brigade". (Katman's question, what's the difference?)
Have any of you ever wondered why other motorists fail so often to see us?
It is because in their subconscious minds, we do not belong, so they mentally dismiss us from their reality and run us over!
Sorry officer, I simply did not see him, is, in their minds, a justifiable excuse and they expect to be supported in that, by the officer and the general public!
Katman believes we can change that attitude by our behaviour!
I agree with him, the question is, DO YOU?
If you do, Katman is asking you to do something about it!
Good luck Katman. :![]()
Well at least someone's been listening.
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Had a conversation with a trainee cop mate of a mate recently. What people need to understand is they are us, if you give us shit we will start a fight, if you give them shit they will know a rule to arrest you. It's that simple. By being polite you are actually giving them less job satisfaction than if you swore at them. Incidentally the guy openly admitted to provoking a reaction so he could arrest various people, not a traffic cop but still... Interesting.
'It's night time' seems to work just fine...
In my mind Rav 4's don't belong but you don't see me ramming them at intersections, maybe I need a better excuse than 'I didn't see 3 tons of badly designed metal'Originally Posted by oldrider
Those things feel safe because you can't see out.
The public image of boy racers/fuckwit motorbikers is mostly media (and now on close up, some boy racer that died) but personal experience is strong if it is there, followed by 'a mate said' followed by 'a guy in a pub said'. Unfortunately we are a bit of a bugbear to those who believe in columns of numbers on a page, and so I think the best way to fix peoples impression of us is to publicly crow when our crash statistics go down (which we should all work on, being grouped in with scooters and dirt bikes doesnt help street bikers cause though)... No but seriously don't do wheelies infront of old people, they get scared and write down your license plate.
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I was pulled over at 11am and hadn't drank a drop of alcohol in over a week. I just got a little annoyed really because he just shoved the tester in my face and said 'say your name and address' which would seem a little bit forward for something that amounts to a voluntary search.
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