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    Scratch test being scratched

    I work for the AA and we recently got a drop from NZTA that the iconic scratch tests are now being computerised so that sometime next year all tests will be done at a terminal.

    I'll get dates when I'm in next. IS NOTHING SACRED ANYMORE?!

    Progress, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekk View Post
    [...] sometime next year all tests will be done at a terminal. [....] Progress, right?
    Well, instead of a $1 sheet of paper they will have a multi-million dollar computing infrastructure and the fee will double to pay for it, so now you pay $4000 instead of $2000 to get all your licenses - better bang for the buck than training.

    Instead of a non-technical person to operate the examination, they will need four computer technicians top keep the network up.

    Currently they are processing 20 candidates per day, and this will triple to 20 candidates per day, thus paying for the extra equipment and training required.

    Yes, progress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Well, instead of a $1 sheet of paper they will have a multi-million dollar computing infrastructure and the fee will double to pay for it, so now you pay $4000 instead of $2000 to get all your licenses - better bang for the buck than training.

    Instead of a non-technical person to operate the examination, they will need four computer technicians top keep the network up.

    Currently they are processing 20 candidates per day, and this will triple to 20 candidates per day, thus paying for the extra equipment and training required.

    Yes, progress!

    Steve
    Well yes, I can see what you mean. But there will be some adminsitrative benefits of such a system.

    Like you day, it wont be cheap to set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    there will be some adminsitrative benefits of such a system.
    Yep, they will be able to handle many more applicants per hour. The scratchie cubicles are always fully occupied here (no sarcasm smiley?) and they will otherwise have to expand into the loo's - you can see that not lasting can't you? It won't be long before they are sitting on knees in the loo's doing scratchies.

    The administrators need all the help they can get too - god knows they are overstretched at the moment.

    KB admins, for FUCKS SAKE WHERE IS THE FUCKING SARCASM SMILEY??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Yep, they will be able to handle many more applicants per hour. The scratchie cubicles are always fully occupied here (no sarcasm smiley?) and they will otherwise have to expand into the loo's - you can see that not lasting can't you? It won't be long before they are sitting on knees in the loo's doing scratchies.

    The administrators need all the help they can get too - god knows they are overstretched at the moment.

    KB admins, for FUCKS SAKE WHERE IS THE FUCKING SARCASM SMILEY??

    Steve
    To be fair a lot of the AA Centres up here are really busy but I would be interested in knowing the percentage of those people who were doing the scratch tests.

    SFA, methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Well, instead of a $1 sheet of paper they will have a multi-million dollar computing infrastructure and the fee will double to pay for it, so now you pay $4000 instead of $2000 to get all your licenses - better bang for the buck than training.

    Instead of a non-technical person to operate the examination, they will need four computer technicians top keep the network up.

    Currently they are processing 20 candidates per day, and this will triple to 20 candidates per day, thus paying for the extra equipment and training required.

    Yes, progress!

    Steve
    It won't be multi-million dollar - there is now RCS which would make the project very very cheap. Especially if you look at total cost of ownership.

    All they need to do is have a thinclient/monitor/mouse/keyboard and internet connection, no servers or anything that's all done from headoffice and managed as an image from there.

    Think i'll be making afew calls on monday

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    This is actually an excellent improvement, because of a side benefit not mentioned. The computerised tests will be available in multi languages and the questions will be totally randomised (instead of the present half dozen or so combinations).

    This means that (a) "interpreters" will no longer be allowed to accompany candidate swhen they take the test and (b) rote memorising the answers (a, c, b ,b a. d etc ) will no longer work.

    On noes! Candidates may actually have to UNDERSTAND the road code and rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    This is actually an excellent improvement, because of a side benefit not mentioned. The computerised tests will be available in multi languages and the questions will be totally randomised (instead of the present half dozen or so combinations).

    This means that (a) "interpreters" will no longer be allowed to accompany candidate swhen they take the test and (b) rote memorising the answers (a, c, b ,b a. d etc ) will no longer work.

    On noes! Candidates may actually have to UNDERSTAND the road code and rules
    Outrageous!

    I was quite shocked to discover the scratch tests weren't available in other languages to be honest. Most of the people I mentioned it to came back with zenophobic "they should speak English if they're in an English-speaking nation" responses.

    I would personally prefer someone who didn't speak English and knew the road rules than vice versa.

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    I would hope they could read English like Give Way, Stop, No Entry...
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    or "stay in your own fucking lane"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekk View Post
    Outrageous!

    I was quite shocked to discover the scratch tests weren't available in other languages to be honest. Most of the people I mentioned it to came back with zenophobic "they should speak English if they're in an English-speaking nation" responses.

    I would personally prefer someone who didn't speak English and knew the road rules than vice versa.
    Well, considering that one of the requirements for residency is an acceptable level of english speaking it shouldn't really be that much of a problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevnz View Post
    I would hope they could read English like Give Way, Stop, No Entry...
    Well, yes, those are basic words... and they all carry international symbols.

    BUT: Fresh import driver would be totally better off if he could actually pick up a Road Code in his/her native tongue and understand it in his mind.

    Sentence structure of English is quite a bit different to many other languages... and very easy to get "lost in translation".

    As for the test going computer based... Well DB has obviously been around when a new system has been installed in his work place......
    However, I reckon it is quite a good idea.
    As Ixion said, the applicant might actually have to study!

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    Makes no difference, The testing procedure is a joke.

    if you hired someone, gave them a 20 grand piece of machinery to operate that was likely to kill and maim when used in the wrong manner, would you give them a scratch test and leave them to it?

    ah cool, You got a,d,c,a,d,c,c,, pretty damn good you gibberish speaking twat, Your qualified, heres the keys.

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    It's still no replacement for basic driver training.....


    And non-english speakers with an understanding of the road code is all good - until they're making your 111 call....

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmonkey View Post
    Well, considering that one of the requirements for residency is an acceptable level of english speaking it shouldn't really be that much of a problem...
    Key word: "shouldn't".

    Immigration NZ is a whole new can of worms...

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