Instilling a sense of conscience.

[boomer]

I'm smelling bullshit here.
There was a car in front of you which you had indicated to overtake, yet the gixxer was in your lane. Were you executing the overtake from the left hand side of the lane? Did he miss the car in front of you?

I think what really happened was you wee'd youself as a result of your own ineptitude and wanted someone else to blame.

The onus is on YOU to ensure it is safe to pull out to pass. Mirrors ARE NOT going to cut it, head check or die.
This is exactly the sort of shit Katman is referring to, you have no right to take another person's life. To do so you need to learn to accept responsibility.

Should he have done it? I wouldn't have and can't say I support him, but that's no excuse for you fucking up.

he obviously didn't look properly to see teh other bike.. a typical cagers response would have followed.. 'i didn't see him'.. which equates to.. i didn't fookin look !


As for Katman, the police ads tell us 111 is dangerous speeds.. are you trying to tell us you condone 111 but not 200....

Why are your laws different to those of the police..??!


laughable.

[shrub]

I'm smelling bullshit here.

No, you're writing bullshit here. I was in the right hand side of my lane with my indicator on. He rode THROUGH the group behind me and passed me just as I started to pull out with around half a metre between us. He was less than a metre from the car and on the left hand side of the opposing lane as he passed him.

As for counting headlights - that is patently ridiculous. A group of experienced and competent riders ride in a staggered formation, and if you think about it it is just about impossible to see every light because they are BEHIND each other (and some of them were still going round the corner). If they were ranged across beside each other (impossible on a 2 lane highway) then it would be possible to see all the lights, but only if you were quite a long way ahead. Add to that the fact that there were several Street/Speed Triples with twin headlights, and the task becomes even more ludicrous.

And try counting to 12 in under 1 second (which is really all the time you want to be looking away from the road) - it's physically impossible, even if you did learn to count with Sesame St.

It seems that you desperately want the idiot on the gixxer to be right which leads me to believe that you're either the man concerned or that's how you ride - am I right?

[MarkH]

As for Katman, the police ads tell us 111 is dangerous speeds.. are you trying to tell us you condone 111 but not 200....

Why are your laws different to those of the police..??!

Wait, is this thread about breaking the law? I never got the impression that Katman was talking about 'exceeding the speed limit', I thought it was more about 'riding like an absolute twat, risking the lives of others'. Feel free to point out anything said by Katman that shows I'm mistaken.

[boomer]

Wait, is this thread about breaking the law? I never got the impression that Katman was talking about 'exceeding the speed limit', I thought it was more about 'riding like an absolute twat, risking the lives of others'. Feel free to point out anything said by Katman that shows I'm mistaken.

What ever you says doesnt fookin count.. you ride a fookin scootah ffs... ( at least i think its a scootah )

now be quiet

[shrub]

he obviously didn't look properly to see teh other bike.. a typical cagers response would have followed.. 'i didn't see him'.. which equates to.. i didn't fookin look !

laughable.

So what would you have done? Flagged the car down, got the bikes to stop, done a head count and then carefully passed the stationary car? Ideally wearing a high vis vest and with Police supervision. Or could it be possible that I was doing the right thing and he was riding dangerously?

[shrub]

What ever you says doesnt fookin count.. you ride a fookin scootah ffs... ( at least i think its a scootah )

now be quiet

Nice work. I love it when people prove that they're tards. Good on ya.

He may ride a scooter, but he made an intelligent and appropriate comment, which is more than you have done.

[MSTRS:Me]

Or could it be possible that I was doing the right thing and he was riding dangerously?

He was a prat for not leaving plenty of room (going wider) BUT the onus is still on you to check properly before pulling out. Forget 'counting headlights'...one of them was getting bigger. Quickly.

[boomer]

So what would you have done? Flagged the car down, got the bikes to stop, done a head count and then carefully passed the stationary car? Ideally wearing a high vis vest and with Police supervision. Or could it be possible that I was doing the right thing and he was riding dangerously?

I make sure the coast is clear... objects don't just 'appear' from no where..!
If i pull out and i get hit, in the eyes of the law.. i'm guilty!

Now Mr gixxer was probably speeding; in fairness he was probably sat behind some grandma who hesitantly kept looking to over take but didnt and decided fook this ...

you by the sounds of it, got the wind put up ya and have even less confidence on the road than you did before...

its too easy to blame others...

