There's no hope

**Krusti** · 29th March 2005, 22:55

OK then.....when say my son goes on a KB ride and sticks to the tail of some one travelling at a rather quick pace, crashes and kills himself and possibly some one else, will it be my fault as a parent for allowing him to go. His for being young and stupid or the guys he was following?

Don't worry I have this battle going on in my mind every time we ride together. Shall we now and then do a quick run on a stretch of road which I feel is relatively safe so he has an outlet under my control, leave him to discover his limits on his own or when with his mates or be a fist welding over protective parent.

I have never been and will never be a Nana rider....it's in my genes. My son has both his mothers and my genes. He WILL want to go fast at times.

I have come to the conclusion that it is a bit like teenagers drinking. I can ban it....will probably happen anyway when I'm not looking.

I can drink like a fish making a fool of myself and set a bad example.

Or allow them to have the odd drink when I am around and speak openly about consequences etc.

It is not till you are in this position as a parent that you realise there are no black and white rules. What to do?

I constantly live in fear of the day something happens and I know no matter what that I in some way will be to blame. The joys of parenting.

I'm not preaching to any one here at all. I'm just sitting here in front of a key board typing out load.

**FROSTY:Me** · 29th March 2005, 23:16

Krusty --I kinda know what ya mean. baby bikie had a decent crash on his quad recently.--Hes got tyre marks on his side as it rode over him.
The protective parent in me wanted to take the bike offa him.

**Krusti** · 29th March 2005, 23:23

I have spent many a night sleeping on the floor next to juniors bed at Waikato Hosp during the Motorcross years thinking " when shall I say enough is enough?"

Luckily for his health and my wallet he made the call himself.

Wait till you see bb banked over scraping his pegs on the road. Then ya heart starts missing the odd beat!

**gav** · 29th March 2005, 23:26

Krusti, track day

Apparently this kid was on The Rock radio station, about a month ago. One of his mates suggested they ring him up and have him on about his driving while disqualified etc. Pretty sad but hey, shit happens.......

**Krusti** · 29th March 2005, 23:34

I don't totally agree with the shirt but certainly made me smile.

Track Day......We are both too worried about scratching our babies

Hope to soon tho

**justsomeguy** · 29th March 2005, 23:43

Agree with the fact that we are all hypocrites ...... there have been several rides where $2.00 was exceeded. Not by me ofcourse. Cos 1. I can't really ride and 2. My bike's fecking slow....

..but it's a lot of fun passing a trailer towing ute doing 70ks at close to 3 times that speed (with perfect weather, visibility and roads)

And since a lot of us can't save up to go on a track that's the route we choose.

Until..........

**Lou Girardin** · 30th March 2005, 08:30

I have and always will speed and do silly things, but I'm damn sure that 2 things have saved my butt many times; one is that I made my mistakes in cars that would be considered mobility scooters these days. Low speeds = small hits.
the second is that, whatever their other faults, the MOT had brilliant rider/driver training which still comes to the fore in risky situations.
It would be interesting to know how many ex-MOT guys have died in crashes, I suspect not many.

**Krusti** · 30th March 2005, 09:54

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

the second is that, whatever their other faults, the MOT had brilliant rider/driver training which still comes to the fore in risky situations.
It would be interesting to know how many ex-MOT guys have died in crashes, I suspect not many.

Very true

**vifferman** · 30th March 2005, 10:07

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

It would be interesting to know how many ex-MOT guys have died in crashes, I suspect not many.

There must be at least some.

I used to be an ex-MOT guy, before I died in a crash.

**Motu** · 30th March 2005, 11:00

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

It would be interesting to know how many ex-MOT guys have died in crashes, I suspect not many.

An ex MOT Policeman in a community where I lived dissapeared off the face of the earth,he didn't die in a car crash,but if he ended up where he should off,he might of wished he did die...

**vifferman** · 30th March 2005, 11:02

Originally Posted by Motu

An ex MOT Policeman in a community where I lived dissapeared off the face of the earth,he didn't die in a car crash,but if he ended up where he should off,he might of wished he did die...

That must've been me, because I often wish I did die.

Oh wait... I already did, didn't I?

So hard sometimes to keep track of whether I'm dead or alive....

**scumdog** · 30th March 2005, 11:20

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I have and always will speed and do silly things, but I'm damn sure that 2 things have saved my butt many times; one is that I made my mistakes in cars that would be considered mobility scooters these days. Low speeds = small hits.
the second is that, whatever their other faults, the MOT had brilliant rider/driver training which still comes to the fore in risky situations.
It would be interesting to know how many ex-MOT guys have died in crashes, I suspect not many.

Lous right on this one, after the merger 'somebody' noticed the number of police cars involved in crashes had increased and thought it could be the new ex-MOT guys but was red faced to discover they had virtualy nil input into the wrecking of police cars -ergo it must just be the existing police. DOH!

**Ixion** · 30th March 2005, 12:09

Originally Posted by vifferman

So hard sometimes to keep track of whether I'm dead or alive....

I find it helps to make up a couple of cards, one saying "Dead" the other "Alive" and hang the appropriate one on the wall . Change as necessary. Then all you need to do to find out is glance at the wall.

Only problem is that it doesn't work when you've got a hangover. 'Cos then you're alive but feel like you should be dead.

**vifferman** · 30th March 2005, 12:18

Originally Posted by Ixion

I find it helps to make up a couple of cards, one saying "Dead" the other "Alive" and hang the appropriate one on the wall . Change as necessary. Then all you need to do to find out is glance at the wall.

Only problem is that it doesn't work when you've got a hangover. 'Cos then you're alive but feel like you should be dead.

Thanx for that, Mr Ixion, Sir.

No problemo about hangovers, because being a corpse, if I drink, the alcohomohol runs out the holes.