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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper_CBR
    As does any misspelt word that should be correct for the reasons of upholding grammer correctness.
    Your write of coarse. Or grammar correctness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    Your write of coarse. Or grammar correctness...
    that'll learn you
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    I know I'll always burn to be
    Remind me of what left this outlaw torn
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    Quote Originally Posted by outlawtorn
    that'll learn you
    No it wont.
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    Your write of coarse. Or grammar correctness...
    Or grammatical correctness
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda
    People just do not care about anyone else these days. Society becomes more self centered and take the attitude "F" anyone else. With parents with this sort of shyte arttitude it is no wonder that the next generation are wiping themselves, and sadly others out. Sad bit is though for the next generation, they have really no hope and unless they rebel against these attitudes then they are screwed (and so are the rest of us!).
    I agree.I have been having a discussion along these lines elsewhere.
    Too many parents just don't care, and have a lax attitude to their children.
    It's just sad that those idiotic teenagers had to go and kill themselves.
    I guess one good thing that came out of this tragedy (?) was that they did not kill anyone else.
    As a teenager, I sped but I never went ANYWHERE near those kinds of speeds.
    I knew better, I knew I could not handle it.
    Unfortunately teenagers need to do it themselves to learn...in this case, it was too late :/
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    If you are going to play russian roulette on the road sooner or later a live one is going to come out of the barrel. Two things guys, if you cross the line know when it's time to stop, and if you don't want to get caught don't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilmsrocker
    Very interesting program in the United States Court sytem......for people who get arrested for drunk driving.......for kids who violate driving and speeding laws.....and I believe for people arrested on Domestic Violence too........is that as a part of their community service hours that they have to do they have to do an IMPACT AWARENESS class and put in so many hours towards their community service at the CITY MORGUE!........WOW!.....If that does not WAKE a PERSON the hell up..I dunno what will?.........And the Program works SWEET......As it was intended to.....Most who go through it..... DO NOT REPEAT THEIR OFFENCE.
    The morgue is a very sobering place and there is no better location to learn about the realities of human frailty.

    I saw a doco a while ago that looked at some troubled teens going through such a program in the US and it certainly did have a powerfull impact on their attitudes.

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    Hmmm...thinks...Mk1 Zephyr diced up around power pole..bodies strewn around the road, a bystander trying to stop bleeding by sticking a rag down a young guys throat..4 dead.....Ford V8 rolls on Lake road..young guys thrown out, 1 decapitated....Mk 4 Zephyr V8 gets airborne over the crest of Newton Rd/ K road and bursts asunder, spilling and killing its load........
    So...over the last 40 yrs....has anything basically changed!!!
    The cars are faster?...but also better built so you have to go a bit faster to achieve the same level of carnage.
    Young guys are still full of testosterone...7 ft tall and bulletproof. They all think they are ace drivers - until it turns to shit.
    There are more boy racers on the road than there used to be?...well, theres twice as many people and cars are cheaper.
    Society and authorities seem more apalled these days....more efficient instant mass communication?
    Young men are going to be young men....and are going to kill themselves from time to time..in acts of bravado which are actually sheer stupidity....but they seldom see it as that...until its all too late!
    A morgue session could well help introducing a bit of sense to some, but not necesarily all of the more reckless.
    So, after each incident, which is blazoned across the media, the thumpings of righteous anger and indignation are heard wide across the land.....for about a week - then its on to something else.
    Young guys have been killing themselves across the millenia, by whatever means happens to be popular and of the moment - the last century, its been mainly automobiles of one sort or another. Nothing we can do will stop it. People who kill themselves in car crashes, dont have kids to grow up and do the same. So I dont worry about it - when it happens to people I know, its a shock, but, hey, among life there is death! Always has been, always will.
    I also support doing away with fences around swimming pools, but, thats another rant.
    So, will anything stop these guys (mainly guys)
    Why...I think not.
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    isnt this just a touch hypocritical (sp) ??
    A lot of the guys here are riding bikes at speeds well in excess of 200
    The guy driving was speeding --he made a mistake -but a bunch of families are morning their dead kids right now.
    coulda been any one of us
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ/FROSTY
    isnt this just a touch hypocritical (sp) ??
    A lot of the guys here are riding bikes at speeds well in excess of 200
    The guy driving was speeding --he made a mistake -but a bunch of families are morning their dead kids right now.
    coulda been any one of us
    A lot of them are very good at avoiding that rather obvious point.
    Bikers that live in glass houses huh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    A lot of them are very good at avoiding that rather obvious point.
    Bikers that live in glass houses huh!!
    My place is 50 year old rimu and stucco.
    Oh and my bike'll only hit 155kph bouncing off the limiter in top

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    A lot of them are very good at avoiding that rather obvious point.
    Bikers that live in glass houses huh!!
    Hey i'm as guilty as the next guy. -Ohh hang on --no I NEVER speed and I always obey the road rules. Honest nodman
    for those that can't tell--this is a pisstake
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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy
    My place is 50 year old rimu and stucco.
    Oh and my bike'll only hit 155kph bouncing off the limiter in top
    In a built up area that speed will do the trick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ/FROSTY
    isnt this just a touch hypocritical (sp) ??
    A lot of the guys here are riding bikes at speeds well in excess of 200
    Yep but of course it would never happen to them, they would never make a mistake at 120+kmh and crash into an innocent driver...

    Quote Originally Posted by XJ/FROSTY
    The guy driving was speeding --he made a mistake -but a bunch of families are morning their dead kids right now.
    coulda been any one of us
    If it was a one off you could say that, but this guy drove like an idiot all the time and was just a fatality waiting to happen, its unfortunate his parents did nothing to stop him, didn't they even help him buy his car?

    At the end of the day everyone should be fking thankful that it wasn't them meeting this guy after he failed to take a corner. Its just a shame he took other people with him.

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    SPMan couldn't be more right, and Frosty. We're all bloody hypocrites - you don't buy a bike cos you like the wind in your hair sitting dead on 100km/h on the long straight stretches of road, and you religiously obey the suggested cornering speeds... oh come on!!

    As for limiting the cars/horsepower/power to weight bla bla bla... that will prevent some deaths from the point of view that when (and I do mean WHEN) the youngsters crash it may possibly be at a lower speed, but that will be a small percentage. From my experience, the three decent accidents I've had outside of legitimate racing all involved slow underpowered cars. Once I stuck my MX-5 (1.6litre, 88kw, governor at 180k) into a tree at about 30km/h while practising drifting... another time I stuck the MX-5 off the side of a tight twisty road and rolled it a few times - speed approx 80km/h, speed limit 100km/h, suggested cornering speed 15km/h... and some years before I rolled Mum's Civic (1.5l, 66kw, 178km/h indicated top speed) up on it's side after spinning into a bank - speed approx 110km/h in a 70 zone, wet road, brain fade (just like the other three).

    I don't see how horsepower had anything to do with these experiences, yet excessive speed was involved in two, and complete farking brain fade was the precursor to all three.
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