[The Stranger:Me]

No, you're writing bullshit here. I was in the right hand side of my lane with my indicator on. He rode THROUGH the group behind me and passed me just as I started to pull out with around half a metre between us. He was less than a metre from the car and on the left hand side of the opposing lane as he passed him.

As for counting headlights - that is patently ridiculous. A group of experienced and competent riders ride in a staggered formation, and if you think about it it is just about impossible to see every light because they are BEHIND each other (and some of them were still going round the corner). If they were ranged across beside each other (impossible on a 2 lane highway) then it would be possible to see all the lights, but only if you were quite a long way ahead. Add to that the fact that there were several Street/Speed Triples with twin headlights, and the task becomes even more ludicrous.

And try counting to 12 in under 1 second (which is really all the time you want to be looking away from the road) - it's physically impossible, even if you did learn to count with Sesame St.

It seems that you desperately want the idiot on the gixxer to be right which leads me to believe that you're either the man concerned or that's how you ride - am I right?

What the fuck does counting headlights have to do with anything. Read the road code. Nowhere does it say anything about counting headlights. Where you trying to put yourself to sleep. If so count sheep (but that'll probably only make you horny anyway), but don't do it whilst riding.

Poor cunt on the gixxer. Cruising along, minding his own business and some numb nuts on trumpet indicates and pulls out on him at the last minute. You should have chased him down to apologise.

Honestly - you are in the WRONG. The sad part about it is that those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. I just hope like fuck if you do, you don't kill anyone.

Interestingly, katman also knows the laws here, wants to instil a sense of conscience, yet is silent. I guess conscience doesn't extend beyond speed.

[boomer]

Nice work. I love it when people prove that they're tards. Good on ya.

He may ride a scooter, but he made an intelligent and appropriate comment, which is more than you have done.

you live in christchurch.. you dont have any say either..

sit in the stoopid corner with ya mate.

[boomer]

Read the road code. Nowhere does it say anything about counting headlights.

i larfed... Some people don't have the common sense they were fookin born with.


My line in the sand is here... |

The coppers line in teh sand is here.......... |

Katmans line in the sand is here........ |


We're all dickheads because our lines don't align.... Well Done katman.

[shrub]

What the fuck does counting headlights have to do with anything. Read the road code. Nowhere does it say anything about counting headlights.

I suggest YOU read the road code - nowhere does it say overtake at way past the speed limit, and YOU said "Mirrors ARE NOT going to cut it, head check or die.". How was I supposed to head check - turn around and identify the colours of the helmets?

[Mikkel]

The onus is on YOU to ensure it is safe to pull out to pass. Mirrors ARE NOT going to cut it, head check or die.
This is exactly the sort of shit Katman is referring to, you have no right to take another person's life. You need to learn to accept responsibility

Honestly - you are in the WRONG. The sad part about it is that those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. I just hope like fuck if you do, you don't kill anyone.

You're not doing yourself any favours at all right now mate.

It's true that you have the responsibility to make sure that a pass is safe - but the same applies to everybody else on the road too.

If the other lane is free and you indicate and pull out to pass - anyone coming from behind who indicates (or decides not indicate as may be the case) and pulls out after you has to give way to you. You have to maintain a safe following distance - even when overtaking. And you are only allowed to overtake when the lane is clear and after having indicated for 3 seconds prior to initiating your lane change. And yes, I don't follow that bit to the letter myself - but if you are going to throw terms like "wrong" around then you need to take all the rules, as written, into consideration.

We can keep on arguing all day about whether shrub was appropriately aware of his surroundings. But if what he has said on here is true then he is most definitely no more wrong than the guy on the gixxer.

[boomer]

How was I supposed to head check - identify the colours of the helmets?

THIS IS FKIN GOLD...!!!!

head check means you look over YOUR shoulder.....

in all seriousness bro, i'd go buy a car and save your own life...maybe a few others too.

[shrub]

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head check means you look over YOUR shoulder.....

in all seriousness bro, i'd go buy a car and save your own life...maybe a few others too.

I love Kiwibiker, never seen so many retards in one place - I wish I'd found it earlier. One day you should ride a bike and try turning your head and looking over your shoulder and see how many bikes you can count before you fall off.

Give up before you make an even bigger dick of yourself - if it is not viable to use your mirrors to check that there are no more bikes behind you than when you started it won't be any better to look over your shoulder.